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NPF,

jln115:

It's not heavy lift !!!

AFs do have their nomenclature but some might say It a heavy lift. Its in the same class as the C 130.

"Capacity: [17]
80 passengers or
64 airborne troops or
6 pallets (68" X 108" or
74 litter patients with 2 medical personnel or
2-3 Humvee and Agrale Marruá or an Astros II MLRS or a LAV III and VBTP-MR Guarani[73]
Cargo compartment: Length 17.75 m X width 3.45 m X height 2.9 m
Payload: 26 tonnes (59,500 lb)
Length: 33.43 m (109 ft, 8 in)
Wingspan: 33.94 m (111 ft,4 in)
Height: 11.43 m (37 ft 6 in)
Loaded weight: 74.0 tonnes (163,142 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 81.0 tonnes (178,574 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × IAE V2500-E5 turbofan, 139.4 kN[74] (31,330 lbf) each
Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 0.8 (470 knots, 850 km/h, 541 mph)
Range: 2,730 nmi (with 14 ton payload)
Range with full payload (distributed): 1,520 nmi (23 tonne payload)
Range with full payload (concentrated): 1,140 nmi (26 tonne payload)
Ferry range: 3,310 nmi (wing fuel), 4,600 nmi (fuselage tanks)
Service ceiling: 36,000 ft (10,973 m)
See also Edit

Related development
Embraer E-Jets
Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
Kawasaki C-2
Airbus A400M
Lockheed Martin C-130J Super Hercules
Tupolev Tu-330
UAC/HAL Il-214
Antonov An-178
References"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_KC-390

jakeporeshenko:

Henry if you ask me... who I go ask ?
As I once said a while ago I am now in a constant state of siddon look, "I cannot come and kill my self".

"You cannot come and go and kill yourself".

I know the feeling, me i don tire. I just want to see a completed Ara. This should be my Nigerian military highlight for 2017. I mean we are already in July.

I'm glad the army is receiving 177 armoured vehicles, if not the first half of 2017 would have been a total disaster.

jakeporeshenko:
Off topic, the world largest proving and testing range just received a new piece of equipment, one I am personally interested in.

might be successor to the Russians terminator

giles14:
might be successor to the Russians terminator

That is the terminator.

Henry240:




"You cannot come and go and kill yourself".

I know the feeling, me i don tire. I just want to see a completed Ara. This should be my Nigerian military highlight for 2017. I mean we are already in July.

I'm glad the army is receiving 177 armoured vehicles, if not the first half of 2017 would have been a total disaster.

Wonder what sultan is waiting for

Henry240:


I'm glad the army is receiving 177 armoured vehicles, if not the first half of 2017 would have been a total disaster.

that 177 APC&LAV HOW I wish it's from Proforce

jakeporeshenko:
Off topic, the world largest proving and testing range just received a new piece of equipment, one I am personally interested in.

The Terminator is an impressive piece of equipment. I remember watching a video of the vehicle letting it's 30mm cannons loose............... Damn, it was impressive!

Syria is a complete and utter mess. All the world powers and Regional powers have had a fill testing out weapons.

jakeporeshenko:
That is the terminator.

syria Don suffer.

Ugandan Air Force Su-30 MK2

jakeporeshenko:

Wonder what sultan is waiting for

Ibnsultaan, what is the problem now?

giles14:
that 177 APC&LAV HOW I wish it's from Proforce

What do you think of the recent Proforce LAV photo i posted?

I was comparing it with the Israeli vehicle used by the Senegalese in Mali, and many other African countries. To be frank, it compares very favourably.

In my opinion, the Nigerian army should buy it for Quick Response Forces.

Henry240:


What do you think of the recent Proforce LAV photo i posted?

I was comparing it with the Israeli vehicle used by the Senegalese in Mali, and many other African countries. To be frank, it compares very favourably.

In my opinion, the Nigerian army should buy it for Quick Response Forces.

they are great.
just hoped that the security apparatus in this country could go for them, so we may have upgrades

bastion Patsas Light Wheeled Armoured Vehicle--Burkina Faso

Armoured Toyota hilux vehicles recently purchased by the Nigerian Air Force for base security.

