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Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Nobody: 9:23pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
The OP: Nuclear weapons are so easy to make thatThat's a good observation. But, the intention of Iran has never been for a peaceful purpose - the government of that nation has repeatedly threatened to annihilate all rather wipe Israel out of the surface of the earth. Notwithstanding, I doubt if Iran can do that without being turned into a total grotesque on the earth surface immediately. Indeed, one of the things I am actually most concerned about is their secrecy about their Nuclear projects. In other words if they aren't really planning to make Nuclear bomb why are they hiding things from IAEA inspectors? That's the bone of contention! They laid claim to peaceful purposes on the other way prevented the Nuclear watchdog from inspecting the purposes of their projects. It is sad though people don't know the reason why Iran is being continually prevented not to possess Nuclear weapons, for the simple reason it would be a beginning proliferation all over the world. And, we all know what that means to the security of the world will live in. Most especially, when we think of terrorism and how unimaginable such weapons can be most deadly in their hands. It may seem like the Americans are nosing around for troubles but in the case of Iran, the country needs to be put under control. I don't know why people just conclude that it is right for Iran to possess Nuclear bomb while referring to Israel and US. I am not against using it to generate electricity but Iran plan is beyond that. Which might prompt other nations in the region to follow suit, like UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar,etc. UAE made it clear it might pursue Nuclear facility for defense purpose after seeing the threat Iran will pose in the near future to that region if allowed to have NWH(nuclear warheads). Mind you this Iran case can spill into Africa. Not to dissuade you from your hard-held opinions we have seen how that nation is pedaling weapons around Africa, from Sudan to Nigeria . Not only that, also in the Middle East just to destabilize those nations for influence purposes. If you think US is the only nation to blame in this escapades of influence you just missed the point and you are looking at the whole matter from a single point of view. |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Horus(m): 9:55pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
Lagos_Boi: I agree 100% with you, many ignorants on this forum are worshiping the United States and the Israelis; thinking that they are a kind of "superior race". They are easily brainwashed by FOX News, CNN or any other propaganda tools. |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Osiris211: 10:51pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
The bold is FALSE! infact, most of what you wrote here are downside of smoking buckets of pure propaganda. The Iranian regime said they will end Zionism or Zionist regime from face of earth and NOT isreal. Last time I checked many Israelis loath Zionism. For you to even have believed any country can wipe out Israel from face of the earth speak volume of your logic. Do you know how many Jews are presently living in Iran? I bet you don't! Why should Iran that you claimed to have threatened to wipe out isreal from the face of the earth be living with millions of them? irony! CNN and other Zionist sponsored media organizations are the ones that put a spin and cooked up lies changing Zionist to isreal in the original report. Like I said earlier, the war mongers must oiled their war machine and maintain their defence contracts. Iran is their next stopover. Iran is going down, just the way they lied about Iraq possessing WMD's. all4naija: That's a good observation. But, the intention of Iran has never been for a peaceful purpose[b] - the government of that nation has repeatedly threatened to annihilate all rather wipe Israel out of the surface of the earth.[/b] Notwithstanding, I doubt if Iran can do that without being turned into a total grotesque on the earth surface immediately. Indeed, one of the things I am actually most concerned about is their secrecy about their Nuclear projects. In other words if they aren't really planning to make Nuclear bomb why are they hiding things from IAEA inspectors? That's the bone of contention! They laid claim to peaceful purposes on the other way prevented the Nuclear watchdog from inspecting the purposes of their projects. It is sad though people don't know the reason why Iran is being continually prevented not to possess Nuclear weapons, for the simple reason it would be a beginning proliferation all over the world. And, we all know what that means to the security of the world will live in. Most especially, when we think of terrorism and how unimaginable such weapons can be most deadly in their hands. 1 Like |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Nobody: 10:59pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
