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The Culture Lounge by odumchi: 3:59am On Dec 05, 2012
This thread is for that time that you have a question but don't know who to ask; that time you have something you'd like to discuss but not sure with who; that time you just want to discuss anything and everything cultural with everyone.

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Re: The Culture Lounge by odumchi: 4:04am On Dec 05, 2012
I have a question regarding Igbo music.

What I've noticed is that in the Highlife era (60s to 80s) Anambra and Delta were the "hotbeds" of music in Igboland. However, nowadays, it seems to have shifted to Imo (Bongo).

Who thinks so/has anything to say? And also, are Anambra/Delta/Enugu people fond of Imo music?
 
Re: The Culture Lounge by morpheus24: 4:34pm On Dec 05, 2012
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Re: The Culture Lounge by Dede1(m): 3:55pm On Dec 06, 2012
odumchi: I have a question regarding Igbo music.

What I've noticed is that in the Highlife era (60s to 80s) Anambra and Delta were the "hotbeds" of music in Igboland. However, nowadays, it seems to have shifted to Imo (Bongo).

Who thinks so/has anything to say? And also, are Anambra/Delta/Enugu people fond of Imo music?


The above post is a typical example of misinformation and opinion stated out of ignorance. Nothing could be farther from truth than the quote from the above post such as “What I've noticed is that in the Highlife era (60s to 80s) Anambra and Delta were the "hotbeds" of music in Igboland”.

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Re: The Culture Lounge by odumchi: 5:00am On Dec 07, 2012
Dede1:


The above post is a typical example of misinformation and opinion stated out of ignorance. Nothing could be farther from truth than the quote from the above post such as “What I've noticed is that in the Highlife era (60s to 80s) Anambra and Delta were the "hotbeds" of music in Igboland”.

What's wrong in what I said?

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Re: The Culture Lounge by ifyalways(f): 11:35am On Dec 08, 2012
odumchi:

What's wrong in what I said?
a better question would have been, what does he think is "truth" ?

I think the deaths of the music icons in anambra axis and unwillingness of the youth to take up the mantle is one of the reasons. Highlife still thrive in Delta state oh. Imo have always been a force to reckon with when it comes to highlife but its safe to say that the anambra type of highlife was much more commercialised and accepted(can't think of the right word now) than Imo's.

Ok, Anambra highlife was first to the musician, a business, all about ego first as opposed to their Imo counterparts who sees it first as a sidekick recreational fun stuff.

Nna biko, o mu kowa n'Igbo? cheesy bekee bu agbara.
Re: The Culture Lounge by odumchi: 8:00pm On Dec 09, 2012
ifyalways: a better question would have been, what does he think is "truth" ?

I think the deaths of the music icons in anambra axis and unwillingness of the youth to take up the mantle is one of the reasons. Highlife still thrive in Delta state oh. Imo have always been a force to reckon with when it comes to highlife but its safe to say that the anambra type of highlife was much more commercialised and accepted(can't think of the right word now) than Imo's.

Ok, Anambra highlife was first to the musician, a business, all about ego first as opposed to their Imo counterparts who sees it first as a sidekick recreational fun stuff.

Nna biko, o mu kowa n'Igbo? cheesy bekee bu agbara.

That's very interesting. Why I say this is because, in those days, Anambra and Delta highlife was very very popular but nowadays it seems as if Imo music has taken over.

I agree with you about the difference in mentality. Anambra and Delta guys seem to take it more seriously than Imo guys.

What I don't understand is the reason for the decline in Anambra. The only Anambra guy that I know that's really trying is Chijioke Mbanefo (Osadebe jr.), whereas Imo guys like Dr Sir Foreigner, Bongo Champion, Saro Wiwa, and Atinga Woma are growing in popularity. The premier music company in Anambra, Amaco Music, seems to be competing with Imo's Mega Beats Studios.
Re: The Culture Lounge by ezeagu(m): 10:25pm On Dec 11, 2012
What month is new year in your peoples calendar?
Re: The Culture Lounge by odumchi: 1:32am On Dec 17, 2012
ezeagu: What month is new year in your peoples calendar?

