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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:58am On Jun 26, 2016
nemesis2u:


i remember reading somewhere Egypt , s.africa , Algeria want to buy it.
though not sure on the authenticity of that news.

also was going through Russian blogs , the guys there were saying brahmos against heavily defended targets like aircraft carriers uses the wolf pack mode ie they communicate among themselves and attack in a swarm.
therefor i wonder maybe this is the reason behind the unusual heavy load-out (16 missiles) of brahmos in the new Indian destroyers. otherwise worldwide 8 surface to surface missiles r generally carried.
considering that most modern naval ship defence systems continue being upgraded and also most of them have multiple canister Vertical Launching System with surface to air missiles,you need to increase your chances of success

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:12am On Jun 26, 2016
off topic:russia doesn't give a f@ck ,russia SPBE submunitions dropped in Aleppo,syria

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT95pS2Sr2o
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:11am On Jun 26, 2016
africaken254:
it is the S-300/S-400 of anti-ship missiles and with the latest in development Hypersonic Zircon (speed of mach 5 and 6)america is nowhere to be seen in this category

russia is a step ahead due to its already operational systems in the supersonic cruise missile category plus Zircon is undergoing developmental tests.

however to be fair, us is doing lots of research and developing supersonic and hypersonic cruise missile ie rattlrs and X-51 based on waverider concept. however it is lagging due to its lack of experience and lack of operational doctrine on operating such high speed missiles.

[img]http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getAsset.aspx?ItemID=13403[/img]
rattlrs (revolutionary approach to time critical long range strike)


x 51 wave rider

interesting thing is hypersonic brahmos 2 is also based on wave rider concept . so it is plausible that zircon will share the same looks as that of brahmos 2 since brahmos 2 is speculated to be a direct derivative of Hypersonic Zircon with Indian software and other tweaks just like brahmos.

[img]http://militaryrussia.ru/i/284/688/uyphh.jpg[/img]

[img]http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35303.0;attach=596620;image[/img]
Indian scramjet engine mounted on a rocket undergoing developmental test flight.
India is is going to test better optimized version of scramjet engine within next 2-4 months in support of brahmos 2 ,HSTDV, Two Stage To Orbit (TSTO) spacecraft.

i am linking this article which i wrote in the science section of nairaland , hope some may find it useful

https://www.nairaland.com/3023184/extreme-military-engineering-fascinating-facts/2#44349793
on page 2

lastly i apologize for derailing the thread, i realized it just now
so i hope u will excuse me this time
regards.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:19am On Jun 26, 2016
nemesis2u:






lastly i apologize for derailing the thread, i realized it just now
so i hope u will excuse me this time
regards.

Please provide links only. This is a purely photo-thread, with a bit OFF-TOPIC posts to make it interesting, that post is too long. Provide links next time. Thank you
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:51am On Jun 26, 2016
Henry240:


Please provide links only. This is a purely photo-thread, with a bit OFF-TOPIC posts to make it interesting, that post is too long. Provide links next time. Thank you

thank you for pointing it out,
i modified my post

regards
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 9:04am On Jun 26, 2016
Henry240:


Light Utility Helicopters are just as important as the MI-17, nobody is going to sell you a Black Hawk. 10 units are enough to hold a party over.


They are an important Recon, SAR, Scout, armed helicopter.
yea I knw,wot am saying is for QRF d mi17 would be good n for recon ,scout n armed escort d ec145 N dolphin choppers will do.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:59am On Jun 26, 2016
giles14:
yea I knw,wot am saying is for QRF d mi17 would be good n for recon ,scout n armed escort d ec145 N dolphin choppers will do.

The Dauphin carries 12, so 2 Dauphin helicopters would carry 24 troops. That's enough capacity to deploy QRF. The Dauphin provides the best of both worlds.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:03am On Jun 26, 2016
Nigerian Navy Agusta A109 helicopters been fitted with FLIR POD


Nigerian Air Force MI-17 mounted with some un-identified POD.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 11:54am On Jun 26, 2016
Henry240:
Nigerian Navy Agusta A109 helicopters been fitted with FLIR POD


Nigerian Air Force MI-17 mounted with some un-identified POD.
Is this Augustus Helicopter a fighter copter? BTW, where is Auguastus?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:57am On Jun 26, 2016
Xbee007:
Is this Augustus Helicopter a fighter copter? BTW, where is Auguastus?

It is a utility helicopter. It can be armed with rockets, 50.Cal and missiles if a customer wants. Similar to what Indonesia and Malaysia have.


