Jenwitemi: This is no prophecy, bro. It is just the logical flow of things. One day age old bullshyte will die and give rise to new ones. The bible BS has been found out and it is about to die and be replaced.

Na wa oh bros, take am easy on d Bible; it's divinely inspired Book~

Bélla3: I didnt knw people were this crazy!

Sister do you mean prophet obadiah ?

Reyginus: Sister do you mean prophet obadiah ?

i believe she is refering to the scoffers like Martian and Jenwitemi. you gotta be crazy to not believe in the lord. thats what she is talking about

frank3.16:
Na waoo, religion... I am beginin to get sick of it all.

Infact, God, I didn't ask u to create me, we had no agreement b4 I was created. Did I wrong u in another world. All I know is that I jst saw mysel here in this very harsh world, now I am told that I must live a particularly way if not I will b thrown into burning hell, it makes no sense. Pls take me whereever I was in peace b4 I was created, u can have ur heaven, bt pls don't send me to hell. Abegooo, make una c meoooo, I didn't ask to b createdoooo ha. I have tried to repent bt its nt jst workin, nothin makes sense, and I am told I will b punisjd for not uinderstanding.

Exactly my thought , You should only get punished for breaching an agreement which you consciouly agreed to abide by.

Which agreement did we enter into with God when coming to the world to warant Eternal Hell.

Am sure many earthlings would have turned down the offer if we were consulted before our forced entry into this crazy world.

obadiah777: i believe she is refering to the scoffers like Martian and Jenwitemi. you gotta be crazy to not believe in the lord. thats what she is talking about

*faints*

Bélla3: *faints*

What a thread. Bad boys here. Lol

Well, m not too G̶̲̥̅̊ΘΘD̸̸̮̮̃ in quoting d bible, buh dier is a part d@ says" becos dey refuse to have d tot of God in dier heart, God left dem to reprobate mind" io tink dis will work for both d person asking d question n d guy saying jesus died for 144,000! LeMme guess! U are a jehovah witness!

sogoisrael: Well, m not too G̶̲̥̅̊ΘΘD̸̸̮̮̃ in quoting d bible, buh dier is a part d@ says" becos dey refuse to have d tot of God in dier heart, God left dem to reprobate mind" io tink dis will work for both d person asking d question n d guy saying jesus died for 144,000! LeMme guess! U are a jehovah witness!

ROMANS 1 VS 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT TO THE TOPIC AND DOES NOT APPLY TO ME. I EAT AND BREATHE GOD IN MY KNOWLEDGE. TRY ANOTHER VERSE CUZ THIS ONE AINT KNOCK ME OUT YET

HE DIED FOR HIS FATHER' SINS OF COURSE.
What an insult to mankind. . .and womanhood!
For rituals. . . a CHRISTIAN God that LOVES BLOOD. . .like IT'S followers.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.

Xtainity is so fabricated! Bible is so edited,adultratd by d romans! I was tod jesus died 4 our sins,he resurected afta 3 days nd he wil stil combak b4 rapture,if so, did he die at all?Sent 2 unify d jews nd d gentiles, nd he was stil sent 2 d whole word?

THIS IS FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD APART FROM THE SEALED 144,000
PHILIPIANS 2 VS 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. YOU GOTTA WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION. CHRIST DID NOT DIE FOR YOU.

caseless: Xtainity is so fabricated! Bible is so edited,adultratd by d romans! I was tod jesus died 4 our sins,he resurected afta 3 days nd he wil stil combak b4 rapture,if so, did he die at all?Sent 2 unify d jews nd d gentiles, nd he was stil sent 2 d whole word?

HE WAS NOT SENT TO THE WHOLE WORLD. MATTHEW 15 VS 24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.

From the replies i have gotten, i can see that even the Christians are confused.

Wat an insult 2 jesus! LOTT ppl wer punishd 4 same sex stuff,so who did lott die 4? U mean jesus died 4 hitler,muslini,bush,blair,osama,idiamin nd nigerian leaders? U must b jokin! All man 4 himsef. If u 4kup(sin),GOD go clear ur doubt. Repent!

caseless: Wat an insult 2 jesus! LOTT ppl wer punishd 4 same sex stuff,so who did lott die 4? U mean jesus died 4 hitler,muslini,bush,blair,osama,idiamin nd nigerian leaders? U must b jokin! All man 4 himsef. If u 4kup(sin),GOD go clear ur doubt. Repent!

