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JOHESU Are Support Staff In The Health Sector by Nobody: 10:34am On Jul 03, 2014
I have watched for some time now the consistent ans almost incurable rancour that has characterize activities in the health sector and have come to make the following conclusion. The doctor's position as the head of any health institution cannot be compromised. A hospital cannot be headed by, say a pharmacist or any other person from another field. Even when laboratory scientists are sick, they go to see a doctor.

After all the grammer JOHESU are blowing, let them attend to patients now doctors are on strike. Even though the doctors' demands and reasons for going on strike are not tangible enuogh, I guess they are doing it to curtail the over- ambitious attitude of other health workers in the system. There is nowhere in the world where support staff can have equal rights with core staff. In the health sector, especially hospitals, staff other than the doctors are support staff. Let JOHESU or whatever they call themselves take it or not.

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Re: JOHESU Are Support Staff In The Health Sector by omicron(m): 10:42am On Jul 03, 2014
kaorama: I have watched for some time now the consistent ans almost incurable rancour that has characterize activities in the health sector and have come to make the following conclusion. The doctor's position as the head of any health institution cannot be compromised. A hospital cannot be headed by, say a pharmacist or any other person from another field. Even when laboratory scientists are sick, they go to see a doctor.

After all the grammer JOHESU are blowing, let them attend to patients now doctors are on strike. Even though the doctors' demands and reasons for going on strike are not tangible enuogh, I guess they are doing it to curtail the over- ambitious attitude of other health workers in the system. There is nowhere in the world where support staff can have equal rights with core staff. In the health sector, especially hospitals, staff other than the doctors are support staff. Let JOHESU or whatever they call themselves take it or not.
I think the problem is that they have refused to accept their roles as such, which makes them believe they are equal to doctors.

And then they go on to feed the public lies and make it seem as though the anarchy originated from doctors, whereas they are the ones that woke up one day and started striving to have same priveleges with doctors. It is a big shame, but it will not last forever.

Very soon it will become clear to them how their 'politician members' have deceived them.
Re: JOHESU Are Support Staff In The Health Sector by Nobody: 10:49am On Jul 03, 2014
Another medical doctors weeping thread

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Re: JOHESU Are Support Staff In The Health Sector by Nobody: 10:49am On Jul 03, 2014
The truth is that a cold war always ensues whenever there is a gathering of doctors and someone else from any other health related disciplne. Recently pharmacies are asking to be called doctors at graduation from school. Wonder what their motive is. But the problem is that very soon people will start blaming GEJ for this. Let them stop this politics and accept their role as support staff

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Re: JOHESU Are Support Staff In The Health Sector by omicron(m): 11:10am On Jul 03, 2014
...... if u see a strike, dont go reminding us of the hippocratic oath which u know nothing about. We wrote it. We swear it, we know what it means.
Johessu on the other hand is an irrational organisation made up of other health workers, infact, basically everyone who works in a hospital. From accounts department to cleaners and the aggrieved non-doctor health workers, whose sole aim is to frustrate the health sector.
In a hospital, there is the Director of Admin, as powerful as the CMD. An office open to every one and in most hospitals, if not all, has never been smelt by a doctor.

How can someone who is not a doctor be fighting for chief medical director. So the accounts department in a police station should start fighting for Inspector general, cos they work with the police?
How can nurses start talking about consultancy? They have matrons, CNO's and all what not. Consultancy is a position, not bestowed upon anyone. Even medical officers who have worked for decades are not just made consultants. U go thru a residency program, write exams and become one under a recognised medical post graduate college.

And by becoming a consultant, u have the sole responsibility of the patient. Every other person, from the resident doctor to the nurse and orderlies are mere aides.
I don't know how to start explaining this because no one would understand. Its like 2moro, assuming when Nigeria was under military rule, civil defence would come out and demand to become president. But when the war starts, u send the soldiers. That u match infront of ur civil defence office DOES NOT make u a military combatant.
And if the same benefits given to these soldiers are given to the boy scouts, every one would become a boy scout.
Medical doctors were not selected. Its open to everyone. If u want to be a consultant or a CMD then u go and study medicine and pass through rigorous postgraduate training and pass your exams. U dont wake up one morning and decide to convert ur profession to what it is not.

U say Nigerians are subjecting their patients to quacks. Who are those quacks? Perhaps a an allied health staff masquerading as a medical doctor. Are they not the same people who believe by working inside a hospital and wearing white coats, they've become doctors? Thats exactly what Johessu is doing.

