yorubaamerican: Today I heard someone say that being Nigerian is biological. WRONG! Nigeria was created by European colonial masters. Your ancestors (great, great, great, yeah, all of them) didn't identify themselves as Nigerians. Being Nigerian has nothing to do with DNA, sorry. It's an identity that was given to you by your masters. Deal with it!

PAGAN 9JA:
we never identify as Nigerian by blood.

we always identify by Ethnicity. .

yorubaamerican: Today I heard someone say that being Nigerian is biological. WRONG! Nigeria was created by European colonial masters. Your ancestors (great, great, great, yeah, all of them) didn't identify themselves as Nigerians. Being Nigerian has nothing to do with DNA, sorry. It's an identity that was given to you by your masters. Deal with it!

ifyalways: was this ever an argument?
Where are you from?

toshmann: And you forget that America is also a geographical location. Not an ethnic group, hence not in the DNA. Infact many of the eastern states were created and named by the British. Maryland, Georgia, Carolina (north and south) Virginia etc were all named after British Monarchs. And people still proudly identify as Virginians. It's a matter of opinion. Many British cities were named after Roman military camps. That's life. It's not a fight. The name can be changed if they want to. Ghana changed their name, bukina faso did, Côte d'Ivoire etc. we have bigger problems than name change anyways.

I don't care what people call me, what matters is what I answer to

ifyalways: I don't think I understand what the rant is all about but hey, if you say you are a victim, so be it.

ifyalways: I don't think I understand what the rant is all about but hey, if you say you are a victim, so be it.

toshmann: And you forget that America is also a geographical location. Not an ethnic group, hence not in the DNA. Infact many of the eastern states were created and named by the British. Maryland, Georgia, Carolina (north and south) Virginia etc were all named after British Monarchs. And people still proudly identify as Virginians. It's a matter of opinion. Many British cities were named after Roman military camps. That's life. It's not a fight. The name can be changed if they want to. Ghana changed their name, bukina faso did, Côte d'Ivoire etc. we have bigger problems than name change anyways.

I don't care what people call me, what matters is what I answer to

yorubaamerican:

And it's not a rant! I posted this because I know a number of people who somehow think that black people who don't live in Africa are different from them. "Nigerians" are good at this. The truth is we're one.

PAGAN 9JA:



ofcourse we are different. We are full-blooded tribals not racists! just because you are mixed, dont drag us into your akata genopool.

stop trying to club us all together based on skin-colour. we lead different lives, culture, religion, politics, etc.

In all this , we are much more closer to the average tribal from say, Malaysia, or South America, then we are to you akatas.

https://www.nairaland.com/1106980/africans-not-blacks-tribals

yorubaamerican:

Here we go! I see a lot of hatred in your comment, brother. OK, I'll give you the fact that my African ancestors who were taken to America were sexually abused and there is a European infusion on that side of my family. Fine. But our being one ISN'T based solely on skin color. It's based on us coming from the same place. What separates us is people who don't understand our similarities! So, because people who refer to themselves as African-Americans were enslaved and stripped of their culture, they're different from you? NO. The ties are still there. Black folks have had bits and pieces of African culture passed down to them over the years. It can be seen in the food, the family values (I know you may doubt this), our music (you'll doubt this too, right), and so on and so forth - it's there. We don't lead "different lives, culture, religion, politics, etc." Turn off the television. The problem is that younger brothers and sisters (black people in America) are caught up in what they've been told they should be. Their identity isn't what's on the tube, but many believe it is, and they play into it. Surprisingly enough, I'm starting to see the same trend in Nigeria! You must be around the wrong "akatas". All my family members want to know more about Africa and envy me for knowing half of my African heritage - even if a great deal of it has been exacerbated by the realities of colonization.

yorubaamerican:

Here we go! I see a lot of hatred in your comment, brother. OK, I'll give you the fact that my African ancestors who were taken to America were sexually abused and there is a European infusion on that side of my family. Fine. But our being one ISN'T based solely on skin color. It's based on us coming from the same place. What separates us is people who don't understand our similarities! So, because people who refer to themselves as African-Americans were enslaved and stripped of their culture, they're different from you? NO. The ties are still there. Black folks have had bits and pieces of African culture passed down to them over the years. It can be seen in the food, the family values (I know you may doubt this), our music (you'll doubt this too, right), and so on and so forth - it's there. We don't lead "different lives, culture, religion, politics, etc." Turn off the television. The problem is that younger brothers and sisters (black people in America) are caught up in what they've been told they should be. Their identity isn't what's on the tube, but many believe it is, and they play into it. Surprisingly enough, I'm starting to see the same trend in Nigeria! You must be around the wrong "akatas". All my family members want to know more about Africa and envy me for knowing half of my African heritage - even if a great deal of it has been exacerbated by the realities of colonization.

PAGAN 9JA:



cmon let us get realistic and not sentimental. if you want, i could start a tirade of good beautfiul things, but then i will do you as well as myself injustice in that i will be lying. it is not just about admixtures from europeans/natives, etc., it is about the heavy admixture within.


This is what you outsiders never understand about us Africans. you club us all together for the sole reason of our skin colour and in that we are from the same continent. this is ignorance at its peak. you cant say that a Hausa like me has any similarity WHATSOEVER, to a ZULU /SHona/Ndeble person from South Africa. apart from the fact that we share similar skin colour at times and we are tribal.

you african americans have lost all your tribes. the intermixture has been so heavy that you have lost all your origin culture ,etc. the traces you speak about is very minute and is not even aplicable. for example, imagine an AA who has more East African blood and he is following new-age Vodun. this is not even part of his ancestors beliefs or culture. you cant just club it as African. EAst Africans have nothing to do with Vodun. so you see>? the fellow is still practicing a foreign culture.

yes i do doubt the family values bit, food is largely changed (the soul food is actually mostly based on leftovers from whites that slaves used), music is way different. your music is generally vulgar and obscene and rap music has nothigng to do with the music of my Hausa people or any other people.

the point is that we have separated to a point of no return. We Africans cannot afford to let what happened in europe or the americas where the tribes , culture ,,etc got destroyed and extinct due to assimilation,etc. all our wealth etc, has been stolen from us. TOday, our Tribe, our integrity and our CUlture is what we most have left with us and we cannot compromise these just to forge some fake unity with no basis whatsoever.

many AAs are not even aware what is going on here in Africa or about our people ,etc. i saw this youtube video for example, which portrayed exactly the level of ignorance there.
You must understand that our individual cultures, religions, lifestyles, etc., surviv on the existence of our tribes.

We are tribals. and that is what matters. think from a birds eye point of view and not from a selfish view. then reflect.

yorubaamerican:

I'm ignorant for confirming our connection with one another? My hope for you is that you meet the right people and stop it with the generalizations. As for the food comment, do you know what gumbo is and how it orignated? That's just one example. Greens and okara and how people of color cook are another. You've been misled and misguided on the African-American experience. African culture has been passed down over the years. My 90-year-old grandmother is an example. I explained the problem of recent generations above, did you read it well? You don't have any connection with African-Americans because you don't want to have any connection. The tribes are in tact, all one has to do is a little research on their ancestors history before they were sold into slavery, it's not hard. African-Americans haven't lost anything. You haven't been fortunate to meet thinking people of color in America, brother, I hope you have that experience one day. Explain the "heavy admixture within"? By the way, much of African culture has been bastardized by Europeans (don't act like African cultures are so pure, we as Africans had our own religions, and that's just one example). ...The only thing that seperates people of color is us. It's sad. You're a true reflecton of that. As far as the family values go, I was taught the same respect that Nigerians teach their children. And I was taught by the same people who you say are lost! Who have you been around?

yorubaamerican:

What do you answer to?

toshmann:
it's a matter of self-system. i'll answer to any nomenclature that reflects my established self-efficacy

just in case you dont know what self-efficacy means, here's a hint http://psychology.about.com/od/theoriesofpersonality/a/self_efficacy.htm

i have a very high self esteem

Mrs.Chima:
I guess pagandummy couldn't retort cos he is looking for a comeback! Easy like butter!