NICE WAY OF PUTTING IT. THUMBS UP FROM ME

Once confused. . .ALWAYS confused.
I have had peace in my soul since I cut off the nuisance of a religion and IT'S dense followers out of my life.
Good grief!

A stoopid woman aka ashawo 'Galilee ati Bethlehemoo-moo)colludes with a scandalous farm-hand aka JOSEPH THE DREAMBOY' to produce a bastar-d with a 'heavenly' DNA. . .He sacrifices the 'moo-moo' like Gaddafi on earth. . .and some CANNIBALISTIC ding-bats shout 'praise ye who is lord'. . .HE DIED FOR THE SINS WE COMMITTED AS ORDAINED BY HIS FATHER. . .mother missing in action(remains a virgin after giving birth). . .

Give me 'SHARIA' any day!
At least. . .there is no shame in molesting 2 year-olds!

Add insult to injury. . .the followers are WORSE off than the first 'sacrifice'. . . phocking any orifice that would give pleasure including those of animals! Waiting to come again aka THE SECOND COMING. . .to repeat the SAME failed exercise!

No wonder we have 'rituals' all over Nigeria. . .as kpe 'DO THIS IN REMEMBRANCE OF MOI'!

WHAT A JOKE!

obadiah777: HE WAS NOT SENT TO THE WHOLE WORLD. MATTHEW 15 VS 24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.

Tank u,bro! I knw som1 wil com nd ovawrite dis wit anoda verse frm dsame bible..Dis is HOLY AMBIGUITY!

Meanwhile Israal is 'nuking' it's neighbours. . . O chosen peeps of 'piss'!

kay29000: From the replies i have gotten, i can see that even the Christians are confused.

Xtainity is a religion of love, so they confused u wit lovly reply! Go nd drink bt dnt b drunk cos he died 4 ur sin! Dos dat answr ur question?

Sent 2 d isrealites?jews ar killin arabs nd xtains! How com those white nd'igbo(d jews) crucified him nd he stil died 4 dem? palestinians apear 2 luv jesus mor dan d isrealites. Son of GOD nd he's at dsame time son of a carpenter..! Lawd help us all!

caseless: Wat an insult 2 jesus! LOTT ppl wer punishd 4 same sex stuff,so who did lott die 4? U mean jesus died 4 hitler,muslini,bush,blair,osama,idiamin nd nigerian leaders? U must b jokin! All man 4 himsef. If u 4kup(sin),GOD go clear ur doubt. Repent!

Different interpretations of the bible is slowly killing Christianity. I think it's best I stick to what I learned from childhood - Jesus died for our sins, period!

obadiah777: he is I and I am he. reincarnates with the same soul but different sceen name

Holy Jesus suffered for the sins of the real believers of God only

Holy Jesus suffered for the sins of the real believers of God only. One of the basic ideas of the human incarnation is to suffer for the sins of deserving devotees. The human body is selected for incarnation for this very purpose. The human body of the incarnation suffers like any other human body. Then alone is the real transfer of sins fully justified. The incarnation can avoid the pain during suffering devotees’ sins by using the super power of God. But God never deceives justice. Therefore Jesus really suffered all the punishments of deserving devotees as any other human body suffers and fulfilled the justice in the transfer of sins. This is the real reason why God selects a human body and gets identified with it. If it is an inert statue, such transfer of suffering cannot take place.

Although the Son is suffering on the Holy Cross, actually it is the Father who pervaded all over the Son that suffered. This is the essence of saying that Father and Son are one and the same.

The Father does not suffer the sins of wicked people who will not change at all. Those who are the real devotees and those who have served the Lord without aspiring for anything in return are only liberated from their sins. Such devotees never pray to the Lord for liberation from their sins because they never desire that the Lord should suffer for their sins. Therefore, they never agree to the liberation from their sins. If they come to know, they will object to such a transfer of sins because they are the real devotees of God. Hence the Lord suffers for their sins without revealing it to them. If you do not turn to the Lord, you have to carry all your sins with you and go to hell. If you turn towards the Lord, He will liberate you from all your sins provided you change and continue the rest of your life in His divine service.

