VIENNA, Austria - The U.N. nuclear agency has presented intelligence allegedly showing plans to redesign an Iranian missile to accommodate a nuclear payload.


The International Atomic Energy Agency shared the intelligence with 35 nations on Tuesday, but the Iranian representative to the organization says the information was fabricated.

Gregory L. Schulte, the chief U.S. representative to the IAEA, said the evidence shows Iran has a weapons program.

The two spoke separately to reporters after the presentation by the IAEA, one day after the U.N. nuclear watchdog issued a report saying that Iran has stonewalled its attempts to probe allegations that it drew up plans and conducted experiments for a nuclear arms program.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_iran_nuclear

Oga Richyblack, come and defend the peaceful program. in other news.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jGm4IlFB_5Jfw0zKBttlntWFmwAQ

People are losing sleep over what Iran may want to do when they are comfortable with Israel developing and storing nuclear weapons and the US using atomic bombs on 2 civilian populations (the only country to have done so).

Talk of unadulterated hypocrisy and complete stupidity.

Afam:

People are losing sleep over what Iran may want to do when they are comfortable with Israel developing and storing nuclear weapons and the US using atomic bombs on 2 civilian populations (the only country to have done so).

Talk of unadulterated hypocrisy and complete stupidity.

Afam,

It is people like bawomolo that create the environment for tyrants like George W. Bush to have their way, twisting facts into the fiction they want to believe.

@bawomolo,

From the article:
"The presentation relied on photos and documents pertaining to what U.S. intelligence says were Iranian efforts to work on nuclear weapons program up to 2003. After that year, according to a U.S. intelligence estimate, Iran apparently stopped such activity."

Questions for you (I don't care if you answer them):
1. What can you deduce from the statement above?
2. Does this new revelation nullify US intelligence report that concluded that Iran's nuclear activity ceased in 2003?
3. Why bring up old doctored photos of a program that your intelligence have stated no longer exist?
4. Does bringing up old doctored photos related to a non-existent program imply that the program still exist?
5. Did you ever in your life take a class in logic?

Iran remains a peaceful nation and has every right in the world to seek nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. George W. Bush and his cabal of blood-thirsty neocons can fantasize all they want about spilling the blood of innocent Iranian civilians, but it will not happen!

Iran is doing nothing illegal and McBushalin will have to smarten up (I wish!) and look for another excuse to bomb Iran. The "Weapons of Mass Destruction" excuse to bomb is old and tired!

It is people like bawomolo that create the environment for tyrants like George W. Bush to have their way, twisting facts into the fiction they want to believe.

i'm no fan of George Bush but a tough stance on Iran is need, if your nuclear program is peaceful, why lock it up from the outside world. evidence has come out showing that the syrian site bombed by israel was indeed a proposed nuclear site.

3. Why bring up old doctored photos of a program that your intelligence have stated no longer exist?

logic man, how do u know it's doctored.

Iran remains a peaceful nation and has every right in the world to seek nuclear technology for peaceful purposes.

yeah the same country sponsoring hezbollah, hamas and shia millitant groups in iraq. we are still yet to see the benefits of this peaceful program. we would believe it when iran actually builds some power stations. BS

People are losing sleep over what Iran may want to do when they are comfortable with Israel developing and storing nuclear weapons and the US using atomic bombs on 2 civilian populations (the only country to have done so).

more people would have died from an amphibious invading of the japanese mainland compared to the bomb dropped by enola gay and co. conventional weapons killed millions in leningrad and stalingrad. no one creates an hoopla about that. nagasaki was an industrial target by the way. go read up on history

bawomolo:


more people would have died from an amphibious invading of the japanese mainland compared to the bomb dropped by enola gay and co. conventional weapons killed millions in leningrad and stalingrad. no one creates an hoopla about that. nagasaki was an industrial target by the way. go read up on history

What a stupid response. So it is ok for the US to use atomic bomb on 2 civilian targets because it feels that it is the safest way to end the war but it is not ok when countries that have never used nuclear weapons or atomic weapons are developing nuclear technologies for peaceful means?

This guy I sincerely believe is cursed with olodoness and the curse is really working.

