tdayof:


Nigeria space industry is better than its aviation industry. Nigeria will have such capability in 10 years as plans are already in place but with the help of the Chinese. There's this school here, I think Nanchang or Nanjing as most Nigerians there are on scholarship and on space programs up to PhD level.

My friend 10 years is an utter and complete dream land for Nigeria. Where do you think "it's not rocket science" comes from....it's possibly the most challenging form of engineering.

SA launched rockets travelling over 1200km in the early 90's. Even if all drawings and technical data is removed from storage tomorrow, it would take at least 10 years to launch again. But anyways...that's not to say Nigeria musnt continue with whatever it has going.

ssaengine:


My friend 10 years is an utter and complete dream land for Nigeria. Where do you think "it's not rocket science" comes from....it's possibly the most challenging form of engineering.

SA launched rockets travelling over 1200km in the early 90's. Even if all drawings and technical data is removed from storage tomorrow, it would take at least 10 years to launch again. But anyways...that's not to say Nigeria musnt continue with whatever it has going.

10 years I think was hyped except you'll bring in the Chinese come and do the stuffs in Nigeria. I found a link from CNN where the Nigerian minister of science and technology claimed 2030.


The Director, Centre for Satellite Technology Development (CSTD), Dr. Spencer Onu, has assured stakeholders that Nigeria will develop an indigenous space shuttle satellite by 2030.
According to him, the components needed for the development of the satellite are presently being developed, adding that scientists and engineers at the Centre have capacity to launch made in Nigeria satellite from Nigeria in 2030.

The Nigerian space agency claims to have trained 300 staff to PhD or BsC level, and has ambitious plans to expand the industry, and encourage space programs across the continent.

"The space program is very important," said Dr. Ogbonnaya Onu, Minister of Science and Technology, during a speech in the capital city Abuja. "Space is a major asset that Nigeria must be involved in for the purpose of protecting national interests."


2030 seems to be a nice target. You do not know what Nigeria is doing. Most of our projects are not being publicize like SA. Nigeria space tech has gone far and you can't be too sure of her current capability .

tdayof:


10 years I think was hyped except you'll bring in the Chinese come and do the stuffs in Nigeria. I found a link from CNN where the Nigerian minister of science and technology claimed 2030.




2030 seems to be a nice target. You do not know what Nigeria is doing. Most of our projects are not being publicize like SA. Nigeria space tech has gone far and you can't be too sure of her current capability .

correct
Was searching for that speech

Do you have more about that ISOUNSAT that I showed u some tym back?

tdayof:


10 years I think was hyped except you'll bring in the Chinese come and do the stuffs in Nigeria. I found a link from CNN where the Nigerian minister of science and technology claimed 2030.


The Director, Centre for Satellite Technology Development (CSTD), Dr. Spencer Onu, has assured stakeholders that Nigeria will develop an indigenous space shuttle satellite by 2030.
According to him, the components needed for the development of the satellite are presently being developed, adding that scientists and engineers at the Centre have capacity to launch made in Nigeria satellite from Nigeria in 2030.

The Nigerian space agency claims to have trained 300 staff to PhD or BsC level, and has ambitious plans to expand the industry, and encourage space programs across the continent.

"The space program is very important," said Dr. Ogbonnaya Onu, Minister of Science and Technology, during a speech in the capital city Abuja. "Space is a major asset that Nigeria must be involved in for the purpose of protecting national interests."


2030 seems to be a nice target. You do not know what Nigeria is doing. Most of our projects are not being publicize like SA. Nigeria space tech has gone far and you can't be too sure of her current capability .

The part you aren't understanding is rocketry is as closely monitored as something such as uranium enrichment, because the two go hand in hand. The poison, and it's method of delivery. The only state that can get away with hiding its rocket programme is North Korea, and maybe the likes of Iran.

As soon as any entity passes a rocket motor of certain size, its known about. If Nigeria has developed a rocket engine that can produce say 30 000lb of thrust, everyone would know about it because it would be a technical secret you would be unable to keep. Perhaps 35% of specialised pumps, injectors etc would come from overseas.

And since no 30 000 pounder has been made there so far, if one doesn't get developed within the next 5/6 years, even 2030 wont make it.

Unless plan is to just purchase engines, build around them. Then maybe.

