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Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by nijanigga: 12:09am On Jul 04, 2013
The instability America is causing around the world, will always come back to hunt them.I'm not condoning terrorism,but if the Muslim brotherhood turn to a terror organization?
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Olaone1: 12:09am On Jul 04, 2013
ShyM-X:


Sir, that was for the cameras, his base and Egyptian people, and the pact Egypt has with Palestinian people. Morsi has been a western puppet since he assumed office - they put him there. Don't forget that Muslim Brotherhood is a British/Western creation and the brotherhood's foot soldiers were the ones who started the Libyan revolution and they are also at the forefront of the Syrian revolution/war.
Maybe you're right sha. I know they like/liked him
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 12:09am On Jul 04, 2013
tbaba1234: The issue here is beyond religion. Even religious muslims seem to be against morsi.

Many egyptians seem to be upset with him but is this the way to go?

Just demonstrate if the leader is not working?

What if the next guy is bad?? Would they kick him out too??

It sets a dangerous precedent. Let him finish his tenure then kick him out if he fails

the people were much too smart... they must have learnt a lot by looking across the syrian border. Why wait for him to finish his tenure when it was obvious that tenure is not likely to ever end until death? Dude had already hijacked the legislature, rewritten the constitution, decimated the judiciary... a few more years and the army would just have become another wing of the islamic jihad.

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Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by lagcity(m): 12:10am On Jul 04, 2013
The Egyptian people deserve whatever govt they get. Na oversabi dey worry them.
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 12:12am On Jul 04, 2013
Prof Corruption:
There won't be any significant policy change because the coup is executed in an intelligent way with a civilian leading the executive. That removes a lot of pressure from the Egyptian military. The real leverage of the Americans is basically with the military, not the brotherhood, so US has not lost much in Egypt. US ll issue statement in this line: we stand by the Egyptian people and call on all Egyptians to support the roadmap that leads to a full democracy.

A more cautious moderate islamic leader ll ultimately come to power when elections are held.

Lmao @ the bolded. But can true democracy work in that part of the world? America just needs to stop shoving "democracy" down everyone's throat - not everyone can operate under that ideology.

Also, the brotherhood is on CIA's payroll and their headquarter is in Qatar, the west's second aircraft carrier in MENA, after the zionist state of Israel.
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 12:15am On Jul 04, 2013
the army did the right thing. Egyptians are hungry and that morsi is talking about waging a war against Ethiopia .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZOVj-YNPKI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reLigeHGKzE

the dude is a retard , you want to bring sharia is Egypt? lwkd


the same Morsi who lied that he worked at the NASA as consultant?

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Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 12:20am On Jul 04, 2013
apparently the world didnt trust Morsi either. I notice no one is speaking up for him. Not even the Saudis.
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 12:32am On Jul 04, 2013
Washington just played its ace according to AP on twitter via TheGuardianUK:

BREAKING: Obama orders review of U.S. aid after Egyptian military ousts Morsi. -MM

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 3, 2013


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/04/egypt-morsi-removed-army-live
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 12:34am On Jul 04, 2013
They're also about to unleash the dragon on MB members in Egypt:

Our Egypt correspondent Patrick Kingsley has tweeted that some Egyptian Islamists are already fearing reprisals, and that 300 arrest warrants have just been issued for Muslim Brotherhood members.

So... Islamists feared reprisals should Morsi go. And with 300 warrants out for MB leaders already, it seems it's already going that way.
— Patrick Kingsley (@PatrickKingsley) July 3, 2013

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/04/egypt-morsi-removed-army-live
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 12:35am On Jul 04, 2013
I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsi and his supporters

That's US for you.
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 12:40am On Jul 04, 2013
President Barack Obama urged Egypt's military Wednesday to hand back control to a democratic, civilian government without delay, but stopped short of calling the ouster of President Mohammed Morsi a coup d'etat.

In a carefully worded statement, Obama said he was "deeply concerned" by the military's move to topple Morsi's government and suspend Egypt's constitution. He said he was ordering the U.S. government to assess what the military's actions meant for U.S. foreign aid to Egypt.

Under U.S. law, the government must suspend foreign aid to any nation whose elected leader is ousted in a coup d'etat. The U.S. provides $1.5 billion a year to Egypt in military and economic assistance that is considered a critical U.S. national security priority.