Afam ogbotobo
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Afam:

What a stupid response. So it is ok for the US to use atomic bomb on 2 civilian targets because it feels that it is the safest way to end the war but it is not ok when countries that have never used nuclear weapons or atomic weapons are developing nuclear technologies for peaceful means?

umm has the US used a nuclear weapons ever since, fact remained the bomb was in an experimental state when it was used, so no one knew the extent of the damage it would have caused. nuclear proliferation is the way to go. why did iran sign the proliferation treaty if it planned to make weapons? can someone show pictures of an iranian nuclear power station.

This guy I sincerely believe is cursed with olodoness and the curse is really working.

this coming from a genius that believes georgia invaded russia

bawomolo:

umm has the US used a nuclear weapons ever since, fact remained the bomb was in an experimental state when it was used, so no one knew the extent of the damage it would have caused.  nuclear proliferation is the way to go.  why did iran sign the proliferation treaty if it planned to make weapons?  can someone show pictures of an iranian nuclear power station. 

this coming from a genius that believes georgia invaded russia

Hey, stop running around and tell us why the US intelligence units concluded that Iran's alleged nuclear program was terminated in 2003?

True neocons do not regard the assessment of intelligence units like the CIA, they prefer relying on their biased, racist and Islamophobic "gut feelings" as facts. This foolish ideology of dismissing facts or twisting them is the very reason the US got into two senseless wars - Vietnam and Iraq!

With people like bawomolo, like Dick Cheney, around dumb asses like George W. Bush, we may as well see another senseless war with Iran.

Fortunately, the world has grown wiser and the empty rants of blood-thirsty neocons wishing for a showdown with peaceful Iran, to steal her immense oil and gas reserves and decimate her civilian population (including the Iranian Jews I might add) will not happen, God willing!

bawomolo:


more people would have died from an amphibious invading of the japanese mainland compared to the bomb dropped by enola gay and co.  conventional weapons killed millions in leningrad and stalingrad. no one creates an hoopla about that.  nagasaki was an industrial target by the way. go read up on history

@bawomolo,
You've exposed your pedestrian understanding of WWII and cold war geopolitics!

Japan was already in back-channel talks for a surrender before the bomb was used.

WWII had four main theaters of war:
1. The allied front in Western Europe (Normandy etc)
2. The allied front in the South Pacific
3. The Soviet front in Eastern Europe
4. The Soviet front in Manchuria

The Soviet Union, without allied help, dislodged the Japanese from Manchuria (China). The Russo-Japanese wars you mentioned were fought on Chinese soil. It is on record, quote me anywhere, that no nation or group of nations has ever successfully invaded the Japanese mainland! Of course many Western history texts will not state this historical fact. The Mongols came close but failed. The allied forces performed poorer than the Mongols in their own failed attempt!

The Soviet smashed German resistance in Berlin and took the city in April/May 1945.

The impressive performance of the Soviet, as one nation, on two important theaters of WWII, especially the surrender of Berlin to the Soviets made Western politicians panic. They feared that the Soviet Union could one day be a formidable foe, especially since the Soviets did not share the West's version of democracy.

The Americans, especially wanted to show the Soviets that they had the big bomb, and were able and willing to use it. Though there were threats to impeach the president if the bomb was not used, especially given the billions the Americans spent on the Manhattan Project. The politicians and some in the military wanted to "test" the bomb - after so much sweat developing it. There were already some disagreement brewing between the Soviet and Allied Forces in Berlin, which worried the West. The West was eager to send a strong unmistakable message to the Soviets and Japan, unfortunately, was the pawn to be sacrificed! Today, some WWII historians have gone as far as proclaiming that "Japan was the first casualty of the Cold War!"

These were the main reason the bomb was used, not the reason you gave above.

America could have accepted Japanese surrender if they wanted (after all the back-channel lines were open and Japan was already war-weary) but chose not to because they wanted to show the Soviet what a bomb they had!

The impressive performance of the Soviet

u mean after the US bankrolled the development of soviet industries and millions of deaths in leningrad and stalingrad.

