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Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by ShehuAba(m): 12:03am On Jul 06, 2014 |
The Committee of Pro-Chancellors of Federal Universities on Friday called for the introduction of tuition in Federal universities to support funding of the universities. http://m.news24.com/nigeria/National/News/Tuition-to-be-introduced-in-federal-universities-20140705 |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by ShehuAba(m): 12:08am On Jul 06, 2014 |
a what does this news portend for the future of Nigeria's education system. Does it mean that we've not been paying tuition, and does it mean that without the tuition things can never get better. Let's watch out and see how this intriguing event unfolds. 6 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by ayukdaboss(m): 1:52am On Jul 06, 2014 |
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Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 4:01am On Jul 06, 2014 |
As a citizen,what are the things we enjoy from the government,they are always proposing we pay for virtually everything,tuition fees,TV fees,etc.. What then is the function of the government? 9 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Chanchit: 4:31am On Jul 06, 2014 |
I don't knw why this imbecilic leaders make running a country look like a rocket science. We know of oil producing countries that do not collect tax, non oil producing countries that offer free education, not just free, very good education, not only to their citizens but also foreign students, but here our leaders have turned d country into money making venture. We would still riot to go back to the colonial era as this thing dey go. 47 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Badmushazan: 5:44am On Jul 06, 2014 |
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Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by samtopy(m): 5:46am On Jul 06, 2014 |
They all enjoyed free education.......smh 13 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by roland2rule(m): 7:19am On Jul 06, 2014 |
PLS HOW CAN I LEAD REVOLUTION AGAINST THIS FUTURE DESTROYERS 25 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Greenified(m): 7:26am On Jul 06, 2014 |
This can't happen in a Arab country, Nigerians are damn too gentle. 8 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by penny01502: 7:51am On Jul 06, 2014 |
this a short way of saying education should be only for the rich 4 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by SporaD8: 8:10am On Jul 06, 2014 |
roland2rule: PLS HOW CAN I LEAD REVOLUTION AGAINST THIS FUTURE DESTROYERSOpen a thread on it, and you will be addressed accordingly. Methink its high time we destroy the destroyers. Mod, please front page. This pieces of information concern everybody- students or parent. 5 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 9:43am On Jul 06, 2014 |
Please name one country with a population over 100 million that gives free university education. Only one example please.NOTHING in this life is free.The handwriting has been on the wall a long time.Nigerians have an attitude of ENTITLEMENT and that explains partly why you see 27 year olds living at home with their parents collecting pocket money. We need less university education and more vocational TRAINING. Are those people in universities better than those who learn trades? Does government contribute anything to the training of tailors,mechanics,Bricklayers,Vulcanizers etc How are those cultists in universities claiming to be studying economics and politics etc more deserving of government funding than those training as hairdressers and butchers or poultry farmers?? I believe that education should be free up to the age of 18 i.e secondary school or Vocational training. University education of good quality cannot be free.We should not compromise quality because we want everyone to have it This is how universities should work: The universities should operate like a petrol station. No pay no admission They should be stand-alone entities independent of government. They should determine the actual cost of educating each student .Without this information we are deceiving ourselves. Sometime people just refuse to look into the mirror because they are afraid of what they might see. Having determined the cost we can now have a discussion about how to pay for it. That way the issue of underfunding universities will not come about . Government will then declare how many students they can afford to pay for and how they are going to allocate those resources. Otherwise government forces universities to over-admit and we end up with students sitting on the floor and aisles. 52 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 10:13am On Jul 06, 2014 |
penny01502: this a short way of saying education should be only for the richThat is sentiment. Going to university is not the only way to get educated. The more important question is what is the cost of one university placement of good quality. Lagos state claims it is about 500000 naira a year which for a 4 year programme is 2 million naira in 2010 there were 1.5 million admissions which would come to 3 trillion naira for 4 years or .75 trillion annually or 15% of the FG on University education alone for 1% of the population .In my book 15% of the budget on 1 % of the population does not make sense especially when you consider that this is just on their education they will still benefit from other parts of the budget e.g health etc just like everyone else. We need to learn to analyse more and stop being sentimental. 15 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by weezii(m): 11:59am On Jul 06, 2014 |
