It seems that the Russians has finally had enough of the sabre rattling and war mongering of Israel and its western allies in the middle east. The recent deployment of one of Russia's most sophisticated ballistic missile to Syria, is indeed a game changer for those who know about the Iskander. Russia has supplied Syria 26 Iskander missile batteries to counter any threat the Patriot missile and Arrow 3 defence missile systems may cause in the event of war with its allies. Russia is about to supply Iran as well with this missiles batteries.

The Iskander (NATO name: SS-26 Stone) is a mobile theater ballistic missile specifically designed to penetrate enemy missile defense systems and strike enemy targets. The Iskander system is equipped with two solid-propellant single-stage guided missiles. Each one is controlled throughout the entire flight path and fitted with a nonseparable warhead. Each missile in the launch carrier vehicle can be independently targeted in a matter of seconds. The mobility of the Iskander launch platform makes a launch difficult to prevent.

Targets can be located not only by satellite and aircraft but also by a conventional intelligence center, by a soldier who directs artillery fire or from aerial photos scanned into a computer. The missiles can be re-targeted during flight in the case of engaging mobile targets. Another unique feature of Iskander is the optically guided warhead, which can also be controlled by encrypted radio transmission, including such as those from AWACS or UAV. The electro-optical guidance system provides a self-homing capability. The missile's on-board computer receives images of the target, then locks onto the target with its sight and descends towards it at supersonic speed.

In flight, the missile follows a quasi-ballistic path, performing evasive maneuvers in the terminal phase of flight and releasing decoys in order to penetrate missile defense systems. The missile never leaves the atmosphere as it follows a relatively flat trajectory. The Russian Iskander cruises at hypersonic speed of (Mach 6–7) at a height of 50 km. The Iskander weighs 4615 kg, carries a warhead of 710–800 kg, has a range of 400–480 km, and achieves a CEP (Circular error probable) of 5–7 meters. During flight it can maneuver at different altitudes and trajectories and can pull up to 20 to 30 G to evade anti-ballistic missiles. For example, in one of the trajectory modes it can dive at the target at 90 degrees at the rate of 700–800 m/s performing anti-ABM maneuvers


Here is what the Israeli news media (debka file) has to say about the Iskander missile, and its recent deployment in Syria:

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Why would any body sell that advance to syria. If the regime changes there will be a chance for the west to get 1 of them.

Any case the best means to stop a SLBM is to use air power to destroy them on the ground.

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I guessed that's were the Russian-made S-300 comes in,which Russia also sold to Syria to counter such threats.

Maple: ^^^
I guessed that's were the Russian-made S-300 comes in,which Russia also sold to Syria to counter such threats.

The S-300 is not that capable against 4th and 4.5 stealthier supersonic fighters and low altitude high velocity missiles. The Russians knows this, even there upgraded S-400 will nomore be a threat as EW-suits developments become more sophisticated.

DictatorZAR:

The S-300 is not that capable against 4th and 4.5 stealthier supersonic fighters and low altitude high velocity missiles. The Russians knows this, even there upgraded S-400 will nomore be a threat as EW-suits developments become more sophisticated.

correct the S300 and 400 are for targeting ICBMS, SLBMS, bombers or any other high flying poor manuring targets.Russia has way better sytems for killing fast moving jets.

DictatorZar:
The S-300 is not that capable against 4th and 4.5 stealthier supersonic fighters and low altitude high velocity missiles. The Russians knows this, even there upgraded S-400 will nomore be a threat as EW-suits developments become more sophisticated.

You should get your facts straight. The S-400 was specifically upgraded to counter the threat of the most sophisticated aircrafts in the world, the US F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning, which are both 5th generation supersonic stealth multirole aircrafts. The S-400 successfully destroyed low altitude supersonic cruising targets during tests. Even the S-300 and the Russian-made Pantsir-S1 can do the job, only not as efficient as the S-400. Mind you, an S-500 is already on its way. The Ruskies are way ahead of US in radar and missile technology by a decade.

FYI, Russians are the pioneers of stealth technology. Even though US has surpassed russia in building stealth fighter jets, Russia surpassed US in the detection and countering of stealth targets. For instance, the Avtobaza, a Russian made stealth detection radar sysyem was used by Iran, to detect and capture the most sophisticated and stealthed drone in the world; the US RQ-170. Conventional radar systems have their radar tranmitters and receivers built as one unit, but as long as radar transmitters and receivers are separated and mounted at different locations, at low xmitting frequencies, any EW-suits or stealth targets can be detected.