America could have accepted Japanese surrender if they wanted (after all the back-channel lines were open and Japan was already war-weary) but chose not to because they wanted to show the Soviet what a bomb they had!

the japanese millitary council was split down to the middle on the issue of surrender, some wanted to go on, other didn't and there was also the issue of the status of the emperor. when the japanese choose not to respond to the US surrender offer, they sealed their fate. back channels my ass

Hey, stop running around and tell us why the US intelligence units concluded that Iran's alleged nuclear program was terminated in 2003?

probably after they were unsucessful, u have to wonder why iran signed the non-proliferation treaty in the first place(a point u miss)

Fortunately, the world has grown wiser and the empty rants of blood-thirsty neocons wishing for a showdown with peaceful Iran, to steal her immense oil and gas reserves and decimate her civilian population (including the Iranian Jews I might add) will not happen, God willing!

first peaceful Russia, not peaceful Iran. what next peaceful taliban. lol. Iranian nuclear facilities are probably going to be bombed soon. no invasion is going to happen

"Think about what the current situation in Iran is and what will most likely happen if either Obama or McCain get elected. The main issue that seems to be the matter of concern is Iran's nuclear program. The program is, of course, nothing new. [b]Americans helped the late Shah Pahlavi in Iran establish the program over 30 years ago. Neither has Iran done anything as it relates to its nuclear program that has violated any international law or agreement. Iran is a lawful member of Non-Proliferation Treaty, under which it has the right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes. [/b]That's what Iran has been doing. The reason that the program has become a matter for concern is seemingly because of Iranian President Ahmadinejad's anti-Israeli government statements that were then taken and mistranslated to imply that Ahmadinejad intended to "wipe Israel off the map," something that he never said or meant and has consistently rejected the notion that Iran will or should do any harm to the people in Israel. I know this; I'm fluent in Farsi and have personally read the original transcripts."

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-sedaei/ahmadinejad-wants-mccain_b_126558.html

bawomolo:

Iranian nuclear facilities are probably going to be bombed soon.  no invasion is going to happen

The only language Republican neocons like you know - bombing and killing Muslim women and children and calling it collateral damage. No sense of diplomacy, no understanding of dialogue. I'm not surprised, your leader George W. Bush can't even communicate properly in English; expecting your kind to engage in dialogue (as saner minds like Obama are advocating for) is obviously expecting too much.

Just remember that as you bomb and kill innocent Muslims in the Middle East, you only increase the likelihood of others seeking revenge!

Only a fool will express any surprise when the vengeance materializes.

Go ahead and bomb, what are you waiting for?

@Poster
Does Israel have Nukes? If it does its hipocrisy to halt its neighbours from trying to develop same. Why should there be one rule for Isreal and another for its neighbours?

@RichyBlack,

First you tried to rescue davidylan from self destruction now you are trying to rid this bawolomo of his useless sense of reasoning.

Stop helping these people so they will continue to show the world how they think like mad men abi na boys.

to the geniuses avoiding my question, why did iran sign the non-proliferation act?? keep in mind israel, india and pakistan are not signees.

sleek_p:

@Poster
Does Israel have Nukes? If it does its hipocrisy to halt its neighbours from trying to develop same. Why should there be one rule for Isreal and another for its neighbours?

@sleek_p,

Israel has nukes. They've tried and failed to conceal it but the world confirmed it when an insider revealed the information to the world. You're right about the hypocrisy issue. However, Iran has clearly stated that it only seeks nuclear technology for peaceful purposes.

bawomolo:

to the geniuses avoiding my question, why did iran sign the non-proliferation act?? keep in mind israel, india and pakistan are not signees.

Your persistence in asking a question I've answered before only reveals two things:
1. Your overall knowledge of the issues is shallow and pedestrian at best
2. You're not sincerely interested in a honest debate

Let me answer your dumb question more explicitly so you can understand:

[b]That Iran is a signatory to the Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) does not preclude her from seeking and developing nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, as Iran has consistently declared. This right is guaranteed in Article IV of the NPT:

Article IV:

1. Nothing in this Treaty shall be interpreted as affecting the inalienable right of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes without discrimination and in conformity with Articles I and II of this Treaty.

2. All the Parties to the Treaty undertake to facilitate, and have the right to participate in, the fullest possible exchange of equipment, materials and scientific and technological information for the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. Parties to the Treaty in a position to do so shall also co-operate in contributing alone or together with other States or international organizations to the further development of the applications of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, especially in the territories of non-nuclear-weapon States Party to the Treaty, with due consideration for the needs of the developing areas of the world.
[/b]
Furthermore, Iran has taken no action to suppose that puts her in violation of the caveat in Article IV. The necessary articles relating to this caveat are:

Article I:[12] Each nuclear-weapons state (NWS) undertakes not to transfer, to any recipient, nuclear weapons, or other nuclear explosive devices, and not to assist any non-nuclear weapon state to manufacture or acquire such weapons or devices.

