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Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 5:51am On Dec 24, 2013
MiriamP pls create a new account and come back. Its strange to most 'doctor' to receive hot challanges from non 'doctor'. Pls come serve them hot! grin
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by adeoladrg(m): 6:05am On Dec 24, 2013
Incognito Quant:

Before we misinform the public and loose focus in this discuss, lets be clear on some issues (some of which I have addressed in previous quotes)
1. who is the head of the medical team? Correct ans: The Doctor
so a senario in which I have a paramedic, an NP, a nurse, a physician assistant and a Physician, who takes charge is the Physician

2. are NPs allowed to prescribe? Correct ans: Yes, but most states in US requires a doctor to co-sign their prescriptions (you understand what that implies).
Also they are expected to consult doctors and specialist when necessary. Clients are even advised to ask their doctors if their case can be handled by an NP.
In Nigeria, BSC nursing has started and I dont see any doctor losing sleep over it. The truth is because Nurses (RN/RM or NPs) are lower in peaking order than the Doctor in training and competence working within the same structure ( be it pediatrics or geriatrics).

3. the Nigeria M.B.B.S senario. the training of any doctor gives him a certain degree of proficiency in Medicine, surgery, Obs/gyn, Child health, Mental health and Public health. Implies that he should be able to handle a wide variety of cases but the training tells him when to refer. Now we have CME/CPDs. The issues of residency space etc and future structure.............sorry you dont have the privilege to share in those information.

4. why the hatred for the Nigeria Doctor? I bet you cant talk about the American Trained the way you disregard Nigerians. You know your place as a nurse or paramedic in US and even revere the doctor

In as much as uve made brilliant comments. That's great, I respect that. But do u know that if those same American doctors decide to go on strike because of what paramedics are earning, the American people will surely come down on them. I'm afraid, thats the case here.

No one is saying he shouldn't head the medical team(as doctors av come to this forum to say), stop the unnecessary lordship(by politics) over the health sector, stop trying to determine what others earn. Mind ur salary scale and face it.

It's no news that Dr Orhii is campaigning for another term. Smh. Ai tete mu-ole.
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by zeefever: 6:48am On Dec 24, 2013

sorry but i repeat i dont argue with simpletons, borrow a leaf from Incognito. Its only simpletons like u dat will not recognise the sarcasm in that statement. And for ur info i attended a university, a college of health sciences.
And for what u wish urself, if u re a man, den ur wife will deliver all her children thru C/S and if u re a woman, be rest assured that all ur children will be delivered thru C/S and dis shall go down to ur children even to ur 4th generation. He who rolls a stone will have it rolled back at him, and who digs a pit shall fall into it.




Please what is wrong in having a baby through C/S?
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 6:57am On Dec 24, 2013
slowpoke. Ur comment show that u do not read at all. I am disappointed in u as usual. When will u change?
adeola_drg:

I taya for thepathologist. 1 very unintelligent fellow. Oga stick to ur lab work and stop saying trash all over NL.

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Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 7:08am On Dec 24, 2013
Laalamed: slowpoke. Ur comment show that u do not read at all. I am disappointed in u as usual. When will u change?
what are u saying? A doctor callin sum1 imbëcilë livs so much to be desired
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 7:12am On Dec 24, 2013
I think doctor being head of nafdac is giving u headache. If dr paul orhii gets second term,pls go and commit suicide. Law does not say nafdac head must be a pharmacist but must have knowledge of pharmacy and nutrition. If u guys are not ok with that pls go to court and claim victory as usual. Dr paul tills 2018.
adeola_drg:

In as much as uve made brilliant comments. That's great, I respect that. But do u know that if those same American doctors decide to go on strike because of what paramedics are earning, the American people will surely come down on them. I'm afraid, thats the case here.

No one is saying he shouldn't head the medical team(as doctors av come to this forum to say), stop the unnecessary lordship(by politics) over the health sector, stop trying to determine what others earn. Mind ur salary scale and face it.

