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Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by 19naia(m): 6:44pm On Sep 01, 2012 |
THE NEGRITOS WERE FOUND IN THE PHILIPPINES ISLANDS OF ASIA BY THE EARLY COLONIALIST..BEFORE THE SPANISH COLONISED THE ISLANDS,MUSLIMS FROM MALAYSIA AND INDIA HAD BEEN THERE AND MUST HAVE ENCOUNTERED THEM...THE HISTORY OF OF COLONIALIST IN PHILIPPPINES GOES BACK TO THE DAYS OF THE RISE OF ISLAM IN INDIA AND MALAYASIA WITH SULTANS MAKING HOME THERE....THE HISTORY OF THE NEGRITOS GOES BACK TO 0VER 3000 YEARS BY WAY OF ARTEFACTS...tHE ONLY AVAILABLE PHOTOS ARE FROM LATER DAYS WHEN MOST OF THE NEGRO LOOKING ISLANDERS HAD BEEN INTERBRED AS HALFCAST WITH ASIAN PEOPLE ,WHO HAD ALSO MIXED WITH INDIA/MALAYSIAN PEOPLE AND LATER WITH SPANISH BLOOD....PHILIPPINES LANGUAGE IS VERY DIVERSE WITH WORDS FROM ISLAMIC COLONIALIST/INDIA/MALAYSIA AND WORDS FROM SPANISH COLONIALIST AND ENGLISH FROM AMERICAN COLONIALS DURING THE TIME OF WORLD WAR 1......i KNOW A NIGERIAN MAN IN PHILIPPINES WITH A BABY FROM AN ASIAN GIRL AND HIS DAUGHTER IS A HALF CAST THAT LOOKS NO DIFFERENT FROM THE NATIVE NEGRITOS OF PHILIPPINES..tHE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE NEGRITOS WERE VERY SMALL/SHORT PEOPLE UNTIL AFTER GENERATIONS OF MIXING GENES WITH OTHER RACES..TODAY STILL SOME SMALL CURLY HAIRED BABIES ARE BORN TO PHILIPPINE FAMILIES AS A REOCCURANCE OF THE OBSCURE NEGRITO TRAITS........................................[url][/url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf0A7YqFPPs THERE IS A MAJOR ISLAND IN PHILIPPINES WHERE I LIVED FROM FEBRUARY 2010 TO NOVEMBER 2011,THE NAME OF THE ISLAND IS NEGROS ISLAND..IT WAS NAMED SO BY THE SPANISH COLONIST BECAUSE IT WAS THE LAST ISLAND IN PHILIPPINES TO HAVE NATIVE ACTIVE SETTLEMENTS OF "THE LITTLE BLACK PEOPLE" THE CHINESE TRAIT IS VERY COMMON IN PHILIPPINES AND SHOWS IN EVERY NATIVE GROUP OF THE PHILIPPINES,INCLUDING THE NEGRITOS...I NEVER SAW A TRUE NEGRITO THERE,THEY WERE ALL HALFCAST OF HISTORICAL NEGRITOS WHO HAVE ALL MIXED WITH THE OTHER RACES NOW.... |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by TerryCarr(m): 7:05am On Sep 02, 2012 |
OMFG |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by TerryCarr(m): 7:36am On Sep 02, 2012 |
Being among the least-known (by outsiders) of all living human groups, the origins of the Negrito people is a much debated topic. The Malay term for them is orang asli, or original people. |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by Nobody: 8:42am On Sep 02, 2012 |
A study on blood groups and proteins in the 1950s suggested that the Andamanese were more closely related to Oceanic peoples than Africans. Genetic studies on Philippine Negritos, based on polymorphic blood enzymes and antigens, showed they were similar to surrounding Asian populations.[6] Genetic testing places all the Onge and all but two of the Great Andamanese in the mtDNA Haplogroup M, found in East Africa, East Asia, and South Asia, suggesting that the Negritos are at least partly descended from a migration originating in eastern Africa as much as 60,000 years ago. This migration is hypothesized to have followed a coastal route through India and into Southeast Asia, which is sometimes referred to as the Great Coastal Migration. People need to use common sense. In years to come this will be the fate of African Americans who are between 20-30 percent European generally speaking but have still retained their African features. Eventually that percentage will rise (if not "tainted" by other races) and they still may have their "black" outer appearance. However, even if black people in America look like Chris Rock who is 20 percent white, and may have more relationship with Europeans, it wouldn't mean they have "nothing to do with Africa". It's nonsensical to think otherwise. These people have been outside of Africa for 60,000 years for Christ sakes of course they will be more related to Asians! . Chris Rock 20 percent Caucasian. Caribbean children from Belize...closely related to the Mexican population http://www.travelimg.org/belizean-children-belize.html give these people 60,000 years and see the results. Future generations will argue they have nothing to do with Africa despite being descendants of slaves JUST BECAUSE they may have more Aztec or Mayan blood in them. smh. |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by 19naia(m): 6:35pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
