********Of course Femen will stay quiet on this brutality against a Muslim woman attacked merely for being Muslim and wearing the hijab because they are hypocrites.*****

STOCKHOLM (AP) — Scores of Swedish women from various faiths have posted pictures of themselves online wearing hijabs, or traditional Muslim headscarves, to show solidarity with a Muslim woman who was attacked in a Stockholm suburb for wearing one.

Police spokesman Ulf Hoffman says an unknown assailant attacked the pregnant woman in the suburb of Farsta on Friday by banging her head against a car.

Hoffman said the man shouted slurs which have led police to believe the attack was motivated by the woman's religion.

Among the women posting photos in headscarves on the social network site Twitter Monday was Green Party leader Asa Romson and Social Democrat lawmaker Veronica Palm.

The initiative's organizers say they want to raise awareness of the harassment women wearing headscarves face in Sweden.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/19/swedes-don-headscarves-to-support-muslim-victim/2670739/

Sad but interesting news.

There is a difference between those who are consistent in their defence of injustice and those who have an "approved crimes list"
The latter don't see anything wrong in attacks on Muslims
Prof Akintola made the point that Nigerian "Human Rights Activists" never defend Muslims
It got me thinking
The activists outside Nigerian defend all manners of people/causes - animals, fa..ots, silly speech etc
But they are consistent
In Nigeria, I first noticed that the most vocal activists support the anti-gay bill
BTW I cannot stand those homosick, but not supporting the gays pointed to the bias of the activists towards religion
So, which religion?
You can work it out - they rushed to the Senate over underage brides
When a Muslim girl of the same age or even less is maliciously caned, a pall of silence descends!
Yet they support the law against corporeal punishment

Kudos to the swedish women.

About the Nigerian activists, Majority of them are politically motivated.

At other times, they just want to be noticed.

I could sum it up to mean that they are not in it for humanity but for the fame and sometimes monetary benefits.




There is the general saying that the feminists out there treat their maids in the worst of manner. You then wonder whether the maids are lesser humans or not feminine enough

^LOL

How did this thread turn into an attack on Nigerian human rights activists?

Please, we should focus on praising the Swedish non-muslims and muslims who joined effort to campaign for justice for the crime against the muslim woman in Sweden.

deols: Kudos to the swedish women.

About the Nigerian activists, Majority of them are politically motivated.

At other times, they just want to be noticed.

I could sum it up to mean that they are not in it for humanity but for the fame and sometimes monetary benefits.




There is the general saying that the feminists out there treat their maids in the worst of manner. You then wonder whether the maids are lesser humans or not feminine enough

Nairatalks: How did this thread turn into an attack on Nigerian human rights activists?

Please, we should focus on praising the Swedish non-muslims and muslims who joined effort to campaign for justice for the crime against the muslim woman in Sweden.

Thanks
We were just pointing out that activists here whose voice ring loudest (in our NASS) should borrow a leaf from this
Nigerian public policy is hardly going to be shaped by some activists in Sweden, but by the pressure of our local "Human" rights campaigners

deols:
There is the general saying that the feminists out there treat their maids in the worst of manner. You then wonder whether the maids are lesser humans or not feminine enough

Interesting
It is certainly easy to criticise but hard to take it

BetaThings:
Interesting
It is certainly easy to criticise but hard to take it

Not interesting. It is False. Deols should explain where she found numerous feminists treating maids in the worst manner. Maybe she thinks that many people in the west even have maids like we do in Africa.


This is how falsehoods spread.

Deols is someone that speaks before checking facts. I always try to avoid personal comments but it is hard for me to see people agreeing with false things and keep silent

BetaThings:
Thanks
We were just pointing out that activists here whose voice ring loudest (in our NASS) should borrow a leaf from this
Nigerian public policy is hardly going to be shaped by some activists in Sweden, but by the pressure of our local "Human" rights campaigners

I see

Nairatalks:


Not interesting. It is False. Deols should explain where she found numerous feminists treating maids in the worst manner. Maybe she thinks that many people in the west even have maids like we do in Africa.

And their staff? The activists are not necessarily tolerant of criticism
See how someone sacks and talks to his staff
http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/08/14/aols-chief-demonstrates-the-worst-way-to-fire-someone/

In Africa men hardly molest their maids as much as the women do. They burn them, disfigure them (look around NL for examples)
I know somebody running an NGO for women in Nigeria.
Her attitude towards her staff is so crude I wonder how the compassion required for the oppressed (her NGO) can co-exist with so much bile

BetaThings:
And their staff? The activists are not necessarily tolerant of criticism
See how someone sacks and talks to his staff
http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/08/14/aols-chief-demonstrates-the-worst-way-to-fire-someone/

In Africa men hardly molest their maids as much as the women do. They burn them, disfigure them (look around NL for examples)
I know somebody running an NGO for women in Nigeria.
Her attitude towards her staff is so crude I wonder how the compassion required for the oppressed (her NGO) can co-exist with so much bile

Are the people you listed feminists?

