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Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DIYTechnologies: 7:33pm On Dec 23, 2012
Hi,

This is a diagrammatic sketch of a Self-powered Electric Generator. I am not a professional in this field. I leave it to the sound engineers in the house to panel-beat this sketch with constructive inputs that will help Nigerians. I know for sure that this is doable. I have seen a couple of You tube videos to that effect. I also went to price a DC motor and the guy selling was asking if I wanted to use it for a "fueless" generator (so he could he jack the price up I guess). He claimed a couple of guys have bought from him for that purpose. My question is, if such technology is workable, why then allow many families die of generator fumes?

This is the diagram. Professionals should be introduce ideas/inputs that my layman sense may have overlooked. This could help a lot of persons.

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Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DIYTechnologies: 7:40pm On Dec 23, 2012
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Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by outrage: 2:35pm On Dec 29, 2012
Cool.. Following..
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by megasoul: 6:06am On Jan 02, 2013
I've been looking for the dc motor. Dat seems 2 be difficult 2 get, pls can u give me details on how 2 get one & price range? Tnx
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by outrage: 10:30am On Jan 02, 2013
Go to those places they sell various types of motors, used ones. You'll find various types start from there. Ask around
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by Penuelseun(m): 2:07pm On Jan 03, 2013
I really like ur idea but ur idea of charging the battery while using it simply won't work because the power u take from the battery through the electric motor is greater than the one u are returning to it via the charger, but u can use an alternator
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by Zemhen1: 4:22pm On Jan 03, 2013
Penuelseun: I really like ur idea but ur idea of charging the battery while using it simply won't work because the power u take from the battery through the electric motor is greater than the one u are returning to it via the charger, but u can use an alternator

And if am not mistaking the output of the generator motor is DC so it will still need an inverting system (inverter).......you are right so to provide more power for the DC motor more batteries are needed and connected in series
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DIYTechnologies: 10:13pm On Feb 27, 2013
If you use the alternator or electric motor from a generator that uses a kickstarter, it would have an inbuilt diode that steps down the power to exactly what the battery needs to charge. I am about to try that.

You can get the DC motors only as second-hand, usually removed from a forklift. But whatever motor u get, please check the voltage. Some are 12v while some are 24v, the trailer size batteries. Some could even be higher. But for a simple 1.5kva gen, the 12v will suffice.

Finally, this is an idea in the making. Further inputs, especially from professionals wuold be appreciated.

Thx
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 9:16am On Mar 03, 2013
It will not work, but there are many ways to make it work, u can modify your alternator for it to work, or u can use a high amps battery to power it. Maybe say 200 amps. But modifying the alternator will give more voltage which can easily recharge battery with. Modifying the alternator involves putting bar magnets inside, bar magnets which we don't have in nigeria.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by ManTiger(m): 11:42am On Mar 03, 2013
I've heard about this stuff and personally took it to a rewinder who has also done stuff related to it, he showed me 12V DC motor he used. He said it works but cannot charge itself as indicated!
He says the output energy almost equate the energy needed to charge the battery. He suggested Solar Inverter.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 12:17pm On Mar 03, 2013
It's true my man. I think they use a special circuit to recharge the battery. I kw one, quite easy, but I don't want to post it.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 12:30pm On Mar 03, 2013
There was an edo state man that made a generator that can run 24hrs powered from an ordinary car battery.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 12:48pm On Mar 03, 2013
If u use high amps battery as I said, it will only last long. Just like an inverter that can last up to 10 hours, but this one makes noise, but an inverter does'nt, so an inverter is better than it.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 12:53pm On Mar 03, 2013
But mind u, with that special circuit an inverter will last 24 hrs. Ha ha
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 1:34pm On Mar 03, 2013
I have seen a dc motor that was modified and runs cold. It was used to power an alternator and was ran for 24hrs. But for a reason, i prefer the Fuelless generator because it generates pure sine waves which is good for appliances. But the inverter on the other hand, produces mostly modified sine wave which causes certain appliances to break down if they continue to run with it
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 5:46pm On Mar 03, 2013
My people I hv remembered something. U kw, this word called patent was first started by a police man. When some people were discussing something, and one of them went and made it, and formed an enterprise that makes it and ordered every other person not to make it. The person who brought that technique when they were discussing, went to report the man, yet nothing could be done. It was the next govt that impacted that patent rights, that anybody who has an invention should come and register it before somebody else does. So I hope there is no police man here that is trying to do the same thing.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by Deliving: 6:44am On Jun 12, 2013
megasoul: I've been looking for the dc motor. Dat seems 2 be difficult 2 get, pls can u give me details on how 2 get one & price range? Tnx

