As you probably know, Catholic
Bibles have 73 books, 46 in the
Old Testament, and 27 in the
New Testament. Protestant
Bibles have 66 books with only
39 in the Old Testament. The
books missing from Protestant
Bibles are: Tobit, Judith,
Baruch, Wisdom, Sirach, 1 and
2 Maccabees, and parts of
Esther and Daniel. They are
called the 'Deuterocanonicals'
by Catholics and 'Apocrypha'
by Protestants. Martin Luther,
without any authority
whatsoever, removed those
seven books and placed them in an appendix during the
reformation. They remained in
the appendix of Protestant
Bibles until about 1826, and
then they were removed
altogether.
Please be mindful of the fact
that those seven books had
been in Bibles used by all
Christians from the very
foundation of Christianity.
Hellenistic Greek was the
language of the day during the
time of Christ. This was due to
the fact that Alexander the
Great had conquered the region several hundred years before.
The Hebrew language was on its way out, and there was a critical need for a translation of the Hebrew Old Testament for
dispersed Greek speaking Jews.
This translation, called the
Septuagint, or LXX, was
completed by Jewish scholars
in about 148 B.C. and it had all
of the books, including the
seven removed by Martin
Luther over 1650 years later.
The New Testament has about
350 references to Old
Testament verses. By careful
examination, scholars have
determined that 300 of these
are from the Septuagint and the rest are from the Hebrew Old Testament*. They have shown that Jesus Christ Himself, quoted from the Septuagint.
Early Christians used the
Septuagint to support Christian teachings.
For the first 300 years of
Christianity, there was no Bible as we know it today. Christians had the Old Testament Septuagint, and literally hundreds of other books from which to choose. The Catholic Church realized early on that she had to decide which of these books were inspired and which ones weren't. The debates raged
between theologians, Bishops,
and Church Fathers, for several centuries as to which books were inspired and which ones weren't. In the meantime,
several Church Councils or
Synods, were convened to deal
with the matter, notably, Rome
in 382, Hippo in 393, and
Carthage in 397 and 419. The
debates sometimes became
bitter on both sides. One of the
most famous was between St.
Jerome, who felt the seven
books were not canonical, and
St. Augustine who said they
were. Protestants who write
about this will invariably
mention St. Jerome and his
opposition, and conveniently
omit the support of St.
Augustine. I must point out here that Church Father's writings are not infallible statements, and their arguments are merely
reflections of their own private
opinions. When some say St.
Jerome was against the
inclusion of the seven books,
they are merely showing his
personal opinion of them.
Everyone is entitled to his own
opinion. However, A PERSONS PRIVATE OPINION DOES NOT CHANGE THE TRUTH
AT ALL. There are always three sides to every story, this side, that side, and the side of truth.
Whether Jerome's position, or
Augustine's position was the
correct position, had to be
settled by a third party, and
that third party was the
Catholic Church.
Now the story had a dramatic
change, as the Pope stepped in
to settle the matter. In
concurrence with the opinion of St. Augustine, and being
prompted by the Holy Spirit,
Pope St. Damasus I, at the
Council of Rome in 382, issued
a decree appropriately called,
"The Decree of Damasus", in
which he listed the canonical
books of both the Old and New
Testaments. He then asked St.
Jerome to use this canon and to write a new Bible translation
which included an Old
Testament of 46 books, which
were all in the Septuagint, and a New Testament of 27 books.
ROME HAD SPOKEN, THE
ISSUE WAS SETTLED.
"THE CHURCH RECOGNIZED ITS IMAGE IN THE INSPIRED BOOKS OF THE BIBLE. THAT
IS HOW IT DETERMINED
THE CANON OF SCRIPTURE.
St. Jerome acquiesced under
obedience (Hebrews 13:17) and
began the translation, and
completed it in 404 A.D.. In
405, his new Latin Vulgate* was published for the first time.
*The word "vulgate" means,
"The common language of the
people, or the vernacular".
The Decree of Pope St. Damasus
I, Council of Rome. 382 A.D....
ST. DAMASUS 1, POPE, THE
DECREE OF DAMASUS:
It is likewise decreed: Now,
indeed, we must treat of the
divine Scriptures: what the
universal Catholic Church
accepts and what she must
shun.
The list of the Old Testament
begins: Genesis, one book;
Exodus, one book: Leviticus,
one book; Numbers, one book;
Deuteronomy, one book; Jesus
Nave, one book; of Judges, one
book; Ruth, one book; of Kings, four books; Paralipomenon, two
