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Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 11:37am On Nov 25, 2013 |
Ijele-igbo: please prove the bolded. |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 11:40am On Nov 25, 2013 |
Mighty Sparrow: jehovah witnesses people are confused. The Bible says out of two or three witnesses (not JW) the truth shall be established. I have heard this verse over and over again, the reasonable thing to follow is that you cannot build a doctrine around a verse of the Bible. What happens to the other names God was known with before the Name Jehovah? who said that that was the only verse the name appeared? which name was He known with before Jehovah? |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 11:45am On Nov 25, 2013 |
Lilimax: We believe the bolded more than you do. So, lets start. are you saying that YHWH is not his name? waiting... |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 11:47am On Nov 25, 2013 |
Lilimax: Stop analysing the scripture using human wisdom? his reply was to the person who said that YHWH also means Lord. is that what you believe? your answer... |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 12:01pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
Emusan: Not "I am" BUT "I am who I am". Ex. 3:14 NIV. Dont remove one "I am" nor remove the "who", if not, you are no longer talking about the name. I wonder where you saw jealous as a name. |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 12:02pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
Emusan: |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 12:05pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
Lilimax: So sarah called abraham her "I am who I am"? ur answer. |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by edogho(m): 12:07pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
@Jman, Would've commented buh saw ur post and stepped aside cos I do believe u're up to the task. Some dudes go about believing everytin they see on d internet. See dat dude that quoted from catholic.com,read that before buh its so untrue. who says jehovah is Latin and from the Catholics? Do Latin-Americans pronounce the name as such? Abi u nah knw say yoruba ppl dey call and spell am as JEHOFA? Jman, just finish d job. I'll b watching. Gracias |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 12:18pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
Acidosis: JW never said they are the same with christendom. God's house can never be divided like that. never!!! the bolded shows that you serve God out of fear for hellfire. JWs serve God out of love, even though knowing that the evil will not experience eternal torment. we plead that you start to love God bro, not out of fear of eternal punishment. The wicked will be destroyed while the righteous will leave forever. that is the wages of sin, namely, DEATH, everlasting death. 2thes. 1:9 " 9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength." 2 Likes |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 12:43pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
lacum: In Hebrew the name of God is spelled YHWH. The criticism is on the use of the name in the bible NOT the pronunciation(from the context of that article, am i right?). catholic invented it? well, carry Jerusalem bible and the NWT and see who were faithful in using the name in their translation. or compare with any orthodox translation. its your job. that justifies the criticism. it is there monk who produce a way the name could be pronounced in another language. He didnt invent the name. You say, it doesnt dishonor God? that He said His name is something and you go and replaced the name because of superstition, and you have the mouth to say 'it is not wrong'? The creator's name in His own written word? You no dey fear face? be careful dude!!! Go and ask for forgiveness bros. that statement is wrong. And who told you that it was the same thinking (superstition) that produce the name Jehovah? People for nairaland sound funny at times. o' boy, go and rest abeg. |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 12:47pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
Mighty Sparrow: nope, others are titles. cleared? |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by macof(m): 12:52pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
the only reason why jw call God jehovah is because they worship the god of israel and not the God of the universe |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Ijeleigbo(m): 2:09pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
macof: the only reason why jw call God jehovah is because they worship the god of israel and not the God of the universe What's your problem? There is only one God young man. The God of Israel, the God in the bible is the God of this universe. He created the Heavens, this universe, you and me plus all that is in it... If you don't believe this truth I'm sorry.... I don't know what else to tell you but only pray God shows you the light to know the truth |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 2:23pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
macof: the only reason why jw call God jehovah is because they worship the god of israel and not the God of the universe I ve been ignoring your comment cos I dont really understand you. What point do you want to make? is the God almighty of the bible not the real God? please clarify and give reasons. 1 Like |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Emusan(m): 2:56pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
JMAN05: See you I Am means "Me" now if you want to understand it better "Me that is Me" this simply means beside God no one again. And Jesus said "....before Abraham was..."Me"...." @bold-Bro read Exodus 34:14 |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by macof(m): 3:33pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
JMAN05: yahweh is god of moutains which Israel was devoted to not the supreme god of the universe |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 4:01pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
Emusan: I dont know where to start. many nairalanders make me sick. bringing little little point. My point is: God didnt say His name is just "I am" BUT "I am who I am" OR "I shall prove to be what I shall prove to be". ex. 3:14. that word doesnt mean ME, but it is a hebrew verb, meaning "to become" or "prove to be". compare with Rotherham. That is just the meaning of the name Jehovah, namely, that God will become whatever he pleases to accomplish His purposes/promises. The "I am" or "to become" appeared twice to emphasize that He will become whoever He pleases to accomplish His will. If you remove one "I am" in that statement, you are no longer talking about the name. You are talking about another thing all together. Jesus was not stating that his name is I am who I am (it never occured twice for anybody except God). I dont know whether you guys understand bible at all. Do you even read the context of Jesus statement? the statement was in reference to age NOT name. habah!!! that before abraham, he(Jesus) has been in existence. If you say so, It then means that wherever the word "I am" appear in the bible, it is now talking about the Almighty. shey . nawaooo, God never said "I am" only, but "I am who I am". may God clear you guys' eyes. the thing is so blocked, blocked to blindness. 2. abro finish that verse na, that He is a jealous God. that is what that verse is saying, NOT that jealous has become a name to which you call God. I wander who referred to God as jealous in the bible before. God demands exclusive devotion. not sharing worship with anyone. that is the message. 1 Like |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Nobody: 4:04pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