iwonbaoko: Please name one country with a population over 100 million that gives free university education. Only one example please.NOTHING in this life is free.The handwriting has been on the wall a long time.Nigerians have an attitude of ENTITLEMENT and that explains partly why you see 27 year olds living at home with their parents collecting pocket money. We need less university education and more vocational TRAINING. |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 1:01pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
Na them sabi. After everything they go still strike for 2 years. 1 Like |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 1:06pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
iwonbaoko: Please name one country with a population over 100 million that gives free university education. Only one example please.NOTHING in this life is free.The handwriting has been on the wall a long time.Nigerians have an attitude of ENTITLEMENT and that explains partly why you see 27 year olds living at home with their parents collecting pocket money. We need less university education and more vocational TRAINING.LMAO. Do you know they don't pay school fees in Finland? Do you know they don't have oil? If we are to pay fees we should adopt the bursary and student loan system used in the USA. 22 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 1:27pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
Apatheist:What is LMAO? is that short hand for poverty of ideas? What is the population of Finland?? under 6 million= less than Lagos State What is the GDP per capita $36000 and Nigeria $1800 = 20 times that of Nigeria Nigeria has a GDP per capita of $1800 = 270000 Naira . This is NOT all government money but the TOTAL ECONOMIC OUTPUT of the nation Bear in Mind that the Federal Government has only a fraction of that(10%) e.g with its recent budget of 4 trillion = 26 666 Naira per citizen Finland is 20 times richer than Nigeria. The FG with a budget of 27000 Naira per citizen will subsidize petrol , give you free education,build roads and pay salaries Your analogy is like an okada rider's son saying that he wants a Blackberry phone because Dangote's son has one What I wrote which I hope you read before your unsolicited quote is clear. Is there any country with a population of 100 million that offers free university education. Of what relevance is oil to the discussion. FYI oil is less than 30% of our GDP and not all the revenue from oil goes to government Is money derived from oil different from money derived from selling fish or chicken? http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PETR.RT.ZS In 2010 1.5 million people were admitted to university .What is the annual cost of giving these people genuine education that will add value to them and society. What is the optimal ratio of Lecturer/student or are we just turning out so called "graduates" no better that secondary students. Can government afford to pay 500000 on 1.5 million students annually? Are they the only ones in the country? It is shameful that we have adults who presumably have been to some kind of tertiary education program who cannot analyze logically. 32 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 1:46pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
iwonbaoko: What is LMAO? is that short hand for poverty of ideas? A country with a tiny population makes more money than Nigeria. You must be proud of yourself. Bear in Mind that the Federal Government has only a fraction of that(10%) e.g with its recent budget of 4 trillion = 26 666 Naira per citizen No they won't. Even if you had 10 times that amount they'll still embezzle it. Your analogy is like an okada rider's son saying that he wants a Blackberry phone because Dangote's son has one Nigeria is more populated and has oil. All other things being equal we should be one of the richest nations on earth. A tiny country with the population of Edo state i# richer b] far a;d gives you millions in aid yearly. You should hang your head in shame. What I wrote which I hope you read before your unsolicited quote is clear. What has population got to do with education? With a small population they're many times richer. Now imagine them with our population. Of what relevance is oil to the discussion. FYI oil is less than 30% of our GDP and not all the revenue from oil goes to government Gdp is different from foreign income. 90% of your earnings is from oil. Is money derived from oil different from money derived from selling fish or chicken? http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PETR.RT.ZSNo, but oil is more valuable and we have it in excess. 36 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 1:54pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
Apatheist:I am sorry but your "mentality" as Fela would call it is low. You do not have the tools to debate this subject. Your father should not just hang his head but hang himself 10 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Handcuff: 2:43pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
roland2rule: PLS HOW CAN I LEAD REVOLUTION AGAINST THIS FUTURE DESTROYERS Go enrol in any MILLITANT GROUP, or maybe MILITARY, then Stage a coup 1 Like |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 2:50pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
iwonbaoko:That was the best you could come up with? Would it kill women to swallow once in a while so idiots wouldn't be brought into this world 41 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 5:19pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