STANDARD ARMOURING PACKAGE FOR THE TOYOTA HILUX ABOVE

• Protection Level: B6+ ( 7.62 mm x 51 NATO M80 Ball )

( 7.62 mm x 39 mm AK47/56 )

( 5.56 mm x 45 mm SS109 )

• Protection of entire passenger compartment

• High Quality Multi-Layer Bullet Resistant Glass

• Protection for battery and electronic control module

• Blast protection for underbelly

• Wheels: All 5 wheels are fitted with run-flat inserts

• 10 gun ports for the crew with vision block

• Heavy duty suspension system reinforced as necessary to

compensate for additional weight of armour.

As well as the armour package for the vehicle, the tyres if we look closely are also military grade mud and snow tyres with run-flat insert.

This is significantly much better than the Honkers which were procured from Poland. However, there are areas where the Honker has advantages.

- Situational awareness
- Ease of egress and regress

Keeping the armour in some areas, we could have redesigned the vehicle and come up with a design like this.

OH-58D Kiowa Warrior , Tunisian AF

Tunsian army , with tunisian president

kikuyu1:


AFs do have their nomenclature but some might say It a heavy lift. Its in the same class as the C 130.

"Capacity: [17]
80 passengers or
64 airborne troops or
6 pallets (68" X 108" or
74 litter patients with 2 medical personnel or
2-3 Humvee and Agrale Marruá or an Astros II MLRS or a LAV III and VBTP-MR Guarani[73]
Cargo compartment: Length 17.75 m X width 3.45 m X height 2.9 m
Payload: 26 tonnes (59,500 lb)
Length: 33.43 m (109 ft, 8 in)
Wingspan: 33.94 m (111 ft,4 in)
Height: 11.43 m (37 ft 6 in)
Loaded weight: 74.0 tonnes (163,142 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 81.0 tonnes (178,574 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × IAE V2500-E5 turbofan, 139.4 kN[74] (31,330 lbf) each
Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 0.8 (470 knots, 850 km/h, 541 mph)
Range: 2,730 nmi (with 14 ton payload)
Range with full payload (distributed): 1,520 nmi (23 tonne payload)
Range with full payload (concentrated): 1,140 nmi (26 tonne payload)
Ferry range: 3,310 nmi (wing fuel), 4,600 nmi (fuselage tanks)
Service ceiling: 36,000 ft (10,973 m)
See also Edit

Related development
Embraer E-Jets
Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
Kawasaki C-2
Airbus A400M
Lockheed Martin C-130J Super Hercules
Tupolev Tu-330
UAC/HAL Il-214
Antonov An-178
References"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_KC-390

C130 is also not heavy lift......C17,il76, A400m, an70 are heavy lift, although the an70 and A400m are a bit smaller than your true strategic airlift aircraft.

kikuyu1:


AFs do have their nomenclature but some might say It a heavy lift. Its in the same class as the C 130.

"Capacity: [17]
80 passengers or
64 airborne troops or
6 pallets (68" X 108" or
74 litter patients with 2 medical personnel or
2-3 Humvee and Agrale Marruá or an Astros II MLRS or a LAV III and VBTP-MR Guarani[73]
Cargo compartment: Length 17.75 m X width 3.45 m X height 2.9 m
Payload: 26 tonnes (59,500 lb)
Length: 33.43 m (109 ft, 8 in)
Wingspan: 33.94 m (111 ft,4 in)
Height: 11.43 m (37 ft 6 in)
Loaded weight: 74.0 tonnes (163,142 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 81.0 tonnes (178,574 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × IAE V2500-E5 turbofan, 139.4 kN[74] (31,330 lbf) each
Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 0.8 (470 knots, 850 km/h, 541 mph)
Range: 2,730 nmi (with 14 ton payload)
Range with full payload (distributed): 1,520 nmi (23 tonne payload)
Range with full payload (concentrated): 1,140 nmi (26 tonne payload)
Ferry range: 3,310 nmi (wing fuel), 4,600 nmi (fuselage tanks)
Service ceiling: 36,000 ft (10,973 m)
See also Edit

Related development
Embraer E-Jets
Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
Kawasaki C-2
Airbus A400M
Lockheed Martin C-130J Super Hercules
Tupolev Tu-330
UAC/HAL Il-214
Antonov An-178
References"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_KC-390

C130 isnt heavy lift either

jln115:
C130 is also not heavy lift......C17,il76, A400m, an70 are heavy lift, although the an70 and A400m are a bit smaller than your true strategic airlift aircraft.