BetaThings:
And their staff? The activists are not necessarily tolerant of criticism
See how someone sacks and talks to his staff
http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/08/14/aols-chief-demonstrates-the-worst-way-to-fire-someone/

In Africa men hardly molest their maids as much as the women do. They burn them, disfigure them (look around NL for examples)
I know somebody running an NGO for women in Nigeria.
Her attitude towards her staff is so crude I wonder how the compassion required for the oppressed (her NGO) can co-exist with so much bile

Nairatalks:


Not interesting. It is False. Deols should explain where she found numerous feminists treating maids in the worst manner. Maybe she thinks that many people in the west even have maids like we do in Africa.


This is how falsehoods spread.
Deols is someone that speaks before checking facts. I always try to avoid personal comments but it is hard for me to see people agreeing with false things and keep silent

But I was obviously talking of Africa. Nigeria, precisely.

Of course you know that there cannot be a data to back my claim up. Do we even have a cancer registry or a correct statistics on domestic violence? It took an aljazera for us to realise what percentage of bleachers are in Nigeria.

But I have attended programs on Gender issues. I have been to conferences on the female child blah blah blahs I have known the participants before and after. So I know very well that not all are in it for the general good.

Now about the subject matter, which is about Nigerian activists being silent on the affairs of Muslims. How many of them did you hear of when that Muslim girl was beat by her school principal?

And how many of them sprang up against Yerima?

Isnt it already clear that they only took advantage of an explosive situation?



Now after all the cries over the internet, how many of the activists have come up with a solution to the issue of child marriage. How many of them have simply gone back to their 'e no concern me' typical state?.

deols:

But I was obviously talking of Africa. Nigeria, precisely.

Of course you know that there cannot be a data to back my claim up. Do we even have a cancer registry or a correct statistics on domestic violence? It took an aljazera for us to realise what percentage of bleachers are in Nigeria.

But I have attended programs on Gender issues. I have been to conferences on the female child blah blah blahs I have known the participants before and after. So I know very well that not all are in it for the general good.

Now about the subject matter, which is about Nigerian activists being silent on the affairs of Muslims. How many of them did you hear of when that Muslim girl was beat by her school principal?

And how many of them sprang up against Yerima?

Isnt it already clear that they only took advantage of an explosive situation?



Now after all the cries over the internet, how many of the activists have come up with a solution to the issue of child marriage. How many of them have simply gone back to their 'e no concern me' typical state?.

First of all, accusing feminists of generally maltreating their maids and criticising child bride activists are two different things.

Not all women activists are feminists.

Be mature and admit that you told a lie about feminists.


When you admit the lie, then we can discuss the issue about Yerima and the hijab issue

Selective rrasoning abi what can I call it?
Below is what I wrote

There is the general saying that the feminists out there treat their maids in the worst of manner. You then wonder whether the maids are lesser humans or not feminine enough

I wasn't saying all feminists do it but that people say so..

I further told you that I cldnt bring forth statistics but that I have seen it happen.


I really dont care on whether you want to talk more on the other issues. They are as clear as daylight.

deols: Selective rrasoning abi what can I call it?
Below is what I wrote



I wasn't saying all feminists do it but that people say so..

I further told you that I cldnt bring forth statistics but that I have seen it happen.


I really dont care on whether you want to talk more on the other issues. They are as clear as daylight.

Which general saying? A general saying among people who peddle falsehoods or what?

Which people?


Do you even know what a feminist is?

^^lol about knowing whom a feminist is. I was almost recruited you know?


I still believe in some of their views. I draw the line where religion comes in

^^^^
Salaam
I see no benefit in you trying to explain your position. The guy is a tad aggressive and he will not listen
As soon as somebody is asking some elementary questions about what I know, I just ignore.
We all know so little, but somebody who might even be lower down may be the one bringing up the issue of ignorance

This thread is about hijab issue. Why would discussing it be linked to your doing anything
The thread is also about activists standing up to women discriminated against because of religion
Why is it not relevant? why are our activists/feminists not doing the same for Muslim women
Infact I recall Joe Okei-Odumakin of CLO casting aspersons on women in hijab/niqab

Why? Because Lai Mohammed of ACN (while contesting the last Ondo State gov election with Labour Party and PDP) pointed out that it was wrong for Joe Odumakin to be criticising ACN since her husband (Mr Odumakin) was working with Labour Party
Sounded straight forward to me
But Joe Odumakin said that her husband work does not affect her views and work because she is not a woman in "purdah" dominated by her husband

Now we know that Patience Johnathan/Michele Obama do not use niqab. But have they not given up their careers for their husbands' political interests?
And in law, a woman might be assumed to be "unduly influenced" by her husband. Meaning that she might be presumed not to have taken decisions affecting her husband (eg guaranteeing his loan) without pressure.

deols: ^^lol about knowing whom a feminist is. I was almost recruited you know?


