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Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 8:35am On Jul 03, 2013 |
Uyi Iredia:i'm almost sure logicboy didnt mean it |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 1:33pm On Jul 03, 2013 |
Uyi Iredia: double negative. There is a reason we do not use double negative in grammar. A belief requires a faith in something. You dont believe in a negative. Atheism is not a belief. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 1:36pm On Jul 03, 2013 |
Deep Sight: Ignorance is a disease. Have you seen any scientific paper on the big bang or evolution containing the word "God"? Silly old man |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by UyiIredia(m): 3:52pm On Jul 03, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Why is it hard for you to accept your mistake ? I just showed you the illogic behind your statement and you bring in a red herring. You do believe in a negative, and as my post shows, any negative can be positively stated. eg Tolu does not believe in fairies = Tolu believes there are no fairies. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 4:35pm On Jul 03, 2013 |
Uyi Iredia: Go back to school bro! Tolu does not believe in fairies = Tolu has a disbelief in fairies. A disbelief is not a belief in reverse. You forget that grammar does not always follow logic Tolu does not have money = Tolu has no money Is it literally possible to actually have zero Naira? To hold no money? Think about it- do you actually hold zero naira the same way you hold 5 naira in your hand? |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by UyiIredia(m): 11:18pm On Jul 03, 2013 |
You're good I admit. Wallow in your logicboyism. Twisting logic is your forte. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by texanomaly(f): 11:35pm On Jul 03, 2013 |
You guys kill me. I think you just like to argue...I love it. Whenever I see any of these monikers, I'm in! Ya'll are fun to follow. LOLz I may have to stop though. I find myself picking everyone's posts apart in my head, and have to stop myself from dissecting it and regurgitating it back at them. No offense. I truly enjoy the debate. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by druid06(m): 11:48pm On Jul 03, 2013 |
texanomaly: You guys kill me. I think you just like to argue...I love it. Whenever I see any of these monikers, I'm in! Ya'll are fun to follow. LOLz I may have to stop though. I find myself picking everyone's posts apart in my head, and have to stop myself from dissecting it and regurgitating it back at them. No offense. I truly enjoy the debate. @Texanomaly, just saw this book and thought you might like it. Its titled Dad is Fat by Jim Gaffigan. The dude is funny, thought I should share.. BTW, nice picture though. Are you sure you're a Nigerian? Would be back on this topic soon. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by texanomaly(f): 11:50pm On Jul 03, 2013 |
druid06:Thanks, I'll check it out. I'm not Nigerian btw. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by DeepSight(m): 5:02am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Dishonesty is a disease. You claimed that science fully explains the big ban.g and evolution without the need for a God. Fact is, Science does not explain the Big b.ang without the need for a God. Because, science does not explain how or why the big b.ang occurred. If it does, please man up and show me the explanation. A link will suffice. You are either a pathological liar or just plain ignorant of what you discuss. [Post Edited] |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 5:09am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Deep Sight: You are really silly. Where do God and science meet? 1) Science explains how the big bang occured by retracing an expansion of the universe. 2) Evolution is not about the first life And most importantly; Just because science doesnt explain something, it means that it needs God? How silly |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 5:10am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Uyi Iredia: You're good I admit. Wallow in your logicboyism. Twisting logic is your forte. Wow, I know. I have always been to intelligent for you. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by DeepSight(m): 5:15am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Show me, just show me. A link will suffice. Besides, I did not just say how, I also said why. Science does not explain this. 2) Evolution is not about the first life I know that, and knew that you would raise that, and in fact was editing my post in that regard when you responded. But you must know that when talking about the origin of things, you cannot then throw in evolution since it is not about first life! When you throw in evolution in such a discussion, then I am entitled to point out that evolution does not explain first life! And most importantly; O no, I did not say that: i simply pointed out that it is wrong to say that science explains it: it does not! NB: Previous post edited. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 5:25am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Deep Sight: You were foaming at the mouth with anger (instead of logic) that is why you had to edit your post. when you calmed down. I claimed that science explains the big bang and evolution without God. Either my statement is true or false. You are shifting the argument and I wont indulge you. Is my statement true or false? |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by DeepSight(m): 5:27am On Jul 04, 2013 |
