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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Samwise001: 8:17am On Jun 07
Hello guys. Please what's the course outline for medical rehab in oau(100l), is it the same as medicine?
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Orezy5(m): 9:35am On Jun 07
Samwise001:
Hello guys. Please what's the course outline for medical rehab in oau(100l), is it the same as medicine?

Yes, it's the same as that of Medicine
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Samwise001: 7:54pm On Jun 07
Orezy5:


Yes, it's the same as that of Medicine

Thanks bro.
Pls can you give the course outline for medicine in 100level (oau if possible)
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Orezy5(m): 8:42pm On Jun 07
Samwise001:


Thanks bro.
Pls can you give the course outline for medicine in 100level (oau if possible)

All right bro..

FIRST SEMESTER

CHM101 - Introductory Chemistry 1
CHM103 - Experimental Chemistry 1
PHY105 - Physics for Biological Sciences 1
PHY107 - Experimental Physics 1
ZOO101 - Introductory Zoology
ZOO103 - Experimental Zoology
BOT101 - Introductory Botany
BOT103 - Experimental Botany
SER001 - Use of English
LIB001 - Use of The Library
SSC101 - Man and his Social Environment



[b]SECOND
SEMESTER

CHM102 - Introductory Chemistry 2
CHM104 - Experimental Chemistry 2
PHY106 - Physics For biological sciences 2
PHY108 - Experimental Physics 2
BOT102 - Introductory Botany 2
BOT104 - Experimental Botany 2
SSC102 - Man and his Economic Environment

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Samwise001: 6:14pm On Jun 08
Orezy5:


All right bro..

FIRST SEMESTER

CHM101 - Introductory Chemistry 1
CHM103 - Experimental Chemistry 1
PHY105 - Physics for Biological Sciences 1
PHY107 - Experimental Physics 1
ZOO101 - Introductory Zoology
ZOO103 - Experimental Zoology
BOT101 - Introductory Botany
BOT103 - Experimental Botany
SER001 - Use of English
LIB001 - Use of The Library
SSC101 - Man and his Social Environment


[b]SECOND
SEMESTER

CHM102 - Introductory Chemistry 2
CHM104 - Experimental Chemistry 2
PHY106 - Physics For biological sciences 2
PHY108 - Experimental Physics 2
BOT102 - Introductory Botany 2
BOT104 - Experimental Botany 2
SSC102 - Man and his Economic Environment





Wow
I really appreciate it bro
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Orezy5(m): 6:33pm On Jun 08
smiley
Samwise001:



Wow
I really appreciate it bro
You're welcome
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by infinitypro(m): 4:00am On Jun 09
Hello everyone, trust you'al having a great weekend. Just a quick question...

Does anyone know if jamb change of institution is still on? Direct Entry (DE) particularly

Many thanks.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by OliviaPope(f): 4:24pm On Jun 10
lomaxx:


Gross Anatomy: Snell's Clinical Anatomy By Regions

Histology : BRS Histology + Di Fiore's Atlas of Histology

Embryology : BRS Embryology

Physiology : NMS Physiology plus/minus Fox Physiology

Biochemistry : MN Charteajea Textbook of Medical Biochemistry

The books I recommend to medical students are often looked down upon. They are indeed risk adventures. Most medical students I recommend books to end up not using them. Why? Because they're not the usual books. Medical students are used to the books generations ahead of them used and prefer spending long grueling hours on huge endless textbooks. To some of them, that's the drill.

But one girl attempted to use of of the books I recommended in her Pathology exam. Her classmates were studying Almighty Robbins and Cortran Pathologic Basis of Disease. I told her not to use it. My reason: the book was too detailed and time wasting. I offered her a trio of Pathology Secrets+Pathguy.com+Some lecture notes I emailed her. The results was out last week- she topped the class with a distinction mark. They still think she's a genius.

Happy weekend.
Hello. Do you still have these textbooks and lecture notes @ bolded?


Robbins is giving me headaches , help cry

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Precious111(f): 6:07pm On Jun 10
infinitypro:
Hello everyone, trust you'al having a great weekend. Just a quick question...