books; One Hundred and Fifty
Psalms, one book; of Solomon,
three books: Proverbs, one
book; Ecclesiastes, one book;
Canticle of Canticles, one book;
likewise, Wisdom, one book;
Ecclesiasticus (Sirach), one
book; Likewise, the list of the
Prophets: Isaiah, one book;
Jeremias, one book; along
Esdras, two books; Esther, one
book; Judith, one book; of
Maccabees, two books.
Likewise, the list of the
Scriptures of the New and
Eternal Testament, which the
holy and Catholic Church
receives: of the Gospels, one
book according to Matthew, one
book according to Mark, one
book according to Luke, one
book according to John. The
Epistles of the Apostle Paul,
fourteen in number: one to the
Romans, two to the
Corinthians, one to the
Ephesians, two to the
Thessalonians, one to the
Galatians, one to the
Philippians, one to the
Colossians, two to Timothy, one to Titus one to Philemon, one to the Hebrews. Likewise, one book of the Apocalypse of John.
And the Acts of the Apostles,
one book. Likewise, the
canonical Epistles, seven in
number: of the Apostle Peter,
two Epistles; of the Apostle
James, one Epistle; of the
Apostle John, one Epistle; of
the other John, a Presbyter, two Epistles; of the Apostle Jude the Zealot, one Epistle. Thus concludes the canon of the New Testament.
Likewise it is decreed: After the
announcement of all of these
prophetic and evangelic or as
well as apostolic writings which we have listed above as
Scriptures, on which, by the
grace of God, the Catholic
Church is founded, we have
considered that it ought to be
announced that although all the Catholic Churches spread
abroad through the world
comprise but one bridal
chamber of Christ, nevertheless, the holy Roman
Church has been placed at the
forefront not by the conciliar
decisions of other Churches, but has received the primacy by the evangelic voice of our Lord and Savior, who says: "You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it;
and I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and
whatever you shall have bound
on earth will be bound in
heaven, and whatever you shall
have loosed on earth shall be
loosed in heaven."
his list of 46 Old Testament and 27 New Testament books was reconfirmed in the Council of Carthage in 397 A.D.. St.
Jerome's translation, "The Latin Vulgate"*, is to this day, the official Bible of the Catholic
Church. The Bibles which
Catholics use today, have the
same 46 books in the Old
Testament as they have had
since before the beginning of
Christianity.
I have not seen a Protestant
writing giving recognition to
Pope St. Damasus I, or of even
the barest mention of his
decree, or of the Council of
Rome. This is more than half of the truth which is
"conveniently" left out of
Protestant arguments.
The Council of Hippo in 393
reaffirmed the canon put forth
by Pope Damasus I...
AD 393:
Council of Hippo. "It has been
decided that besides the
canonical Scriptures nothing be read in church under the name of divine Scripture.
But the canonical Scriptures are as follows: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers,
Deuteronomy, Joshua the Son
of Nun, Judges, Ruth, the
Kings, four books, the
Chronicles, two books, Job, the
Psalter, the five books of
Solomon (included Wisdom and Ecclesiastes (Sirach)), the
twelve books of the Prophets,
Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel,
Ezekiel, Tobit, Judith, Esther,
Ezra, two books, Maccabees,
two books."
(canon 36 A.D. 393). At about
this time St. Jerome started
using the Hebrew text as a
source for his translation of the
Old Testament into the Latin
Vulgate.
The Third Council of Carthage
reaffirmed anew, the Canon put forth by Pope Damasus I...
AD 397:
Council of Carthage III. "It has
been decided that nothing
except the canonical Scriptures
should be read in the Church
under the name of the divine
Scriptures. But the canonical
Scriptures are: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers,
Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges,
Ruth, four books of Kings,
Paralipomenon, two books, Job, the Psalter of David, five books of Solomon (Proverbs,
Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs,
Wisdom, Sirach), twelve books
of the Prophets, Isaiah,
Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel,
Tobit, Judith, Esther, two books of Esdras, two books of the Maccabees."
(canon 47 A.D. 397).
It is to be noted that the book of Baruch was considered by some Church Fathers to be a part of the book of Jeremiah and as such was not listed separately by them.
The Fourth Council of Carthage in 419 again reaffirmed the Canons as defined in previous
councils...
CANON XXIV. (Greek xxvii.)
