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Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by dtito(m): 9:02am On Aug 20, 2014

asalimpo:

Except u signed up with the bio page of your international passport and an iris/fingerprint scan. We are all "unverified entities" here.

*
Y don't u loosen up instead.
The guy likes u.
cutie. Dear.
Next, he'll send kisses.(if his conscience will allow him do tht on this sterile section. Full of celibate code monkeys. Married to their computers)
*

Lol.

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by dtito(m): 9:25am On Aug 20, 2014

MizMyColi: Okay, I'll send them @ work, I'll PM you first for your email addy. I live in Lagos, Nigeria.

How r ya dear...just dey remind ya....hope u gud?

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by BabaGnoni: 12:20pm On Aug 21, 2014

@Ymodulus
- Thanks!

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by Ymodulus: 2:20pm On Aug 21, 2014

BabaGnoni: @Ymodulus
- Thanks!

your phone no please. or can you check my profile and get mine??

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by BabaGnoni: 2:44pm On Aug 21, 2014

Ymodulus:

your phone no please. or can you check my profile and get mine??

Please check your gmail addy Ymodulus. Thanks!

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by Ymodulus: 4:32pm On Aug 21, 2014

BabaGnoni:
Please check your gmail addy Ymodulus. Thanks!

REPLIED YOU

I Have corrected it and made the code smaller however i didnt test run it. but i believe this should work now

<?php

Class Ymodulus
{

public $newComers;

public function welcomes(string $newComer)
{
return (in_array($newComers, $this->newComer) ? true : false;
}

}

//Usage

$ymodulus = new Ymodulus();
$ymodulus->newComers = ['MizMyColi', 'other New Bie'];
$result = Ymodulus->welcomes('MizMyColi');

echo ($result === true ) ? 'MizMyColi Ymodulus welcomes you too the
world of php': 'sorry not yet welcomed by ymodulus';

1 Like

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by BabaGnoni: 5:22pm On Aug 21, 2014

Ymodulus:

REPLIED YOU

I Have corrected it and made the code smaller however i didnt test run it. but i believe this should work now

<?php

Class Ymodulus
{

public $newComers;

public function welcomes(string $newComer)
{
return (in_array($newComers, $this->newComer) ? true : false;
}

}

//Usage

$ymodulus = new Ymodulus();
$ymodulus->newComers = ['MizMyColi', 'other New Bie'];
$result = Ymodulus->welcomes('MizMyColi');

echo ($result === true ) ? 'MizMyColi Ymodulus welcomes you too the
world of php': 'sorry not yet welcomed by ymodulus';

Ymodulus, thanks but the edit is still failing as seen above and the following below
(i.e. FATAL ERROR syntax error, unexpected '[' on line number 7 )

The original one (i.e. the first one done) was failing with a different error
(i.e. FATAL ERROR syntax error, unexpected ';' on line number 9)

Maybe after going over it again,
it'll be great, if you can comment what you're doing, as it seems you've used a class, public static function, maybe a constant, also seems an array etc and what the expected output should be

PS: The corrected last one too (i.e. the below one) fails with:
FATAL ERROR syntax error, unexpected ';' on line number 9

<?php
Class Ymodulus
{

public $newComers;

public function welcomes(string $newComer)
{
return (in_array($newComers, $this->newComer) ? true : false;
}

}

//Usage

$ymodulus = new Ymodulus();
$ymodulus->newComers = ['MizMyColi', 'other New Bie'];
$result = Ymodulus->welcomes('MizMyColi');

echo ($result === true ) ? 'MizMyColi Ymodulus welcomes you too the
world of php': 'sorry not yet welcomed by ymodulus';
?>

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by BabaGnoni: 6:34pm On Aug 21, 2014

@Ymodulus, I give up, this is how I edited it:

<?php

// one of my edited earlier versions

class Wannabephp {
/*** define public properties ***/

/*** the newcomer of Wannabephp ***/
public $newcomer;