"I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsi and his supporters," Obama said.

The U.S. wasn't taking sides in the conflict, committing itself only to democracy and respect for the rule of law, Obama said.

Egyptian armed forces on Wednesday ousted Morsi, an Islamist and Egypt's first democratically elected president, after just a year in power. The military installed a temporary civilian government, suspended the constitution and called for new elections.

Morsi has denounced it as a "full coup."

Obama huddled in the White House Situation Room on Wednesday afternoon with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, Attorney General Eric Holder and his new national security adviser, former U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice. In his statement after the meeting, Obama said he expected the military to protect the rights of Egypt's men and women to due process and peaceful assembly. He reaffirmed his call for a democratic Egypt that involves participation from secular and religious parties alike.

"The voices of all those who have protested peacefully must be heard, including those who welcomed today's developments, and those who have supported President Morsi," Obama said, urging all sides to refrain from violence.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/egypt-military-pledges-no-long-term-takeover
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by chaloner(m): 12:41am On Jul 04, 2013
Egypt’s military reportedly is attempting a massive roundup of members of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist movement that helped propel Morsy to power a year ago.
Arrest warrants have been issued for 300 members of the Muslim Brotherhood, and an operation to arrest them is under way, according to the state-run Ahram newspaper website on Thursday, which cited an unnamed security source.
Egyptian security forces also have arrested the Muslim Brotherhood’s political party leader, Saad el-Katatni, and its deputy, Rashad Al-Bayoumi, Egypt’s official MENA news agency reported Wednesday, citing an unnamed military source
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Okijajuju1(m): 1:09am On Jul 04, 2013
This Arab spring has set Egypt back by years..

Already, tourism has dropped by over 40%
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 1:25am On Jul 04, 2013
Prof Corruption: "Whoever brings religion to use in politics or in favour of one group at the expense of another will fall anywhere in the world. The summary of what is happening in Egypt is the fall of what is called political Islam."
---Bashar Assad, The embattled Syrian President.

buhari take note! Dont be a religious bigot. Moral of the story.
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Image123(m): 1:37am On Jul 04, 2013
Egypt egypt Bible things.
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by lafuria1(m): 1:52am On Jul 04, 2013
another Algeria in the making. i pity the country egypt. do they really think pro morsi and the muslim brotherhood will just accept this? they dont have to resort to any voilent attack, no, they will wait for 6months and start their own protest,citing how incompetent the present leadership and the cycle continues.

the reality is that building a country is NEVER easy, do egytains really have the patience? even stable countries like the uk, some European countries are facing economic challenges. am yet to see a president that fulfilled his promises within a year.

anyway best of luck to them finding the perfect president.
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 1:55am On Jul 04, 2013
nijanigga: The instability America is causing around the world, will always come back to hunt them.I'm not condoning terrorism,but if the Muslim brotherhood turn to a terror organization?

lol somehow America is to blame because Egyptians hate the government they elected by themselves a year ago? The ridiculous nonsense you read from the ignorant is truly amazing.

The muslim brotherhood is already a terrorist organisation... Hamas is the palestinian offshoot.

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Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by agamenon(m): 2:13am On Jul 04, 2013
I saw it comming in Egypt,Morsi wanted to drag Egypt back during the Pharonic period,Where wisemen refuse to go,fools rush
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Touchforfree(m): 2:14am On Jul 04, 2013
[quote author=okosodo]They want to islamize egypt. Non-muslims are against it. This is the fight.
@ Okosondo........ Why not pls read beyond Nairaland; The whole Egyptian populace (Not even the military alone) came out that they don't want Morsi as their President and removed him. The next thing for you to comment is about religion; Ah ah !. THE ONGOING EGYPT' S CRISES GOES BEYOND RELIGION BUT A REVOLUTION.
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by BekeeBuAgbara: 2:25am On Jul 04, 2013
Morsi has fallen while Assad of Syria is still standing, what an irony
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 3:04am On Jul 04, 2013
Ogetogeo:

And you prefer the military junta era? Smh

How old are you? We have been there before and never wish same for even our enemies.

An adage says, "He that has not seen war, is the one that asks for war".

And how old are you.