I don't know; I'll have to ask.
Re: The Culture Lounge by odumchi: 2:18am On Dec 19, 2012
I asked a relative and he explained to me as follows:

Aro (Arochukwu) traditionally marks the beginning of a new year in the month of September, after the Oriri Ji Ovuru (eating of the new yam). Following this, the Ichu Avo festival commences and the old year is "chased away" with festivity and merriment accompanied with shouts like: "avo gbara aka laa" (the year should go peacefully). The Nwaekpe masquerade then ends Ikeji (New Yam Festival) and ushers in the new year/planting season.
Re: The Culture Lounge by ezeagu(m): 2:19pm On Dec 21, 2012
Thanks. Do you know the Aro name for the Cross River?
Re: The Culture Lounge by odumchi: 6:10am On Dec 23, 2012
As far as I know, we really don't have a name for it. We just call it: Anyim Calabar (Calabar River). However, some call it by its Ibibio name: Akwa Inyang Ibom (The Great River).
Re: The Culture Lounge by Dede1(m): 10:38pm On Dec 25, 2012
odumchi:

What's wrong in what I said?

I shall be all eyes when you list the highlife artists of (60s to 80s) which granted Anambra and Delta the title of “hotbeds" of music in Igboland.
Re: The Culture Lounge by odumchi: 11:56pm On Dec 25, 2012
Dede1:

I shall be all eyes when you list the highlife artists of (60s to 80s) which granted Anambra and Delta the title of “hotbeds" of music in Igboland.

Here are a few:

Ali Chukwuma (Delta)
Osita Osadebe (Anambra)
Eddie Okwedy (Delta)
Morroco Maduka (Anambra)
Paulson Kalu (Anambra)
Oliver De Coque (Anambra)
Victor Uwaifo (Delta)
Celestine Ukwu (Delta)

Nwanna, tam mu echefuo, nwezie kwa krismasi nke oma.
Re: The Culture Lounge by Dede1(m): 3:34pm On Dec 26, 2012
odumchi:

Here are a few:

Ali Chukwuma (Delta)
Osita Osadebe (Anambra)
Eddie Okwedy (Delta)
Morroco Maduka (Anambra)
Paulson Kalu (Anambra)
Oliver De Coque (Anambra)
Victor Uwaifo (Delta)
Celestine Ukwu (Delta)

Nwanna, tam mu echefuo, nwezie kwa krismasi nke oma.



Nwannem, when I said you wrote out of ignorance in your previous post, it shows with the above post.

Let me try to correct few of your list below:

Ali Chukwuma (Delta) 80s (Aprenticed Under Osita Osadebe)
Osita Osadebe (Anambra) 60s Anambra State
Eddie Okwedy (Delta) Unknown material
Morroco Maduka (Anambra) Unknown material
Paulson Kalu (Anambra) 60s Abia State
Oliver De Coque (Anambra) 70s Anambra State
Victor Uwaifo (Delta) 60s Edo State
Celestine Ukwu (Delta) 60s Enugu State

Let me also provide few list below.

Israel Nwoba Njamanze 40s Imo State
Harbert Udemba 50s Imo State
Stephen Amechi 50s Imo State (Osita Osadebe Apprenticed under him)
Celestine Obiako 60s Imo State
Joe Nez 60s Imo State
Ralp Amarebem 60s, 70s, 80s Imo State
Johnny Ikediala 70s Imo State
Douglas Chukueke Ederi 70s Imo State
Robert Osuji 60s, 70s Imo State
Danny Orji 70s, 80s Imo State
Albert Onwumere 70s Imo State
Godwin Kabaka Opara 70s, 80s Imo State
Christogenious Warrior Obinna 70s, 80s Imo State
Ferdinand Dansatch Opara 70s 80s Imo State


Mike Ejeagha 60s Enugu State (Celestine Ukwu Apprenticed under him)
Cardinal Rex Lawson 60s Rivers State
Re: The Culture Lounge by odumchi: 5:49pm On Dec 26, 2012
I believe Celestine Ukwu is from Ndokwa in Delta State and not Enugu; he said so in his song "Uso Ndu"; Victor Uwaifo is Ika (which is also in Delta); Morocco Maduka is from Awka; and Eddie Okwedy is from somewhere in Aniocha or Oshimili (Delta).