Osiris.211:Sorry to burst your bubble on that one! This is a video posted by Iranian on what the Iranian government threatened to do to Israel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2lB50-kbNU You are a good propagandist! |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by TheOP1(m): 6:08am On Nov 11, 2012 |
@all4naija, what makes u think that Israel will not use their nukes sometimes in the future. The only just thing to do is declare and enforce a nuclear free zone. Imagine ur pastor bringing a whor.e to church on one sunday morning , steps to the pulpit preaching againt fornication whilst bleeping the hell out the wh.ore. Thats exactly what israel is doing. why attack another nation cos of (Suspicion) of making nuclear weapons while u have illegal un-declared stock piles of nukes. Iran only intends building civilian nuclear capacity, presently they are yrs behind nuclear weapons capacity, with no evidence of a weaponization program. 1 Like |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Nobody: 6:32am On Nov 11, 2012 |
The OP: @all4naija, what makes u think that Israel will not use their nukes sometimes in the future. The only just thing to do is declare and enforce a nuclear free zone.How many times have I repeated myself here concerning Iran terrorists sponsor? The fact that the country also supply arms for Jihadist fight,etc make it much different from Israel! |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Osiris211: 6:59am On Nov 11, 2012 |
Stop smoking propaganda joor. I tried watching your video thinking there is something new, but still same all story and lies to justify attack on Iran in a similar manner we were bombarded with lies on how Saddam possessed WMDs and threatened to use it on harmless civilians. So, tell me what is wrong with this statement, "Iran threaten to wipe out Israel IF attacked"? You are too quick not to wear your thinking cap before posting that video. This statement is akin to saying Nigeria will wipe out Ghana IF attacked in 11 days, meaning there won't be any wiping out if Israel did not threaten to attack Iran. Why don't you tell Netanyahu to stop threatening to attack Iran? I guess you are very myopic not to see the aggressor here. As expected you war mongers are doing everything possible to oil your war machines with innocent blood. Iranian Generals justify their preparedness to DEFEND Iran! so what is sucking wrong with the above? Secondly, only a naive person will believe Iran can face isreal in a conventional or unconventional war when in actual sense 200 Israeli nukes are pointing towards Tehran, ready to send her back to stone age on mouse click! Dude, stop buying these cheap propaganda and victim cards sold by IDF. Read more on iron dome, one of the best air defence anti missile defence system deployed by isreal. The truth of the matter here is, Israel want to maintain her military superiority in the middle east and sees a nuclear armed Iran as a threats to that and NOTHING more. all4naija: Sorry to burst your bubble on that one! This is a video posted by Iranian on what the Iranian government threatened to do to Israel. 1 Like
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Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Osiris211: 7:19am On Nov 11, 2012 |
@all4naija. Read more. . .. .
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/did-ahmadinejad-really-say-israel-should-be-wiped-off-the-map/2011/10/04/gIQABJIKML_blog.html 2 Likes |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Horus(m): 1:11pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
@Osiris.211 You are right 100%, and you have great analytical skills to see through the lies of this little war monger (all4naija). The video posted by this liar is clearly talking about self-defence, and the Persians have all the rights to defend themselves if they are one day under a military attack coming from Israel or any other country. This little war monger on the forum is misinformed and ignorant; He go by emotions and fanaticism instead of looking accurately at the whole situation in a broader perspective. |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Nobody: 2:18pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
@Osiri.211 You are the propagandist here. You are done yet don't read the detail. You are here to support the fact that self-defense means to wipe out a nation from the surface of the earth and it is never a threat. Now, this is what was written on Islamic Republic Of Iran Broadcasting regarding this controversy and it points to the fact what Iran intention was. Whether Iran can wipe Israel out of the surface of the earth or not is not the argument. But was that statement made at all? Yes, I agree with you Iran can't wipe Israel out of the map but can do great harms. So, such threat should not be taken with grain of salt as the nation is trying to acquire Nuclear weapons. Please, read before you start acting as all-knowing here with your cronies who are bent on seeing things from one side: [b] "Wiped off the map" controversy On 26 October 2005, IRIB News, an English-language subsidiary of the