maclatunji: ^Who are you advertising to?

LagosShia:

to everyone: both the retards who support such a law,and the opponents who hold Islam accountable.

and tell us your opinion: do you agree with a law permitting 9 year old girls to marry?

LagosShia:

to everyone: both the retards who support such a law,and the opponents who hold Islam accountable.

and tell us your opinion: do you agree with a law permitting 9 year old girls to marry?

maclatunji:

I have not even seen the law. So, what can I say? However, I can see your subterranean moves.

vedaxcool:

so Khomeini which who turned the age of marriage immediately after the revolution to 9 is a retard? and recently Iran made attempts to again bring the age down r also retards?

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http://www.mohabatnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=...

Iran seeks to legalise marriage for girls under 10

Saturday, 07 July 2012

The legal affairs committee of the Majles, the Iranian parliament, has told the press that they regard the law that prohibits girls below the age of 10 from being married off to be 'un-Islamic and illegal'.

Mohabatnews ) - According to recently released statistics, in the past few weeks over 75 female children under 10 were forced to marry much older men. In 3929 cases, bride and groom were both under 14.

In a discussion of the issue organised by the Khabar Online news website, conservative law-maker and spokesperson for the Majles committee Mohammad Ali Isfenani said: "Before the revolution girls under 16 were not allowed to marry.

Mohammad Ali Isfenani

Parents determined to get around the law would often tamper with their daughter's birth certificate. Under the previous constitution, people were legally regarded as adults when they were 18. After the revolution the age at which children were regarded as going through puberty was lowered to 9 for girls and 15 for boys.

" He added: "As some people may not comply with our current Islamic legal system, we must regard 9 as being the appropriate age for a girl to have reached puberty and qualified to get married. To do otherwise would be to contradict and challenge Islamic Sharia law."

He also confirmed that under his chairmanship the legal committee of the Majles would seek to change the current legislation./ shahrzad

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http://www.examiner.com/article/tens-of-thousands-worldwide-petition-ira...

Tens of thousands worldwide petition Iran to end child marriages
CHILD MARRIAGE
August 19, 2012
By: D.M. Murdock

A call to action at ThePetitionSite.com created by Christian Miller targets the Iranian government and requests that it not legalize the forced marriage of girls under the age of 10. The petition has garnered the signatures of many thousands of people worldwide, a number of whom have expressed outrage at the Islamic Republic's move, which some consider to reflect an attitude towards female children as property and household slaves.

interesting

LagosShia:

what are they?

vedaxcool: yes and the shia Iran Parliament is dominated by retards who follow the retards footsteps of Khomeini . I can live with that.

maclatunji:

The usual "LagosShia thing.

LagosShia:

do you support a girl of 9 year old to get married at this age and time? yes or no?

LagosShia:

in this age and time,it is wrong for so many reasons,and also because the reasons which motivated a 9 year old to get married back then hardly exist in our time.

Ayatollah Khomeini was born in 1902,a period during which the age of consent in parts of Europe and America was at age 10.there is no sin in islam that a girl should delay in marriage.and if she is not physically and mentally mature,with both the parents' and the girl's consent,she cant get married.

perverts like yerima who already have many wives should not take islam as excuse for his perversion in 2013.early marriage as it used to be for the sake of procreation (as diseases and famine were rampant in the distant past,leading to high mortality rate) and for the understanding of morality,do not exist in 2013.Aisha's age should also not be exploited as Aisha was not a child when the Prophet (sa) married as historical sources confirm.Aisha was at least 16 or 17,and possibly 21 year old.

if you or whoever cannot reason,then you got problem,and you should be ashamed for supporting perverts.

LagosShia:

in this age and time,it is wrong for so many reasons,and also because the reasons which motivated a 9 year old to get married back then hardly exist in our time.