I AM AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD, THIS GREAT BREAKTHROUGH THAT WAS HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC FOR OVER 100 YEAR BECAUSE OF THE GREEDY BIG POWER COMPANIES WHO WANTED YOUR MONEY HEAVILY. TESLA WITH ABOUT 300 PATENTS IN HIS ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONICS DISCOVERY.


THIS USES THE PRINCIPLE OF ELECTROMAGNETIC FEEDBACK WHICH RECHARGES THE BATTERY AND KEEPS THE DEVICE RUNNING IRRESPECTIVE OF FRICTIONAL FORCES.THIS UNLIMITED ENERGY IS TAPPED FROM UNQUANTIFIABLE ENERGY IN THE UNIVERSE. YOU CAN CALL IT COSMIC ENERGY. WE ARE ONLY TAPPING INTO IT.,
AS I AM WRITING, I JUST COMPLETED ONE FOR A CLIENT USING 12V DC MOTOR, A 220V AC ALTERNATOR, TWO 12V CAR BATTERIES IN PARALLEL. A CHARGER 18V, AND THE ELECTROMAGNETIC "FEEDBACK MECHANISM".


I HAVE THE 12V DC MOTOR FOR SALE $130 12"X8"X8: 2500RVM 3KG, 14AMP ORDER NOW EMAIL: abanastan@gmail.com or visit www.deliving.com.ng for plans and design.

ANOTHER VERSION IS THE ONE YOU USE A NEODYMIUM MAGNET AND COILS, PULSING CIRCUIT OR SWITCHING CONTROLLER. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE TECHNICAL TO BE ABLE TO ASSEMBLE IT. THE FIRST IS EASIER.

NEODYMIUM MAGNET USED IS 2"X2"X1" AND COIL OF 27 GAUGE COPPER WIRE WITH 1OOO TURNS. ALL CIRCUITS AND PARTS ARE AVAILABLE. EMAIL:abanastan@gmail.com, website: deliving.com.ng. If you are good
technically, i.e in construction and fabricating, I can train you and we partner together.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by Deliving: 6:56am On Jun 12, 2013
D Don1: It will not work, but there are many ways to make it work, u can modify your alternator for it to work, or u can use a high amps battery to power it. Maybe say 200 amps. But modifying the alternator will give more voltage which can easily recharge battery with. Modifying the alternator involves putting bar magnets inside, bar magnets which we don't have in nigeria.

I AM AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD, THIS GREAT BREAKTHROUGH THAT WAS HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC FOR OVER 100 YEAR BECAUSE OF THE GREEDY BIG POWER COMPANIES WHO WANTED YOUR MONEY HEAVILY. TESLA WITH ABOUT 300 PATENTS IN HIS ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONICS DISCOVERY.


THIS USES THE PRINCIPLE OF ELECTROMAGNETIC FEEDBACK WHICH RECHARGES THE BATTERY AND KEEPS THE DEVICE RUNNING IRRESPECTIVE OF FRICTIONAL FORCES.THIS UNLIMITED ENERGY IS TAPPED FROM UNQUANTIFIABLE ENERGY IN THE UNIVERSE. YOU CAN CALL IT COSMIC ENERGY. WE ARE ONLY TAPPING INTO IT.,
AS I AM WRITING, I JUST COMPLETED ONE FOR A CLIENT USING 12V DC MOTOR, A 220V AC ALTERNATOR, TWO 12V CAR BATTERIES IN PARALLEL. A CHARGER 18V, AND THE ELECTROMAGNETIC "FEEDBACK MECHANISM".


I HAVE THE 12V DC MOTOR FOR SALE $130 12"X8"X8: 2500RVM 3KG, 14AMP ORDER NOW EMAIL: abanastan@gmail.com or visit www.deliving.com.ng for plans and design.

