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Convincing Atheists Regarding Existence Of God by dattaswami: 10:16am On Dec 26, 2012
Convincing atheists regarding existence of God
God is beyond words


The absolute God is unimaginable as per several statements of the Vedas and the Gita, which are the Holy Scriptures of Hinduism. Scientists should not reject the existence of any unimaginable item claiming that everything is explicable or imaginable. They should not refuse to accept unimaginable miracles, treating them to be explicable magic. The same scientists say that space is infinite and its boundary is unimaginable. If you reach the boundary where the imaginable universe ends, you have touched the boundary where some different (unimaginable) item begins. It is just like reaching the boundary where water ends, which is also the boundary where land, which is different from water, begins. Similarly, if you follow the trail of smoke (to its origin), you find that at the boundary where the smoke ends, you will touch fire, which is different from smoke. Just as the fire is the generator of the smoke, the unimaginable God is the generator of this imaginable universe or space.

Before the generation of the product, the generator alone exists. Similarly, before the generation of space, God alone exists. This means that space or spatial dimensions cannot exist in God since space cannot exist before it is generated. This means that God has no spatial dimensions. Your intelligence cannot imagine anything having no spatial dimensions even if you try to imagine for millions of years. The conclusion of this analysis is that the unimaginable and invisible God exists as the boundary of this imaginable universe. Buddha kept silent about God. This should not be misunderstood as the negation of God. It should be understood that God being unimaginable is indicated by silence i.e., He is beyond words.

Unity of Religions in the Universe

Every religion says that their God created this earth and humanity. But, unfortunately, there is only one earth! This means that there must be only one God, who is the internal unimaginable-invisible God in different human forms. The conservatives of every religion are rigid about the worship of their God alone saying that their scripture alone is right. Let Me take the example of conservative people in Christianity, who say that for those who do not believe in Jesus, hell is inevitable.

India was discovered by the West some 1700 years after the delivery of the Bible by Jesus in Jerusalem. So 17 generations in India have gone to hell for no fault of theirs. Had the Bible been delivered in all the countries simultaneously, at least some people of these 17 generations might have been saved. This unnecessarily makes God appear partial. But God being the Father of all humanity on this single earth cannot be partial! This defect attacks the side of conservative people of every religion. There is no answer from the side of these conservatives to this argument. But there is an excellent answer from the side of Universal Spirituality. God came in different human forms to all countries simultaneously and delivered the same contents in different languages as different scriptures. Therefore, God is not partial to anybody. Those who followed those contents went to God irrespective of their religion and country.

Human Incarnation of God
Worship & service to contemproary human incarnation of God

Every human being is a single phase system formed by the homogenous mixing of the two components, matter and energy. Matter is visible and imaginable and it forms the human body. Energy is invisible and imaginable. This energy has two subdivisions:
1) The inert energy that binds the matter. It also exists in different forms of work like respiration, digestion, etc. as seen in functioning systems like lungs, intestines etc.

2) The living energy or awareness, which is the specific work form of the above inert energy functioning in the nervous system. It is called as soul.

The unimaginable-invisible God expresses Himself by entering a selected human being called as the human incarnation. This human incarnation is thus the homogenous mixture of the three components: God, matter and energy (including both the subdivisions of energy). This is called as Aatreya, which means ‘three-treated-as-one’. This incarnation is called as Datta, which means ‘given’ i.e., the unimaginable-invisible God is given to the world as the imaginable-visible relative God and He is called as Datta-Aatreya or Dattatreya. Just as the invisible electric current is experienced through a visible metallic wire, God is experienced through the selected human being. Apart from the physical appearance of the materialized body, the main purpose of this human incarnation is preaching spiritual knowledge and the clarification of all doubts. This is possible only with the help of awareness or the soul. This is the reason why God does not exist in inert matter.