Ayatollah Khomeini was born in 1902,a period during which the age of consent in parts of Europe and America was at age 10.there is no sin in islam that a girl should delay in marriage.and if she is not physically and mentally mature,with both the parents' and the girl's consent,she cant get married.

perverts like yerima who already have many wives should not take islam as excuse for his perversion in 2013.early marriage as it used to be for the sake of procreation (as diseases and famine were rampant in the distant past,leading to high mortality rate) and for the understanding of morality,do not exist in 2013.Aisha's age should also not be exploited as Aisha was not a child when the Prophet (sa) married as historical sources confirm.Aisha was at least 16 or 17,and possibly 21 year old.

if you or whoever cannot reason,then you got problem,and you should be ashamed for supporting perverts.

vedaxcool:

using your argument I can say the following, perverts like Khomeini who already married, but made changes to the law of marriage by reverting the age of consent to 9 during the Iranian revolution a time when the marriage age in Europe and America was 18 abused their authority as religious leaders an exploit shia as means to justify their own perversion, now retatded decision, using ur own words, of Khomeini has served as guidance that retards of the Iranian Parliament that they now state it is even illegal under shia Shari'a to do so. as far as authoritativeness go, you utterly irrelevant as a source of shia knowledge compared to Khomeini, while in your opinion he is a pervert, Khomeini opinion in this matter carries weight, yours simply represent your own opinion wwhich deviates from what Khomeini whose words remains a source of guidance to countless shias.

yusuf01: Call people to Islam with wisdom, so the Qu'ran says, and Ali (ra) defines wisdom as knowing when to talk and when not to.

I believe this is bad timing, the country is heated enough with the activities of Boko haram and their so-called 'islamic jihad', why bring such a sensitive issue?

And not to talk of the country we live in, in as much as I want shariah to be enacted, we must also understand Nigeria is not an Islamic state yet, we should invite people towards islam with hikmah.

There are lots of things Islam needs right now, this obviously is not one of them in my opinion.

maclatunji:


No because most girls don't attain puberty at that age and a whole lot of other factors like the country we live in and the requirement of the uniformity of laws enacted by National Assembly would make it impracticable to make a law to that effect without contravening Islamic guidelines.

What do you consider to be the requirement of Islam for marriage?

maclatunji:

You are giving "LagosShia" positions not that of Islam. What are the requirements for marriage in Islam?

LagosShia:

a girl must be physically mature (seeing her period,her features are ripe,bodily fit to be able to handle a man and in the process childbirth if pregenancy result,and sound health),and also mentally mature (she is educated to some extent and can think for herself to know what is good and bad according to the religion).these are the least requirements.




what are the "positions" that I have given (by rejecting child marriage) that you have not agreed with? please point these "positions" out.

LagosShia:

did Khomeini marry a 9 year old? no he didn't.if he was a pervert,he would have married a 9 year old.but he only married once in his lifetime,even though he could have married many if he wanted,even more than the limit of four.he married his only wife when she was 16 and he was 27.so it is obvious that Ayatollah Khomeini been born in the early 1900s when such marriages existed and having his understanding of morality and procreation,made the law for society (i.e. for others) with good intention (morality and procreation) according to Islamic law,which still requires the girl even if she is 1 year old be physically and mentally mature,and also both the parents' and the girl's consent is required.he didn't create a law to suit his own personal fantasies and selfish desires.your senator you're defending is buying for HIMSELF an Egyptian baby from her parents,after marrying a number of other wives who are almost the age of his baby bride's grandmother.trying to spite me by calling an Islamic scholar (one of the greatest in Islam) a pervert only goes to show how misguided,rude,mannerless and silly you're.

by the way do you care to tell us how old was your mother when your father married/punctured her (because I doubt a child born in of wedlock can be this rude and misguided)? perhaps you're hurt based on your own family experience,so you're out here beating around the bush and throwing words left and right.