It's no news that Dr Orhii is campaigning for another term. Smh. Ai tete mu-ole.
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 7:15am On Dec 24, 2013
How can he call a doctor an unintelligent fellow?
nouveaux:
what are u saying? A doctor callin sum1 imbëcilë livs so much to be desired
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 7:21am On Dec 24, 2013
Privatization or Ppp is the key. But why many members of johesu does not want it.
Mrs Awesome: Hey, would you mind rereading the post again. Medical model of care not US model which is obtainable anywhere in the whole world has nothing to do with surgeon general stuff. And NO..... NMA is losing cos for every of their gains it is countered by JOHESU ...med scientist win , JOHESU court win ...name NMAs ....With conmess ...there is CONHESS. Soon the government will get tired of the whole hullabo and probably privatize all our sorry assEs. I am drumming it now to every ears ..go get a certifications that will stand you out among your peers...at least the big companies, hospitals will be after you when it is the governments time to strike.
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by MrsAwesome: 7:22am On Dec 24, 2013
No 2, US started losing sleep when NPs went to DNP route and all hell broke loose. It's not about being an NP, PA but about what was included in the curricula that made them able to diagnose. Nigeria nurses getting degrees should be a source of headache for doctors ..see what happened to medlab technologists becoming scientist...with pathologist losing a hunk of lab headship. What is the bone of contention of this strike .....monetary and egotistical gains then added a flimsy residency whatever qnd health sector funding for sympathy. Doctors should wake and smell the coffees.
Doctors being heads of medical team ........nobody is discussing that here sha. But being the administrative head sound so out of medicine cos he/she ain't managing patients but paperworks and personnel and there are people trained for such.
Every professional is expected to consult when the need arises so it is not peculiar to nurses. Nurses are not ranked with doctors cos they are from two different professions...so ranking low in peaking order in doing some of the things doctors do combining it with what they do is really something. Mind you that any nurse practicing pediatrics, geriatrics or whatever is practising nursing. Check out the court verdict of US anesthetist and CRNAs.
MBBS, is just a starting point of medicine...these era is an era of specialist and in UK to become a GP you have to pass some foundation courses but the case is different in Nigeria. We emulate their surgeon general ish and leave their other best health practices.
Revere is an egotistical word...it is earn . Doctors are not hated but people are getting tired of the strikes and once you strikes it is cos of money. American professionals knows their onions unlike their Nigerian counterpart that practices everything instead of medicine .
Incognito Quant:

Before we misinform the public and loose focus in this discuss, lets be clear on some issues (some of which I have addressed in previous quotes)
1. who is the head of the medical team? Correct ans: The Doctor
so a senario in which I have a paramedic, an NP, a nurse, a physician assistant and a Physician, who takes charge is the Physician

2. are NPs allowed to prescribe? Correct ans: Yes, but most states in US requires a doctor to co-sign their prescriptions (you understand what that implies).
Also they are expected to consult doctors and specialist when necessary. Clients are even advised to ask their doctors if their case can be handled by an NP.
In Nigeria, BSC nursing has started and I dont see any doctor losing sleep over it. The truth is because Nurses (RN/RM or NPs) are lower in peaking order than the Doctor in training and competence working within the same structure ( be it pediatrics or geriatrics).

3. the Nigeria M.B.B.S senario. the training of any doctor gives him a certain degree of proficiency in Medicine, surgery, Obs/gyn, Child health, Mental health and Public health. Implies that he should be able to handle a wide variety of cases but the training tells him when to refer. Now we have CME/CPDs. The issues of residency space etc and future structure.............sorry you dont have the privilege to share in those information.