I know that there were also musicians from Imo, Rivers, Abia, and Enugu in this time period but what I believe is that (aside from Mike Ejeagha, the Oriental brothers, the Peacocks, and a few others), most of the prominent musicians were Anambra/Delta based.

Nowadays it obviously isn't so.
Re: The Culture Lounge by Dede1(m): 6:26pm On Dec 26, 2012
odumchi: I believe Celestine Ukwu is from Ndokwa in Delta State and not Enugu; he said so in his song "Uso Ndu"; Victor Uwaifo is Ika (which is also in Delta); Morocco Maduka is from Awka; and Eddie Okwedy is from somewhere in Aniocha or Oshimili (Delta).

I know that there were also musicians from Imo, Rivers, Abia, and Enugu in this time period but what I believe is that (aside from Mike Ejeagha, the Oriental brothers, the Peacocks, and a few others), most of the prominent musicians were Anambra/Delta based.

Nowadays it obviously isn't so.


To the best of my knowledge, Celestine Ukwu hailed from Abor in Enugu state not the Aboh of Ndokwa, Delta State. Abor in Enugu state is part of the Ojebe Ogene clan of Igbo land made up of over 13 towns like Okpatu, Ebe, Ukana, Ukeghe, Umulumgbe, etc to mention a few.

Victor Uwaifo is a Benin indigene.

I guess one can not talk about “hotbeds of highlife music” when musicians mentioned were apprentices to the likes of Mike Ejeagha and Stephen Amechi.

I do not know more prominent figures in highlife music in Igbo land than the stars that led bands such as Three Night Wizards, African Rhythm Messengers, African Baby Party, Eastern Brothers, Eastern Minstrel Band, Peacock International Band, Abaraka Dance Band, Skylarks International Band, Oriental Brothers and Entertainment Group
Re: The Culture Lounge by odumchi: 7:47pm On Dec 27, 2012
Dede1:


To the best of my knowledge, Celestine Ukwu hailed from Abor in Enugu state not the Aboh of Ndokwa, Delta State. Abor in Enugu state is part of the Ojebe Ogene clan of Igbo land made up of over 13 towns like Okpatu, Ebe, Ukana, Ukeghe, Umulumgbe, etc to mention a few.

Victor Uwaifo is a Benin indigene.

I guess one can not talk about “hotbeds of highlife music” when musicians mentioned were apprentices to the likes of Mike Ejeagha and Stephen Amechi.

I do not know more prominent figures in highlife music in Igbo land than the stars that led bands such as Three Night Wizards, African Rhythm Messengers, African Baby Party, Eastern Brothers, Eastern Minstrel Band, Peacock International Band, Abaraka Dance Band, Skylarks International Band, Oriental Brothers and Entertainment Group


In his song "Uso Ndu", Celestine Ukwu said: "Ka anyi welunu ofu obi bili na udo na Ndokwa"; that's why I am saying that he is from Delta.

Thanks for the correction on Victor Uwaifo, I meant to say a different Victor who is from Delta. To me, it seems as if it just boils down to a matter of personal opinion. In my opinion: it's Anambra and Delta, while in yours it's apparently Imo.
Re: The Culture Lounge by Dede1(m): 9:34pm On Dec 27, 2012
odumchi:


In his song "Uso Ndu", Celestine Ukwu said: "Ka anyi welunu ofu obi bili na udo na Ndokwa"; that's why I am saying that he is from Delta.

Thanks for the correction on Victor Uwaifo, I meant to say a different Victor who is from Delta. To me, it seems as if it just boils down to a matter of personal opinion. In my opinion: it's Anambra and Delta, while in yours it's apparently Imo.


I do not think it is prudent for student of music to base issue of fact simply on lyrics. Musicians are known to sing songs composed by a member of their bands. In the case of Celestine Ukwu with alleged song “Uso Ndu”-“Ka anyi welunu ofu obi bili na udo na Ndokwa”, I deduce it is connected with Emma Ikediashi who happened to be Celestine Ukwu’s lead guitarist.