"That nothing be read in church besides the Canonical Scripture.
ITEM, that besides the
Canonical Scriptures nothing be read in church under the name of divine Scripture. But the Canonical Scriptures are as
follows: Genesis Exodus
Leviticus Numbers
Deuteronomy Joshua the Son of Nun The Judges Ruth * The
Kings (4 books) * The
Chronicles (2 books) Job The
Psalter * The Five books of
Solomon (includes Wisdom and Sirach) The Twelve Books of the Prophets Isaiah Jeremiah Ezechiel Daniel Tobit Judith Esther * Ezra (2 books) * Maccabees (2books).
The New Testament: *
Source(s):
* The Gospels (4 books) * The
Acts of the Apostles (1 book) *
The Epistles of Paul (14) * The
Epistles of Peter, the Apostle (2)
* The Epistles of John the
Apostle (3) * The Epistles of
James the Apostle (1) * The
Epistle of Jude the Apostle (1) *
The Revelation of John (1 book)
.
Let this be sent to our brother
and fellow bishop, [Pope]
Boniface, and to the other
bishops of those parts, that they may confirm this canon, for these are the things which we have received from our fathers to be read in church."
[This is Canon xxxvj. of Hippo.,
393. The last phrase allowing
the reading of the "passions of
the Martyrs" on their
Anniversaries is omitted from
the African code.]
The Council of Florence, also
called Basel, 1431-1445, was yet another Council which
confirmed the Canons of both
testaments of the Bible...
SESSION 11 4 February 1442:
"We, therefore, to whom the
Lord gave the task of feeding
Christ's sheep', had abbot
Andrew carefully examined by
some outstanding men of this
sacred council on the articles of the faith, the sacraments of the church and certain other
matters pertaining to salvation.
At length, after an exposition of
the catholic faith to the abbot,
as far as this seemed to be
necessary, and his humble
acceptance of it, we have
delivered in the name of the
Lord in this solemn session,
with the approval of this sacred
ecumenical council of Florence, the following true and necessary doctrine. Most firmly it believes, professes and preaches that the one true God, Father, Son and holy Spirit, is the creator of all things that are, visible and invisible, who, when he willed it, made from his own goodness all creatures, both spiritual and corporeal, good indeed because they are made by the supreme good, but
mutable because they are made
from nothing, and it asserts that there is no nature of evil
because every nature, in so far
as it is a nature, is good. It
professes that one and the same God is the author of the old and the new Testament -- that is, the law and the prophets, and the gospel -- since the saints of
both testaments spoke under
the inspiration of the same
Spirit.
It accepts and venerates their
books, whose titles are as
follows. Five books of Moses,
namely Genesis, Exodus,
Leviticus, Numbers,
Deuteronomy; Joshua, Judges,
Ruth, four books of Kings, two
of Paralipomenon, Esdras,
Nehemiah, Tobit, Judith,
Esther, Job, Psalms of David,
Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of
Songs, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus,
Isaiah, Jeremiah, Baruch,
Ezechiel, Daniel; the twelve
minor prophets, namely Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi; two books of the Maccabees; the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John;
fourteen letters of Paul, to the
Romans, two to the
Corinthians, to the Galatians, to the Ephesians, to the
Philippians, two to the
Thessalonians, to the
Colossians, two to Timothy, to
Titus, to Philemon, to the
Hebrews; two letters of Peter,
three of John, one of James,
one of Jude; Acts of the
Apostles; Apocalypse of John."
The Council of Florence was
held over 100 years before the
Council of Trent, and about 80
years before the start of the
reformation.
The Council of Trent 1546-1565,
the longest lasting Council in
Church history.
AD 1546:
The Catholic Council of Trent,
called to counter changes made
by Martin Luther, again
reaffirmed the canonicity of all
46 books of the Old Testament.
Some Protestant reformers who attended, tried to get the
Church to accept the list of
books which the Jewish rabbis
had chosen at Jamnia.
The Church refused and upheld her teaching from Pope
Damasus I, and the Council of
Florence. As a result,
Protestants have the same New
Testament books as Catholics,
but their Old Testament differs
because it does not contain the
books rejected by the rabbis at
Jamnia, and much later,
rejected by Martin Luther.
It is interesting that for 1500
years all Christians accepted the same canon for the Old
Testament. Only in the last 480 years, since the reformation, has there been disagreement from Protestants

