Hallo guys,

Yes I know this is rather a silly question and I don't mind getting a silly answer in return; but seriously, when we say that God is omnipotent, what exactly do we mean?

It is not a silly question. It simply means: all power is derived from God.

Yes! all power, whether military, political, science & academics, spiritual, religious, astrology/numerology, etc. Even all lies are derived from God

okeyxyz: It is not a silly question. It simply means: all power is derived from God.

Yes! all power, whether military, political, science & academics, spiritual, religious, astrology/numerology, etc. Even all lies are derived from God

This is a great answer I must say! I asked this question basically because of a question Plaetton asked: "Can God commit suicide?"...

From your explanation above, I gather that the ability man has to commit suicide is from God, in other words, the power man has to kill himself is derived from God. Now can we extend this to say that God has the ability to self destruct?

outc@st:


This is a great answer I must say! I asked this question basically because of a question Plaetton asked: "Can God commit suicide?"...

From your explanation above, I gather that the ability man has to commit suicide is from God, in other words, the power man has to kill himself is derived from God. Now can we extend this to say that God has the ability to self destruct?

God does not have the ability to self destruct because he is the ultimate power from which other lesser powers are derived. It takes a greater power to destroy/subdue a lesser one. All powers in the universe aspires to be like God, thus they are lesser and a derivation of God. So suicide can be godly only in relative terms but god himself is not relative but ultimate and absolute. Suicide is relative power(and Godly) in the sense that it can take away your pains(power over your pains).

okeyxyz:

God does not have the ability to self destruct because he is the ultimate power from which other lesser powers are derived. It takes a greater power to destroy/subdue a lesser one. All powers in the universe aspires to be like God, thus they are lesser and a derivation of God. So suicide can be godly only in relative terms but god himself is not relative but ultimate and absolute. Suicide is relative power(and Godly) in the sense that it can take away your pains(power over your pains).

Hmmm...will I be correct to say that for you omnipotent is the ability of God to 'subdue' other 'powers' but himself?

^^^ What I'm trying to say is this: Whenever you try to control or change a situation, then you are playing god. The whole concept of god does not make sense if there is no power to validate it/him. So all power is Godly(ie: derivative or demonstration of God).

outc@st:


This is a great answer I must say! I asked this question basically because of a question Plaetton asked: "Can God commit suicide?"...

From your explanation above, I gather that the ability man has to commit suicide is from God, in other words, the power man has to kill himself is derived from God. Now can we extend this to say that God has the ability to self destruct?

well i wish outc@st could explain what he meant by "all lies are derived from God" because the Devil is the father of all lies" John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. And to answer your Q? @okeyxyz God is not a murderer nor does he in one way or the other make people commit suicide. Yes God is omnipotent but 2 Timothy 1:7 says For the Spirit which God has given us is not a spirit of cowardice, but one of power and of love and of sound judgement (other version says self-control, wise discretion) so a person that commit suicide as actually listened to the lies of the Devil, making it affect is will making or discretion. Lets not confuse things here pls.

okeyxyz: It is not a silly question. It simply means: all power is derived from God.

Yes! all power, whether military, political, science & academics, spiritual, religious, astrology/numerology, etc. Even all lies are derived from God

God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?

Numbers 23:19

okeyxyz: ^^^ What I'm trying to say is this: Whenever you try to control or change a situation, then you are playing god. The whole concept of god does not make sense if there is no power to validate it/him. So all power is Godly(or a derivative of God).

Even the power of Pharoah used to enslave the Jews.

Logicboy03:

God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?

Numbers 23:19

Every lie needs truth to inspire or validate it. In other words: every lie wants to be like the truth and be treated as the truth. the statement "God cannot lie..." simply means that god transcends the capabilities(powers) of man, who is trying to be like god(power) with his laws and wisdoms, but ultimately falls short and becomes a lie even though it has some demonstration of power.

So, even lies have power...

okeyxyz: It is not a silly question. It simply means: all power is derived from God.