Internet is one of the greatest inventions of mankind but it has unimaginable flaws.
Re: The Culture Lounge by pazienza(m): 9:43am On Dec 30, 2012
Interesting thread,i'm learning a lot here.
Re: The Culture Lounge by odumchi: 9:53am On Dec 30, 2012
Dede1:


I do not think it is prudent for student of music to base issue of fact simply on lyrics. Musicians are known to sing songs composed by a member of their bands. In the case of Celestine Ukwu with alleged song “Uso Ndu”-“Ka anyi welunu ofu obi bili na udo na Ndokwa”, I deduce it is connected with Emma Ikediashi who happened to be Celestine Ukwu’s lead guitarist.

Internet is one of the greatest inventions of mankind but it has unimaginable flaws.

Although I'm still not sufficiently convinced that he hails from Enugu, I'll respect what you said. The fact still remains that Celestine Ukwu actually did say so and it equally wouldn't be fair to assume that that particular line was connected to his guitarist since there isn't any apparent evidence to suggest so. But then again, his dialect sounds akin to what you'd hear outside of Ndokwa. You might be right.
Re: The Culture Lounge by Dede1(m): 1:46pm On Dec 30, 2012
odumchi:

Although I'm still not sufficiently convinced that he hails from Enugu, I'll respect what you said. The fact still remains that Celestine Ukwu actually did say so and it equally wouldn't be fair to assume that that particular line was connected to his guitarist since there isn't any apparent evidence to suggest so. But then again, his dialect sounds akin to what you'd hear outside of Ndokwa. You might be right.


Bros, you are free to believe anything but bear in mind belief is not truth.
Re: The Culture Lounge by achi4u(m): 12:26pm On Dec 31, 2012
In my Ezza dialet,we greet this way;

"unu ndo o!"(meaning greetings to you all)
inresponse we answer;

"Ndokwa"(meanging peace be to you too)

You can now see another meaning of "Ndokwa" to that of Delta state.

Dede1 thanks for that ur educative info.
Re: The Culture Lounge by ernal1: 6:47pm On Jan 01, 2013
Can a yoruba child not from a royal home be named Adeyemi?
 
 
Re: The Culture Lounge by ernal1: 4:40am On Jan 06, 2013
Can a yoruba child not from a royal home be named Adeyemi?
Re: The Culture Lounge by remarkD(m): 9:13am On Jan 09, 2013
anyone know how i can lay my hand on a record titled "Goodbye Nigeria"? I am in love with traditional choral Igbo music, and my mom was a student of Felix (i forget his last name, the rival of Sam Ojukwu) who were tops in their day.... we have very bautiful choral music, but i am scared it is eroding with globalisatioin and americanization. I was so lucky to find out of a man named Harcourt White, and i was surprised it had been on youtube for 4 years without my knowing.... anyone that has these songs, please e-mail me some, i beg of thee, want to teach a couple to my acapella group. My heart melts when i hear Igbo trad. songs. there was this youtube video ... a documentary of the civil war, and they showed the Biafran soilders marching and getting ready to go fight, and the song they sang, the tone of their voices, the passion in their hearts, you could feel it in the song... the words will make you want to weep. it reminds me of the suffering experienced by all Igbos, life is precious, we are not blood thirsty people, but we find ourselves in this situation and ... it is heart breaking to say the loist. the lyrics of that song (i will try finding the link later) are: "bia lee ... mu na nwanne m jere oru, ... blah blah blah etc.." then a part goes ... "zogbuo ha, tigbuo ha, oh nna..." May God help us all... Amen.
odumchi: This thread is for that time that you have a question but don't know who to ask; that time you have something you'd like to discuss but not sure with who; that time you just want to discuss anything and everything cultural with everyone.

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Re: The Culture Lounge by Babyileso(f): 11:35am On Jan 09, 2013
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Re: The Culture Lounge by MrsChima1(f): 10:35pm On Feb 23, 2013
Why is Chima upset with the Ramen Noodles and hotdogs meal I made last night? angry angry
Re: The Culture Lounge by Nobody: 3:34am On Feb 24, 2013
Mrs..Chima:
Why is Chima upset with the Ramen Noodles and hotdogs meal I made last night? angry angry

grin grin
Quit forming u know u burned the fried chicken and didnt put any sugar in the koolaid. gringrin

Noodles ni. grin

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