An F-117 Nighthawk, a 4th generation stealth bomber was shot down by an S-300 over serbia during the kosovo war. Is it any wonder that the US/Israel vehemently lobbied Russia not to honor the deal it made with Iran over the sales of S-300? So tell me, what is US/Israel then afraid of, since they do have lots of 4th, 4.5, and even 5th generation stealth supersonic fighters?

Some of you need to stop blowing hot air. When it comes to high tech warfare, US is number 1.

Maple:

You should get your facts straight. The S-400 was specifically upgraded to counter the threat of the most sophisticated aircrafts in the world, the US F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning, which are both 5th generation supersonic stealth multirole aircrafts. The S-400 successfully destroyed low altitude supersonic cruising targets during tests. Even the S-300 and the Russian-made Pantsir-S1 can do the job, only not as efficient as the S-400. Mind you, an S-500 is already on its way. The Ruskies are way ahead of US in radar and missile technology by a decade.

FYI, Russians are the pioneers of stealth technology. Even though US has surpassed russia in building stealth fighter jets, Russia surpassed US in the detection and countering of stealth targets. For instance, the Avtobaza, a Russian made stealth detection radar sysyem was used by Iran, to detect and capture the most sophisticated and stealthed drone in the world; the US RQ-170. Conventional radar systems have their radar tranmitters and receivers built as one unit, but as long as radar transmitters and receivers are separated and mounted at different locations, at low xmitting frequencies, any EW-suits or stealth targets can be detected.

An F-117 Nighthawk, a 4th generation stealth bomber was shot down by an S-300 over serbia during the kosovo war. Is it any wonder that the US/Israel vehemently lobbied Russia not to honor the deal it made with Iran over the sales of S-300? So tell me, what is US/Israel then afraid of, since they do have lots of 4th, 4.5, and even 5th generation stealth supersonic fighters?

You don't upgrade a missel to fight a stealth sytem you upgrade the Radar.

Crusie missiels are not air craft. And that nothing really big since it is what they built to do.

In a lot of areas russia is a head of the amricans.


But stealth is not one of them. Amrica still has the best stealth aircraft he B2 bomber. And have build stealth aircraft for years.

That method is nothing new. And no one biefes a stealth air craft can not be seen(exept a few dumb yanks). Just harder to see and target.

You do know it not that advance any more.

Proof. People still dobt what brought it down. I could have been AAA fire. And if it was the S300. Wow a Sam built to kill bombers killed a bomber.

Only 200 F22 are in servis and the F35 is in production. Along with the B2 and F117 it still a small number. And only usa has them not israel. The try to stop every arms deal to Iran. They defacto enemys.

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Dude, an S400 (and s300) is not just a missile, but a Surface to Air defense system battery fully equipped with radar systems. sigh

Russia is just doing bussiness with Syria and Iran, saling their markets, making money, Russians need money

Maple: ^^^
Dude, an S400 (and s300) is not just a missile, but a Surface to Air defense system battery fully equipped with radar systems. sigh

Running a very successful High altitude SAM program and creating a security umbrella is extremely tough specially when the opponents are F-22's , F-35's , B-2's , B-1's , UCAV-n , F-117's using weaponry of all types.

You can't beat the US in stealth technology.

violent:

Running a very successful High altitude SAM program and creating a security umbrella is extremely tough specially when the opponents are F-22's , F-35's , B-2's , B-1's , UCAV-n , F-117's using weaponry of all types.

You can't beat the US in stealth technology.

agreed but the moment those so called stealth aircrafts open there bomb bays to use those weapons and the s400 or500 radar picks up their signature, those pilots are as good as dead.....once the missile leaves its rack, that aircrafts defences wouldn't even have the time to kick in because an s500 missile hits u @ mach12 at that speed the war head doesn't even need to detonate it just needs to hit the plane and dey would be cleaning up its pieces with a mop....... the ruskies are way ahead of the yanks in anything missiles just get it

Zeus_Ayo: agreed but the moment those so called stealth aircrafts open there bomb bays to use those weapons and the s400 or500 radar picks up their signature, those pilots are as good as dead.....once the missile leaves its rack, that aircrafts defences wouldn't even have the time to kick in because an s500 missile hits u @ mach12 at that speed the war head doesn't even need to detonate it just needs to hit the plane and dey would be cleaning up its pieces with a mop....... the ruskies are way ahead of the yanks in anything missiles just get it

LOL!!! You place too much trust on these systems.


It's not really that hard to defeat a complex missile system like those of the ruskies
First, you can use Joint stand off weapons - Just the same as Israel did in Syria about a year ago.