/*** define public methods ***/
/*** method to find if newcomer to Wannabephp is welcomed or not ***/
public function find_newcomer($who_newcomer) {
$this->newcomer = $who_newcomer;
$check_newcomer = array('MizMyColi','other New Bie');
return (in_array( $who_newcomer,$check_newcomer)) ? true : false;

}

}
//usage
$wannabephp = new Wannabephp ();
$wannabephp-> newcomer = 'MizMyColi';
$wannabephp-> check_newcomer = array('MizMyColi', 'other New Bie');
$result = $wannabephp->find_newcomer('MizMyColi');
if($result === true ){

echo 'MizMyColi, Ymodulus welcomes you too the world of php';
}else{
echo ' sorry not yet welcomed by ymodulus';
}
?>

and here's a second or another another edited version which outputs as above (i.e. MizMyColi, Ymodulus welcomes you too the world of php )
but with the below tagging along:

NOTICE Undefined variable: other_newcomer on line number 13

<?php
/*** define class ***/
class Wannabephp {

/*** define public properties ***/

/*** the newcomer to Wannabephp ***/
public $newcomer;

/*** define public methods ***/
/*** method to find if newcomer to Wannabephp is welcomed or not ***/
public function find_newcomer($who_newcomer){
//$this->newcomer = $who_newcomer;
$check_newcomer = array($who_newcomer, $other_newcomer);
return (in_array( $who_newcomer,$check_newcomer)) ? true : false;

/*** not sure above line's needed, as in this line $this->newcomer = $who_newcomer;
Works though, still stored in memory
Works though when not commented, as will be stored in memory
Sorry it's a bit messy LOL**/
}

}
//usage
$wannabephp = new Wannabephp();
// $wannabephp-> newcomer = 'MizMyColi';
//$wannabephp-> check_newcomer = array('MizMyColi', 'other newbie');
$result = $wannabephp->find_newcomer('MizMyColi');
if($result === true ){

echo 'MizMyColi, Ymodulus welcomes you too the world of php';
}else{
echo ' Sorry not yet welcomed by Ymodulus';
}

?>

Comment(s) and/or correction(s) welcome

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by Ymodulus: 12:45pm On Aug 22, 2014

Its correct.

I can see you are using php5.3 tester. Prior to php5.3 arrays are in this format.

$newComers =array ('MizMyColi', 'etc');

From Php 5.4 above we had

$newComers = ['MizMyColi', 'etc'];

Its called short array syntax. Php were trying to copy Python way of dictionaries.

http://php.net/manual/en/migration54.new-features.php

You understand now??

<?php

Class Ymodulus
{

/**
* This properties is meant to hold a list of new comers
*/
public $newComers;

/**
* This method is meant to determine if a student is in the list of newcomers
*@Param string $newComer | i casted the variable to always return a string.
*@return boolean. true|false. true if name is in list of newComers and false if its not.
*/
public function welcomes(string $newComer)
{
# here i am checking for the user inputed name in the array. Note am using the short form of if / else statement.
return (in_array($newComers, $this->newComer)) ? true : false;
}

}

//Usage

$ymodulus = new Ymodulus();
$ymodulus->newComers =['MizMyColi', 'other New Bie'];
$result = Ymodulus->welcomes('MizMyColi');

echo ($result === true ) ? 'MizMyColi Ymodulus welcomes you too the world of php': 'sorry not yet welcomed by ymodulus';

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by dasanchez1(m): 5:46pm On Aug 22, 2014

Ymodulus: Its correct.

I can see you are using php5.3 tester. Prior to php5.3 arrays are in this format.

$newComers =array ('MizMyColi', 'etc');

From Php 5.4 above we had

$newComers = ['MizMyColi', 'etc'];

Its called short array syntax. Php were trying to copy Python way of dictionaries.

http://php.net/manual/en/migration54.new-features.php

You understand now??