It can perform a wide variety of roles.


The Nigerian Navy has 5 Agusta A109 helicopters, 4 Bell 412 and 2 Agusta AW139s in service.


The Air Force has 12 AW109s in service.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stephandeswardt: 12:55pm On Jun 26, 2016
Henry240:


It is a utility helicopter. It can be armed with rockets, 50.Cal and missiles if a customer wants. Similar to what Indonesia and Malaysia have.


It can perform a wide variety of roles.


The Nigerian Navy has 5 Agusta A109 helicopters, 4 Bell 412 and 2 Agusta AW139s in service.


The Air Force has 12 AW109s in service.


Nigerian navy sbs and Nigerian defence joint maritime. ....are currently undergoing selections......it might interest you to know that last year.....Nigeria trained 3 Ghanaians to become sbs qualified. .....this year they sent 10......waiting to see how many will make it........ sbs also uses the m4-cqbr apart fromy the t-21 ......
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:11pm On Jun 26, 2016
kenya air force at 50th year anniversary documentary

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEYXKqu5R0s
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:28pm On Jun 26, 2016
africaken254:
maybe or they will continue using some of its MI-171 and SA 330 Puma helicopters(most of them are nearing their end of their life span) ,what they seriously need is a utility transport air craft .i believe most of our DHC-5 Buffalo are retire or seriously unairworthy (bought them back in the 70's)
i forgot we are supposed to receive five Bell UH-1H II (Huey II) Helicopters to add to our helicopter fleet https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=623700acffa19febc1b5a84026debd2e&tab=core&
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 2:47pm On Jun 26, 2016
nemesis2u:
Off-topic found this while browsing youtube


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thZy2-yCl6g

nice addition to SU 30 series fighters

supersonic 300-600km stand off munition is no joke shocked shocked grin

did some more searching and found this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNG86VSld3s

bulls eye accuracy at 1 minute and 2.25 minute
ship sunk by single hit at 2.45 minute shocked awesome cheesy

but the missile is expensive
Seriously expensive.

I'm even surprised there's talk of us acquiring them.

Marketing. No weapon is perfect. But this is a jewel among cruise missiles.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jun 26, 2016
MikeCZA:
Seriously expensive.

I'm even surprised there's talk of us acquiring them.

Marketing. No weapon is perfect. But this is a jewel among cruise missiles.

I just feel so much pity for Pakistani ships and surface vessels.


No weapon is perfect, but the BrahMos pushes the boundaries of perfection.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 3:46pm On Jun 26, 2016
Henry240:


I just feel so much pity for Pakistani ships and surface vessels.


No weapon is perfect, but the BrahMos pushes the boundaries of perfection.
Don't mention that country or else we'll have a flood of people in this thread telling us Paki...n's strategy is that of killing/sinking the foe's warships before they can launch the missiles with submarines.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:41pm On Jun 26, 2016
India and Russia have reached an agreement to launch export BrahMos missiles

India and Russia will organize delivery of BrahMos anti-ship missiles to the United Arab Emirates, Vietnam, South Africa and Chile, according to The Financial Express. Negotiations with other countries, which include the Philippines, South Korea, Algeria, Greece, Malaysia, Thailand, Egypt, Singapore, Venezuela and Bulgaria have now moved to a new level.

source : https://news.rambler.ru/business/33751038/

India and Russia ready to supply the missile BrahMos

India and Russia are ready to begin deliveries of the joint supersonic cruise missile BrahMos to the UAE, Chile and Vietnam. With reference to the press-secretary of the company-developer of BrahMos Aerospace Corp. Praveen Pathak, negotiations with potential buyers missiles "are at an advanced stage." In addition, he said, discussing the possibility of export of missiles to the Philippines, and South Korea, Algeria, Greece, Malaysia, Thailand, Egypt, Singapore, Venezuela and Bulgaria. According to him, the closest to the signing of a contract for the supply of missiles is the UAE. Roughly, it can be concluded before the end of this year.

source : rusplt ru

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:37pm On Jun 26, 2016
you see african countries have the brainpower, actually every country has the brainpower, problem lies with its utilization, lack of policy, lack of a roadmap , government support etc.

to develop something from scratch is like re inventing the wheel.
best idea is to tie up with friendly countries like Russia , china , France , USA , south Korea Israel etc depending on your comfort level with any of these following countries,

for starters no need to go for something big, main aim should be to develop the human resources of your countries in the core sectors related to defense like metallurgy , semiconductor technology , composites , aeronautical technology , system integration and management , optronics etc in cooperation with the above countries.