4. why the hatred for the Nigeria Doctor? I bet you cant talk about the American Trained the way you disregard Nigerians. You know your place as a nurse or paramedic in US and even revere the doctor
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 7:35am On Dec 24, 2013
Hot,brillantand interesting arguement. Pls ,can u suggest unbiased solutions to problems in health sector.
Mrs Awesome: No 2, US started losing sleep when NPs went to DNP route and all hell broke loose. It's not about being an NP, PA but about what was included in the curricula that made them able to diagnose. Nigeria nurses getting degrees should be a source of headache for doctors ..see what happened to medlab technologists becoming scientist...with pathologist losing a hunk of lab headship. What is the bone of contention of this strike .....monetary and egotistical gains then added a flimsy residency whatever qnd health sector funding for sympathy. Doctors should wake and smell the coffees.
Doctors being heads of medical team ........nobody is discussing that here sha. But being the administrative head sound so out of medicine cos he/she ain't managing patients but paperworks and personnel and there are people trained for such.
Every professional is expected to consult when the need arises so it is not peculiar to nurses. Nurses are not ranked with doctors cos they are from two different professions...so ranking low in peaking order in doing some of the things doctors do combining it with what they do is really something. Mind you that any nurse practicing pediatrics, geriatrics or whatever is practising nursing. Check out the court verdict of US anesthetist and CRNAs.
MBBS, is just a starting point of medicine...these era is an era of specialist and in UK to become a GP you have to pass some foundation courses but the case is different in Nigeria. We emulate their surgeon general ish and leave their other best health practices.
Revere is an egotistical word...it is earn . Doctors are not hated but people are getting tired of the strikes and once you strikes it is cos of money. American professionals knows their onions unlike their Nigerian counterpart that practices everything instead of medicine .
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by adeoladrg(m): 7:38am On Dec 24, 2013
Laalamed: slowpoke. Ur comment show that u do not read at all. I am disappointed in u as usual. When will u change?

This dull doctor that couldn't get an antimalarial drug for his TB patient and still won't employ a pharmacist out of pure hate.. Dull doctor, dull pathologist. Yes I said. Long gone is the time every doctor u meet was an intelligent one. We know how u manovre ur way in and out of medical school. So pluuuuueeeeeezzzzz!!!

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Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by adeoladrg(m): 7:40am On Dec 24, 2013
Laalamed: I think doctor being head of nafdac is giving u headache. If dr paul orhii gets second term,pls go and commit suicide. Law does not say nafdac head must be a pharmacist but must have knowledge of pharmacy and nutrition. If u guys are not ok with that pls go to court and claim victory as usual. Dr paul tills 2018.

I'll let this link do the talking..

swankpharm.com/2013/12/22/nafdac-a-festering-controversy/
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 7:44am On Dec 24, 2013
Laalamed: How can he call a doctor an unintelligent fellow?
so what aura covers and protect a doctor from been called dat? Whats d biggie in that name?
I think u guys think high of your self, u had better cut yourselvs some slacks. Trailer park i no see am, na hin driver i go con see? Waka pass abeg.
Btw, notin wrong in calling others such shey? Cos i av seen that happen on this thread? Nonsense
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by adeoladrg(m): 7:52am On Dec 24, 2013
In
marshalling out reasons to establish that
government’s appointment of Dr. Orhii was wrong
headed, PSN wrote:
‘The major area to be regulated in line with the
regulatory mandate of National Agency for Food
and Drugs Administration and Control, NAFDAC,
remains pharmacy, food and drugs. Ironically, the
incumbent Director General cannot legally be
designated a pharmaceutical inspector because the
provisions of Sections 5 and 6 of the Poison and
Pharmacy Act Cap 535 Laws of the Federation of
Nigeria 1990 compels all inspectors to be
registered pharmacists.”
The petition further argues: “Similarly, the
provisions of Sections 9 sub section [2] and [3] of
food and drug makes it obvious that it is only
registered pharmacists and persons who have a
post graduate qualification in drug analysis who
can be designated drug analysts. In same spirit it
is chemists or those who have a post graduate
qualification in food analysis who can be
designated food analyst.”
Seeking to connect the dots, the pharmacists
argued that “the only profession that connects all
the areas is pharmacy” whereas the only
professional able to work knowledgeably in these
areas is the pharmacist. It is evident that all the
anxieties in the air over the NAFDAC chief
executive is heightened because the tenure of Dr.
Orhii is coming to an end and the pharmacists do
not wish to be caught napping again. Their request
on this was clear enough in their petition
document to the Presidency: that Mr. President
“corrects the unlawful appointment of the Director
General, NAFDAC which is not in tandem with
Section 9 [1] of Act 15 of 1993, in the next
dispensation which unfolds in January 2014 by
appointing a registered pharmacist who can meet
the condition precedent in the NAFDAC Act.” Even
as the pharmacists argue passionately on this,
their confidence is boosted by recent accounts of
government’s review and reversal of related
anomalies in similar appointments. Such instances
include the dissolution of the board of the
Pharmacists Council as well as the dissolution and
reconstitution of the Nursing and Midwifery Council
of Nigeria.