Odunayaw:
correct
Was searching for that speech

Do you have more about that ISOUNSAT that I showed u some tym back?

Indigenous satellite

“The Centre for Satellite Technology Development, CSTD is the key entity behind the much revered achievements of Nigeria’s pet projects to harness its indigenous capacity for satellite technology-building, launching, telemetry, tracking and control of all satellites such as Earth Observation, Communication, Weather, and Scientific Research.” CSTD is Nigeria’s platform that is projecting these activities on the same latitude.

Under the leadership of Dr Spencer Onuh, the Centre has set for itself the target of building an indigenous satellite by 2018. Key to this goal is the current development of an indigenous ‘work in progress’ satellite called Isounsat-1, a Pico satellite, weighing less than 1Kg, for observation of NASRDA space asset, observation of near Earth Object (Debris), and in-house capacity building. The satellite, named after Nigeria’s one time Minister of Science and Technology, Prof. Turner Isoun is expected to be first ever satellite designed and launch in Nigeria.

In addition, Platform for High Altitude Sensors (simply put as PHASE MISSION), is yet another space project initiated to uplift the Nigeria’s space programme. Phase mission is a Balloon project for atmospheric measurement such as temperature, humidity, pressure and other atmospheric parameters thereby boosting the Nigeria’s weather forecasting capacities. Some other innovations are satellites weighing between 1kg-10kg such as Nano satellite, Microsatellite, CubeSat satellite.

tdayof:



Indigenous satellite

“The Centre for Satellite Technology Development, CSTD is the key entity behind the much revered achievements of Nigeria’s pet projects to harness its indigenous capacity for satellite technology-building, launching, telemetry, tracking and control of all satellites such as Earth Observation, Communication, Weather, and Scientific Research.” CSTD is Nigeria’s platform that is projecting these activities on the same latitude.

Under the leadership of Dr Spencer Onuh, the Centre has set for itself the target of building an indigenous satellite by 2018. Key to this goal is the current development of an indigenous ‘work in progress’ satellite called Isounsat-1, a Pico satellite, weighing less than 1Kg, for observation of NASRDA space asset, observation of near Earth Object (Debris), and in-house capacity building. The satellite, named after Nigeria’s one time Minister of Science and Technology, Prof. Turner Isoun is expected to be first ever satellite designed and launch in Nigeria.

In addition, Platform for High Altitude Sensors (simply put as PHASE MISSION), is yet another space project initiated to uplift the Nigeria’s space programme. Phase mission is a Balloon project for atmospheric measurement such as temperature, humidity, pressure and other atmospheric parameters thereby boosting the Nigeria’s weather forecasting capacities. Some other innovations are satellites weighing between 1kg-10kg such as Nano satellite, Microsatellite, CubeSat satellite.

Oshey omo iya

ssaengine:


My friend 10 years is an utter and complete dream land for Nigeria. Where do you think "it's not rocket science" comes from....it's possibly the most challenging form of engineering.

SA launched rockets travelling over 1200km in the early 90's. Even if all drawings and technical data is removed from storage tomorrow, it would take at least 10 years to launch again. But anyways...that's not to say Nigeria musnt continue with whatever it has going.

Some were destroyed.

frumentius:


No, we're not about to embark on any rocket launch programme. We have the capability yes. But maybe if we didn't waste scarce R & D funds on white elephants like the SARA?

SARA is Denel's money

ssaengine:


I'm sorry ...sky

We would have to wait and see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbZBSW_YP4w

Henry240:


For Nigeria, the plan is to launch satellites from the country within the next 10 years. Scientists at Nigeria's space center have been experimenting with propulsion technology for some time now.

The guy who visited stands at Nigeria's just concluded Science and Technology Expo confirms that he saw models of locally made sattelite rocket launcher.

We would have to wait and see, however the Nigerian plan is to build and launch from Nigeria.

Ahmmm


10 years is rather a pie in the sky. When the South Africans had a rocket program in the 80s and early 90s, it involved about 70 companies and about 1300 highly skilled engineers. This is one great engineering fleet that takes some serious funding and skills.