iwonbaoko: That is sentiment. Going to university is not the only way to get educated. The more important question is what is the cost of one university placement of good quality. Lagos state claims it is about 500000 naira a year which for a 4 year programme is 2 million naira in 2010 there were 1.5 million admissions which would come to 3 trillion naira for 4 years or .75 trillion annually or 15% of the FG on University education alone for 1% of the population .In my book 15% of the budget on 1 % of the population does not make sense especially when you consider that this is just on their education they will still benefit from other parts of the budget e.g health etc just like everyone else. We need to learn to analyse more and stop being sentimental....you actually mean there are 1.5 million admissions per year in Nigeria?...methink you are wrong. Though i reason with your position, i still won't succumb to it. In the UK, the cost of studying MSc genetic medicine for an international student is £22,000, for a UK citizen it is just £7,500...with an option of applying for a student loan which is payable over a course of 10yrs. M talking of the University college, London, the GDP is beyond $35,000. The thing is nobody is saying we shouldn't pay for tuition....but the fact is that we cannot pay tuition in a country with a GDP of $1,500, with an unemployment rate of 17%....in a country in which a professor earn only $20,000! And the minimum wage is $110. Let the country correct these anomalies then i would personally lead the march for the support of tuition payment. But for now, that pepper seller (who make only averagely 300 a day) must be able to train his child to become a doctor in any public institution on this shore. 20 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 5:43pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
Samakinr:There is a difference between the COST and the PRICE of a thing in this case fees as far as the UK is concerned. What I am talking about is the cost of providing the service by the provider. The fees for home students in England are subsidized partly and 100% in Scotland. I do not like to engage in arguments without facts. The issue is not about whether it would be nice for everyone to have university education. The issue is what does it cost to provide quality education and how many slots can we afford annually. If we decide we want to do that fine but we must budget for it. To admit 10000 people into a school designed for 1000 asking students to sit on the floor is self deception. We must remember that students are not the only stakeholders.Employers are too.Even if we deceive students and their parents by awarding them degrees that do not pass muster can we deceive employers? Employment is competition. Do we not do our students a disservice if we allow them to acquire degrees that are clearly inferior to other degrees acquired by rich kids from top schools? We must put a price on education and BUDGET for it then we will know what we can and what we cannot afford that is how logical countries operate not on speculative guesses that "we ought to be able to" etc all of that is meaningless. 5 Likes |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 6:07pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
iwonbaoko:....okay this' better. Your post afore this one was vague, this' more clear. |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by princeonx: 6:25pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
penny01502: this a short way of saying education should be only for the rich
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Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Businesstools(m): 6:26pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
The one students have been paying, What is it called? 3 Likes
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Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by curiouslad(m): 6:30pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
This kind of policy would effectively kill the middle class |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by Nobody: 6:30pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
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Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by OkikiOluwa1(m): 6:31pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
Abeg, I m an illiterate. I don't understand English! What's a tuition fee? In Nigeria, its a school fee? Last Bullet When they eventually agree on paying the so called tuition fees, hope it won't be outrageous but affordable fees. Hope our Federal Universities ll not go crazy like Lagos State University or Olabisi Onabanjo University & other unkind Universities that doesn't consider the middle class or the poor. Enough said! |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by blogexpert12(m): 6:31pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
Re: Federal Universities Should Have Tuition Fees - Pro-Chancellors by lafuria1(m): 6:33pm On Jul 06, 2014 |
Sustainability is key, increased tuition and yet the quality doesn't improve rather the allowance of the lecturers would increase. Most of the Universities are not helping themselves, they are ways to seek for money, Majorly through research grant. Bring up a good research idea and sell the idea to government and private companies to sponsor. You measure quality of Universities by the quality of research project and papers published, would increase in tuition fees lead increase in more funded research projects? Answers appears no. Lastly, with the economy level of Nigeria presently , including tuition will lead to lot of school drop out,. Ever wondered why there are students loans in the US and UK because they want to minimize students leaving because they can't afford it. Their 3 Likes |
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