Read and learn. U want to be everywhere, boss everybody. *deep sigh*
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 7:59am On Dec 24, 2013
See another slowpoke in the house.
nouveaux:
so what aura covers and protect a doctor from been called dat? Whats d biggie in that name?
I think u guys think high of your self, u had better cut yourselvs some slacks. Trailer park i no see am, na hin driver i go con see? Waka pass abeg.
Btw, notin wrong in calling others such shey? Cos i av seen that happen on this thread? Nonsense
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 8:04am On Dec 24, 2013
Comments from a pharmacist with hydrocephalic brain. No wonder we have a lot of fake drugs in circulation. Fake pharmacists, fake drugs. Olodo! Dindinrin. Dr paul orhii till 2018. If u do not like it, go and enter lagoon water. slowpoke.
adeola_drg:

This dull doctor that couldn't get an antimalarial drug for his TB patient and still won't employ a pharmacist out of pure hate.. Dull doctor, dull pathologist. Yes I said. Long gone is the time every doctor u meet was an intelligent one. We know how u manovre ur way in and out of medical school. So pluuuuueeeeeezzzzz!!!
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 8:12am On Dec 24, 2013
In usa, who often head Food and drug administration(FDA)? The present head of Fda is a physcian and pharmacists in usa are not complaining. Are they? If u are too blind to read and learn, see eye pharmacist or self-medicate. Deluded mind. Smh.
adeola_drg: In
marshalling out reasons to establish that
government’s appointment of Dr. Orhii was wrong
headed, PSN wrote:
‘The major area to be regulated in line with the
regulatory mandate of National Agency for Food
and Drugs Administration and Control, NAFDAC,
remains pharmacy, food and drugs. Ironically, the
incumbent Director General cannot legally be
designated a pharmaceutical inspector because the
provisions of Sections 5 and 6 of the Poison and
Pharmacy Act Cap 535 Laws of the Federation of
Nigeria 1990 compels all inspectors to be
registered pharmacists.”
The petition further argues: “Similarly, the
provisions of Sections 9 sub section [2] and [3] of
food and drug makes it obvious that it is only
registered pharmacists and persons who have a
post graduate qualification in drug analysis who
can be designated drug analysts. In same spirit it
is chemists or those who have a post graduate
qualification in food analysis who can be
designated food analyst.”
Seeking to connect the dots, the pharmacists
argued that “the only profession that connects all
the areas is pharmacy” whereas the only
professional able to work knowledgeably in these
areas is the pharmacist. It is evident that all the
anxieties in the air over the NAFDAC chief
executive is heightened because the tenure of Dr.
Orhii is coming to an end and the pharmacists do
not wish to be caught napping again. Their request
on this was clear enough in their petition
document to the Presidency: that Mr. President
“corrects the unlawful appointment of the Director
General, NAFDAC which is not in tandem with
Section 9 [1] of Act 15 of 1993, in the next
dispensation which unfolds in January 2014 by
appointing a registered pharmacist who can meet
the condition precedent in the NAFDAC Act.” Even
as the pharmacists argue passionately on this,
their confidence is boosted by recent accounts of
government’s review and reversal of related
anomalies in similar appointments. Such instances
include the dissolution of the board of the
Pharmacists Council as well as the dissolution and
reconstitution of the Nursing and Midwifery Council
of Nigeria.