Testing propulsion technology at this day-in-age puts you at least 45 years behind South Africa today.

tdayof:


Nigeria space industry is better than its aviation industry. Nigeria will have such capability in 10 years as plans are already in place but with the help of the Chinese. There's this school here, I think Nanchang or Nanjing as most Nigerians there are on scholarship and on space programs up to PhD level.

space industry yes , algeria also have a space agency (ASAL ) and space industry , last algerian satelitte launched were integrated in algeria , but here we are talking about rocket launchers ,

beside the technological challenge, find another country that helps in development , there is the big politic and military risk to develop such rockets capacity ( for north africa , nigeria) , you have the economic money problem ( for south africa that stopped many programs because lack of money) and not to be viable commercially , even europ USA , use russian soyoz launchers last years to not waste money .

so i dont think any african country will develop this kind of programs , There will be a great military diplomatic risk, a big waste of money for little benifice, so the African countries will rather develop their space industry in the field of satellites and will use indian russian chinese launchers to put their satellites in orbit .

GreenandGold:



Ahmmm


10 years is rather a pie in the sky. When the South Africans had a rocket program in the 80s and early 90s, it involved about 70 companies and about 1300 highly skilled engineers. This is one great engineering fleet that takes some serious funding and skills.

Testing propulsion technology at this day-in-age puts you at least 45 years behind South Africa today.

"Okay".

GreenandGold:



Ahmmm


10 years is rather a pie in the sky. When the South Africans had a rocket program in the 80s and early 90s, it involved about 70 companies and about 1300 highly skilled engineers. This is one great engineering fleet that takes some serious funding and skills.

[s]Testing propulsion technology at this day-in-age puts you at least 45 years behind South Africa today.[/s]

BS! On ordinary propulsion technology? Abeg tell that to someone who has no knowledge about what you're saying.

45 years behind on ordinary propulsion technology? I'm sure you have no first hand knowledge on propulsion for you to type this.

chkil0:


space industry yes , algeria also have a space agency (ASAL ) and space industry , last algerian satelitte launched were integrated in algeria , but here we are talking about rocket launchers ,

beside the technological challenge, find another country that helps in development , there is the big politic and military risk to develop such rockets capacity ( for north africa , nigeria) , you have the economic money problem ( for south africa that stopped many programs because lack of money) and not to be viable commercially , even europ USA , use russian soyoz launchers last years to not waste money .

so i dont think any african country will develop this kind of programs , There will be a great military diplomatic risk, a big waste of money for little benifice, so the African countries will rather develop their space industry in the field of satellites and will use indian russian chinese launchers to put their satellites in orbit .

You make a convincing argument.

tdayof:


BS! On ordinary propulsion technology? Abeg tell that to someone who has no knowledge about what you're saying.

45 years behind on ordinary propulsion technology? I'm sure you have no first hand knowledge on propulsion for you to type this.

I should have said it in layman's term, you're in a league of amateurs when it comes to rocket tech.

You don't have the knowledge and the money to launch into space. If you had to use your own resources it would take roughly decades to get to where South Africa's propulsion technology is today.

Phelindaba (end of story).

kenpaul0:
I dont believe that the JF-17 is better than the F-16....dem no be mate

It's not.

Also, which f16?

Nigeria Police Helicopter Pilot

GreenandGold:


You don't have the knowledge and the money to launch into space. If you had to use your own resources it would take roughly decades to get to where South Africa's propulsion technology is today.

Phelindaba (end of story).

no one can use only its own ressource and start from 0 , same for south african program RSA-3 . It was developed with the assistance of Israel and was essentially identical to the Israeli Jericho missile/Shavit launch vehicle program

ilyushin 76 algerian AF

chkil0:



no one can use only its own ressource and start from 0 , same for south african program RSA-3 . It was developed with the assistance of Israel and was essentially identical to the Israeli Jericho missile/Shavit launch vehicle program

Exactly my point.

No one would transfer that kind of technology to Nigeria, it's not a strategic country so they'll have to do it on their own which may take plenty of resources they don't currently have.

In Kenya University of Nairobi with help from University of Rome developed a nano satelite to be launched in 2018 from Japanese space station..
Its main goal will be for research and as a precursor to Kenya's entry to space technology

It's called 1KUNS - 1st Kenyan University NanoSatellite Precursor Flight, and it's the first proposal for a small satellite developed by an African country, Kenya, selected by the Japanese Space Agency (JAXA) and the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA) to benefit from the opportunity to be launched by the Japanese “Kibo” module in the International Space Station (ISS), as part of the “KiboCube” program (click here).