macof: is this biblical? |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by macof(m): 4:13pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
JMAN05: the bible can be used to prove this |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Ijeleigbo(m): 9:36pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
macof: As you should know, God has so many names........... He is Yahweh, He is Jehovah and also God of this earth. if you doubt this, please tell me who is the God of this universe? |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Rosieflower(f): 11:46pm On Nov 25, 2013 |
Acidosis:Sori datz nt wot d bible teaches nd d witnesses dnt teach dat. pls read d book of psalms 37:9-11 tnx |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Emusan(m): 7:21am On Nov 26, 2013 |
JMAN05: What did I leave behind in that verse? Blind fellow, I thought you know your Bible very well before ...mtcheeeee NWT: Exo 34:14 "For you must not postrate yourself to other gods, [size=14pt]because Jehovah, whose name is jealous. Is a jealous God[/size] Was Jehovah called jealous here or not? God demands exclusive devotion. not sharing worship with anyone. that is the message Who are you worshiping apart from God Almighty? |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Ijeleigbo(m): 7:30am On Nov 26, 2013 |
Emusan: Yes! The Bible recorded our God is a Jealous God!! |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Emusan(m): 7:50am On Nov 26, 2013 |
Ijele-igbo: I hope you didn't take my post as an abuse to Christian. |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by truthislight: 8:33am On Nov 26, 2013 |
lacum: In Hebrew the name of God is spelled YHWH. I have just one question for you. Please, what is the meaning of the word Elijah ? *Eli-'Jah'* please, do tell me, am waiting. |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by truthislight: 8:37am On Nov 26, 2013 |
tayooluwole: No, they dont believe in 'Hell fire'. They teach that fire is a symbol of Yahweh's eternal destruction/oblitration. |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by truthislight: 8:46am On Nov 26, 2013 |
Ijele-igbo: The word 'Hell' is a pegan latin word that crept into the bible during translation to latin. The bible writers are all Jews and the laguages used in writing the bible are: OT = Hebrew language. NT = Greel language. Those two languages dont have the word 'Hell' in it. Hence, the word hell and its meaning is foriegn to the Jews/bible writers. The Idea of Hell is of the pegan latin people. The word 'Hellfire' is not in the bible. The word hell was used in translation to replace the word grave in the bible. Peace |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by Emusan(m): 8:57am On Nov 26, 2013 |
truthislight: You're wrong! The word hell as being used in both OT & NT is different. In the OT=Grave (position of death) In the NT=Hade (a brim of fire) Anywhere hell appears in OT it means a position of death whereas in the NT it means brim of fire. |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by truthislight: 9:09am On Nov 26, 2013 |
Why did you do this ? Emusan: My concern was with the word 'Hell', i dont know the "wrong" you talked about. However, the greek word Hedes means Grave. And in translation to latin, it was replaced with Hell. If you say otherwise you are on your own: "He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell neither his flesh did see corruption." (Acts 2:31). 1 Like |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by macof(m): 1:16pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
Ijele-igbo: I'll like u to read up on canaanite religion. Yahweh aka El Shaddai has been a pagan God wit little devotion. From the Bible we see that midian was his city of patronage before the nation of Israel. Midian was occupied mainly by Kenites and Sons of Midian(One of Abraham's sons) Other Gods were also worshipped in Israel at various times, Asherah/Athirat, El hadad(Baal), El berith who appeared in the Bible. Asherah is the Queen of heaven in the beliefs of the Canaanite region Psalms 82:1 & 6 got me thinking and I researched outside the Bible for the true religion of Israel. As u know Abraham left Haran for Canaan, he first dwelled on the mountains of Bethel and built a shrine to his new God- El Shaddai If only u all read to understand ur Old testament properly, you'll see The god of israel being the God of mountains. In Canaan before Israel and Syria took the land, El Elyon was the supreme God, the most high. Genesis 18-20, Deut 32:8 refers to Elyon(most high) as written in Hebrew Bible. The Amorites(A canaanite nation) who lived on mountains were also devoted to Yahweh as the God of mountains and war. In Israel close to the time of king Josiah, Yahweh was referral to "El" meaning the God(in reference of "The God of Israel" and the worship of Asherah was prevalent, making it seem Yahweh was the husband of Asherah and had taken El Elyon's place in the pantheon. Originally Anat was the wife of Yahweh according to Ugarit(another Canaanite nation) text. The confusion of today started when Israel were slaves in Babylon, at their return they proclaimed El Shaddai(known as Yahweh by Moses) as the only God of the world. Proclaiming Israel as the only nation of God this happened around 6th century BC. Before this time Yahweh was just one of numerous gods in the region. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_religion http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenite http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh_(Canaanite_deity) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_ancient_Egyptian_religion http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Elyon |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by macof(m): 1:27pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
truthislight: Eli- My God Jah is actually Yah in reference to Yahweh Elijah means Yahweh my God |
Re: The Reason Why Jehovah Witnesses Call God JEHOVAH by macof(m): 1:42pm On Nov 26, 2013 |
JMAN05: In Israel their God's name is Yahweh they find it offensive to call his name in vain and so they don't use that word in normal conversations. The catholic church formed the name "Jehovah" while translating the Bible to English in respect for the Jews. JHVH instead of YHWH. Hebrew consonant sounds of "Y" and "W" are transliterated to English as "J" and "V" respectively. Exodus 6:3 is YHWH in Hebrew Bible Yahweh according to wat we read in the Bible means I am that I am but it means something else to Jews To fully decode names in the English Bible, you need the Hebrew Bible and good knowledge of Hebrew language |
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