state-controlled Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB), filed a story on Ahmadinejad's speech to the "World Without Zionism" conference in Tehran, entitled: Ahmadinejad: Israel must be wiped off the map . The story was picked up by Western news agencies and quickly made headlines around the world. On 30 October, The New York Times published a full transcript of the speech in which Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying: Our dear Imam (referring to Ayatollah Khomeini) said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world. Ahmadinejad said that the issue with Palestine would be over "the day that all refugees return to their homes [and] a democratic government elected by the people comes to power", and denounced attempts to normalise relations with Israel, condemning all Muslim leaders who accept the existence of Israel as "acknowledging a surrender and defeat of the Islamic world." The speech indicated that he considered Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip to be a trick, designed to gain acknowledgment from Islamic states. In a rally held two days later, Ahmadinejad declared that his words reflected the views of the Iranian people, adding that Western world was free to comment, but its reactions were invalid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#.22Wiped_off_the_map.22_controversy[/b]. As you are all-knowing individual, please, explain to me what the quote above is all about. |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Nobody: 2:35pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
@Osiri.211 It is obvious most of you will also say Iran is not building Nuclear facilities from the way most of you are commenting on the topic. Yes! With a resounding and Affirmative YES Iran must not be allowed to acquire Nuclear weapons. |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Osiris211: 3:52pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
Dude, I thought by now you would tune down your trigger-happy imaginations. First, I gave you a fairly comparative analysis of what was over blown by Zionist sponsored media houses into wiping out isreal for the sole aim of playing the victim cards and you still don't get the drift? okay, for a start Google about Zionism and their racist agenda. I can't say more than this. all4naija: @Osiri.211 1 Like |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Nobody: 3:57pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
Osiris.211:Please, leave Zionism out of this first and let's address this topic from the quote and link I provided on the 'Wipe Israel Out of the Map' published by the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting. After that we can consider talking about Zionism and racism, which I think the Islamism is guilty of as well. |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by TheOP1(m): 4:13pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
The statement " wipe israel....." was taken out of context or misinterpreted. That has been explained some where above. 1 Like |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Osiris211: 4:23pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
Personally, I think Iran is going to have nuclear weapon and there is nothing anybody can do about it. Attacking Iran will not and can NEVER deter her from pursing that agenda. infact, it will end up speeding the process. North Korea can testify to that. Beside, who told you that building a nuclear reactor or centrifuges is the only means of acquiring dirty bombs? There are arguably hundreds of dirty bombs in black market for the highest bidder. Hundreds of medium sized Russian nukes and weapon grade polonium got missing after the collapse of Soviet union while on transit to Moscow from her defunct territories . Secondly, Why do you think it's right for isreal to have nukes and wrong for Iran? Funny how you guys don't even realise that Pakistan is the threat and not Iran. it's just matter of time before Taliban or al-Qaeda get access to Pakistani nuclear arsenal. They are inching on that If you are anywhere sincere and not using double standard or biased, you should advocate for purging the world of weapon of mass destruction and not cherry picking who should have it and who shouldn't. Thirdly, please stop painting isreal like they are the underdogs when in reality they are ten times stronger than Iran and all middle eastern countries combined. Finally, we can agree to disagree. all4naija: @Osiri.211 1 Like |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Nobody: 10:01pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