1KUNS, an extension of “IKUNS - Italian-Kenyan University NanoSatellite”, is a project run by the University of Nairobi in collaboration with “La Sapienza” University of Rome and the Italian Space Agency, and is part of the projects initiated in 2015 between ASI and “La Sapienza” under the Convention for managing activities at the Broglio Space Centre in Malindi (Kenya). IKUNS will involve developing a cubesat for Earth Observation and technological testing.
http://www.asi.it/en/news/1kuns-first-kenyan-cubesat

Kenya government is advancing plan for space research technology and setting up of necessary legislation through parliament for the establishment of a space Center capable of designing and launching satellites, so that by the time it becomes operational, there wont be any geopolitics problems that arise with the UN or major powers, Currently space research is led by a small team in a small department at the Kenya ministry of Defence, but once the plan is done, the Kenya space Agency will become a fully fledged independent institution although it will still be led by MoD scientist (atleast at first) and its first budget will be 100Million dollars for research and Development..

$1 =100 Ksh

Kenya to launch space centre
June-27^th-2015
The country is in the final stages of establishing a space centre, the equivalent of National Aeronautics and Space Administration(NASA) agency, a project that will propel Kenya to the elite club of a few countries in the world that own earth observation satellites. The space centre that is projected to cost to the tune of Sh10 billion for a constellation of earth observation satellites is expected to boost the country's security as well as provide solutions in the agriculture, education and medical sectors. Experts, military and government officials who are spearheading the National Space Policy, Strategy and Space Agency Order have told the Standard that proposals on establishment of a Space centre will be included in the cabinet docket before the end of June. The project is being spearheaded by the Office of the Deputy President and Ministry of Defence with[b] Dr John Kimani (the lead Scientist at the Ministry of Defence), Prof Paul Baki and Prof Hunja Waithaka as the lead scientists.[/b] "This is a major breakthrough for the country in our efforts to ensure that we become a country with a space centre," Dr John Kimani, the lead Scientist at the Ministry of Defence said. If established, the centre will end over three decades wait for a national space policy and strategy since the country opened discussions of establishing a Space Centre in the year 1983. It will also have Kenya transition from a passive user of space and space technologies to a contributor to the development of space technology.
According to scientists, the country is strategically located at a point where it will exhaust the space project for massive economic growth and creation of jobs. "Kenya's strategic outer space includes the geographic location along the equator and bordering the Indian Ocean to its East that facilitates ease of landing of space crafts, tracking of space crafts in space, and ease of access to equatorial orbits, and in particular the geostationary orbit," the Policy order reads. Lilian Abishai, a senior Counsel at the Office of the Attorney General, said that all the necessary legal instruments are being prepared so that the space centre will conform to both local laws and international conventions and treaties. "An Order has been established through which the Space Agency will succeed the National Space Secretariat that is currently under the Ministry of Defence, "she said. Kenya is developing a space centre in its efforts to develop viable home grown space industry and enhance coordination of space related activities by establishing linkages among government agencies and institutions, industry and researchers. The country is expected to spend dozens of billions of shillings if the project is expected to be realized. "It's an expensive industry. You don't put money today and expect results tomorrow," Prof Waithaka told the Standard. Prof Waithaka estimates that a single earth observation satellite will cost about Sh3 billion together with its support systems. Prof O.L.E Mbuthia, a policy expert at the University of Nairobi, says that the costs might look astronomical for the common man but they are a necessity for a country that wants to develop. "People will ask why spend a lot of money in space while little has been done on the ground. They have to be told that scientists have to advance knowledge and this has no limit," Prof Mbuthia says. If the project is realised, the scientists have promised a change of fortunes for the country. " Through space science we can be able to monitor projects like the one million acre Galana project and scientifically establish sections that need watering, track cattle rustlers, train people in remote areas through tele-education and even have doctors pass medical opinions and offer treatment through telemedicine," says Dr Kimani. ......MP Wilberforce Otchillo who was involved in the initial plan for the drafting of a national space policy and strategy said that parliament has already all the motions required for the establishment of the space centre. In 2011, a motion by the Otchillo on motion urging the country to develop a space agency received overwhelming support in parliament.
Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000167230/kenya-to-launch-space-centre

GreenandGold:


I should have said it in layman's term, you're in a league of amateurs when it comes to rocket tech.