Read and learn. U want to be everywhere, boss everybody. *deep sigh*
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by docsholz(m): 8:21am On Dec 24, 2013
See pharmacy students claiming superstar here, sir laalamed u seriously get time to trade words with these guys
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 8:25am On Dec 24, 2013
They are so annoying. Thanks a lot. Make i leave them with their ignorance and imbecilic attitude.
doc sholz: See pharmacy students claiming superstar here, sir laalamed u seriously get time to trade words with these guys
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by IncognitoQuant: 8:30am On Dec 24, 2013
Mrs Awesome: No 2, US started losing sleep when NPs went to DNP route and all hell broke loose. It's not about being an NP, PA but about what was included in the curricula that made them able to diagnose. Nigeria nurses getting degrees should be a source of headache for doctors ..see what happened to medlab technologists becoming scientist...with pathologist losing a hunk of lab headship. What is the bone of contention of this strike .....monetary and egotistical gains then added a flimsy residency whatever qnd health sector funding for sympathy. Doctors should wake and smell the coffees.
Doctors being heads of medical team ........nobody is discussing that here sha. But being the administrative head sound so out of medicine cos he/she ain't managing patients but paperworks and personnel and there are people trained for such.
Every professional is expected to consult when the need arises so it is not peculiar to nurses. Nurses are not ranked with doctors cos they are from two different professions...so ranking low in peaking order in doing some of the things doctors do combining it with what they do is really something. Mind you that any nurse practicing pediatrics, geriatrics or whatever is practising nursing. Check out the court verdict of US anesthetist and CRNAs.
MBBS, is just a starting point of medicine...these era is an era of specialist and in UK to become a GP you have to pass some foundation courses but the case is different in Nigeria. We emulate their surgeon general ish and leave their other best health practices.
Revere is an egotistical word...it is earn . Doctors are not hated but people are getting tired of the strikes and once you strikes it is cos of money. American professionals knows their onions unlike their Nigerian counterpart that practices everything instead of medicine .

Evidently, you are biased against the Nigerian Doctors! It is unfortunate for you to say they practice everything except Medicine. Do you know all the 71, 740 doctors registered under MDCN especially the 27, 000 who are practicing within the shores of the country? Some gentlemen have paid their dues with the limited facilities they have in their centers.
You don't have to tell the owner of a house that he needs to rebuild his house. Every doctor knows that he has to do residency. Now for the pathway to achieve that and the prerequisite to forward ones career in medicine,I think I should be the one educating you on that. Now you appreciate the need for all to be specialist and best health practices , yet in your own words ''...added a flimsy residency whatever qnd health sector funding for sympathy'' (i.e. you re advocating for specialist yet condemning NMA struggle to achieve it ). Even as much as MBBS or MD( the American equivalent ) is a starting point, their level of skill is still competent enough to function and well above those of NP or BSC nurses.
Now on the issue of Doctors being the head of the medical team: in your own words '.nobody is discussing that here sha' Are you serious? Seems you have not been following the discuss on doctors and others being CMDs? What is the Chief Medical Director? Is a hospital not a complex medical team? Isnt there already a Head of Admin? and are doctors aspiring to be in that position? What are you saying?
Now on the NP route to DNP, yes that opened the pandorax box grin Very true especially among family physicians. let see how the Americans sort that out. But lets be clear on this issue, NP thrive in remote areas where there is no Doctor. Only someone who cant afford a doctor except he is a fool visits an NP in preference to a Doctor. Its just because of skill and competence
I would advise you to read about the history of medicine especially in the last 200 years, it would help you make a less biased decision.
Also you should understand the complexity of the Nigeria situation. No doctor ( or the ones I know rather ) want to go on strike but in Nigeria how else do you achieve anything?
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Mbatagr82(m): 8:43am On Dec 24, 2013
Laalamed: Privatization or Ppp is the key. But why many members of johesu does not want it.
It is because with the kind of mentality most Nigerian docs have, if eventually the health care is privatised our hospitals will go from bad to worse! The physicians are only shouting privatise!privatise! Because of their thirst for arrogance.The health sector is large enough for a peaceful coexistence amongst members.So why this i pass my neigbour show? Every health proffessional deserves good treatment.If you spent 6+ studying and i spent 5+ studying you shouldnt see yourself as most important.Live and Lets live!!
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by money3: 9:05am On Dec 24, 2013

pls wc planet did u drop from?? Am surprised u even said u read previous comments. Or u is it the read and forget syndrome? Ok i will remind u i am a nurse, proud to be one, and never gonna change. I will not do anyone s work unless the need arises in dat case i will do it and do it perfectly.
MiriamP, Why am I not surprised at you. Doing another man's job for which you are not qualified could criminal. What is wrong with simply refering them to the appropriate authority in the field?[b][/b]
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 9:13am On Dec 24, 2013
Hahahahaha. Which kind of mentality nigeria doctors have? Examine ur head well. If u say mentality of nigerians, i am ok with it. Members of Johesu do not want privatization 'cos many of u would become jobless and commit suicide.
Mbatagr82: It is because with the kind of mentality most Nigerian docs have, if eventually the health care is privatised our hospitals will go from bad to worse! The physicians are only shouting privatise!privatise! Because of their thirst for arrogance.The health sector is large enough for a peaceful coexistence amongst members.So why this i pass my neigbour show? Every health proffessional deserves good treatment.If you spent 6+ studying and i spent 5+ studying you shouldnt see yourself as most important.Live and Lets live!!
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by aletheia(m): 9:14am On Dec 24, 2013
adeola_drg: ...antimalarial drug for his TB patient...
Chei! So na you be dat pharmacist wey de use chloroquine treat tuberculosis. God don catch you today. Na so una dey prescribe nonsense, dey cause kidney and liver failure dey kill our naija people.