Previously posted here: https://www.nairaland.com/1257440/catholic-catholic-back-catholic#17636669


The arguments of the Roman Catholic apologists that "they" "compiled" the Bible are based on falsehoods, misrepresentations and deliberate propaganda. I'm sorry to say that the propaganda even includes entries in Wikipedia and people should judge carefully when they read about Roman Catholicism in places like that. One would need to look beyond not so rigorous sources like Wikipedia.

Anyway here is a couple more helpful threads:

Short thread with short posts and quick to a number of significant points: https://www.nairaland.com/1254965/eastern-orthodox-church-orthodox-catholic

Longer with arguments from different sides: https://www.nairaland.com/1039359/canon-bible-roman-catholic-church



Addendum: and of course the thread from which the post came originally https://www.nairaland.com/1257440/catholic-catholic-back-catholic

@OP. Though a lot has been said on the topic, it matters not how vigorous people work to thwart and confuse historical facts. It remains true what you've posted " The Catholic church compiled the bible"!

And no matter how much some Roman Catholics like to spread the lie, it remains the truth that it was NOT the Roman Catholic Church that "compiled" the Bible.

The Roman Catholic lie may travel for eons but the truth will still catch up with it.

Enigma:

And no matter how much some Roman Catholics like to spread the lie, it remains the truth that it was NOT the Roman Catholic Church that "compiled" the Bible.

The Roman Catholic lie may travel for eons but the truth will still catch up with it.

You need to reevaluate your brain

^^ Is that the kind of thing the Roman Catholic Church teaches you?

Anyway, I will take your advice. But then I have a question for you too.

Do you think your brain is worth anything?

You obviously cannot think, so you go and plagiarise and copy and paste what some nonce wrote and you don't have enough cleverness to ask questions. Let me help you: many things in what you plagiarised are false aka lies.

Long live the holy mother church!! Long live the catholic bible!! Compiled by catholics for catholics and the entire human race

@enigma tell us(without epistles) who put the books together.

^^^ Read the links I gave earlier

Note one of the first statements from this one https://www.nairaland.com/1257440/catholic-catholic-back-catholic#17636669

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Let me say from the outset that the point of this post is to show that at the time when the Bible was written and initially "compiled", there was NO such thing as "the Roman Catholic Church" or even "The Catholic Church".

Yep, and I repeat: there was NO such thing as "The Roman Catholic Church" or "The Catholic Church" at the time when the Bible was written and initially "compiled".
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Let me throw a bonus in for you.

Read the contents of this old post very carefully. Think carefully about the entire post but especially the material quoted from Athanasius.

In fact, I think it is beneficial to post an extract from that statement of Athanasius I referred to. While identifying and listing the books of "the Bible" in AD 367 (long before anything that the Roman Catholics can claim) he referred to:

"... the divinely inspired Scripture, concerning which we have been fully persuaded, as they who from the beginning were eye-witnesses and ministers of the Word, delivered to the Fathers; it seemed good to me also, having been urged thereto by true brethren, and having learned from the beginning, to set before you the books included in the Canon, and handed down, and accredited as divine ....... "

Read that carefully and of course go and read the old post to see the books of "the Bible" that he listed.

The bible was stolen by romans (edomites), who then put their pictures in it and formed the roman catholic church. (And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images)(1 maccabees 3:48)


All things full of labour; man cannot utter
the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled
with hearing. The thing that hath been, it
which shall be; and that which is done, that which shall
be done: and no new under the sun.
Is there thing whereof it may be said, See, this
new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us
(Ecclesiastics 1:8-10)

A Hebrew man by the name of King James (who was king of the place) then translated the bible to English. The Catholics then killed King James at the culmination of their renaissance inquisition.