[s]You don't have the knowledge and the money to launch into space. If you had to use your own resources it would take roughly decades to get to where South Africa's propulsion technology is today. [/s]

Phelindaba (end of story).

You joke too much.

GreenandGold:



Exactly my point.

No one would transfer that kind of technology to Nigeria , it's not a strategic country so they'll have to do it on their own which may take plenty of resources they don't currently have.

@the bolded You're been pathetic with this your post. It's like you're insinuating that Nigeria is a terrorist or bad country like N/Korea, a rocket/missile in our hand is threat to world. South Africa, Iran, N/Korea and even groups like hamas and hezbollah received or are receiving rocket technologies why do you think Nigeria can get that too Remember N/Korea did offer us missile/rocket technology in past but we decline the offer.

GreenandGold:



Exactly my point.

No one would transfer that kind of technology to Nigeria, it's not a strategic country so they'll have to do it on their own which may take plenty of resources they don't currently have.

This post shows 80% of your posts here are rubbish. I probably did not notice it because I had zero knowledge about them.

I may not be a an expert in space topics but Aero and space share some knowledge so I can talk on some points.
Chkl2 point is that Nigeria can't do it 100% on her own and not that she's not capable of doing it at all.

Nigeria is not 10 years behind propulsion. Elemu oshi.

tdayof:

This post shows 80% of your posts here are rubbish. I probably did not notice it because I had zero knowledge about them.

I may not be a an expert in space topics but Aero and space share some knowledge so I can talk on some points.
Chkl2 point is that Nigeria can't do it 100% on her own and not that she's not capable of doing it at all.

Nigeria is not 10 years behind propulsion. Elemu oshi.

Really?

How many rocket engines you made?

Itnews:
@the bolded You're been pathetic with this your post. It's like you're insinuating that Nigeria is a terrorist or bad country like N/Korea, a rocket/missile in our hand is threat to world. South Africa, Iran, N/Korea and even groups like hamas and hezbollah received or are receiving rocket technologies why do you think Nigeria can get that too Remember N/Korea did offer us missile/rocket technology in past but we decline the offer.

you're forgetting france will do all in it's power if it wants to prevent that kind of technology around it's weak colonies.

a space tech is no child's play. can take decades and is not a technology Nigeria can develop on our own.

These countries you mentioned have partners that see them as interests or proxy.

Don't be surprised North Korea is getting help from china/iran/russia.

India and china took more than 30 years to get to where they are yet they're still far behind

instead of wasting money for an elephant space project we would do well to invest on launching from another country and focus on relevant military projects if we are really serious.

Itnews:
@the bolded You're been pathetic with this your post. It's like you're insinuating that Nigeria is a terrorist or bad country like N/Korea, a rocket/missile in our hand is threat to world. South Africa, Iran, N/Korea and even groups like hamas and hezbollah received or are receiving rocket technologies why do you think Nigeria can get that too Remember N/Korea did offer us missile/rocket technology in past but we decline the offer.

Apartheid South Africa = Israeli strategic friend, exchanged uranium for military technology

Iran = Russian strategic friend against the West

Hezbolla = Iranian strategic friend against Israel

So do you think someone would transfer rocket technology to Nigeria, for what? What strategic influence is Nigeria in the world politics?

patches689:


Really?

How many rocket engines you made?

You lack the ability to comprehend. I said I'm not a space guy.

That's it, you guys just want to comment.

tdayof:

This post shows 80% of your posts here are rubbish. I probably did not notice it because I had zero knowledge about them.

I may not be a an expert in space topics but Aero and space share some knowledge so I can talk on some points.
Chkl2 point is that Nigeria can't do it 100% on her own and not that she's not capable of doing it at all.

Nigeria is not 10 years behind propulsion. Elemu oshi.

No you're not 10 years behind but decades behind.

GreenandGold:



No you're not 10 years behind but decades behind.

Joseph junior. I love your opinion tho, we all know you're entitled to it.

tdayof:
Joseph junior. I love your opinion tho, we all know you're entitled to it.

You're wasting my time.