Osiris.211:The funny thing is that you are picky in replying to my comments! The very truth why I have not agree with you in this matter has been simple as that. It also funny to see most people agreeing with you on your attempt to paint the picture in the favor of Iran. Israel is not a threat to world security to some extent. It doesn't threaten its neighbors with weapons of mass destruction. And, for all we know Israel is more a flexible country when compare to Iran. Please, to say I am biased because that is the usual preoccupation of most myopic individuals in this forum is telling of your stance to make me look as the bad person. Nevertheless, as you have failed to answer the question I put forward to you and also failed to see in my previous comments on the reason why I think Iran shouldn't be allow to possess Nuclear weapon prove you haven't be reading my comments with open-mindedness.If you can go back to some of my previous comments you will see the reasons I stated there clearly and concise. In the pursue of Nuclear weapons Iran is not so much different from North Korea, a rogue state for that matter. And, the fact that North Korea even seems determined to acquire the bomb before Iran only to be deterred by continuous sanctions which crippled most parts of it economy and the distancing of the international body that made it felt isolated to have the helps in forestalling the Nuclear weapon project is unequivocally correct and arguably what Iran is trying to imitate. Indeed, it even seems to me North Korea is stronger and more determined in the quest than the Iran you are over-emphasizing to be possessing the weapon in the face of an international disagreement with the plan. Iran might not be able to possess the weapon if more sanctions and co-operation of the United Nation security council are ready to take effect in preventing the country from having it. The only thing I am skeptical about in all of these is Russia(the brain behind this dangerous weapon proliferation). Not until Russia come to term with the West,I agree with you, there is no way the Iranian will not acquire Nuclear weapon at all cost at the end, to the monetary benefit of the Russian oligarchy who are bent on destabilizing the world security whenever they can. Russia has lost my respect long time ago though! My demand is clear, that is, to prevent the world from being polarized in the direction of Nuclear weapon armament. Those nations which already possessed it should come to the dialogue table and find a way of doing away with the larger chunk of it - like the US/Russia Nuclear weapons reduction treaty - for this to have effect, it must be followed with actions. So, I am on the need to do away with weapons of mass destruction from all countries of the world, not this your very notion to make me looks as if I am biased for the interest of few possessing it for whatsoever reason. The truth is that it is better in the hands of some than others. Needless do I mean it is right for Israel to have it but with the situation and location of that nation, it serves as deterrent in almost all capacity to some of its fierce neighbors. You are very good in putting words into my's mouth and that is what you did by saying I should 'stop making Israel looks as the underdog here', which, I never did nor any of my statement ever looked anything close to that. |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Nobody: 10:04pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
The OP: The statement " wipe israel....." was taken out of context or misinterpreted.Misinterpreted by the very Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting(IRIB)?! Now, I know you are being sentimental on this issue. |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Osiris211: 7:32am On Nov 12, 2012 |
I will reply you in bits, dunno why typing is becoming a burden on my mobile phone. Even though, it has I gig ram and quad core processors. all4naija: The funny thing is that you are picky in replying to my comments! The very truth why I have not agree with you in this matter has been simple as that. It also funny to see most people agreeing with you on your attempt to paint the picture in the favor of Iran. Israel is not a threat to world security to some extent. It doesn't threaten its neighbors with weapons of mass destruction. And, for all we know Israel is more a flexible country when compare to Iran. Please, to say I am biased because that is the usual preoccupation of most myopic individuals in this forum is telling of your stance to make me look as the bad person. |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by Osiris211: 8:16am On Nov 12, 2012 |
Now lemme start all over again by making myself clear . Iran can be a "threat" to Arabs and not isreal for real. isreal possessed the capability of bringing down any unfriendly metal bird encroaching her air space with a shocking precision, no thanks to her advanced air defence system. I make bold here to tell you that 95% of the reasons of possessing a nuclear weapon is for deterrent and don't ask me why The sole reason for this brouhaha is that, the western world is afraid of a militarized Iran, in that they will no longer have the final say in that region which boils down to CONTROL. so, this battle and many others is an extension of cold war which is being fought between Russia and US or NATO for domination . It has nothing do with the survival of isreal, cos isreal is more than capable of handling ANY aggression. Finito 1 Like |
Re: Iranian Jets Fire On US Drone by cabobongi(m): 11:09am On Jan 06, 2015 |
mejai:IRAN NOT RUSSIA |
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