@enigma, I tried reading that post before but damn! It was long. Lol. Anyway, I don't think 'who put the bible together' is that important

Dibiachukwu: The bible was stolen by romans (edomites), who then put their pictures in it and formed the roman catholic church. (And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images)(1 maccabees 3:48)
All things full of labour; man cannot utter
the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled
with hearing. The thing that hath been, it
which shall be; and that which is done, that which shall
be done: and no new under the sun.
Is there thing whereof it may be said, See, this
new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us
(Ecclesiastics 1:8-10)

A Hebrew man by the name of King James (who was king of the place) then translated the bible to English. The Catholics then killed King James and started the inquisition.

Bros na craze de worry you.Aru adikwa gi?

The bible is specially created by catholics for catholics!! Haters can go and hug the transformer

chukwudi44:

Bros na craze de worry you.Aru adikwa gi?

The bible is specially created by catholics for catholics!! Haters can go and hug the transformer

Listen if you are Igbo repent. The rule is to hear or forbear. You can continue worshipping your white images. And the wages of sin is death(Rom 6:23). 2/3 of hebrews, God is going to put to death. May God help us all. You are the one that is actually sick.

Adaeze003: @enigma, I tried reading that post before but damn! It was long. Lol. Anyway, I don't think 'who put the bible together' is that important

The black bolded makes me laugh; however, to avoid being deceived by the lies and propaganda being spread vigorously and deliberately by Roman Catholic apologists one would have to read and read carefully sha o!

OK let me summarise all those long long posts into just two points:

1. The Roman Catholics did not finally decide on their own Bible until as late as the 16th century around AD 1546. Because it is an undeniable historical fact, the Roman Catholics sometimes gently admit this but try to twist other facts and things.

See an example of Roman Catholics admitting with style style that their own Bible was only finalised as late as the 16th century.

The statement below is taken from them very own Roman Catholic Encyclopaedia.

"The Canon of the New Testament, like that of the Old, is the result of a development, of a process at once stimulated by disputes with doubters, both within and without the Church, and retarded by certain obscurities and natural hesitations, and which did not reach its final term until the dogmatic definition of the Tridentine Council." {Note the "Tridentine Council" took place from AD 1546 onwards. }


2. This second one is more important than when the Roman Catholics made their own Bible. The point here is that by the end of the first century approximately, the books of the Bible had already been written and were already being "compiled" --- by Christians. At this time there was no such thing as the Roman Catholic Church or even "The Catholic Church". What we had then was the Church of Christ or the Christian Church. As an aside you may find it helpful to skim the Wikipedia entry on the Christian Church (well let's hope the Roman Catholics are not allowed to manipulate it beyond the pale with their propaganda).

This Christian Church is universal and thus catholic in that small 'c' sense meaning "universal". But the Christian Church had loooooooong been in existence before either the Roman Catholic Church or even "The Catholic Church".

To further simplify things, here is a statement I made in one of my older posts:

From here https://www.nairaland.com/1104124/problem-catholism-an-introspection/20#15107836

We already had "the Bible" waaaaaaay before the 4th century; Christians who were mostly not Roman Catholics had already seen to that.

chukwudi44: Long live the holy mother church!! Long live the catholic bible!! Compiled by catholics for catholics and the entire human race

Good luck to you and your complicated life!

Now some may ask what is the difference between "The Catholic Church" and the Roman Catholic Church.

The difference between them can be described as that between 5 and 5 - 4 (i.e. 5 minus 4).

"The Catholic Church" = 5
The Roman Catholic Church = 5 - 4

"The Catholic Church" = Alexandria + Antioch + Constantinople + Jerusalem + Rome
The Roman Catholic Church = Rome

Although, with typical propaganda and falsehood, the Roman Catholic Church is now trying to present itself as "The Catholic Church". Meanwhile there are others also laying claim to the word "Catholic" with the capital 'C'. Chief of these is the Eastern Orthodox but there are actually a number of other groups also calling themselves 'Catholic' and who are not even in communion with the Roman Catholic Church.

And in any event the Christian Church is the catholic or universal Church; this small 'c' catholic Church is superior to either "The Catholic Church" or the Roman Catholic Church.

The Church of Christ is the catholic aka universal Church. It does not know and is not bound by denominations.


Hence Christians who are NOT Roman Catholics can say without problems:

'I believe in the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church'.