Does anyone know if jamb change of institution is still on? Direct Entry (DE) particularly

Many thanks.

@bolded it's still on

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by sirseg: 6:36pm On Jun 12
Rursh:

Orezy of God! that name rings a bell esp. in the last year thread. how are you? what did you score in UTME?
which medical school are you now?
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by sirseg: 6:45pm On Jun 12
I finally found a medical thread, not a just thread,but a place where dreams that are dead are rewaken...tanks to Dr lagusta...
I have been reading through the pages of this thread few months back,OMG.I really appreciate the efforts of the bosses for the advices given nd also for sharing their experiences in med school.
I hope to see this thread come back alive again...I'm sirseg,a medical aspirant of great Ife(Oba awon university).

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by hagiosfemi(m): 7:33pm On Jun 12
OliviaPope:
Hello. Do you still have these textbooks and lecture notes @ bolded?


Robbins is giving me headaches , help cry
Lol.. Robbins, the molecular stuff and those genes repel me ... Try some pathoma videos download at www.freemedtube.com
Am a student of OOU, u?

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by OliviaPope(f): 10:41pm On Jun 12
hagiosfemi:

Lol.. Robbins, the molecular stuff and those genes repel me ... Try some pathoma videos download at www.freemedtube.com
Am a student of OOU, u?
Thank you! Uniben.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Bobola07(m): 6:19pm On Jun 14
Major0303:
I don't know if UI takes 2 Waec sittings

for all courses in the college of medicine, UI requires O'level at one sitting
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Mandeyy: 6:14pm On Jun 15
Benjax:


Thank you sir for your intelligent opinion. I appreciate. Then, based on your understanding of the system, could you tell what becomes of the majority of those candidates in the schools like UNN & UNICAL with excess intake in BDS?

Also address this: I fear UI! 'Not certain of PUTME success.
Put UNN and then study harder. I'm a dental student there. I agree there's unnecessary competition there, but if you work very hard, you'll pass. It's not easy though. Nigeria is highly corrupt, otherwise i don't see why a Vice Chancellor will exceed admission quota for both medicine and dentistry, yet he's a professor of medicine. This is corruption. In this current 200 level, medicine and dentistry are up to almost 350 and 200 respectively. This is because about 105 students failed in medicine while about 57 dental students failed in the 2nd MBBS/BDS exam they sat for recently. Because of the high numbers, if a student fails all the three courses at 1st attempt even with a 45 or 46% score, he/she will be expelled. I am not quite sure of that shaa, but the rumour has been circulating for a while now.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by DrImmaculate: 6:51pm On Jun 15
OliviaPope:
Thank you! Uniben.
Hi everyone, I'm an aspirant of UNIBEN for med n surge...I'll appreciate ur advice. other asp. of same sch should pls signify.. olivia pope, I sight u ooo, did u just write d just concluded MBBS Part2 exams?
Well after reading from (pg 0-530), I have more inspiration than ever all tnx to d founder Lagusta n others like lomaxx, charleymed, alutacontinua, DrHesjay, ikevin, ebsuguy, afobam, ambfitsaint, drAmanda et al. U guys are geniuses n have made me not to give up in my quest for MBBS n God will bless u all.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Mandeyy: 8:25pm On Jun 15
Benjax:
How I wish real people could help me on the hopes of BDS holders in Nigeria.
-A friend said it's all about maxillo-facial surgery.
-A BDS graduate regrets for not getting internship placement for 5yrs,that the course is only worth vying for abroad.
-A Prof. said Pharmacy is very lucrative, that they sell expensive drugs and make huge gains.
-A colleague said Nigeria BDS holders can only work abroad after a further training unlike MBBS who only writes an exam, because our training in Nigeria is rather crude.
-And a lot of things.
-And they urge me to convert 279@UTME from pursuing BDS to getting MBBS.

