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Holy Amnesia - A Solution To Islamic Relgious Violence. by TheOP1(m): 5:02pm On Oct 03, 2012 |
Given this violent legacy in religion lets compare the brutality quotient of the Quran and the Bible. Defense Vs. Total Annihilation Much to my surprise, the Islamic scriptures in the Quran were actually far less bloody and less violent than those in the Bible. Violence in the Quran, is largely a defense against attack. "By the standards of the time, which is the 7th century A.D., the laws of war that are laid down by the Quran are actually reasonably humane. Then we turn to the Bible, and we actually find something that is for many people a real surprise. There is a specific kind of warfare laid down in the Bible which we can only call genocide. It is called herem, and it means total annihilation. Consider the Book of 1 Samuel, when God instructs King Saul to attack the Amalekites: "And utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them," God says through the prophet Samuel. "But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." When Saul failed to do that, God took away his kingdom. "In other words, Saul has committed a dreadful sin by failing to complete genocide. And that passage echoes through Christian history. It is often used, for example, in American stories of the confrontation with Indians — not just is it legitimate to kill Indians, but you are violating God's law if you do not." The history of Christianity is strewn with herem. During the Crusades in the Middle Ages, the Catholic popes declared the Muslims Amalekites. In the great religious wars in the 16th, 17th and 19th centuries, Protestants and Catholics each believed the other side were the Amalekites and should be utterly destroyed. 'Holy Amnesia' But even though the Bible is violent, Christianity and Judaism today are not for the most part. "What happens in all religions as they grow and mature and expand, they go through a process of forgetting of the original violence, and I call this a process of holy amnesia. Its only a matter of time before Islam loses its violent side. |
Re: Holy Amnesia - A Solution To Islamic Relgious Violence. by butterflyy(f): 5:09pm On Oct 03, 2012 |
I sorry for u. U re only citing these examples to justify moslems insatiable thirst for blood. Change while therez time. |
Re: Holy Amnesia - A Solution To Islamic Relgious Violence. by TheOP1(m): 5:28pm On Oct 03, 2012 |
NO. Its God's insatiable thirst for blood that worries me. Ever wondered why your God couldnt forgive the sins of his own creation without spilling blood (On the cross). |
Re: Holy Amnesia - A Solution To Islamic Relgious Violence. by manmacho: 5:39pm On Oct 03, 2012 |
The OP: NO. Its God's insatiable thirst for blood that worries me.The bible says without the shedding of blood there will be no remission for sin. That makes Jesus the holy lamb of God a perfect subtitute for our sin. From your earlier quote; the death penalties u see in old testament applied to everybody, isreal or not. To say the truth sin is very deadly, repent by accepting christ Jesus |
Re: Holy Amnesia - A Solution To Islamic Relgious Violence. by TheOP1(m): 5:46pm On Oct 03, 2012 |
The idea behind my post is this :- Judaism and christianity have both had their "Very Bloody Past" and have now settled for "Religious moderation". Islam is however still in it's bloody era , with time they will also embrace religious moderation and turn a blind eye to it's violent past and injuctions (like the present jews and christians). This I call "Holy Amnesia". For example - The jews ,who do not believe in the less violent new testament do not practice the blasphemy laws as espoused in old testement, this injuction hasnt change since they do not believe in the more recent Gospel of christ, but they will be quick to point accusing finger at the muslims blasphemy law calling their Allah blood thirsty (Turning a blind eye to the similar blasphemy law in the torah ) which they no more practice. |
Re: Holy Amnesia - A Solution To Islamic Relgious Violence. by TheOP1(m): 5:59pm On Oct 03, 2012 |
Another example of "Religious Evolution" is when the christians make statement as " Our God is a consuming fire he can fight for himself" , "God doesnt need humans to fight his battles" e.t.c Ask the people ( Amalekite women, children and cattle) who were killed on the order of Jehovah whether their killers were humans or angels? God fights his battle my foot. When david killed goliath, why didnt he just sit down and do nothing; waiting for the hosts of heaven to do the killing. |
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