Second, you can send in hundreds of high altitude armed global hawks UAVs that fly in the same formation and with the same speed as an F35. Since a radar cannot differentiate between the two, the ruskies will simply have to fire their missiles at these drones. An invader that is several miles outside this theatre of operation could easily map the location of radar stations and take them out with standard JDAMS. To put in context, US is well on target to have about 8000 drones in its arsenal by 2025

Third, these missiles are actually bloody expensive - Russia has only about 112 units of S400s!!!! -- To put in a context, each US cruiser/destroyer carry about 90 Tomahawk missiles. To put in another context USS Barry (just one ship) fired about 120 Tomahawk missiles into Libya in one single night! - how many S400s do you need to defend Russia?

bookface:




LOL!!! You place too much trust on these systems.


It's not really that hard to defeat a complex missile system like those of the ruskies
First, you can use Joint stand off weapons - Just the same as Israel did in Syria about a year ago.


Second, you can send in hundreds of high altitude armed global hawks UAVs that fly in the same formation and with the same speed as an F35. Since a radar cannot differentiate between the two, the ruskies will simply have to fire their missiles at these drones. An invader that is several miles outside this theatre of operation could easily map the location of radar stations and take them out with standard JDAMS. To put in context, US is well on target to have about 8000 drones in its arsenal by 2025

Third, these missiles are actually bloody expensive - Russia has only about 112 units of S400s!!!! -- To put in a context, each US cruiser/destroyer carry about 90 Tomahawk m00b. issiles. To put in another context USS Barry (just one ship) fired about 120 Tomahawk missiles into Libya in one single night! - how many S400s do you need to defend Russia?

the s400/500 also carry other point close air defense/cram weapons in the battery like the SA7/22 sams and CIws so for small targets like jdam and all dose fancy drones u talked about would be shot down by the close in weapons so the main missiles would be used against the main fighters and the ruskies claim they have radars that can see through stealth

Zeus_Ayo: the s400/500 also carry other point close air defense/cram weapons in the battery like the SA7/22 sams and CIws so for small targets like jdam and all dose fancy drones u talked about would be shot down by the close in weapons so the main missiles would be used against the main fighters and the ruskies claim they have radars that can see through stealth

You missed the point!

First, you cant carry a closed in weapons system on a missile!

Second, you can't use a closed in weapons systems for targets that are miles away.

Third, there are drones that are the same size as jet fighters, a radar cannot tell the difference between the two. A radar will only identify either a small or large object flying at xyz speed along with a number of other information - the radar will not distinguish between a drone and a fighter. You will need to get up close and personal to make an identification - i.e scramble your own jets.

Fourth, an invader that is looking to target your radar stations may send in the drones as in the third point above as decoys - it wouldn't matter if you shoot your SAMs or whatever at them, as long as your radar station begin to track these decoys, their locations can be mapped and they can be taken out pretty quickly! Once your radar stations are out, every your missile defense structure is wrecked! It took NATO only two days to wipe out Libya's Soviet made missile defense structure!

Fifth, the Russians may truly have the technology to "see" through stealth, but these claims are untested. The beauty of having a stealth technology is that it gives you the upper hand, not only in combat but in psychological wars. For instance, the US may claim that it has just flown a B2 bomber through Russian airspace - this may in fact be false! But the Russians cannot tell if it is true or false - Until a time when you actually shoot down a B2 spirit, an F22 or an F35, you claims to have the capacity to "see" through stealth will remain untested.

bookface:

You missed the point!

First, you cant carry a closed in weapons system on a missile!

Second, you can't use a closed in weapons systems for targets that are miles away.

Third, there are drones that are the same size as jet fighters, a radar cannot tell the difference between the two. A radar will only identify either a small or large object flying at xyz speed along with a number of other information - the radar will not distinguish between a drone and a fighter. You will need to get up close and personal to make an identification - i.e scramble your own jets.

Fourth, an invader that is looking to target your radar stations may send in the drones as in the third point above as decoys - it wouldn't matter if you shoot your SAMs or whatever at them, as long as your radar station begin to track these decoys, their locations can be mapped and they can be taken out pretty quickly! Once your radar stations are out, every your missile defense structure is wrecked! It took NATO only two days to wipe out Libya's Soviet made missile defense structure!

Fifth, the Russians may truly have the technology to "see" through stealth, but these claims are untested. The beauty of having a stealth technology is that it gives you the upper hand, not only in combat but in psychological wars. For instance, the US may claim that it has just flown a B2 bomber through Russian airspace - this may in fact be false! But the Russians cannot tell if it is true or false - Until a time when you actually shoot down a B2 spirit, an F22 or an F35, you claims to have the capacity to "see" through stealth will remain untested.

somehow I agree with you......