Fhemmmy: Because some other nations are doing it means we have to do it . . . Yes, the crime was bad and must be punished but i am not too sure this kinda argument makes it better - looked at the list of nations and seeing Nigeria there makes me weep for Nigeria . . . We are on same list with Somalia and even we broke the record for being the latest to use the punishment after Somali

Fhemmmy: Because some other nations are doing it means we have to do it . . . Yes, the crime was bad and must be punished but i am not too sure this kinda argument makes it better - looked at the list of nations and seeing Nigeria there makes me weep for Nigeria . . . We are on same list with Somalia and even we broke the record for being the latest to use the punishment after Somali

honeric01:

Can you just house them instead or can you take up their bills if you prefer life in prisonment?

honeric01:

Can you just house them instead or can you take up their bills if you prefer life in prisonment?

Fhemmmy:

I wont house or keep them, but does the killing solve the problem?

honeric01:

It reduces it and takes away the eventuality of it happening again.

They're no longer useful to the society and the bills spend on them becomes useless.

This money/bills being wasted on their wellbeing can be used to equip the security agencies in curbing future occurence.

It also serves as a deterrant to those who act before they think, those who do not value innocent human lives.

Since the days law became soft, the world has really turned upside down.

Murderers themselves should never be given freedom to their own lives.

No religious book spare any murderer or do you know any?

Logically too, no moral ground supports the keeping alive a murderer who forcefully took away another human's life.

If they're not made to face their punishment, what then should they be made to face?

Life in prisonment for a confirmed killer is not justice and not morally right!

honeric01:

It reduces it and takes away the eventuality of it happening again.

They're no longer useful to the society and the bills spend on them becomes useless.

This money/bills being wasted on their wellbeing can be used to equip the security agencies in curbing future occurence.

It also serves as a deterrant to those who act before they think, those who do not value innocent human lives.

Since the days law became soft, the world has really turned upside down.
thank you,its sad and indeed a great injustice to allow a lowlife coward live,after taking the life of an innocent man.

Murderers themselves should never be given freedom to their own lives.

No religious book spare any murderer or do you know any?

Logically too, no moral ground supports the keeping alive a murderer who forcefully took away another human's life.

If they're not made to face their punishment, what then should they be made to face?

Life in prisonment for a confirmed killer is not justice and not morally right!

pappilo:

Your thinking is warped otherwise why is that countries in Europe where the death penalty has been abolished record less voilent crimes/ murders than countries such as the US, Nigeria, Somalia e.t.c which still have the death penalty.

NB

I am not against the death penalty.

Afro connect:
its not because they took away the death penalty hat makes the country peaceful,it is the general nature of the people there.

pappilo:

Your thinking is warped otherwise why is that countries in Europe where the death penalty has been abolished record less voilent crimes/ murders than countries such as the US, Nigeria, Somalia e.t.c which still have the death penalty.

NB

I am not against the death penalty.

honeric01:

Afroconnect already answered you.

Do you even know that in some European countries, prisoners are allowed to go home like school? Should we practise that too since they also do?

Fhemmmy:

So cant we study what makes things work there and see how we could make things work in Nigeria? . . If we killing the people, when will it be the turn of the leaders to be dealt with cos they are worse that the man stealing on the street?

honeric01:

America and other developed countries have more of what these countries have, yet they still have death row, so what are you saying?

Chevk out most of these European countries without it, you do see that they're like one family with one language, one belief, one culture, one idea, hence the reason they have lesser crime unlike a country like Nigeria where one family is filled with strangers, not to talk of the whole country ar large!

Fhemmmy:

Dont get me wrong, Nigeria is not easy to govern, but with all our capital punishment, what have we achieved, infact, crime in Nigeria has not gone down at all, it is getting worse.
If you say they are killing the criminals all cos of the cost to keep them, fine, but to deter others from committing same crime, it is not working

honeric01:

what makes you think its not working? Rather its because we haven't be firm with it.

The last time anyone was executed was in 2006, 7 years ago, so its not like its being done here and there, remember the time of firing squad? Armed robbery reduced drastically.

In most asian countries where its firmly practised, killers personally kill themselves via suicide, fraudsters and corrupt politicians do because of the stigma attached to death sentence.
Believe me, if death penalty is ressurrected again, murder crime is going to reduce, same with kidnapping. Where there's no law, there's no sin.

Fhemmmy:

So cant we study what makes things work there and see how we could make things work in Nigeria? . . If we killing the people, when will it be the turn of the leaders to be dealt with cos they are worse that the man stealing on the street?

Afro connect:
corruption is bad,but realistically it can never be compared to a mindless killer who walks into your home,rapes your wife-shoots your kid and walks away smiling...does it?

Fhemmmy:

Chairman, let us leave that for another thread, cos we will not agree on that at all. . . Yes, the crime you describe is horrible, but many are dying and becoming what you described cos people that are corrupt, but like i said, let us leave that for another thread and just focus on the issue at hand on this thread

Fhemmmy:

But when will it be the turn of the leaders that steals be sentenced to firing squad ? Maybe that will reduce looting too

honeric01:

Then meet with your constituency's rep, sponsor a bill on that and make sure its discussed on national level.

Btw, America we so much copy have deathrow, but not for corruption because to them, it can't be compared. money looted can be recovered, can a soul killed be brought back to life?

honeric01:

Afroconnect already answered you.

Do you even know that in some European countries, prisoners are allowed to go home like school? Should we practise that too since they also do?

Afro connect: i think anyone that purposely killed another soul,armed robbers that rape and kill,sadistic rapists and terrorists should be killed when convicted,for all y'all talking trash-check out the list of countries here that still use death penalties over 60.
Amnesty international do not have work,they are living in a fantasy,the truth is there are more evil sadistic killers and cultists,that crave for human blood now than before,we must eliminate these barbarians in order to have a sane world.
follow this link to see the list
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_capital_punishment_by_country

honeric01:

what makes you think its not working? Rather its because we haven't be firm with it.

The last time anyone was executed was in 2006, 7 years ago, so its not like its being done here and there, remember the time of firing squad? Armed robbery reduced drastically.

In most asian countries where its firmly practised, killers personally kill themselves via suicide, fraudsters and corrupt politicians do because of the stigma attached to death sentence.
Believe me, if death penalty is ressurrected again, murder crime is going to reduce, same with kidnapping. Where there's no law, there's no sin.

BluIvy:

You forgot to add Drug Dealers, Child Traffickers, Molesters and Fraudsters. Then you have full package, thats made of immediate deaths and future deaths prevention of perpetraitors, victims and society at large. Now this your story looks good.