His work is to bring peace in this world and see that every human being gets salvation. He wants hell to be permanently closed. But you should turn towards God without aspiring for liberation from your sins. You must participate in His service and yet you should be ready to undergo the punishments of your sins as per the rule. You should not ask Him or even desire for such liberation from your sins. Once you desire for such liberation, you are indirectly asking the Lord to suffer for your sins. In such a case, you are not His real devotee. He takes your sins and liberates you only when you serve Him without any aspiration for such liberation.

seriallink:

Different interpretations of the bible is slowly killing Christianity. I think it's best I stick to what I learned from childhood - Jesus died for our sins, period!

Read the bible for yourself. you are an adult now. This is not the time to be timid about scriptures. Iran is stockpiling nuclear weapons and Israel and america want to attack. then china and russia will back iran. this is the battle of armageddon in the valley of jehoshaphat that is spoken about in the book of joel and revelation. also snippets of it in the book of Obadiah and Isaiah and Ezekiel and Jeremiah. This third world war will usher in the coming of Christ. we are truly in the last days of the ages. anytime from now tribulation will be upon us. the scriptures which were closed in the book of daniel 12 vs 4 will be opened up in the last days. this is why we are now getting the real understanding of what scriptures was really about. because these are the last days. no one could interpret these words before. we all got deluded with the church doctrine, i myself to an extent, although the incredulity of the whole church doctrine kinda made me a passive follower of Christ for a long time. like how they say all you have to do is believe he died for you and you are saved...isnt that the biggest piece of crappy information you ever heard in your life ? just believe he died for you and you are saved...sounds ridiculous. even hitler can believe he was saved by the Blood of Jesus and get saved then if thats the case

dattaswami:
Holy Jesus suffered for the sins of the real believers of God only

Holy Jesus suffered for the sins of the real believers of God only. One of the basic ideas of the human incarnation is to suffer for the sins of deserving devotees. The human body is selected for incarnation for this very purpose. The human body of the incarnation suffers like any other human body. Then alone is the real transfer of sins fully justified. The incarnation can avoid the pain during suffering devotees’ sins by using the super power of God. But God never deceives justice. Therefore Jesus really suffered all the punishments of deserving devotees as any other human body suffers and fulfilled the justice in the transfer of sins. This is the real reason why God selects a human body and gets identified with it. If it is an inert statue, such transfer of suffering cannot take place.

Although the Son is suffering on the Holy Cross, actually it is the Father who pervaded all over the Son that suffered. This is the essence of saying that Father and Son are one and the same.

The Father does not suffer the sins of wicked people who will not change at all. Those who are the real devotees and those who have served the Lord without aspiring for anything in return are only liberated from their sins. Such devotees never pray to the Lord for liberation from their sins because they never desire that the Lord should suffer for their sins. Therefore, they never agree to the liberation from their sins. If they come to know, they will object to such a transfer of sins because they are the real devotees of God. Hence the Lord suffers for their sins without revealing it to them. If you do not turn to the Lord, you have to carry all your sins with you and go to hell. If you turn towards the Lord, He will liberate you from all your sins provided you change and continue the rest of your life in His divine service.

His work is to bring peace in this world and see that every human being gets salvation. He wants hell to be permanently closed. But you should turn towards God without aspiring for liberation from your sins. You must participate in His service and yet you should be ready to undergo the punishments of your sins as per the rule. You should not ask Him or even desire for such liberation from your sins. Once you desire for such liberation, you are indirectly asking the Lord to suffer for your sins. In such a case, you are not His real devotee. He takes your sins and liberates you only when you serve Him without any aspiration for such liberation.

great read but you came up with all this stuff out of your own vain opinion. you have to remember now, scripture is of no private interpretation 2 peter 1 vs 20 . However i agree with the direction you are going with this which is that those who genuinely do his will and seek him diligently will be pulled into the fold.