Dibiachukwu: The bible was stolen by romans (edomites), who then put their pictures in it and formed the roman catholic church. (And laid open the book of the law, wherein the heathen had sought to paint the likeness of their images)(1 maccabees 3:48)


All things full of labour; man cannot utter
the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled
with hearing. The thing that hath been, it
which shall be; and that which is done, that which shall
be done: and no new under the sun.
Is there thing whereof it may be said, See, this
new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us
(Ecclesiastics 1:8-10)

A Hebrew man by the name of King James (who was king of the place) then translated the bible to English. The Catholics then killed King James and started the inquisition.

King James was not a hebrew man he was the King of england, learn history, he has a problem with the catholic church because that he want to marry a new woman and to divorse the other woman, that is why he start a new church because the pope say that what he make is not christian.

The name of King James bible come from this King in england. He broke with the catholic church and make his own church the church of england and he makes a new translation of the bible, and this new translate bible is the James bible, please learn history.

Since waht time are the people from england Hebrew sorry learn history and don't tell lies like most of the fake pastors in Nigeria.

nora544:

King James was not a hebrew man he was the King of england, learn history, he has a problem with the catholic church because that he want to marry a new woman and to divorse the other woman, that is why he start a new church because the pope say that what he make is not christian.

The name of King James bible come from this King in england. He broke with the catholic church and make his own church the church of england and he makes a new translation of the bible, and this new translate bible is the James bible, please learn history.

Since waht time are the people from england Hebrew sorry learn history and don't tell lies like most of the fake pastors in Nigeria.

Hebrews ruled england man. King James was hebrew.

Dibiachukwu:
Listen if you are Igbo repent. The rule is to hear or forbear. You can continue worshipping your white images. And believe me, the wages of sin is death. 2/3 of hebrews, God is going to put to death. May God help us all. You are the one that is actually sick. Believe me

The white images represent a Loving mother, whose countenance we catholic will be blessed to behold now and at the hour of our Death. Leave us alone, we have seen and experienced the workings of our dear mother. Pray 4 forgiveness.

nora544:

King James was not a hebrew man he was the King of england, learn history, he has a problem with the catholic church because that he want to marry a new woman and to divorse the other woman, that is why he start a new church because the pope say that what he make is not christian.

The name of King James bible come from this King in england. He broke with the catholic church and make his own church the church of england and he makes a new translation of the bible, and this new translate bible is the James bible, please learn history.

Since waht time are the people from england Hebrew sorry learn history and don't tell lies like most of the fake pastors in Nigeria.

That was not King James but rather King Henry VIII and none of them were of hebrew origin.

King James was only responsible for the translation of the King James bible.The first edition of the King James bible was actually complete with the 73 bookas as agreed by the catholic church of the fourth century.

Judas2013:

Good luck to you and your complicated life!

Complicated ke? Bros e de pain u say na catholics compiled your bible? If e too pain go and hug a transformer

Hear a couple of Roman Catholics speaking on "The Apocrypha" or "Deuterocanonicals" ---- (meanwhile Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox have different meanings of 'deuterocanonical').*

Jerome:

"As the Church reads the books of Judith and Tobit and Maccabees but does not receive them among the canonical Scriptures, so also it reads Wisdom and Ecclesiasticus for the edification of the people, not for the authoritative confirmation of doctrine."


Per "pope" Gregory I or Gregory the Great

Just before referring to the Maccabees, he said

“With reference to which particular we are not acting irregularly, if from the books, though not Canonical, yet brought out for the edifying of the Church, we bring forward testimony.”


* One day I might just take time to provide detail explanation/clarification of this issue of Apocrypha/Deuterocanonicals.

Meanwhile, once again, I say that the Christian Church had long written and begun "compiling" the Bible before there was such a thing as either the Roman Catholic Church or even "The Catholic Church".

Dibiachukwu: ^^
Catholics, I know you people are kind of used to bowing to everything possible. Please do not bow to any image. Including the ones I used as illustration. It is just to give you an idea. It is not GOD.

Mumu who asked you? I don't even think you are a christian.

Catholic for life!!! Existing since the year 33CE and growing in leaps and bounds!! Compiler of the bible and world's most populous religious sect!! The world's greatest charitable organisation!! I can go on and on!!haters should go and hug a transformer