LagosShia:

a girl must be physically mature (seeing her period,her features are ripe,bodily fit to be able to handle a man and in the process childbirth if pregenancy result,and sound health),and also mentally mature (she is educated to some extent and can think for herself to know what is good and bad according to the religion).these are the least requiremen

vedaxcool:
lol sonce we are both in agreement that Tetonyerima is a pervert, we must apply your standards to Khomeini behavior, and the result is he is a pervert, Khomeini married a minor by modern Iranian law, further more like yerima, Khomeini permitted marriage with minors something u claimed to be retarded and pervert behavoir , I agree totally, regardless of whether Khomeini benefited from the law or not is neither Here nor there, he is no different from the pervert yerima they are both in agreement that marrying minors is not bad, then again the retards steps of Khomeini is being reenact by the Iranian Parliament filled with perverts like Khomeini, I am simply using your standards to judge things, Khomeini regardless of how you perceive him, remains more knowledgeable that any shia who hears your bantering mright accuse you of being a shia and further doubt whether u were legitimately conceive and further question how old was your mum was when your father had her, officiate this changes nothing, the shiia would then question whether you knew who Khomeini was and why would your standard judge him to be a pervert and retards, hence regardless of how u justify your argument Khomeini and yerima are simply Co travellers on the trip to marrying minors further and followed by the retards of Iranian Parliament. Khomeini could be a shia scholar, to me he just another individual who decisions are binding on shias and opened to my criticism. regardless of your revulsion Khomeini decision attains a higher degree of validity. I can only condemn his decision which I expect u to do if you are truthful as it has set precedence for misguided retards,perverts of the Iranian Parliament to follow. maybe two of us can do a review of his decision to know whether he is worthy of being called a shia scholar.

LagosShia:

"Khomeini" appears 11 times in your short post.

this thread is not about Khomeini who passed away in 1989.it is about a law sponsored by yerima in 2013.

and for your info whether it is Khomeini or in fact the Prophet (sa) himself who married a 9 year old girl,it is wrong and condemnable for someone who is sane and just.be it Khomeini or whoever,i condemn it because there are many 9 year old girls especially in our age and time who do not mature (physically and mentally) to meet the requirements for marriage.if Islam makes a provision for marriage at the youngest age being 9 for girls with conditions,it does not mean marrying girls at 9 should become the norm and law.rather it is the exception and not the rule.and this we witness in many muslim countries.stop hiding behind Khomeini (who married his wife at age 16 as presently 16 is the age of consent in iran) and get sane.why do you think many point out with records to show that Aisha was 16,17 or 21 when the Prophet (sa) married her?

vedaxcool: abi ohhhh , better to shut up than continually.dribble yourself, anyway since u stated your position as being the Islamic position it is only sensible for us to view the major opinion of shia scholar who u claim to follow, well from every indication Khomeini position in this matter is unislamic.

LagosShia:

"Khomeini" appears 11 times in your short post.

this thread is not about Khomeini who passed away in 1989.it is about a law sponsored by yerima in 2013.

and for your info whether it is Khomeini or in fact the Prophet (sa) himself who married a 9 year old girl,it is wrong and condemnable for someone who is sane and just.be it Khomeini or whoever,i condemn it because there are many 9 year old girls especially in our age and time who do not mature (physically and mentally) to meet the requirements for marriage.if Islam makes a provision for marriage at the youngest age being 9 for girls with conditions,it does not mean marrying girls at 9 should become the norm and law.rather it is the exception and not the rule.and this we witness in many muslim countries.stop hiding behind Khomeini (who married his wife at age 16 as presently 16 is the age of consent in iran) and get sane.why do you think many point out with records to show that Aisha was 16,17 or 21 when the Prophet (sa) married her?

yusuf01: Call people to Islam with wisdom, so the Qu'ran says, and Ali (ra) defines wisdom as knowing when to talk and when not to.

I believe this is bad timing, the country is heated enough with the activities of Boko haram and their so-called 'islamic jihad', why bring such a sensitive issue?

And not to talk of the country we live in, in as much as I want shariah to be enacted, we must also understand Nigeria is not an Islamic state yet, we should invite people towards islam with hikmah.

There are lots of things Islam needs right now, this obviously is not one of them in my opinion.

LagosShia:

... and mistake me as the person supporting it.