many medical labotatory scientists usually insult doctors or pathologists who are laboratory specialists. please read this link and form your opinion.

www.cap-acp.org/guidelines_laboratory_physicians.cfm

www.medscape.com/viewarticle/803844

Guy the first link says error 404 link not found while the second one shows nothing but registration. I repeat doctors dont have any role in the hospital laboratory again,

Emzybrown: Guy the first link says error 404 link not found while the second one shows nothing but registration. I repeat doctors dont have any role in the hospital laboratory again,

Advances in medical laboratory
technology have driven major
changes in the practice of laboratory
medicine over the past two decades
by the development of automated,
cross-disciplinary single platform
analysers. This has led to the blurring
of boundaries between traditional
disciplines and the emergence of core
automated or blood science
laboratories. This paper was
commissioned by the Union of
European Medical Specialists to
examine the changing role of
laboratory-based physicians in the
light of these advances by focusing on
the added value of expert
interpretation of test results and
resultant improvements in clinical
outcomes. The paper also considers
the broad range of responsibilities of
laboratory-based physicians and the
difficulties in precisely measuring how
this translates into improved clinical
outcomes. Given its provenance, the
paper concentrates predominantly on
the role of laboratory-based
physicians while acknowledging the
essential and vital role of scientists in
running diagnostic laboratory services.
Introduction
A predictable and welcome
consequence of advances in
understanding of the scientific basis
of medical practice in the 20th century
was the development of physicians
specialising in laboratory medicine
(LM) or pathology. While the early
pioneers were pluripotent in their
approach, embracing the composite
breadth of LM, the pace of advance in
tissue-based diagnosis and its
immediately verifiable impact on
disease management meant that
histopathology (also known as morbid
anatomy or cellular pathology) was
the first laboratory-based specialty to
carve out a distinct identity.
Subsequently, advances in diagnostics
in other areas of LM and the need for
particular expertise in distinct subject
areas led to the emergence of
laboratory-based physicians in
haematology (including transfusion
medicine), clinical biochemistry
(chemical pathology), microbiology
(including virology) and immunology.
Across Europe, the pace of
specialisation has varied with the
practice of LM in its broadest sense,
with the continuation of general
pathology or polyvalent LM in some
countries alongside the single
specialties listed above. The
development of a Section of LM
(Medical Biopathology) within the
European Union of Medical Specialist
(UEMS) in 1962 in order to promote
and harmonise high standards of
training and practice across LM in the
constituent countries of the European
Union and its subsequent evolution
has followed a similar vein. Although
at its inception the section of LM acted
as an umbrella body for all
laboratory-based specialties, the
presence of a critical mass of
practitioners and the distinctive nature
of practice in histopathology and
microbiology led to the creation of
individual sections for these
specialties in 1988 and 2009,
respectively.
Over the past few decades advances
in medical laboratory technology have
significantly influenced and directed
changing roles for physicians in many
laboratory disciplines with the
possible exception of histopathology.
Despite advances in image analysis,
the role of the histopathologist in the
critical analysis of diseased tissue
using a variety of conventional and
molecular biological techniques, has
to date, not been significantly
overtaken by technology. By contrast,
the automated analysis of blood and
other fluids in clinical biochemistry,
haematology, microbiology and
immunology laboratories using a
variety of techniques is not
dependent on direct physician
involvement. What added value then,
does a laboratory-based physician
bring to practice in these disciplines?
In the light of the organisational
changes driven by these advances and
attempts to contain healthcare costs,
this paper was written at the invitation
of the Section of LM of UEMS to
examine the role of laboratory-based
physicians in improving clinical
outcomes for patients undergoing
laboratory tests. By so doing, it does
not diminish the vital role of
laboratory scientists but highlights the
complementary nature of their
respective roles.

www.medscape.com/viewarticle/803844

so what do you want us to do, leave the laboratories for doctors and then work where

What i am saying is that med lab scientists,pathologists and other laboratorians should work together as a team. Roles must be defined and career progressiom must be formulated for all.

Laalamed: What i am saying is that med lab scientists,pathologists and other laboratorians should work together as a team. Roles must be defined and career progressiom must be formulated for all.

such a case scenario is already playing out in a morbid anatomy/ histo-cytopathology lab, i bet to tell you scientists are relegated to the background by doctors.

And scientists arrogate laboratories to them in chem path, micro, haema. I was told of a scientist who was abusing a chemical pathologist in presence of others. My brother, if pathologists and other laboratorians settle their differences, things can be done amicably and labs would improve patients care.

Emzybrown:

such a case scenario is already playing out in a morbid anatomy/ histo-cytopathology lab, i bet to tell you scientists are relegated to the background by doctors.

Laboratory assays are done by lab scientist, so what else should a doctor be doing in a lab apart from lab test interpretation, i want to tell you that tides have changed, mls is now a professional course in university, they no longer have diplomas but degrees, after five years in university i have been trained to study disease processes, make diagnosis as well as prognosis, so i can basically interpret lab test results without a doctors presence, thou in advance countries doctors are required to just authenticate the lab test result only.

Yes, mls are trained to run the tests. The role of pathologists is to autheticate or certify results. If u can go to website of america college of pathologists or search google for role of physcians or pathologists in laboratories , u will understand better what i am trying to say. Mls are custodian of laboratories just as nurses are custodian of wards or clinics. If u check the website labsarevitals, u would see that pathologists, mls and research scientists are now brainstorm in repositioning lab role in diagnosis and treatment of diseases. Mls need pathologists in lab just as pathologists cannot do anything without mls.

Emzybrown: Laboratory assays are done by lab scientist, so what else should a doctor be doing in a lab apart from lab test interpretation, i want to tell you that tides have changed, mls is now a professional course in university, they no longer have diplomas but degrees, after five years in university i have been trained to study disease processes, make diagnosis as well as prognosis, so i can basically interpret lab test results without a doctors presence, thou in advance countries doctors are required to just authenticate the lab test result only.

If pathologists autheticate results in advanced countries, why should nigeria be different?

Emzybrown: Laboratory assays are done by lab scientist, so what else should a doctor be doing in a lab apart from lab test interpretation, i want to tell you that tides have changed, mls is now a professional course in university, they no longer have diplomas but degrees, after five years in university i have been trained to study disease processes, make diagnosis as well as prognosis, so i can basically interpret lab test results without a doctors presence, thou in advance countries doctors are required to just authenticate the lab test result only.

Laalamed: If pathologists autheticate results in advanced countries, why should nigeria be different?

In Nigeria it is different, doctors claim to be demi gods, they want to be worshiped that's my annoyance they see other paramedicals as junior. W e ought to work in synergy you dig.