ANOTHER VERSION IS THE ONE YOU USE A NEODYMIUM MAGNET AND COILS, PULSING CIRCUIT OR SWITCHING CONTROLLER. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE TECHNICAL TO BE ABLE TO ASSEMBLE IT. THE FIRST IS EASIER.

NEODYMIUM MAGNET USED IS 2"X2"X1" AND COIL OF 27 GAUGE COPPER WIRE WITH 1OOO TURNS. ALL CIRCUITS AND PARTS ARE AVAILABLE. EMAIL:abanastan@gmail.com, website: deliving.com.ng. If you are good
technically, i.e in construction and fabricating, I can train you and we partner together.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by Deliving: 6:57am On Jun 12, 2013
ManTiger: I've heard about this stuff and personally took it to a rewinder who has also done stuff related to it, he showed me 12V DC motor he used. He said it works but cannot charge itself as indicated!
He says the output energy almost equate the energy needed to charge the battery. He suggested Solar Inverter.
I AM AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD, THIS GREAT BREAKTHROUGH THAT WAS HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC FOR OVER 100 YEAR BECAUSE OF THE GREEDY BIG POWER COMPANIES WHO WANTED YOUR MONEY HEAVILY. TESLA WITH ABOUT 300 PATENTS IN HIS ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONICS DISCOVERY.


THIS USES THE PRINCIPLE OF ELECTROMAGNETIC FEEDBACK WHICH RECHARGES THE BATTERY AND KEEPS THE DEVICE RUNNING IRRESPECTIVE OF FRICTIONAL FORCES.THIS UNLIMITED ENERGY IS TAPPED FROM UNQUANTIFIABLE ENERGY IN THE UNIVERSE. YOU CAN CALL IT COSMIC ENERGY. WE ARE ONLY TAPPING INTO IT.,
AS I AM WRITING, I JUST COMPLETED ONE FOR A CLIENT USING 12V DC MOTOR, A 220V AC ALTERNATOR, TWO 12V CAR BATTERIES IN PARALLEL. A CHARGER 18V, AND THE ELECTROMAGNETIC "FEEDBACK MECHANISM".


I HAVE THE 12V DC MOTOR FOR SALE $130 12"X8"X8: 2500RVM 3KG, 14AMP ORDER NOW EMAIL: abanastan@gmail.com or visit www.deliving.com.ng for plans and design.

ANOTHER VERSION IS THE ONE YOU USE A NEODYMIUM MAGNET AND COILS, PULSING CIRCUIT OR SWITCHING CONTROLLER. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE TECHNICAL TO BE ABLE TO ASSEMBLE IT. THE FIRST IS EASIER.

NEODYMIUM MAGNET USED IS 2"X2"X1" AND COIL OF 27 GAUGE COPPER WIRE WITH 1OOO TURNS. ALL CIRCUITS AND PARTS ARE AVAILABLE. EMAIL:abanastan@gmail.com, website: deliving.com.ng. If you are good
technically, i.e in construction and fabricating, I can train you and we partner together.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by Deliving: 6:58am On Jun 12, 2013
megasoul: I've been looking for the dc motor. Dat seems 2 be difficult 2 get, pls can u give me details on how 2 get one & price range? Tnx
I AM AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD, THIS GREAT BREAKTHROUGH THAT WAS HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC FOR OVER 100 YEAR BECAUSE OF THE GREEDY BIG POWER COMPANIES WHO WANTED YOUR MONEY HEAVILY. TESLA WITH ABOUT 300 PATENTS IN HIS ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONICS DISCOVERY.


THIS USES THE PRINCIPLE OF ELECTROMAGNETIC FEEDBACK WHICH RECHARGES THE BATTERY AND KEEPS THE DEVICE RUNNING IRRESPECTIVE OF FRICTIONAL FORCES.THIS UNLIMITED ENERGY IS TAPPED FROM UNQUANTIFIABLE ENERGY IN THE UNIVERSE. YOU CAN CALL IT COSMIC ENERGY. WE ARE ONLY TAPPING INTO IT.,
AS I AM WRITING, I JUST COMPLETED ONE FOR A CLIENT USING 12V DC MOTOR, A 220V AC ALTERNATOR, TWO 12V CAR BATTERIES IN PARALLEL. A CHARGER 18V, AND THE ELECTROMAGNETIC "FEEDBACK MECHANISM".


