KA24DETT: Altima is cheaper, no timing belt to replace.

elektra80:
So the maintenance of a car now relies on timing belt or chain? If u don't know something its better not to say anything. The 2005 Honda accord I4 uses timing chain while the V6 uses timing belt. The timing belt is only changed around 100k miles. Timing chains need to be changed too but not at a particular mileage as it lasts longer, it costs a lot more to change than timing chain and u have to change the tensioners too.

KA24DETT:

Thats a very high maintenance item, thats why i noted that. Dont ever come to me when it comes to car talk. U are not and i repeat, not in my league.
In all , Honda can never and i repeat, never build a reliably auto transmission. They not good at it . It was so bad that the switched over to CVT in 2008. Buying a honda accord 2005, hope and pray the transmission dont give up on you.
There are other factors that determine the reliability of a car. Everything being equal, i will take the altima any day.

KA24DETT:

Thats a very high maintenance item, thats why i noted that.[/b] Dont ever come to me when it comes to car talk. U are not and i repeat, not in my league. [b]
In all , [/b]Honda can never and i repeat, never build a reliably auto transmission[b]. [/b]They not good at it . It was so bad that the switched over to CVT in 2008[b]. Buying a honda accord 2005, hope and pray the transmission dont give up on you.
There are other factors that determine the reliability of a car. Everything being equal, i will take the altima any day.

KA24DETT: Honda build amazing manual transmission. Shift action is amazing.
What's the mileage on the car because that would determine if you have to start saving for a clutch replacement downt the road .
Because the car is a manual transmission , it would be very good on gas and more reliable than the auto transmission.
If you don't have a problem driving shift, I would advice it over the automatic anyway

icemann:

First of all you need to learn and apply the term called humility
Second you said honda "can never build a reliable transmission". Like you know the future of the car company. Do you even know how a transmission works?

Thirdly you dont even know when honda switched the accord transmission to a CVT.

And lastly you dont have a singe idea how a CVT works. If you knew you would be saying all this.

andre82: @ ka24dett, i believe that if you want 2argue, you'll correct the basis of argument or contention, which is timing belt/chain but you didn't, you just ranted about being in the business of cars and jumped onto honda's transmission problems. You sha want 2make urself heard by all means and thereby missing the point. This forum isn't for kids, but for adults. Am not a car expert but ℓ've learnt so much from educative arguements α̲̅πϑ not not the kind that looks like Muhammed Ali's style of boxing

gmyguy: Thanks, the mileage says 88k...but i don't even know...all these cars, might be tampered with...i was adviced by someone to change the timing belt sha...have a faulty fuel gauge and tachometer....some friends say i should just replace the whole display panel. what do you think?

KA24DETT:


Dude asked me about my take on manual Honda accord and that's why I sent out that reply. You need to read the topic before going off
What u talking about getting self heard? It's an online forum. It's not a popularity concert. Gosh , get over it



Aisin( Honda in house transmission company ) makes transmissions for Honda. In my years working in an Autoshop in canada , 80% of transmission replacement we work on is mostly Honda. They moved over to CVT which is good news and moreover , you can squeeze out more MPG from a CVT than a regular transmission. I don't know how reliable their CVT are cus it's just being few years out, only time will tell.

icemann:


Aisin is not own by Honda. They are an Independent transmission company and make transmission for a lot of car companies like Toyota, Hyundai, Mazda and VW. Honda produces MOST of the transmission in their cars. And if you know a lot about Nissan Jatco would ring a bell and if you drive a Benz you would notice Mahle GmbH and Siemens stamped on some parts.

Say what you know stop putting out wrong info.

lomomike: Ummm! I smell a lot of ignorance spewed by some ignoramous individuals emanating from this thread. This thread has been riddled with the bullets of ignorance much to the detriment of the good intent of the OP. Fact that some folks be mechanics no mean say dem fit conclude about a cars manufacturers past, present and future or condemn the cars. Every car has its strengths and and its achilies heel. This we/and the manufacturers know. But let's not forget about R n D (Research and Design dept in most companies) to research about these strength n weaknesses and design much more competent parts. Pls a lot of folks need not come online and throw up ignorance instead let them g☺ back to learn properly and consult the right sources before concluding. (I no call names o) thank ya'll

KA24DETT: ]]
...Mercedez benz has one of the highest RandD budget in the auto industry and according to JD power and associates, Hyundai sonata is more reliable than the S class even though the S class is more technologically advanced than the hyundai sonata...

lomomike:
Bro no pun intended, go back to JD Power and associates or even www.google.com and discover how wrong u are. The last time I checked, Honda leads the Parks of for reliability followed by Toyota and Mercedes Benz came third place. I don't know where u got your reliability survey which claims Hyundai is better than a Benz. Now u gonna derail this thread if care isn't taken.

KA24DETT:

Bro, I said Hyundai Sonata and Mercedez S class. I brought it in as a comparism for how R"N" does not fully translate to relaibility.
http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/dependability.htm talked about the 3-year reliability of cars in different classes. Please click on the link, It proves my point. If you were following the automotive news in the early 2000s. Mercedes was berated for their poor reliabilty in the late 90s and early 2000s. You can also access April, 2004 and April 2005 editions of "Consumer Reports" for more details There is a reason you can pick up a 2009 Mercedez Benz S class for half its full price 4 years later. Word on the street here is " You dont buy an S class, you lease it".
Lets get back to the topic bro, we are digressing too much.

elektra80:

Someone finally acknowledge what I posted here https://www.nairaland.com/1437097/why-german-american-cars-low. KA24DETT did not compare Hyundai with Mercedez, he only compared a Hyundai Sonata with Mercedez Benz S class. Most of these German cars become unreliable after a couple of years and mileage and lose their values.

KA24DETT:

You are right . The German guys build amazing sedans but the reliability is horrible .
Can you imagine paying $110,000 for Mercedes s550 AMG and 3 years later, it is worth $65,000. Thats crazy. $85,000 Lexus is worth around 65,000 after 3 years . That's the power of reliability

elektra80:

Some will say luxury things lose their values faster.. I agree to some extent. But what would u say about a 2004 Mercedez benz ML350 bought brand new for $38,000 and now worth just $9,000. A Toyota Highlander Limited bought same year for $31,000 is still worth $12,500.