The federal govt acted like they did during the fuel subsidy, kidnap, bombings and all their plain acts of ignorance. And the medical profession has just had enough of the stupidity.
The Chief medical director office is the BIRTHRIGHT of medical doctors as much as being president of Nigeria is the birthright of a nigerian citizen. U cant come from ghana, live here for 30yrs and demand to be president. A Burser does not become the VC in a uni, a Man o War does not become the COAS, a medical doctor does not director at a pharmaceutical production companies.

There is a medical salary structure worked out based on relativity. No doctor has ever fought the govt based on how much they chose to pay other health workers. But relativity keeps it sane.

Without the cleaners in a hospital, it wont function. So therefore, they should strike till they are paid same or higher than the graduate workers? because they are equally important? The Accountants shd strike till they become medical directors?
Keep salary structure relative, keep qualified people in their due offices and provide an enabling working environment. I dont think thats an irrational thing to fight for.
And saying NMA is envious is only laughable. Envious of who if I may ask? Of the nurse? Are u seriously for real?
Johessu members can blog all they want and seek cheap sympathy for as long as they want. The fact still remains that the truth is the truth.
I can't chose to become a doctor and 2moro start complaining about Mikel Obi's salary. If I wanted, I could have become a footballer.
I urge Nigerians to understand that these strike, as much as it affects them, is not directed towards them.
ASUU strikes over salary, college's off education and polytechnics are on strike over money. No one has called them evil. We strike over common sense and people start ranting.
There are laws. In Nigeria, u cannot become president without at least an SSCE. If u chose not to go to secondary school, then thats ur problem. U chose ur profession, or u failed to meet the standards of the one u chose and hence went to another. Which ever way it happened, thru ur own fault or circumstances surrounding u, u dont try to turn an existing system upside down to suit ur selfish needs from wat u imagined a particular profession gains financially , at the expense of quality, efficiency and common sense.

Let every one understand their proper places for peace to reign.

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Re: JOHESU Are Support Staff In The Health Sector by Nobody: 11:18am On Jul 03, 2014
People talk about doctors' oath as if it exists before life. Doctors need to eat first before saving lives. In fact, don't pray to seat before a hungry doctor. Nigerians must understand the gang up against medical doctors being championed by pharmacists and the admin department who always think they are responsible for fighting for the privileges of the doctors.

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Re: JOHESU Are Support Staff In The Health Sector by youngRx(m): 3:01pm On Jul 03, 2014
yeah dey r support staff....dat means u know doctors need suport and any one who needs support CAN NEVER walk alone. stop mking it sound like whats happening now wil not happen if JOHESU were to embark on a total n nationwide strike like ur callous fellows....the butchers in lab coat
Re: JOHESU Are Support Staff In The Health Sector by heykims(m): 11:23am On Jul 04, 2014
youngRx: yeah dey r support staff....dat means u know doctors need suport and any one who needs support CAN NEVER walk alone. stop mking it sound like whats happening now wil not happen if JOHESU were to embark on a total n nationwide strike like ur callous fellows....the butchers in lab coat
U re wrong, very wrong. Without d support staff, doctors will still walk coz there re doctors specializing in virtually all aspects of medicine be it d labs, pharmacy, radiiology, mortuary etc.
The non-doctor health workers re aware of this nd dts y they incorporate d record officers, accountants, cleaners etc because they know they re dispensable. Let only d core non-medical doctor health workers viz nurses, medical lab scientists, pharmacists, physiotherapists solely go on strike nd lets see if d hospital won't run...
Its even funny coz now dt d doctors re on strike, all these JOHESU ppl re at their respective posts doing nothing...
But wen JOHESU strike paralyses d health sector simply coz d record officers nd d cashier etc re involved, doctors re free not to even go to d hospital, dt tells u who d boss is...
Re: JOHESU Are Support Staff In The Health Sector by armadeo(m): 3:21pm On Jul 04, 2014
heykims:
U re wrong, very wrong. Without d support staff, doctors will still walk coz there re doctors specializing in virtually all aspects of medicine be it d labs, pharmacy, radiiology, mortuary etc.
The non-doctor health workers re aware of this nd dts y they incorporate d record officers, accountants, cleaners etc because they know they re dispensable. Let only d core non-medical doctor health workers viz nurses, medical lab scientists, pharmacists, physiotherapists solely go on strike nd lets see if d hospital won't run...
Its even funny coz now dt d doctors re on strike, all these JOHESU ppl re at their respective posts doing nothing...
But wen JOHESU strike paralyses d health sector simply coz d record officers nd d cashier etc re involved, doctors re free not to even go to d hospital, dt tells u who d boss is...



Sometimes we even strong head and go ahead to see patients, thats why they are quick to switch off power and lock offices. When Drs go on strike they just stay away from the hospitals however when johesu goes on strike why are offices and govt instruments locked and power (NEPA) not gen turned off, my friend the hospital will function when they all leave cos it can.

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