once you have the labs and testing centers together with a well trained man power then you are well set to bargain with the countries like Russia china USA to co-develop advance weapon systems which in turn will provide you with better skills and most importantly develop productionizing capabilities. R & D for developing a weapon is a big headache, but productionizing (commercializing) and enforcing quality control is a bigger headache .

what African countries need is a staggered long term road-map and you need to stick to it no matter what, and someday you will be setting benchmarks. wink wink smiley

a curious example is India , with LCA , ARJUN still painfully grinding on it looks like they are the stupidest people on earth. grin
however a closer look will tell you a different story.
the infrastructure and R & D labs and trained manpower they built up due to these never ending projects has started to bear fruits albeit in small amounts for now.
they are now in a position to demand equal participation and develop relevant technologies according to their own needs and terms in close cooperation with other advance countries, and not just end up in a buyer seller relationship.

it might surprise you all that Russia and France are competing to provide technology for Indian SSN.
why ? because India has a working indigenous baby SSBN grin arihant (with certain Russian inputs).
so whats the point in denying technology when they might do it on their own someday.

failures will always be there but one must try, also one must have in-house technical industrial base and human resources to absorb any TOT being offered only then can one develop ones indigenous defense capability .


its time to think african, ( lets hash tag it lol )
one small step at a time towards the big step.

hope i made sense
regards.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:55pm On Jun 26, 2016
IPSTC is an independent Eastern African research, training and education centre in Eastern Africa that is responsive to peace operations training and education needs of the African Peace and Security Architecture.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW7fw9QFp3w

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 6:11pm On Jun 26, 2016
chkil:
India and Russia have reached an agreement to launch export BrahMos missiles

India and Russia will organize delivery of BrahMos anti-ship missiles to the United Arab Emirates, Vietnam, South Africa and Chile, according to The Financial Express. Negotiations with other countries, which include the Philippines, South Korea, Algeria, Greece, Malaysia, Thailand, Egypt, Singapore, Venezuela and Bulgaria have now moved to a new level.

source : https://news.rambler.ru/business/33751038/



source : rusplt ru
Are we getting two missiles? grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:51pm On Jun 26, 2016
nemesis2u:
hope i made sense regards.

Sure you did, where are you from, country?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:13pm On Jun 26, 2016
nemesis2u:

its time to think african, ( lets hash tag it lol )
one small step at a time towards the big step.

hope i made sense
regards.



I can say what we in Nigeria require is the commitment from the Nigerian government to buy local, and big Nigerian industry players to grow interest in the business of arms. When this two forces come together, we would now seem a lot more activity in the business of defence.


For now we have Proforce defence, a company producing armoured vehicles similar to the range of vehicles Streit group has on offer, and a couple defence surveillance, vessel building, ICT centered companies and body armour manufacturing.


The Igirigi is our first commercially produced vehicle, looking forward to september-November of this year, we expect to see more vehicles from Proforce for the military and law enforcement.


They are quite insignificant considering the size of Nigeria, but are important steps moving forward nonetheless.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 7:13pm On Jun 26, 2016
nemesis2u:
you see african countries have the brainpower, actually every country has the brainpower, problem lies with its utilization, lack of policy, lack of a roadmap , government support etc.

to develop something from scratch is like re inventing the wheel.
best idea is to tie up with friendly countries like Russia , china , France , USA , south Korea Israel etc depending on your comfort level with any of these following countries,

for starters no need to go for something big, main aim should be to develop the human resources of your countries in the core sectors related to defense like metallurgy , semiconductor technology , composites , aeronautical technology , system integration and management , optronics etc in cooperation with the above countries.

once you have the labs and testing centers together with a well trained man power then you are well set to bargain with the countries like Russia china USA to co-develop advance weapon systems which in turn will provide you with better skills and most importantly develop productionizing capabilities. R & D for developing a weapon is a big headache, but productionizing (commercializing) and enforcing quality control is a bigger headache .

what African countries need is a staggered long term road-map and you need to stick to it no matter what, and someday you will be setting benchmarks. wink wink smiley

a curious example is India , with LCA , ARJUN still painfully grinding on it looks like they are the stupidest people on earth. grin
however a closer look will tell you a different story.
the infrastructure and R & D labs and trained manpower they built up due to these never ending projects has started to bear fruits albeit in small amounts for now.
they are now in a position to demand equal participation and develop relevant technologies according to their own needs and terms in close cooperation with other advance countries, and not just end up in a buyer seller relationship.

it might surprise you all that Russia and France are competing to provide technology for Indian SSN.
why ? because India has a working indigenous baby SSBN grin arihant (with certain Russian inputs).
so whats the point in denying technology when they might do it on their own someday.

failures will always be there but one must try, also one must have in-house technical industrial base and human resources to absorb any TOT being offered only then can one develop ones indigenous defense capability .


its time to think african, ( lets hash tag it lol )
one small step at a time towards the big step.

hope i made sense
regards.