I still believe in some of their views. I draw the line where religion comes in

How can one be recruited to be a feminist? It would be like saying one was recruited to be a conservative. Like I said, it is possible that you dont know what a feminist is


I have seen this before. There are "top dogs" on this section who can make false claims and then when another muslim challenges the false claim, the followers gang up against the muslim who simply challenges the false claim.



Betathings, keep lending your support to falsehoods.


This claim is false;

deols:
There is the general saying that the feminists out there treat their maids in the worst of manner. You then wonder whether the maids are lesser humans or not feminine enough

Nairatalks: I have seen this before. There are "top dogs" on this section who can make false claims and then when another muslim challenges the false claim, the followers gang up against the muslim who simply challenges the false claim.

I have suddenly realised that there is more to this claim of being amongst the earliest muslims

deols:
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Is anyone thinking what I am thinking that nairatalk may not be a Muslim. He could be logicboy, pretending to be a Muslim
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Accept Islam, work your way to the top and we would suck up to you
Right?

Nairatalks:
Betathings, keep lending your support to falsehoods.

Yes Sir, the-only-truth-teller-in-town
Virtually everything you claim here to be is false, and yet you accuse people

BetaThings: ^^^^
Salaam
I see no benefit in you trying to explain your position. The guy is a tad aggressive and he will not listen
As soon as somebody is asking some elementary questions about what I know, I just ignore.
We all know so little, but somebody who might even be lower down may be the one bringing up the issue of ignorance

I stopped explaining that position actually or isnt that about some feminists being not so good beyond their feminist propaganda?


I am not here to convince him on my position. If he genuinely deserves to be explained to, I would. If not, my discretion.

This is too funny.

Keep up with the deflection and personal attacks. I guess that I am not a muslim because i dont agree with Deols.

Nairatalks:



How can one be recruited to be a feminist?

By an attempt at indoctrinating them and giving them tools that enable the movement. Like I said above, I owe you no explanation. You can agree or not, it doesn't change what has been said that many of the activists in Nigeria are not driven by humanity. They are more for selfish reasons and are bias along religious/ethnic divides.

Nairatalks:








This claim is false;

So the problem now is your comprehension problem.

I said there is a general saying that...

Do people say it, yes.

Have I heard it on several occasions, yes.

Even on this forum, yes.

That you haven't or just would not agree to it does not make it false.

Nairatalks: This is too funny.

Keep up with the deflection and personal attacks. I guess that I am not a muslim because i dont agree with Deols.

I would be ashamed of myself if my utterances are judged as not from a Muslim. I would actually be depressed and rethink my religion. I would have an introspection and try to see what I have been doing wrong.

You are mentally creating your own enemies and giving reasons for it. Could it be that this isn't about deols but about your utterances and belief?

To escape from seeing your fault, you are trying to pass it off to other people.

Think or try harder, 'is the way I think how a muslim should?' Then, become a better Muslim or at least, actress.

deols:

I would be ashamed of myself if my utterances are judged as not from a Muslim. I would actually be depressed and rethink my religion. I would have an introspection and try to see what I have been doing wrong.

You are mentally creating your own enemies and giving reasons for it. Could it be that this isn't about deols but about your utterances and belief?

To escape from seeing your fault, you are trying to pass it off to other people.

Think or try harder, 'is the way I think how muslim does it?' Then, become a better Muslim or actress.

This is even getting funnier.

Muslims shouldnt lie. Anyone could see that you told a lie about feminists. Yet, you are somehow insinuating that I should rethink my faith.


You claimed that there is some general saying about feminists, which is nowhere to be heard or found. And if even there was a saying, should you repeat it without fact checking?


This is my last post here. I dont want to be hounded by your followers.

Goodbye

Like logicboy does, she runs away. Logic runs even from his own threads.

I assume only Islam teaches against lying.

Come back when off the deols phobia.

Lol.

@topic what else is there to say? Muslims should also get involved with human rights activism. We should not speak only when it deals with us.

Nairatalks: This is too funny.

Keep up with the deflection and personal attacks. I guess that I am not a muslim because i dont agree with Deols.

Accept Islam and stop running around your destiny
Anybody on NL will not matter to you on the day of Qiyama

Nairatalks:
This is my last post here. I dont want to be hounded by your followers.

Goodbye

Hounded?
Anyway check out the hadith of the person who had himself cremated

Logicboy again!!

deols:


I stopped explaining that position actually or isnt that about some feminists being not so good beyond their feminist propaganda?


I am not here to convince him on my position. If he genuinely deserves to be explained to, I would. If not, my discretion.

There's a general saying that most muslims are terrorists that would terrorize women of other faiths for not wearing hijab.