obadiah777: Read the bible for yourself. you are an adult now. This is not the time to be timid about scriptures. Iran is stockpiling nuclear weapons and Israel and america want to attack. then china and russia will back iran. this is the battle of armageddon in the valley of jehoshaphat that is spoken about in the book of joel and revelation. also snippets of it in the book of Obadiah and Isaiah and Ezekiel and Jeremiah. This third world war will usher in the coming of Christ. we are truly in the last days of the ages. anytime from now tribulation will be upon us. the scriptures which were closed in the book of daniel 12 vs 4 will be opened up in the last days. this is why we are now getting the real understanding of what scriptures was really about. because these are the last days. no one could interpret these words before. we all got deluded with the church doctrine, i myself to an extent, although the incredulity of the whole church doctrine kinda made me a passive follower of Christ for a long time. like how they say all you have to do is believe he died for you and you are saved...isnt that the biggest piece of crappy information you ever heard in your life ? just believe he died for you and you are saved...sounds ridiculous. even hitler can believe he was saved by the Blood of Jesus and get saved then if thats the case

iran stockpiling nuclear weapons?thats news to me.attempting uranium enrichment,i have heard of that.for nuclear purposes?(so claims isreal and the west).for domestic purposes?(so claims iran).in essence even if it intends to build or "stockpile" nuclear weapons,it is still a couple of years away from been able to do that.besides we can remember a familiar storyline was played out with claims oof WMDs in iraq.if memory serves me right,isreal has in excess of 100nuclear warheads.hence it should be considered a larger risk to the middle east ahead of iran seeing the way it pelted women and kids in gaza with phosphorus bombs 2years ago killing almost 2500 of them

Delafruita:
iran stockpiling nuclear weapons?thats news to me.attempting uranium enrichment,i have heard of that.for nuclear purposes?(so claims isreal and the west).for domestic purposes?(so claims iran).in essence even if it intends to build or "stockpile" nuclear weapons,it is still a couple of years away from been able to do that.besides we can remember a familiar storyline was played out with claims oof WMDs in iraq.if memory serves me right,isreal has in excess of 100nuclear warheads.hence it should be considered a larger risk to the middle east ahead of iran seeing the way it pelted women and kids in gaza with phosphorus bombs 2years ago killing almost 2500 of them

I would post youtube videos but everytime i do, my account gets banned for 1 hour.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36TzACt2kHM

ROMANS 11 VS 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace REMNANT 144,000. NOT ALL HUMANS

1 CORINTHIANS 15 VS 23 But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. SO THE ORDER OF SALVATION IS CHRIST, THEN THE FIRST FRUITS WHICH ARE THE ELECT 144,000. THEN THE REST OF YALL WHO MAKE IT WHEN HE RETURNS. CHRIST AND THE FIRST FRUITS ARE ALREADY SAVED. ITS YALLS TURN

YALL JUST GOING TO HAVE TO WORKOUT YOUR OWN SALVATION. NO FREE 'I AM SAVED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS' MEALS

obadiah777: I would post youtube videos but everytime i do, my account gets banned for 1 hour.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36TzACt2kHM

youtube videos showing what?

obadiah777: ROMANS 11 VS 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace REMNANT 144,000. NOT ALL HUMANS

1 CORINTHIANS 15 VS 23 But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. SO THE ORDER OF SALVATION IS CHRIST, THEN THE FIRST FRUITS WHICH ARE THE ELECT 144,000. THEN THE REST OF YALL WHO MAKE IT WHEN HE RETURNS. CHRIST AND THE FIRST FRUITS ARE ALREADY SAVED. ITS YALLS TURN

YALL JUST GOING TO HAVE TO WORKOUT YOUR OWN SALVATION. NO FREE 'I AM SAVED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS' MEALS

the "normal" christian teachings sound sillly to a logical mind.then you come with your analogies which make the "normal" christian teachings sound very logical.then i begin to wonder how possible it is for a person to actually believe in these things you profess which then brings me to the conclusion that you are the "nigerian in diaspora" clone of the "antichrist".you,brother are out to deceive the "elect" which by the way includes my humble self.

I will be writing on why JESUS CHRIST died for our sin on my website very shortly http://www.adeseye.com to let Christians know the main reason because some don't.

Mr_Anony:
You asked;

Just so we come to some clarity as well as to help us answer the question, let me ask you this:

What if God did not punish sin at all. i.e. If there were no bad consequences for sin, will anything be wrong with sin?

i dont know what would happen.
but an All Loving, All Merciful God could have just forgiven adam & eve and not hold it against me.
adam didn't ask me before eating the apple.