nouveaux:
I wont join words with you, u are obviously a pre clinical student. I always say it, if you are a Nigerian and it takes an outsider to tell u abt goings in your country, then you are a dunce. Im done with you, I hate it wen embryos quote me. Oshe
Embryo? Embryo dey inside him mama belle. You no sabi book O. Na illiterate de form say him sabi use big grammar. Na only to dey abuse you fit because wetin I been talk about nurse na true. Abi no be 3 credit una been de use enter School before? Any way I know wetin de worry you. You carry vex sake of say one pre-clinical student wey you been dey eye no gree give you face. At least Nurse Miriam own better pass, she manage date one medical student before that one dump am. You still dey cry in frustration.
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by adeoladrg(m): 9:14am On Dec 24, 2013
Laalamed: Comments from a pharmacist with hydrocephalic brain. No wonder we have a lot of fake drugs in circulation. Fake pharmacists, fake drugs. Olodo! Dindinrin. Dr paul orhii till 2018. If u do not like it, go and enter lagoon water. slowpoke.

Can u see how dull u r? U're showing the public how dull doctors can be. The issue with fake drug has more to do with laws binding drug distribution and the ibo boys not the pharmacist's expertise. Na pharmacist say make government no intercept imported fake drugs?? Orhii siddon 4 NAFDAC, Wetin e sabi about drug analysis Don't let me slap ur ugly head.

U can like to tell us how many patients have died of ur mistake. Or the ones u forgot a tool in his stomach after surgery cheesy. Pls goan upgrade ur skills, y shud Nigerians be running to India for surgery?? If not for the incompetence of doctors here..

Pls greet ur TB patient for me.. Cos if not for a NL pharmacist, u'd av sent the innocent patient to his early grave. Agbaya, alainitiju ara Galatia.

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Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by adeoladrg(m): 9:19am On Dec 24, 2013
aletheia:
Chei! So na you be dat pharmacist wey de use chloroquine treat tuberculosis. God don catch you today. Na so una dey prescribe nonsense, dey cause kidney and liver failure dey kill our naija people.


Embryo? Embryo dey inside him mama belle. You no sabi book O. Na illiterate de form say him sabi use big grammar. Na only to dey abuse you fit because wetin I been talk about nurse na true. Abi no be 3 credit una been de use enter School before? Any way I know wetin de worry you. You carry vex sake of say one pre-clinical student wey you been dey eye no gree give you face. At least Nurse Miriam own better pass, she manage date one medical student before that one dump am. You still dey cry in frustration.

Wetin this 1 dey talk?? Ur doctor friend didn't know what drug to treat his TB patient. Mumu cry come meet pharmacist 4 NL. Y e no employ 1 4 hin clinic? I wish joshpharm didn't give u a response that day. He'd av left ur deluded and frustrated self. I pity ur innocent patients tho.

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Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by IncognitoQuant: 9:34am On Dec 24, 2013
Mbatagr82: It is because with the kind of mentality most Nigerian docs have, if eventually the health care is privatised our hospitals will go from bad to worse! The physicians are only shouting privatise!privatise! Because of their thirst for arrogance.The health sector is large enough for a peaceful coexistence amongst members.So why this i pass my neigbour show? Every health proffessional deserves good treatment.If you spent 6+ studying and i spent 5+ studying you shouldnt see yourself as most important.Live and Lets live!!