Nigeria is the only country that has proved that military govt is much better than civillian govt. I remember back in the days, everyone had enough to eat and jobs were plentiful, even in Abacha's time.

The fiasco that is presently your civillian govt is keeping you deluded to the fact that they are the worst thing to ever happen to Nigeria.

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Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by sweetcheecks(f): 3:06am On Jul 04, 2013
InvertedHammer:

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[b]You are wrong.

Democracy is government of the people by the people and for the people. When someone deviates from campaign promises and starts pandering to the wishes of a cabal, he/she has lost the mandate given to him/her. Democracy needs to be tailored to the environment it is being practiched. That is the essence of critical thinking(thinking outside the box) in colleges instead of cramming texts and vomiting same without critical analysis of the content.

It is idiotic to wait a full term of madness to change non-performing leadership. No time lost is ever gained back.
Egyptians took the bull by the horn. I applaud the military for the matured way they handled the situation.

OBJ did terribly bad.. we waited for a full 8 yrs. GEJ is now dancing naked and we will wait another 8 years. That will be 16 years down the drain while we await for Messiah to levitate down from heaven to solve our problems.

Do you wonder why most nations are hostile to Nigerians? Because when countries are bad, the citizens fight the power (kudos Syria, Egypt, Libya). The eventual outcome might not be well, but they stared the dictator in the face and fought like the heroes that they are. But in Nigeria, the citizens are scouting for any country where the citizens have finished fighting with their blood to migrate there and start living a good life.

When I think of Nigerians, I remember the adage that says, "People will choose UNHAPPINESS over UNCERTAINTY--Timothy Ferriss"
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The best comment by far very educative and clear.

I am actually shocked that some people are faulting one of the best democratic processes in action. We need to be applauding the Egyptian people who chose to protest and put preasure on a regime/goverment that has in just over a year made some of the most radical changes forsaking the rights and wants of his citizens.

Why should anyone wait when the writting is on the wall, that you ( people) happen to have made a big mistake. The army is just ensuring that the conflict does not detoriate into another Syria. I have all the respect for the Egyptians.

As you have clearly mentioned democracy is a contract between the government and the people. The people being the employer and the government the employee. When there is a contractual breach and the employer had tried all other remedies to save the relationship failure on the part of the employee to ractify his action the employer has right to terminate the contract thru the right processes in this case democratic means, protests being one of them.

Only if we Africans can understand that we are not suppose to be bystanders but active participants in our democracies, that would save us the financial massacres that bleed Africas billions to offshore accounts year after year.

On the last note, Egypt will get it right eventually becouse; they seem to be of one mind both the people and the military in avoiding war at all cost. Without an aggresive, offensive and power hungry millitary war chances decreases. And also after decades under a power monger they can surely see the signs miles away and not willing to ever settle for less.

There is not even one country in the whole world that could claim "true" democratic status. The mighty USA which has put itself as a defender of democracy across the globe are the major abusers of democracy. Take a look at Snowden report et al so called whistle blowers America has controlled democracy with wall street being the boss. Americans tried protesting against Wall street their true boss and failed becouse of amazing controlling power its government that Wall street has against Americans.

So, total democracy is an idea that could never be achieved, a mere "UTOPIA".
Bravo Egypt, I salute!

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Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 3:08am On Jul 04, 2013
Well said madam.
However a significant proportion of the populace also endorses the coup.
Morsi did not know how to operate in a democracy. 50% supported him so he felt he had the right to impose his will on the 50% that opposed him, rather than trying to arrive at a consensus.

Lets see how Morsi supporters respond now;


Obiagelli:
This is serious, always new the brotherhood would not last in a strategic country like Egypt. I won't be surprised if the West endorsed this coup
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by sweetcheecks(f): 3:23am On Jul 04, 2013
Prof Corruption:

You see, nothing in itself is bad or good in life. Everything is relative and context justifies everything. let me explain: if you as an individual kill your fellow citizen, it's frown upon as murder. But when a policeman kills a condemned armed robber, it's called what? perfectly normal. That means murder in itself is not a bad thing but the context provides the label of good or bad. That's why you have homicide, real murder etc. Context matters in everything in life. And to paraphrase Achebe, where one thing stands, another thing would stand beside it.There's a narrative behind what is happening in Egypt that clearly vindicates the military intervention.