*Who has anything to say?
Bro, i am a UNN dental student. The only problem in dentistry is passing the exam. It's a very hard course. Before i got admission into it, i used to think it's easy and that it's all about pulling teeth. But now that i'm into it, i now know my previous perception of it was wrong. In fact, both medicine and dentistry do the same courses from 1st year to fourth (4th) year before going their separate ways in fifth year. As if that's not enough, 5th yr dental students will thereafter join final yr medical students to do their final yr courses with them which will require them going to clinical posting together with these final year medical students and then write the same exam with them for these courses, despite the fact that dentistry is for the oral and maxillofacial region. Then in final yr, they will focus on their core dental courses.


In Nigeria today, with due respect to medical graduates, it's easier for a dental graduate to get housemanship placement than a medical graduate, cos dental graduates are few in number. Besides, more hospitals now have dental clinics than before.

Dentistry is not all about oral and maxillofacial surgery. There are other dental specialties similar in clinical work like in medicine such as oral and maxillofacial pathology, oral medicine, oral radiology and even oral anaesthesiology. What a medical doctor who is a pathologist does in other parts of human body other than oral and maxillofacial region is what a dental doctor who is an oral pathologist does in the oral and maxillofacial region. It's the same procedures with slight variations, due to the uniqueness of the different parts of the body. Besides, an oral pathologist while in residency training still rotates through general pathology and internal medicine. The same is applicable to an oral radiologist and an oral anaesthetist. The fomer Chief Medical Director (CMD) of Lagos University Teaching Hospital (LUTH), Prof. Onatolu Odukoya, is a dentist. He's a consultant oral pathologist. Even the current Registrar, MDCN, Dr T.A.B. Sanusi, is a dentist. Besides, it's still the same National Postgraduate Medical College of Nigeria (NPMCN) and West African College of Physicians and Surgeons that both medical and dental doctors pass through before becoming consultants. As of last year, the president of National Postgraduate Medical College of Nigeria (NPMCN) was Professor Ademola Abayomi Olaitan, a consultant oral and maxillofacial surgeon. The two professions write primaries, do a residency training of about 4-7 years before becoming consultants, have the same privileges and emoluments. It's only the ignorant public who doesn't know much about dentistry and always thinks ignorantly that it's the study of pulling teeth who respects medical doctors more (besides, dentist's respect comes from his/her patients who know a dentist's worth). However, a knowledgeable person knows the two professions are very essential and therefore accords them equal respect.

The ignorant public does not know that oral cancers and other pathologies of the oral and maxillofacial region, other than dental diseases, are diagnosed by dentists specifically oral pathologists, oral radiologists, consultants in oral medicine and oral and maxillofacial surgeons who are all dentists.

Even in private practice in Nigeria, Dentistry is also lucrative. Ignore what the public says about this. On this Nairaland, somebody said he uprooted three teeth for N90,000 in Ilorin apart from consultation and x-ray fees. One of the teeth was impacted and after x-ray, the dentist discovered facial nerve passed near it and can only be surgically extracted by an oral and maxillofacial surgeon, otherwise the nerve may get injured in the process. He said he visited some private dental clinics (up to 10) in Ilorin, and each of them was busy while the less busy ones had up to 10 patients. He said he was charged N60,000 in Govt Hospital for the same procedure.

There are still other branches of dentistry such as periodontology, prosthodontics, dental public health, general dental practice (family dentistry), orthodontics, endodontics, and child dental health (paediatric dentistry).

The UNN 2017 dental graduates all got internship placements without delay. So, ignore ignorant public's perception of dentistry. It's not the real picture of dentistry they portray.

For ur info, this link shows the work of a consultant prosthodontist in London. See the link: http://www.wereblog.com/eric-moger-the-man-who-lost-his-face-to-nose-cancer-gets-his-face-back This shows the importance of dentistry especially oral and maxillofacial surgery in Cambodia. See the link: https://www.phnompenhpost.com/7days/nil-mouth-how-cambodia-desperate-oral-surgeons



A colleague said Nigeria BDS holders can only work abroad after a further training unlike MBBS who only writes an exam, because our training in Nigeria is rather crude.