Privatization maybe a double edge sword. In as much as it may bring sanity to the system, healthcare may become unaffordable and hence inaccessible to the common man.
However, I am of the view that JOHESU members, don't want it because they may lose their pension and maybe held to a standard of practice in which they are not accustomed to consequently leading to more job insecurity.
Physicians are shouting for it because of the sanity it brings. However, private establishment follow the dictates of the owners who tend to appoint a board of directors necessary not doctors. The CMDs may have to account to the directors invariably limiting his powers.
So thirst for arrogance isnt the issue here.
It is true that every health professional deserves good treatment, but the medical system has a hierarchy. It is not a democracy.
Lets not use the amount of years of study to judge but the value you bring into the system (or you lose the argument before its started).
I think you should not be worried with the salaries of doctors, they even should be paid more but to demand first class services from them.
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by TCD: 9:34am On Dec 24, 2013
Lol so Miriamp deactivated her account in shame. its quite a pity and see her misrepresenting herself as an experienced nurse who teaches house officers . the hostility for doctors is something else.

Personally I think hospitals should be run administratively by professional hospital administrators while CMD oversees the medical departments and reports to the administrator and hospital board. That way adequately trained professionals handle what they have been equipped to dp effectively.
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by adeoladrg(m): 9:39am On Dec 24, 2013
Laalamed: In usa, who often head Food and drug administration(FDA)? The present head of Fda is a physcian and pharmacists in usa are not complaining. Are they? If u are too blind to read and learn, see eye pharmacist or self-medicate. Deluded mind. Smh.

U don't know the laws binding the enactment of US FDA do you?

Let me educate u for a while here.In constitution, the laws binding the enactment of nafdac says. The NAFDAC decree 15 of 1979. The law setting up NAFDAC states in Section 9,
sub-section [1] as follows: “there shall be
appointed for the agency by the President,
Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces on the
recommendation of the Minister, a Director General
who shall be a person with good knowledge of
pharmacy, food and drugs.

Obviously any sane person would know that knowledge of drugs there meant analytical not pharmacological. That said how does a doctor fit into this? U must just manoeuvre things and lord the health sector? Use d little brain u av left plllluuuieezz.

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Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by adeoladrg(m): 9:55am On Dec 24, 2013
U or even orhii can like to tell me the test for identity for NaHCO3 antacid powder, or whether gravimetric analysis goes for Barium sulphate or if bromometry goes for a thiosulphate antioxidant.

Who does the pharmacovigilance? Who does the pharmacokinetic tests that show that a drugs in circulation should be withdrawn or banned? Let me stop here, apart from administrative work, let me know how a doctor can function there plss? I'm waiting. Miserable set of people. We won't stomach ur arrogance no more!!!


If u're not a pharmacist, u're not a pharmacist. Pharmacology won't make u one(tell Orhii that). Even nurses do pharmacology, so wats d fuss
PS: NAFDAC is just a diversion tho. Doctors really are pained about CONHESS. smh

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Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by Nobody: 9:55am On Dec 24, 2013
See empty headed pharmacist vomiting formalin. I created a clinical scenario of tb patient with malaria and the so called 'consultant pharmacists' recommended jargon. They failed the test. The forum is there. People should go and check. I decided to leave them.These pharmacists are slowpoke,they have no clue of clinical judgement of physcian in selecting drugs for patients and they want to practice clinical pharmacy. Silly people. Fake pharmacists producing fake drugs. Fake pharmcists dispense drugs that kill cynthia. Criminal pharmacists giving bad medical advice to people in nl. Better hold to where u belong: industries and dispensing. Pharmaceutical physcians and scientists are ready to kick u out of industries and pharm technicians out of dispensing pharmacies.i pity u. There is a rope for u to hang in case paul orhii become nafdac boss again.
adeola_drg:

Wetin this 1 dey talk?? Ur doctor friend didn't know what drug to treat his TB patient. Mumu cry come meet pharmacist 4 NL. Y e no employ 1 4 hin clinic? I wish joshpharm didn't give u a response that day. He'd av left ur deluded and frustrated self. I pity ur innocent patients tho.
Re: Expect Total Strike From Jan 6, Doctors Warn by texazzpete(m): 10:01am On Dec 24, 2013
Mbatagr82: Who is saying doctors should not be well fed? Pls Just close your mouth if you lack what to say.

Yawn.
I wonder why topics like these seem to attract these drive-by, lack witted posts from brainless scum like you.

Please go and look for your mate to argue with and stop trying to vilify your betters.

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