I HAVE THE 12V DC MOTOR FOR SALE $130 12"X8"X8: 2500RVM 3KG, 14AMP ORDER NOW EMAIL: abanastan@gmail.com or visit www.deliving.com.ng for plans and design.

ANOTHER VERSION IS THE ONE YOU USE A NEODYMIUM MAGNET AND COILS, PULSING CIRCUIT OR SWITCHING CONTROLLER. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE TECHNICAL TO BE ABLE TO ASSEMBLE IT. THE FIRST IS EASIER.

NEODYMIUM MAGNET USED IS 2"X2"X1" AND COIL OF 27 GAUGE COPPER WIRE WITH 1OOO TURNS. ALL CIRCUITS AND PARTS ARE AVAILABLE. EMAIL:abanastan@gmail.com, website: deliving.com.ng. If you are good
technically, i.e in construction and fabricating, I can train you and we partner together.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by ufumes(m): 5:49pm On Jun 15, 2013
Deliving:
I AM AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD, THIS GREAT BREAKTHROUGH THAT WAS HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC FOR OVER 100 YEAR BECAUSE OF THE GREEDY BIG POWER COMPANIES WHO WANTED YOUR MONEY HEAVILY. TESLA WITH ABOUT 300 PATENTS IN HIS ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONICS DISCOVERY.


THIS USES THE PRINCIPLE OF ELECTROMAGNETIC FEEDBACK WHICH RECHARGES THE BATTERY AND KEEPS THE DEVICE RUNNING IRRESPECTIVE OF FRICTIONAL FORCES.THIS UNLIMITED ENERGY IS TAPPED FROM UNQUANTIFIABLE ENERGY IN THE UNIVERSE. YOU CAN CALL IT COSMIC ENERGY. WE ARE ONLY TAPPING INTO IT.,
AS I AM WRITING, I JUST COMPLETED ONE FOR A CLIENT USING 12V DC MOTOR, A 220V AC ALTERNATOR, TWO 12V CAR BATTERIES IN PARALLEL. A CHARGER 18V, AND THE ELECTROMAGNETIC "FEEDBACK MECHANISM".


I HAVE THE 12V DC MOTOR FOR SALE $130 12"X8"X8: 2500RVM 3KG, 14AMP ORDER NOW EMAIL: abanastan@gmail.com or visit www.deliving.com.ng for plans and design.

ANOTHER VERSION IS THE ONE YOU USE A NEODYMIUM MAGNET AND COILS, PULSING CIRCUIT OR SWITCHING CONTROLLER. BUT YOU HAVE TO BE TECHNICAL TO BE ABLE TO ASSEMBLE IT. THE FIRST IS EASIER.

NEODYMIUM MAGNET USED IS 2"X2"X1" AND COIL OF 27 GAUGE COPPER WIRE WITH 1OOO TURNS. ALL CIRCUITS AND PARTS ARE AVAILABLE. EMAIL:abanastan@gmail.com, website: deliving.com.ng. If you are good
technically, i.e in construction and fabricating, I can train you and we partner together.


we have heard your claims about being expert in this, can you please stop making noise and spamming this thread?

