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God, Man & Free Will! by joe4christ(m): 9:37am On Sep 11, 2012
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Interesting examples you have there. Anyways, none of you has yet been able to demonstrate the freewill offered by a [size=15pt]God who condemns you if you don't serve him. [/size] The "freewill" to choose otherwise? lol. The only "choice" I see here is the same offered by the tyrannical Head of State who allows his people freedom of speech, but then goes ahead to lock them up when they say something he doesn't like. The people have a "choice" too, apparently. If you want to roll with the president, you must be his kind of guy (say only what he wants to hear). After all, he's the boss.

If that's your definition of freewill, then I accept: God gave us "freewill" indeed.


You just dont get it, or do you?
If the life you live was not authored by you but rather was created by God then you owe him your very life, or dont u think so? Even though u deny it it does'nt realy change the fact that you're God's product, can a clay dictate to it's potter/maker how to mold it? No of course, it's the will of the potter to mold his clay as he deem fit. Is'nt it?

God made man in his own image and gave man freedom to live freely like god on earth over every living thing (Dont you yet understand?) that God wanted a replica of himself to rule the earth, he was'nt looking for a slave to impose his will on else he would'nt have given man free will.
you need to understand that God the creator is a God of creativity, he delight in doing this, but remember the free will he gave to man makes man a responsible being else we would have been like animals who cannot be held responsible for their actions cause they know little to nothing cos they were'nt given free will, they only live as nature dictates for them.
But for man, God did not just gave him free will but he also gave him a law to keep man under check else we all know man would have gone beyond boundries, so God gave man laws of do and donts to keep man under check, those laws were plain so man had the choice to either obey or disobey God's command, the consequencies of man's actions are being meted out clearly so he has no excuse for choosing to disobey.

[size=15pt]No wonder the bible says where there is no law the people are not held accountable for sin - Romans 5:13 [/size]
But that's not the case, cos God gave man this laws, do you wanna know why God gave man this free will and a law?

I'll tell you here, though it's a mystery but i'm allowed to unvail it, cos just like the story of Job, God wanted to prove an everlasting point to whole of creation both spirits and the living, both angels and demons, both principalities and powers and rulers of this dark age, both all living in the heavenlies and the inhabitants of hell that [size=15pt] Man despite being given freewill and laws even without seeing this God can still chose to believe, obey and trust this unseen God and even love him and because of that love chose to stay away from anything that would go against his laws, meaning man can still use his free will for God's purpose and benefit believing they owe their very life to him and remain loyal to him without him God influencing their actions.

So it's just like the whole of creation are watching us act, no wonder the bible says we are daily watched by a great cloud of witness - Hebrew 12:1 [/size]
So is it wrong for God to boast about his own creation as he did in the days of Job?
He gave man freewill and sits back to watch those who would freely chose to obey him and those who would disobey - without the influence of both God and the devil.
So it's your choice either to follow God all the way or use that same life given to you by God to glorify God's adversery (satan) each of this choices have eternal consequences and they are not hidden but made plain by God in his written word - The Bible.

Nough said already. God bless!

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