Dental training in Nigeria is not crude; it's the same as medicine. Every profession in different countries has its requirement. That does not mean its training in another country is crude. The only problem with dental training and by extension medical training in Nigeria, is lack of Hi-tech equipment which Western education in developed countries boasts of. Dentistry in America requires a foreign dentist (not just a Nigerian dentist) to come to America, sit for National Board for Dental Education (NBDE) exam, pass it and study for 2 years before acquiring DDS or DMD afterwhich the dental graduate will get a licence to practise.

Also for medicine, you start writing the exam in a foreign country, then pass it, come to America and start residency. It's all different strokes for different folks. Besides, passing the medical exam is still not easy. Let's be contented with where God has put us to bring a positive change to humanity.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by OliviaPope(f): 5:32pm On Jun 16
DrImmaculate:
. olivia pope, I sight u ooo, did u just write d just concluded MBBS Part2 exams?

Nope.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by DrHesjay(m): 9:04pm On Jun 16
You said it all..

Itrs been 5years and irts really sad that i still come back to nairaland to see people say myth that we already tried as much as possible to demystify in 2012, 2013.

I dont even know where people get ideas like that, its really sad. The ignorant ones refuse to keep shut, all they know is misleading younger ones.

someone didnt get internship for 5vears, and the aspirant sef believed that statement?
Mandeyy:
Bro, i am a UNN dental student. The only problem in dentistry is passing the exam. It's a very hard course. Before i got admission into it, i used to think it's easy and that it's all about pulling teeth. But now that i'm into it, i now know my previous perception of it was wrong. In fact, both medicine and dentistry do the same courses from 1st year to fourth (4th) year before going their separate ways in fifth year. As if that's not enough, 5th yr dental students will thereafter join final yr medical students to do their final yr courses with them which will require them going to clinical posting together with these final year medical students and then write the same exam with them for these courses, despite the fact that dentistry is for the oral and maxillofacial region. Then in final yr, they will focus on their core dental courses.


In Nigeria today, with due respect to medical graduates, it's easier for a dental graduate to get housemanship placement than a medical graduate, cos dental graduates are few in number. Besides, more hospitals now have dental clinics than before.

Dentistry is not all about oral and maxillofacial surgery. There are other dental specialties similar in clinical work like in medicine such as oral and maxillofacial pathology, oral medicine, oral radiology and even oral anaesthesiology. What a medical doctor who is a pathologist does in other parts of human body other than oral and maxillofacial region is what a dental doctor who is an oral pathologist does in the oral and maxillofacial region. It's the same procedures with slight variations, due to the uniqueness of the different parts of the body. Besides, an oral pathologist while in residency training still rotates through general pathology and internal medicine. The same is applicable to an oral radiologist and an oral anaesthetist. The fomer Chief Medical Director (CMD) of Lagos University Teaching Hospital (LUTH), Prof. Onatolu Odukoya, is a dentist. He's a consultant oral pathologist. Even the current Registrar, MDCN, Dr T.A.B. Sanusi, is a dentist. Besides, it's still the same National Postgraduate Medical College of Nigeria (NPMCN) and West African College of Physicians and Surgeons that both medical and dental doctors pass through before becoming consultants. As of last year, the president of National Postgraduate Medical College of Nigeria (NPMCN) was Professor Ademola Abayomi Olaitan, a consultant oral and maxillofacial surgeon. The two professions write primaries, do a residency training of about 4-7 years before becoming consultants, have the same privileges and emoluments. It's only the ignorant public who doesn't know much about dentistry and always thinks ignorantly that it's the study of pulling teeth who respects medical doctors more (besides, dentist's respect comes from his/her patients who know a dentist's worth). However, a knowledgeable person knows the two professions are very essential and therefore accords them equal respect.

The ignorant public does not know that oral cancers and other pathologies of the oral and maxillofacial region, other than dental diseases, are diagnosed by dentists specifically oral pathologists, oral radiologists, consultants in oral medicine and oral and maxillofacial surgeons who are all dentists.