However, inert statues and images can be worshipped as representative models of God to increase one’s personal devotion even though direct service to God is not possible through these images. In Hinduism, Hanuman and the Gopikas stand as the topmost liberated souls. They worshipped and served their contemporary human incarnations alone. God comes in human form in every generation and in every culture simultaneously to avoid the partiality of blessing only one specific generation and one specific religion without any reason. Thus, the human incarnations like Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammad, Mahavir, etc., can be recognized. The internal unimaginable God in all these different human forms is one and the same since there can be many imaginables but the Unimaginable can be only One.
The soul departing from this world enters an inert energetic body (non-material) and can be treated as a single component of energy alone. Alternatively, it can be treated as a two-component system by treating the two subdivisions of energy as two different components. The unimaginable God enters a selected energetic human being and is called as Father of Heaven or Narayana etc. Thus, the energetic incarnation is also a homogenous mixture of three components.

Repulsion of Human incarnaiton fo God Due to the Common Medium

The whole tragedy is that the human being in this world rejects the human incarnation of God and the same human being in an energetic body in the upper world, rejects the energetic incarnation of God due to the principle of ‘repulsion between common media’. Human beings are unable to recognize the unimaginable-invisible God, the third component, and instead, treat the incarnation to be identical to themselves. They think that even the incarnation is only a system of two components (matter and energy). By this, the soul loses God forever, here (this world) and there (upper world). The main reason for this is the ego and jealousy towards a fellow human form. The removal of ego and jealousy can be eradicated by a special training, which is the development of love and respect for fellow human beings through service. The hatred for fellow living beings is the source of sin. This should be controlled by the fear of hell. Mohammad, who was Himself a human incarnation of God, deleted this very concept of human incarnation, since His preceding human incarnation, Jesus, was crucified by fellow human beings due to their excessive ego and jealousy.

Existence of Heaven and Hell

The scientist may say that hell does not exist since I am unable to show him hell in space. But in this infinite space, the scientist too is unable to show Me the absence of hell. This results in a situation of 50:50 probability. One person tells a blind man that there is a fire ahead and another person tells him that there is no fire ahead. In this context of a 50:50 probability, the wise blind man goes back avoiding the risk. You do not lose anything even if hell is absent and you have not commited any sin in your life. On the other hand, thinking that there is no hell, if you commit sins in your life and at the end you discover that hell actually exists, the consequences are horrible! This shall open the eyes of the scientist and the atheist regarding the value of spirituality.
Re: Convincing Atheists Regarding Existence Of God by advocate666: 10:32am On Dec 26, 2012
Still makes no sense.

Replace "god" in your writting with "bllugraj" for example and you'll get my drift.
Re: Convincing Atheists Regarding Existence Of God by plendil: 10:36am On Dec 26, 2012
@OP, there are at least no less than 3 of such threads about convincing atheists about God, and we all know it it has gone. why not concentrate more on spiritually building topics for Christians?
Re: Convincing Atheists Regarding Existence Of God by AtheistD(m): 11:02am On Dec 26, 2012
Pointless argument

Some atheists are now theists.... like me cheesy

I worship Zeus and Sol Invictus and the flying spaghetti (who is a vengeful and wrathful god). I am considering the pink unicorn too.

I am considering converting a local school into a place of worship where i will place a massive portrait of the flying spaghetti.

Ok.....

Be honest folks. My statements above seem silly and I am wasting valuable space and time following such nonsense.

Apply that logic to your religion and BINGO. cool

PS. The pink unicorn condones religious genocide so i might be tempted to go on a crusade...errr... jihad....err.... extreme religious conversion on the locals nearby. grin
Re: Convincing Atheists Regarding Existence Of God by Nobody: 2:15pm On Dec 26, 2012
dattaswami: Convincing Dattaswami regarding existence of MARIJUANA MONSTER.
The green one is beyond words