Very true!
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by tunde1200(m): 4:08am On Jul 04, 2013
These are well reasoning humans not like my country suffering and smiling.
How I wish we know our right as a human in nija.
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by tunde1200(m): 4:11am On Jul 04, 2013
sweetcheecks:

The best comment by far very educative and clear.

I am actually shocked that some people are faulting one of the best democratic processes in action. We need to be applauding the Egyptian people who chose to protest and put preasure on a regime/goverment that has in just over a year made some of the most radical changes forsaking the rights and wants of his citizens.

Why should anyone wait when the writting is on the wall, that you ( people) happen to have made a big mistake. The army is just ensuring that the conflict does not detoriate into another Syria. I have all the respect for the Egyptians.

As you have clearly mentioned democracy is a contract between the government and the people. The people being the employer and the government the employee. When there is a contractual breach and the employer had tried all other remedies to save the relationship failure on the part of the employee to ractify his action the employer has right to terminate the contract thru the right processes in this case democratic means, protests being one of them.

Only if we Africans can understand that we are not suppose to be bystanders but active participants in our democracies, that would save us the financial massacres that bleed Africas billions to offshore accounts year after year.

On the last note, Egypt will get it right eventually becouse; they seem to be of one mind both the people and the military in avoiding war at all cost. Without an aggresive, offensive and power hungry millitary war chances decreases. And also after decades under a power monger they can surely see the signs miles away and not willing to ever settle for less.

There is not even one country in the whole world that could claim "true" democratic status. The mighty USA which has put itself as a defender of democracy across the globe are the major abusers of democracy. Take a look at Snowden report et al so called whistle blowers America has controlled democracy with wall street being the boss. Americans tried protesting against Wall street their true boss and failed becouse of amazing controlling power its government that Wall street has against Americans.

So, total democracy is an idea that could never be achieved, a mere "UTOPIA".
Bravo Egypt, I salute!

Well said madam.

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Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by otokx(m): 4:20am On Jul 04, 2013
Okija_juju: This Arab spring has set Egypt back by years..

Already, tourism has dropped by over 40%

At least they have boldness

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Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 5:57am On Jul 04, 2013
Lol.... He should have asked GEJ to teach him how to pamper the military
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Wsdm: 5:58am On Jul 04, 2013
careytommy:
only islamist like you wont see anything good in this
But some of you said that 4 years is not enough to jouge Jonathan's performance.
Never you compare the relationship between the different religion in that country to that of Nigeria. Nay, they are wiser.
Instead of us to learn from them we are bringing religion.
The president they have just removed is more secular and better than Jonathan.
I also want to remind some of you that the military are not playing religious card but the yearning of the people.
Do we have such spirit now in Nigeria?
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by tpia5: 6:07am On Jul 04, 2013
so, what does this mean for nigeria.
Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 6:23am On Jul 04, 2013
Good point. however it should be noted that the civilian govts in Nigeria were always doomed to fail from the outset by the people who set them.

In 1979 it was genocidal kleptomaniac Thief Obasanjo

In 1999 it was evil genocidal kleptomaniac Evil Babangida who engineered for Genocidal Kleptomaniac Thief Obasanjo to return to power for
8 good years to ruin Nigeria and any prospect of a workable democracy/civilian govt.

pDude:

And how old are you.

Nigeria is the only country that has proved that military govt is much better than civillian govt. I remember back in the days, everyone had enough to eat and jobs were plentiful, even in Abacha's time.

The fiasco that is presently your civillian govt is keeping you deluded to the fact that they are the worst thing to ever happen to Nigeria.

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Re: Egyptian Army Overthrows President Morsi by Nobody: 6:25am On Jul 04, 2013
GenBuhari: Good point. however it should be noted that the civilian govts in Nigeria were always doomed to fail from the outset by the people who set them.

In 1979 it was genocidal kleptomaniac Thief Obasanjo

In 1999 it was evil genocidal kleptomaniac Evil Babangida who engineered for Genocidal Kleptomaniac Thief Obasanjo to have ,
8 good years to ruin Nigeria and any prospect of a workable democracy.

So are you insinuating that Nigerian can never get it right with civilian rule?

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