Even in private practice in Nigeria, Dentistry is also lucrative. Ignore what the public says about this. On this Nairaland, somebody said he uprooted three teeth for N90,000 in Ilorin apart from consultation and x-ray fees. One of the teeth was impacted and after x-ray, the dentist discovered facial nerve passed near it and can only be surgically extracted by an oral and maxillofacial surgeon, otherwise the nerve may get injured in the process. He said he visited some private dental clinics (up to 10) in Ilorin, and each of them was busy while the less busy ones had up to 10 patients. He said he was charged N60,000 in Govt Hospital for the same procedure.

There are still other branches of dentistry such as periodontology, prosthodontics, dental public health, general dental practice (family dentistry), orthodontics, endodontics, and child dental health (paediatric dentistry).

The UNN 2017 dental graduates all got internship placements without delay. So, ignore ignorant public's perception of dentistry. It's not the real picture of dentistry they portray.

For ur info, this link shows the work of a consultant prosthodontist in London. See the link: http://www.wereblog.com/eric-moger-the-man-who-lost-his-face-to-nose-cancer-gets-his-face-back This shows the importance of dentistry especially oral and maxillofacial surgery in Cambodia. See the link: https://www.phnompenhpost.com/7days/nil-mouth-how-cambodia-desperate-oral-surgeons



A colleague said Nigeria BDS holders can only work abroad after a further training unlike MBBS who only writes an exam, because our training in Nigeria is rather crude.

Dental training in Nigeria is not crude; it's the same as medicine. Every profession in different countries has its requirement. That does not mean its training in another country is crude. The only problem with dental training and by extension medical training in Nigeria, is lack of Hi-tech equipment which Western education in developed countries boasts of. Dentistry in America requires a foreign dentist (not just a Nigerian dentist) to come to America, sit for National Board for Dental Education (NBDE) exam, pass it and study for 2 years before acquiring DDS or DMD afterwhich the dental graduate will get a licence to practise.

Also for medicine, you start writing the exam in a foreign country, then pass it, come to America and start residency. It's all different strokes for different folks. Besides, passing the medical exam is still not easy. Let's be contented with where God has put us to bring a positive change to humanity.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Bigboy289(m): 1:08am On Jun 17
aspirant grin
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by hellohgy(m): 7:53am On Jun 17
Please my bosses in the house...
Which textbook is best for Anatomy Between Charusia And KeithMoore...
this has been causing confusion ..pls help
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Sureshegsy(m): 9:37am On Jun 17
please which textbooks can I used for my physiology(sembulingam or guyton), biochemistry,Anatomy(Keith Moore or chaurasia), embryology and histology
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by hagiosfemi(m): 12:16pm On Jun 17
hellohgy:
Please my bosses in the house...

Which textbook is best for Anatomy Between Charusia And KeithMoore...

this has been causing confusion ..pls help
Depends on your school too, ur lecturer's preference and your FLAIR! (Most important).
My candid advice as a fellow medic, Keith Moore is better for a medical student (for correct knowledge sake). With my little wardround experience, text books like Keith Moore, Snell's, Harold Ellis, BRS are clinically sound and give you major stuff you need as a medical students. Textbooks like Chaurasia are too deeply anatomic (if you will pardon my language) and uninteresting. Get Keith Moore, acland videos and learning AIDS. Also, Last's anatomy to me is hyperstuffy and only a postgraduate resident surgeon will appreciate the book the more. Summarily, read what will make learning easier and easy to apply.

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by hagiosfemi(m): 12:24pm On Jun 17
Sureshegsy:
please which textbooks can I used for my physiology(sembulingam or guyton), biochemistry,Anatomy(Keith Moore or chaurasia), embryology and histology
What is the name of your school? What is your lecturer's preference? To pass in medical school, you must play by the rule.
Beyond passing exams, read my advice on anatomy textbook on my above. For physiology, I will advise textbooks like Fox physiology, Linda contanzo (big) or even guyton. Sembulingam is truly easy but you will know nothing except crammed fact you won't be able to apply. Trust me, when you go higher in medical school, you will regret you read sembulingam when the real stuff confronts you (though it is very good for essays). Ganong is good but an average student cannot cope with it. It is better you grab guyton (my personal opinion though).
Biochemistry, Vasudevan is good. Embryology (Keith Moore seems good). Histology (I can only talk of Junquiera).