Yes! all power, whether military, political, science & academics, spiritual, religious, astrology/numerology, etc. Even all lies are derived from God

How do you go from 'all powers' are derived from God to 'all lies' are derived from God?

Logicboy03:
Even the power of Pharoah used to enslave the Jews.

GBAM!!!!

musKeeto:

How do you go from 'all powers' are derived from God to 'all lies' are derived from God?

Because lies have powers too. Lies are trying to be like the truth(the true power).

Okeyzksz....You are sounding insane.

Even your username is insane, I cant spell it without looking at your username 3 times while typing.


okyeyskz
okeyksz

I want peeps to try it....type this guyz usernae without looking at the spelling more than once (one quick glance)

LOL.. i think okey's an abbreviation of Okechukwu.. then xyz...

not difficult at all..

musKeeto: LOL.. i think okey's an abbreviation of Okechukwu.. then xyz...

not difficult at all..

Igbo things.....

Logicboy03:

Igbo things.....

You got a problem?

Logicboy03: Okeyzksz....You are sounding insane.

Even your username is insane, I cant spell it without looking at your username 3 times while typing.


okyeyskz
okeyksz

I want peeps to try it....type this guyz usernae without looking at the spelling more than once (one quick glance)

.......

musKeeto: LOL.. i think okey's an abbreviation of Okechukwu.. then xyz...

not difficult at all..

Xyz reminds of a mortal combat combo configuration.......

Alfa Seltzer:

You got a problem?

lol....you sef be igbo?

I dont have any problems.....I am not a tribalist- dats why you never see me on the politics section

I used to think it meant God can do anything. I then concluded God can't do bad things and at least couldn't say the largest number (because there'll always be a numbef larger than it) so He couldn't be omnipotent, just very powerful.

outc@st:


This is a great answer I must say! I asked this question basically because of a question Plaetton asked: "Can God commit suicide?"...

From your explanation above, I gather that the ability man has to commit suicide is from God, in other words, the power man has to kill himself is derived from God. Now can we extend this to say that God has the ability to self destruct?

Interesting question. Because I myself thought if God couldn't kill Himself, as Christians say, He couldn't do all things, as Christians also say. One way of solving this quandary is by saying death is illusory, a mere passage from one life to the next. Inanimate matter don't die, they simply exist in another form (e.g fuel becomes heat which runs cars). It could be this applies to God. One can't say He dies, the way one won't say a glass dies if it breaks, or water dies if it evaporates.

Uyi Iredia:

Interesting question. Because I myself thought if God couldn't kill Himself, as Christians say, He couldn't do all things, as Christians also say. One way of solving this quandary is by saying death is illusory, a mere passage from one life to the next. Inanimate matter don't die, they simply exist in another form (e.g fuel becomes heat which runs cars). It could be this applies to God. One can't say He dies, the way one won't say a glass dies if it breaks, or water dies if it evaporates.

God is inanimate? I hope you know that means that your god is dead

Logicboy03:

God is inanimate? I hope you know that means that your god is dead

I didn't say or imply that God is inanimate.

Uyi Iredia:

Interesting question. Because I myself thought if God couldn't kill Himself, as Christians say, He couldn't do all things, as Christians also say. One way of solving this quandary is by saying death is illusory, a mere passage from one life to the next. Inanimate matter don't die, they simply exist in another form (e.g fuel becomes heat which runs cars). It could be this applies to God. One can't say He dies, the way one won't say a glass dies if it breaks, or water dies if it evaporates.

But the question is: Can't God kill himself if he wants to?

Logicboy03:


God is inanimate? I hope you know that means that your god is dead

lol

come on Uyi!!

god is whatever you want it to be. he is very ... pliable.

omnipotent, big grammar, big God.

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

I have noticed that this "okeyxyz" of a person carries a quality of "strange fire" that even makes atheists to marvel.The same way satan marvels when men step beyond the bounds that satan himself will never dare to go to challenge God & boldly speak great swelling words to ridicle Him.

It means that God's will is subject to no one. Asking if God can self destruct is redundant, it cannot be part of his will.