Article II: Each non-NWS party undertakes not to receive, from any source, nuclear weapons, or other nuclear explosive devices; not to manufacture or acquire such weapons or devices; and not to receive any assistance in their manufacture.

Reference: Wikipedia

That Iran is a signatory to the Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) does not preclude her from seeking and developing nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, as Iran has consistently declared. This right is guaranteed in Article IV of the NPT:

isn't the research ceased in 2003 a violation of these?? and why is iran so hell bent on blocking nuclear inspectors. nuclear facilities below bunkers, something doesn't right here

Afam:

@RichyBlack,

First you tried to rescue davidylan from self destruction now you are trying to rid this bawolomo of his useless sense of reasoning.

Stop helping these people so they will continue to show the world how they think like mad men abi na boys.

@Afam,

It's hard to sit back and watch Nigerians parrot the failed policies of the inept Republican party, a policy of preemptive strike: "Bomb Iran because they plan to get nuclear weapons in the future".

That some of these people claim to support Obama and at the same time advocating the central principle of the Bush doctrine (attack nations that pose future threats to the US) is indeed mind-boggling!

bawomolo:

isn't the research ceased in 2003 a violation of these?? and why is iran so hell bent on blocking nuclear inspectors. nuclear facilities below bunkers, something doesn't right here

Let us assume that the now non-existent program (as confirmed by your trusty CIA/NSA/DIA etc.) was actually in place, so your argument is that Iran should be denied her right to seek nuclear technology as enshrined in Article IV of the NPT because she came into compliance with the NPT guidelines five years ago? That she should be stripped of her right because she decided to stop being a rogue nation and comply with the NPT? That she should be punished for repenting?

This is why I've always laughed at Republicans who claim to be Christians. Republican ideology is incompatible with Christianity. Lucifer's children claiming to be children of God, how laughable!

RichyBlacK:

Let us assume that the now non-existent program (as confirmed by your trusty CIA/NSA/DIA etc.) was actually in place, so your argument is that Iran should be denied her right to seek nuclear technology as enshrined in Article IV of the NPT because she came into compliance with the NPT guidelines five years ago? That she should be stripped of her right because she decided to stop being a rogue nation and comply with the NPT? That she should be punished for repenting?

This is why I've always laughed at Republicans who claim to be Christians. Republican ideology is incompatible with Christianity. Lucifer's children claiming to be children of God, how laughable!

iran stopped being a rogue nation? laughable. anyway u still haven't answered my question. why sign the NPT if u are going to violate it anyway. violate it by researching nuclear warheads and then buying tainted equipment from pakistan. not to forgot, iran routinely blocks nuclear inspectors. am still waiting to see the nuclear power plant

bawomolo:

iran stopped being a rogue nation? laughable. anyway u still haven't answered my question. why sign the NPT if u are going to violate it anyway. violate it by researching nuclear warheads and then buying tainted equipment from pakistan. not to forgot, iran routinely blocks nuclear inspectors. am still waiting to see the nuclear power plant

None of these ramblings are legitimate grounds for denying her the right to seek nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. Even the belligerent nations of Europe (US does not count when discussing Iran because of her toddler-driven policy) have never argued that Iran has lost her Article IV right; I stand to be corrected on that.

bawomolo:

iran stopped being a rogue nation? laughable. anyway u still haven't answered my question. why sign the NPT if u are going to violate it anyway. violate it by researching nuclear warheads and then buying tainted equipment from pakistan. not to forgot, iran routinely blocks nuclear inspectors. am still waiting to see the nuclear power plant

Don't kid yourself! Since the revolution, Iran has never been a rogue nation! Tell me what rogue acts Islam has carried out? See pot calling kettle black. The US that has killed innocent women and children with nuclear bombs is not a rogue nation in your book, but the Islamic Republic of Iran that has never harmed a fly from a neighboring country, except when the US used Saddam Hussein to start a war with her.

but the Islamic Republic of Iran that has never harmed a fly from a neighboring country,

and miraculously the head of the mahdi army found comfort in iran when the heat got to much, supporting hamas and hezbollah millitary with both millitary and financial aid is obviously not harmful. anyway why haven't we seen an iranian nuclear plant or do we have to wait decades for the "peaceful" use. u have to wonder how a country can scream peaceful technology when it secretly worked on nuclear warhead designs. u would be screaming another tune if iran was an ally of the US