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Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Bobola07(m): 7:26pm On Jun 17
Mandeyy:
Bro, i am a UNN dental student. The only problem in dentistry is passing the exam. It's a very hard course. Before i got admission into it, i used to think it's easy and that it's all about pulling teeth. But now that i'm into it, i now know my previous perception of it was wrong. In fact, both medicine and dentistry do the same courses from 1st year to fourth (4th) year before going their separate ways in fifth year. As if that's not enough, 5th yr dental students will thereafter join final yr medical students to do their final yr courses with them which will require them going to clinical posting together with these final year medical students and then write the same exam with them for these courses, despite the fact that dentistry is for the oral and maxillofacial region. Then in final yr, they will focus on their core dental courses.......

Well delivered Chief.
The holybook has said it all. "My people perish for lack of knowledge"
Some UI final yr Dental students paid us (100L students) a visit yesterday and they said almost everything you just typed out.

I think those who will suffer more are those who have access to knowledge but refuse to tap into it.

good evening
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Sureshegsy(m): 8:53pm On Jun 17
hagiosfemi:

What is the name of your school? What is your lecturer's preference? To pass in medical school, you must play by the rule.
Beyond passing exams, read my advice on anatomy textbook on my above. For physiology, I will advise textbooks like Fox physiology, Linda contanzo (big) or even guyton. Sembulingam is truly easy but you will know nothing except crammed fact you won't be able to apply. Trust me, when you go higher in medical school, you will regret you read sembulingam when the real stuff confronts you (though it is very good for essays). Ganong is good but an average student cannot cope with it. It is better you grab guyton (my personal opinion though).
Biochemistry, Vasudevan is good. Embryology (Keith Moore seems good). Histology (I can only talk of Junquiera).
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Sureshegsy(m): 8:55pm On Jun 17
hagiosfemi:

What is the name of your school? What is your lecturer's preference? To pass in medical school, you must play by the rule.
Beyond passing exams, read my advice on anatomy textbook on my above. For physiology, I will advise textbooks like Fox physiology, Linda contanzo (big) or even guyton. Sembulingam is truly easy but you will know nothing except crammed fact you won't be able to apply. Trust me, when you go higher in medical school, you will regret you read sembulingam when the real stuff confronts you (though it is very good for essays). Ganong is good but an average student cannot cope with it. It is better you grab guyton (my personal opinion though).
Biochemistry, Vasudevan is good. Embryology (Keith Moore seems good). Histology (I can only talk of Junquiera).
Thanks boss am in lautech we will be finishing our second semester by August so I have to start preparing for the textbooks
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Bigboy289(m): 9:00pm On Jun 17
guys, can i use cambridge a level for direct entry for medicine and surgery.
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by stemmez(f): 12:19pm On Jun 18
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Bigboy289(m): 1:00pm On Jun 18
is D.E accepted 4 med & surg
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by Indomixx: 1:10pm On Jun 18
DrImmaculate:

Hi everyone, I'm an aspirant of UNIBEN for med n surge...I'll appreciate ur advice. other asp. of same sch should pls signify.. olivia pope, I sight u ooo, did u just write d just concluded MBBS Part2 exams?
Well after reading from (pg 0-530), I have more inspiration than ever all tnx to d founder Lagusta n others like lomaxx, charleymed, alutacontinua, DrHesjay, ikevin, ebsuguy, afobam, ambfitsaint, drAmanda et al. U guys are geniuses n have made me not to give up in my quest for MBBS n God will bless u all.
Hi..
I'm a med and surg aspirant of Uniben.... Can we link up??
Re: The medical students and aspirants thread by hellohgy(m): 1:55pm On Jun 18
pls I there any group for .medical students...
I will like to join. the group

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