Socio-economy and corruption.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:32pm On Jun 26, 2016
Henry240:


Sure you did, where are you from, country?

sir in this forum consider me as an African grin

or at least a wannabe African grin grin

it is nice to role play sometimes (not the k##ky things lol wink wink )
broadens the horizon.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:56pm On Jun 26, 2016
Henry240:


I can say what we in Nigeria require is the commitment from the Nigerian government to buy local, and big Nigerian industry players to grow interest in the business of arms. When this two forces come together, we would now seem a lot more activity in the business of defence.


For now we have Proforce defence, a company producing armoured vehicles similar to the range of vehicles Streit group has on offer, and a couple defence surveillance, vessel building, ICT centered companies and body armour manufacturing.


The Igirigi is our first commercially produced vehicle, looking forward to september-November of this year, we expect to see more vehicles from Proforce for the military and law enforcement.


They are quite insignificant considering the size of Nigeria, but are important steps moving forward nonetheless.

correct, as a Nigerian u would know the best about Nigerian defense industry.

u must have heard of "man in the loop" its a military term.

what is required is "end user in the loop"
end user here is the military.

when a defense company develops a product the end user must be involved at all levels of develop , specially important for companies trying to compete against international competition. it will shorten the developmental time period , allow the scientists and technicians to incorporate the end user requirements in a case by case manner duly vetted by the military at every critical developmental stage, allow practical user end recommendations to be factored in much earlier , allows early fault rectification while saving time and money among others.

end result u will have a system designed and developed by scientists and technicians but vetted, nurtured and owned by the end user (military) from the conception stage to its production stage.
then the end user will fight tooth and nail against the government for its procurement , which i don't think will be necessary at all in the first place.

grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:46pm On Jun 26, 2016
nemesis2u:


sir in this forum consider me as an African grin

or at least a wannabe African grin grin

it is nice to role play sometimes (not the k##ky things lol wink wink )
broadens the horizon.

We have Nigerians, South-Africans, Namibians, Kenyans, Ghanaians, a Zimbabwean, an Algerian, a Pakistani and a Chinese.


Maybe you're American, European or Israeli, say you ask you ask me a question, i'll answer the question based on my experience as a Nigerian. It gives a context to the answer given.


So, i humbly insist..... Don't be shygringrin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by pacretus(m): 8:55pm On Jun 26, 2016
MikeCZA:
Socio-economy and corruption.
don't no why we africans are so quick at using the word corruption''.
Corruption isn't and has never be the problem of africa not even good policies.But our major challenge has always been lack of entrepreneural mindset for the people and a visionless govt.(forget about vision 2020 or whatever).
Was watching a program on CCTV and saw some young chinese college students coming together to build their own business.
Why can't we do same here in africa.
Every country is corrupt as long humans are their leaders.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by pacretus(m): 9:04pm On Jun 26, 2016
Henry240:


We have Nigerians, South-Africans, Namibians, Kenyans, Ghanaians, a Zimbabwean, an Algerian, a Pakistani and a Chinese.


Maybe you're American, European or Israeli, say you ask you ask me a question, i'll answer the question based on my experience as a Nigerian. It gives a context to the answer given.


So, i humbly insist..... Don't be shygringrin
he sounds like one guy from beegeagles blog,not a nigerian dO.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Seened: 9:16pm On Jun 26, 2016
cheesy Our friend from Hindustan is here. Nemesis2u is L****t? If so I say to you: Welcome friend. grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:24pm On Jun 26, 2016
Algeria will receive 14 more sukhoi 30 MKA in 2017 , we will have 60 of them in service

pic 2 , algerian Su30 MKA with SAP-518 wingtip jamming pod and the Kh-31P air-to-surface and anti radar missile (110 km range)

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 9:28pm On Jun 26, 2016
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