That's what makes the an70 and A400 so attractive, they full a niche between medium and strategic

Henry240:
Keeping the armour in some areas, we could have redesigned the vehicle and come up with a design like this.

Overkill for base security

What happened to all the Cobras and VBLs?

That's all you need.

All these small scale deals of random stuff... I would be suspicious

patches689:


C130 isnt heavy lift either

Some ,1st world operators, would say it isn't. In Kenya and most of this continent it damn well would be! A400S, An 70s ,Y 20s and other true strategic heavy lifters still being as numerous as unicorns here.

patches689:


Overkill for base security

What happened to all the Cobras and VBLs?

That's all you need.

All these small scale deals of random stuff... I would be suspicious

The Nigerian Air Force and the Nigerian Army are not the same thing.

First think before you make a comment or quote my post.

It is clearly stated to be used for base security. Nothing small or random here, it is well straight forward.

You, making a random comment is the only thing random here.

Henry240:


The Nigerian Air Force and the Nigerian Army are not the same thing.

First think before you make a comment or quote my post.

It is clearly stated to be used for base security. Nothing small or random here, it is well straight forward.

You, making a random comment is the only thing random here.

1. Yes, they arent the same thing. But they are run by the same umbrella organization, and thus, are able to transfer assets between them.

2. The purchase of two vehicles is, factually, small. The purchase of Toyota's when Honkers have been selected is, objectively, random.

Why do you allways try to start fights? Is civil discussion beyond you?

You need to be better.

patches689:


1. Yes, they arent the same thing. But they are run by the same umbrella organization, and thus, are able to transfer assets between them.

2. The purchase of two vehicles is, factually, small. The purchase of Toyota's when Honkers have been selected is, objectively, random.

Why do you allways try to start fights? Is civil discussion beyond you?

You need to be better.

You are a nitwit with no common sense who has simply refused to use his brains to think.

The Nigerian Air Force and the Nigerian Army are two different organisations, with two different budgets. The Nigerian Air Force is responsible for the security of it's bases, it is in no way or form the responsibility of the Nigerian Army.

There is no evidence to support that those are the only vehicles procured by the Nigerian Air Force, this is just another example of your penchant for the display of gross idiocy in the pages of this thread.

The purchase of the vehicles from a Nigerian company is inline with the overall direction which the military is pursing. Baseline Hilux vehicles have always been used for base security, the purchase of the Honker does not negate this fact.

Don't spew random ignorant comments in this thread, especially in posts related to Nigeria.

Henry240:


You are a nitwit with no common sense who has simply refused to use his brains to think.

The Nigerian Air Force and the Nigerian Army are two different organisations, with two different budgets. The Nigerian Air Force is responsible for the security of it's bases, it is in no way or form the responsibility of the Nigerian Army.

There is no evidence to support that those are the only vehicles procured by the Nigerian Air Force, this is just another example of your penchant for the display of gross idiocy in the pages of this thread.

The purchase of the vehicles from a Nigerian company is inline with the overall direction which the military is pursing. Baseline Hilux vehicles have always been used for base security, the purchase of the Honker does not negate this fact.

Don't spew random ignorant comments in this thread, especially in posts related to Nigeria.

1. It is impossible for the Nigerian Army to transfer assets which it has deemed to be unsuitable for combat operations to another branch?

2. The only evidence available suggests exactly that - two vehicles.

3. If the Hilux is the baseline, why buy Honkers?

Dont get vitriolic and insulting, learn to talk to people. Be better.

patches689:


[s]1. It is impossible for the Nigerian Army to transfer assets which it has deemed to be unsuitable for combat operations to another branch?

2. The only evidence available suggests exactly that - two vehicles.

3. If the Hilux is the baseline, why buy Honkers?

Dont get vitriolic and insulting, learn to talk to people. Be better. [/s]

Stop spamming my mentions.

Henry240:


Stop spamming my mentions.

Stop behaving like a poorly socialized child.

After-all, you are the one replying.