@ LB, re: the BB, in showing me how it happened, remember that I speak not just of watching the expansion in reverse: tell me how science explains the dynamics of the pre-existing singularity that therefore caused the expansion: how those dynamics caused the expansion. Thank you. What you are explaining is the motion of a car from one point to another. You reverse the motion and say that the movement of the wheels explains how the car moved from one point to another. However that misses the question! The question is how the car got powered up and started in the first place. How the batteries got their power. How the ignition was started. That is the question - since we speak about origin. Show me where science has explained this. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 5:34am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Deep Sight: Shifting the argument to hide your silliness. Science explains the big bang and evolution without God. Yes or no? You have already said "no" then shifted when I exposed your fallacious thinking. (Just to indulge your deviation, your analogy with a car is foolish. We existed before cars and know the full details of their origin. Evolution and the big bang are more akin to a murder with no witness.....a scientist is working with the evidence backwards from the present to the past) |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by DeepSight(m): 5:34am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Logicboy03: See my above 2 posts. I only edited my post to avoid wasting my time on your mis understanding of how evolution applies to the the first life issue: to wit: you cannot say that science explains evolution without God, when you are discussing the origin of life exactly because evolution does not address the origin of life! But I knew this is something that will take you up till your extreme old age to get your head around, and so I decided to cut it out and focus on the Big B.ang. Now, you did say that science explains the BB without needing God. Please show me how it does this. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 5:37am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Deep Sight: How did you get to know about the big bang in the first place? Scientific articles/journals. Did they mention God? You dont even see how silly you are. You take somthing from science and claim that your "deist god" explains it better. Did your deist God tell you? You cant even see the contradiction and foolishness of your stance. You read about the big bang from science who didnt mention God. You then went to put your false narrative that God did the big bang. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by DeepSight(m): 5:38am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Logicboy03: This is just an admission that indeed, science does not explain either the how or the why of the Big B.ang! Now focus: you said the science explains the Big Bang without the need for God. This implies that scientists know exactly how it occurred and more importantly why it occurred and thus know that there is no need for any external transcendental input in its occurrence. This is what I say is completely false. Scientists do not know either how or why it occurred, and so you cannot claim that "science explains the BB without the need for God.' It does not. If it does, educate my ignorance and kindly show me where. As I said, a link will suffice. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 5:40am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Deep Sight: So, a murder with no witness is unsolvable? Working something based on evidence from present to past doesnt make sense to you? I heard that you were a lawyer. I hope you arent |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by DeepSight(m): 5:42am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Logicboy03: My ignorant friend, it my interest you to know that the Big Bang theory was propounded by a physicist who was a Catholic Priest. That aside, and notwithstanding, the fact remains that no one knows how or why it happened. You therefore cannot claim that "science explains it". It does not. #Fact. If indeed, it is known, please show me. Thanks. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by DeepSight(m): 5:44am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Logicboy03: This is just further admission that you do not know, and no one knows, how or why the Big B.ang occured! A wholesale admission. As such, your statement that science explains it, is proven to be false, by your own admission. Good morning. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 5:47am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Deep Sight: Paradox- if the scientists do not know how it happened, then how are they able to explain it with their theory? See the contradiction you are getting yourself into? "What caused the big bang" is a different question from "how the big bang works" |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 5:51am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Deep Sight: Cut and run See dubious douchebag! Which admission? I am explaining how science solved the case of our universe's past but no, feel free to make false claims about my admission! Why not answer the simple question- how is a murder with no witness solved? I ask this because that is how science works to unravel past events |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by DeepSight(m): 5:52am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Just show me where science explains the how and why of the BB. Good morning. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by DeepSight(m): 5:55am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Logicboy03: So you admit that the cause is unknown. Wholesale admission again. Now, as per how the b.ang works, this is also not known. All that is observed is after the bang - the continuing expansion. Now one knows how that b,ang itself happened or worked. All that is observed is the after effect - the continuing expansion. Good morning! |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 5:58am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Deep Sight: "Why" is not a scientific question. "How" is. Basic knowledge about science that you consistently lack I have explained the "how". I will leave you to your pseudoscientific deist God to explain the big bang since you supernatural physics explains the "why" and "how" better than science |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 6:04am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Deep Sight: Or better yet, "cause" doesnt apply to the big bang. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Nobody: 6:23am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by UyiIredia(m): 8:26am On Jul 04, 2013 |
Hmmn. |
Re: Anony, What Are Your Views On "New Atheism" by Gaelchabus: 5:25pm On Nov 18, 2017 |
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