The absolute MARY JANEs unimaginable potent as per several statements of the Vedas and the Gita and the quran and the bible and the iliad and the book of the dead and IFA, which are the Holy Scriptures of marijuana enthusiasts. Scientists should not reject the existence of any unimaginable high grade weed claiming that everything is explicable or imaginable. They should not refuse to accept unimaginable miracles, treating them to be explicable magic. The same scientists say that space is infinite and its boundary is unimaginable. If you reach the boundary where the imaginable universe ends, you have touched the boundary where some different (unimaginable) item begins AND THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE SMOKING SOME GOOD KUSH. It is just like reaching the boundary where water ends, which is also the boundary where land, which is different from water, begins.NOW YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE HIGH AS F@CK!!! Similarly, if you follow the trail of smoke (to its origin)THAT GOOD WEED SMOKE, you find that at the boundary where the smoke ends, you will touch fire,AND THE FIRE WILL BURN YOU, which is different from smoke, WHICH MAKES YOU AS HIGH AS THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION. Just as the fire is the generator of the smoke, the unimaginable MARIJUANA MONSTER is the generator of this imaginable universe or space or spacetime or the EXTRAPHYSICAL TIMELINE AS PER MY MAN,DEEPSIGHT!

Before the generation of the BUDS, the MARIJUANA MONSTER alone exists. Similarly, before the generation of space, MARIJUNA TREES alone existed. This means that space or spatial dimensions cannot exist in since space WEED exist before it is generated. This means that KUSH has no spatial dimensions. Your intelligence cannot imagine anything having no spatial dimensions even if you try to imagine for millions of years. The conclusion of this analysis is that the unimaginable and invisible HYDRO exists as the boundary of this imaginable universe. Buddha, ONE OF THE BEST MARIJUAN STRAINS kept silent . This should not be misunderstood as the negation of WEED, It should be understood that MARIJUAN being unimaginable is indicated by silence AND PEACE i.e., THE MARIJUANA MONSTER is beyond words.

Unity of Religions in the Multiverse

Every religion says that their God created this earth and humanity. But, unfortunately, there is only one earth, one Mars, one Jupiter, one mercury, one saturn, one uranus, one neptune,one venus! This means that there must be only one God and Ten Goddesses and approximately two MetaGods,BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE MARIJUNA FAIRY who is the internal unimaginable-invisible God in different human, LION, TIGER, LEOPARD, HYENA,HIPPOPOTAMUS,ELEPHANT, SEA LION, SEA HORSE, SEA URCHIN, SEA TURTLE IN varying forms. The conservatives of every religion are rigid about the worship of their God alone saying that their scripture alone is right, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL MORONS. Let Me take the example of conservative people in Christianity,THE MOST IMBECILIC OF THE LOT, who say that for those who do not believe in Jesus, hell is inevitable. THEY ARE DEFINITELY ON CRACK!!!

India was discovered by the West some 1700 years after the delivery of the Bible by Jesus in Jerusalem, AND THE DELIVERY OF THE QURAN BY MOHAMMED, AND THE DELIVERY OF THE BOOK OF MORMOM BY JOSEPH SMITH, AND THE DELIVERY OF DIANETICS BY L RON HUBBARD, ETC ETC ETC .ions in India have gone to hell for no fault of theirs. Had the Bible been delivered in all the countries simultaneously, t least some people of these 17 generations might have been saved. This unnecessarily makes God appear partial AND F3CKING CRAZY. But God being the Father of all monkeys on this single earth cannot be partial! This defect attacks the side of conservative people of every religion. There is no answer from the side of these conservatives to this argument. But there is an excellent answer from the side of Universal Spirituality. God came in different bacteria forms to all countries simultaneously and delivered the same contents in different languages as different scriptures and poems. Therefore, she is not partial to anybody. Those who followed those contents went to hell irrespective of their religion and country.

Human Incarnation of God
Worship & service to contemproary human incarnation of God

Every human being is a single phase system formed by the homogenous mixing of the six components, matter and energy, light, wind, fire and water. Matter is visible and imaginable and it forms the human body. Energy is invisible and imaginable. This energy has two subdivisions:
1) The inert energy that binds the matter.It also exists in different forms of work like respiration, digestion,INDIGESTION, CONSTIPATIION,HEADACHES, MIGRAINES, STOMACH ACHE,DIARRHEA etc. as seen in functioning systems like lungs, intestines AND BUTT HOLES

2) The living energy or awareness, which is the specific work form of the above inert energy functioning in the nervous system. It is called a soul and it's your STOMACH.