The good thing is that the info is open to speculation and new research findings...I like the idea that Negritos having been in asia for so long as a unique isolated group would show more collected genetic links to asians and others...I also think that its still quite a good hypothesis to link them to Africa even if the only african genes that have been found in them are for dark skin and coarse hair...The research to test the genes and bones of the negritos come only after more recent modern researchers found the remaining negritos to have all been genetically mingled with chinese and no telling what other genes mingled during the time of islamic migration to south east asia and the trade and sailing routes throughout the south west pacific that has evidence of going on for 3500 years (sailing from south west pacific to hawaii).There is some evidence in ancient chinese scrolls of china commanding fleets more than 5000 years ago to explore and mingle with austronesian people and who knows who else..I like the fact that chinese genes are found in some africans along the indian ocean coast with artefacts of ancient china ware....I would not be surprised if the chinese brought some africans back and left them on any of the scattering of thousands of islands in south west pacific,or a very old migration from africa happened to asia....I stand by the fact that 98% of chimpazee genes are human traits,which leaves maybe 99.9% similarity between all the various forms of humanbeings,AND YET WE STILL TRY TO OUTLINE A DISCONNECTION BETWEEN VARIOUS RACES -BASED ON A LESS THAN 0.1% DIFFERENCE IN GENES....WE DONT KNOW THE EXPRESSION PLACE AND FUNCTION OF SO MANY OF THE FACETS OF THE HUMAN GENETIC SCRIPT,AND CERTAINLY WE DONT KNOW ENOUGH TO BE CONCLUSIVE OF RACIAL DISSCONNECTION WITH THE VERY LITTLE BIT OF GENETIC EXPRESSION/FUNCTION MAP THAT THE BEST GENETICIST HAVE DECIPHERED......nICE INFO EVERY ONE AND TRUELY ANY OF YOU GUYS iDEA IS JUST AS APPRECIATED AS THE NEXT BECAUSE ITS OPEN TO SPECULATION AND FURTHER RESEARCH FINDINGS...THE END RESULT OF A GENE IS A PHYSICAL EXPRESSION ,AND SO I MUST TAKE THE FACE VALUE EXPRESSION OF A PEOPLES WITH THE SAME MERIT AS THE GENES THAT GUIDE THEM...MAYBE IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT,THEN THE GENES ARE THERE WAITING TO BE FOUND ... |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by 19naia(m): 6:40pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by 19naia(m): 6:41pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
[quote author=TerryCarr][/quote]THANKS MAN.YOUR INFO POST GAVE ME SOME TIPS ABOUT THIS TOPIC THAT I DID NOT HAVE BEFORE. |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by PAGAN9JA(m): 6:43pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
Negritos are not half-caste. they are full-blooded Ati Tribespople. |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by ezeagu(m): 8:50pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
PAGAN 9JA: This is the problem with your non-mixed universal tribal law argument. It doesn't hold true when most peoples on earth (tribal included) were made through waves of migration. |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:54pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
ezeagu: what has migration got to do with mixing. also one cannot be 100% sure they are migrants. the migration theory is in all, just a theory based on similar racial characteristics. but a coincidence must not be deemed out. |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by 19naia(m): 7:05pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