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Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by james1(m): 6:11am On Jun 23, 2013
this is just what we need in this country!pls on it and make it a reality.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by januarywheeler: 11:20am On Jul 02, 2013
I have built a system that works. 2 small 12volt motors one high rpm one low rpm. high rpm motor uses 4 amps at load but there is no load just spinning so 2 amps. low rpm motor kicks out the correct 12 + volts at 8 + amps depending on coupled or pulley setup. this worked properly to run an inverter on it..but load eats your excess...so don't load-run to battery. motors where like 8 bucks a piece-that is overunity-no lie-just truth-januarywheeler@yahoo.com-enough for some lights and a couple of fans-my batteries are still full-so I know it works-like I said overunity burn 2 getting 8-people that say it does not work have not learned anything- but what is told to them in school-quoting some old theory-2013 wake up! my fan is blowing/ comp charging /and tv is on/ volt meter reading good, and my battery charger is charging my truck battery.no fancy stuff-just easy......
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by Visocrate(m): 2:55am On Jul 03, 2013
i had this idea since 2002 but no enough back up to practicalize it
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 1:32pm On Jul 03, 2013
januarywheeler: I have built a system that works. 2 small 12volt motors one high rpm one low rpm. high rpm motor uses 4 amps at load but there is no load just spinning so 2 amps. low rpm motor kicks out the correct 12 + volts at 8 + amps depending on coupled or pulley setup. this worked properly to run an inverter on it..but load eats your excess...so don't load-run to battery. motors where like 8 bucks a piece-that is overunity-no lie-just truth-januarywheeler@yahoo.com-enough for some lights and a couple of fans-my batteries are still full-so I know it works-like I said overunity burn 2 getting 8-people that say it does not work have not learned anything- but what is told to them in school-quoting some old theory-2013 wake up! my fan is blowing/ comp charging /and tv is on/ volt meter reading good, and my battery charger is charging my truck battery.no fancy stuff-just easy......
How did u do it?
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by januarywheeler: 10:54pm On Jul 03, 2013
With motors coupled run low rpm as motor then use as generator- Want more power use 1 to 1 pulleys two on high rpm motor and one on each of the low rpm motors. 16 amps from 2 amps Inverter off the battery-2.5 to 1 ratio on rpm same on hp. More motor/generators more power-do not load-do the math-it works!
These are small motors-less than 1/5 hp. Cheap and efficient. Please do not spend money and time on expensive setup. Everything else I have tried does not work. Uses to much amps to produce the same or less-no overunity. Small ac motor also works- from inverter- to run dc motor/gen remember to run dc motor as motor before using as generator. 24 volt quick charge to small 12 volt motor- makes motors produce more-be careful not to burn them out. I am sharing this 4 the people who want something that works-not for money or profit-just for us!

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Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 1:51am On Jul 04, 2013
Have u done it before or u are just sharing what u might have seen somewhere. I know for sure that some generators look like dc motors but the difference is that they have powerful neodymium magnets which makes them generate more voltage and current with less turn than when it were an ordinary motor. Those are the type of alternators that will work with this type of set up, but they are scarce because they provide overunity, so this fuel people made sure they were modified before sold to the public. So the Alternator u see now uses some voltage from the magnet to power an electromagnet, so when the output comes out, it is less efficient, or let me say, u need more turns to produce a particular voltage than u will need if it were replaced by a neodymium magnet.
Nevertheless, people buy their own neodymium magnets, and make their own alternators, and power them with dc motors and get overunity just as u have said.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 3:22am On Jul 04, 2013
But I have something to add. Capitalism which is the sale of oil is a very good thing because it separates the slave from the master. If everybody begins to use free energy machines, people will tend to become equal, and everyone will share to work something a slave would have done, the society will then look communal which is not a good thing. Capitalism ensures speciality in people and encourages professionalism which a communalist society cannot. My recommendation is that, let this oil people support technologies that put back ozone into the atmosphere or the technologies that remove excessive carbon dioxide from the atmosphere so that we will not witness flashfloods. A time will come when the Cameroon dam and the Ghana dam will be open because of the excessive pressure on it.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 10:51am On Jul 04, 2013
This master and slave, some people don't understand it, it does'nt mean what some people think it is. Let me throw more light on it. When I say that u are a slave, i mean that another person has money more than you. You are a master to another person.
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by januarywheeler: 10:55pm On Jul 07, 2013
I also have a pma and it does not take lots of turns to get the correct voltage. just rewound the stator. But anyways this is not something I have seen but something I am using at present. the only master and slave thing I know about is my 3 hp 3phase motor I use as my slave to power my air conditioning. extra output from my third leg recharges battery pack. not claiming anything crazy from that one just made it more efficient. the lost I get from my inverter is a lot but I can still run my air for about 8 to 10 hrs before battery charge is to low to power the inverter. recharge batteries from the charger and im on again. have not hooked up my pma to the motor as of yet but that may put me over. double stator permanent magnet alternator kicks out around 38 amps per leg-that's six legs on mine. as for having to take more turns to correct voltage-don't know what your talking about-adjust with pulleys and there you go. if u have to -step it down gain amps. use and learn about current transformers-knowledge is power.
 
Re: Self-powered (fuelless) Generator Design by DDon11: 3:39am On Jul 11, 2013
Some of you only need one key to liberate u from the shackles u're in, and i don't intend to do that.

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