The unimaginable-invisible, THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DISCUSSING, EVEN THOUGH HE IS "UNIMAGINABLE", God expresses Hiself by entering a selected human being, PREFERABLY A VIRGIN of JEWISH ORIGIN, IF HE CAN'T PROCURE A JEWISH VIRGIN, A ZULU VIRGIN WILL DO JUST FINE!! . This human incarnation is thus the homogenous mixture of the six components: God, matter and energy etc (including both the subdivisions of energy). This is called as Aatreya AND BOOM SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA, which means ‘SIX-treated-as-one’. This incarnation is called as Datta and dattaswami, which means ‘given’and taken i.e., the unimaginable-invisible GREAT LEPRECHAUN WITH THE POT OF GOLD AT THE END OF EVERY RAINBOW is given to the world as the imaginable-visible relative God and He is called as Datta-Aatreya or Dattatreya AND BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM SHAKA LAKA SHAK LAKA BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!. Just as the invisible electric current is experienced through a visible metallic wire, God is experienced through the selected human being AND LION, MAYBE SNOOP LION!!!. Apart from the physical appearance of the materialized body, the main purpose of this human incarnation is preaching spiritual knowledge AND ALL OTHER TYPES OF ORWELLIAN DOUBLESPEAK THAT MAKE ZERO SENSE and the clarification of all doubts AND THE PROMOTUION OF FEAR AND IGNORANCE IN THE CLOAK OF PIETY. This is possible only with the help of awareness or the soul. This is the reason why God does not exist in inert matter BUT EXISTS IN THE SPACE BEYOND SPACE WHERE UP IS DOWN AND RIGHT IS LEFT AND EVERYONE LIVES FOREVER. AKA SUGARCANDY MOUNTAIN.

However, inert statues and images can be worshipped as representative models of God to increase one’s personal devotion even though direct service to God is not possible through these images. In Hinduism, Hanuman and the Gopikas stand as the topmost liberated souls. They worshipped and served their contemporary human incarnations alone. God comes in human form in every generation and in every culture simultaneously to avoid the partiality of blessing only one specific generation and one specific religion without any reason. Thus, the human incarnations like Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammad, Mahavir, etc., can be recognized. The internal unimaginable God in all these different human forms is one and the same since there can be many imaginables but the Unimaginable can be only One.
The soul departing from this world enters an inert energetic body (non-material) and can be treated as a single component of energy alone. Alternatively, it can be treated as a two-component system by treating the two subdivisions of energy as two different components. The unimaginable God enters a selected energetic human being and is called as Father of Heaven or Narayana etc. Thus, the energetic incarnation is also a homogenous mixture of three components.

Repulsion of Human incarnaiton fo God Due to the Common Medium

The whole tragedy is that the human being in this world rejects the human incarnation of God and the same human being in an energetic body in the upper world, rejects the energetic incarnation of God due to the principle of ‘repulsion between common media’. Human beings are unable to recognize the unimaginable-invisible God, the third component, and instead, treat the incarnation to be identical to themselves. They think that even the incarnation is only a system of two components (matter and energy). By this, the soul loses God forever, here (this world) and there (upper world). The main reason for this is the ego and jealousy towards a fellow human form. The removal of ego and jealousy can be eradicated by a special training, which is the development of love and respect for fellow human beings through service. The hatred for fellow living beings is the source of sin. This should be controlled by the fear of hell. Mohammad, who was Himself a human incarnation of God, deleted this very concept of human incarnation, since His preceding human incarnation, Jesus, was crucified by fellow human beings due to their excessive ego and jealousy.

Existence of Heaven and Hell

The scientist may say that hell does not exist since I am unable to show him hell in space. But in this infinite space, the scientist too is unable to show Me the absence of hell. This results in a situation of 50:50 probability. One person tells a blind man that there is a fire ahead and another person tells him that there is no fire ahead. In this context of a 50:50 probability, the wise blind man goes back avoiding the risk. You do not lose anything even if hell is absent and you have not commited any sin in your life. On the other hand, thinking that there is no hell, if you commit sins in your life and at the end you discover that hell actually exists, the consequences are horrible! This shall open the eyes of the scientist and the atheist regarding the value of spirituality.

I totally concur.

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