But it is true that in philippines,the only remaining traces of "Negritos" are mixed or halfcaste of the original natives and the many others who moved into philippines islands over the past 800 years,from india,malaysia,china and more recently,spain..There are lots of europeans and americans in philippines marrying and having children with philippine nationals even today as we speak..There are many other indian ocean and south pacific oacean islands with Negroid tribes,such as solomon island(pacific area) and around indonesia islands,it may be a different story for the ones near malaysia and indonesia as they may show more mix with austronesian as opposed to the chinese mix that is common in the historical Negritos of philippines..Papua.New.Guinea.is.another.intersting.place.of.tribes.who.are.very.similar.to.africans.by.surface.traits....Those.Papua.tribes.show.no.obvious.chinese.traits.but.do.bear.some.similarity.to.the australian.aborigines.other than.the.papua.tribes.have.very.coarse.hair.more.like.africans......even.the.austronesians.are.only.showing.50000.years.evidence.in.the.area.and as such it goes to show that the various forms dispersions of Negritos are between australia and china with a 50,000yr old or more history of migration link to africa |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by tpia5: 4:36am On Sep 04, 2012 |
most of the negritos look mixed, true. it could be because they actually are mixed, or else because they actually are asian, not black per se. 1 Like |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:26pm On Sep 04, 2012 |
19naia: But it is true that in philippines,the only remaining traces of "Negritos" are mixed or halfcaste of the original natives and the many others who moved into philippines islands over the past 800 years,from india,malaysia,china and more recently,spain..There are lots of europeans and americans in philippines marrying and having children with philippine nationals even today as we speak you are confusing. let me explain. modern-day phillipinos are divided into various Ethnic Groups/tribes such as the Visayan (largest group), Tagalog (largest expatriate group), Cebuano, Ilocano, Pangasinense, Kapampangan, , Bicolano,Waray, etc., in the NOrth and the Moros (Bajau, Banguingui, Illanun, Kalagan, Kalibugan, Maguindanao, Maranao, Tausug, Samal, Sama, Sangir, Yakan, etc., in the South. Indigenous Negritos are the Ati & Aeta. most of the Southern groups are part-mulsim/part-Pagan/Animist due to migration from the Malay archipelago. The Visayan of the North, are christian, and purchased lands from the indigenous Ati/Aeta peoples. thas all. the mixed people you talk about are termed as Filipino Mestizo. they are half-bred phillipinos who mixed with europeans, etc during Spanish rule. they makea very small % of the population, contrary to popular beliefs. the small-scale mixing with Chinese and Japanes and Indians are recent and negligible. it is like Nigerian marrying forreigners. |
Re: Negritos(small NEGROS) Found As Natives In Asia by 19naia(m): 6:38pm On Sep 05, 2012 |
the list of groups you listed sound very familiar to me..I lived in south visaya among the visaya speakers and saw some "negrito" mix there..I then went to north Visaya to live,where they were all "Ilongo"(as is the local pronouciation).among the ilongo,i saw some "Negrito mix",one was my neighbour for 7 months...I also saw many of the "bajao"people both north and south visaya as they wander in boats from island to island and they are traced from the Malay area archipelagos..The badjao are very dark skinned people but not quite black looking either..The chinese mix in philippines is the most obvious of any and should not be listed among "negligable"..However i do agree that the so called "Negritos" do come from a common ancient ancestoral tribe that is now distributed all across the south pacific,philippines and the full extent around malaysia and to indonesia.and that ancestoral tribe predates the indian,malay,and chinese artefacts......Post some in depth info about the "ATI" so we can see what you are talking about..So far you have shared more knowledge of philippines and so on and just a few short statements of "They are the ATI people"..Find us plenty details about the "ATI" so we can understand what you want to convince us... PAGAN 9JA: |
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