<?php

Class Ymodulus
{

/**
* This properties is meant to hold a list of new comers
*/
public $newComers;

/**
* This method is meant to determine if a student is in the list of newcomers
*@Param string $newComer | i casted the variable to always return a string.
*@return boolean. true|false. true if name is in list of newComers and false if its not.
*/
public function welcomes(string $newComer)
{
# here i am checking for the user inputed name in the array. Note am using the short form of if / else statement.
return (in_array($newComers, $this->newComer)) ? true : false;
}

}

//Usage

$ymodulus = new Ymodulus();
$ymodulus->newComers =['MizMyColi', 'other New Bie'];
$result = Ymodulus->welcomes('MizMyColi');

echo ($result === true ) ? 'MizMyColi Ymodulus welcomes you too the world of php': 'sorry not yet welcomed by ymodulus';

this is my first time on this section. Ymodulus{ great oga boss},u gat knowledge for advance import biz and programming; this one is strong. wicked combination i swear. your tips has really made me what i am 2day. so happy to learn from your words of advice.[ i keep on saying this everywhere i go ]. i will pay you back one day by the grace of God. THANK YOU . cheesy

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by BabaGnoni: 5:59pm On Aug 22, 2014

Ymodulus: Its correct.

Its called short array syntax. Php were trying to copy Python way of dictionaries.

http://php.net/manual/en/migration54.new-features.php

You understand now??

<?php

Class Ymodulus
{

/**
* This properties is meant to hold a list of new comers
*/
public $newComers;

/**
* This method is meant to determine if a student is in the list of newcomers
*@Param string $newComer | i casted the variable to always return a string.
*@return boolean. true|false. true if name is in list of newComers and false if its not.
*/
public function welcomes(string $newComer)
{
# here i am checking for the user inputed name in the array. Note am using the short form of if / else statement.
return (in_array($newComers, $this->newComer)) ? true : false;
}

}

//Usage

$ymodulus = new Ymodulus();
$ymodulus->newComers =['MizMyColi', 'other New Bie'];
$result = Ymodulus->welcomes('MizMyColi');

echo ($result === true ) ? 'MizMyColi Ymodulus welcomes you too the world of php': 'sorry not yet welcomed by ymodulus';

Ymodulus thanks again but still no joy yet...

Yep, I did notice the short form if/else conditional statement
however as seen from the above screenshot capture,
whether it's PHP 5.4 or 5.5, it is still failing with the above error message
- when 5.4 is used, a different error message to when 5.5 is displayed

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by Ymodulus: 5:18am On Aug 23, 2014

BabaGnoni:

Ymodulus thanks again but still no joy yet...

Yep, I did notice the short form if/else conditional statement
however as seen from the above screenshot capture,
whether it's PHP 5.4 or 5.5, it is still failing with the above error message
- when 5.4 is used, a different error message to when 5.5 is displayed

ok. i had to fire up my server, text editor and browser and i had to test the code this time. see

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

<?php

Class Ymodulus
{

/**
* This properties is meant to hold a list of new comers
*/
public $newComers;

/**
* This method is meant to determine if a student is in the list of newcomers
*@Param string $newComer | i casted the variable to always return a string.
*@return boolean. true|false. true if name is in list of newComers and false if its not.
*/
public function welcomes( $newComer)
{
# here i am checking for the user inputed name in the array. Note am using the short form of if / else statement.
return (in_array($newComer, $this->newComers)) ? true : false;
}

}

//Usage

$ymodulus = new Ymodulus();
$ymodulus->newComers =['MizMyColi', 'other New Bie'];
$result = $ymodulus->welcomes('MizMyColi');

echo ($result === true ) ? 'MizMyColi Ymodulus welcomes you too the world of php': 'sorry not yet welcomed by ymodulus';

[size=14pt]# Now this is bug free and it works. i tested it myself[/size]

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by Ymodulus: 5:31am On Aug 23, 2014

dasanchez1: this is my first time on this section. Ymodulus{ great oga boss},u gat knowledge for advance import biz and programming; this one is strong. wicked combination i swear. your tips has really made me what i am 2day. so happy to learn from your words of advice.[ i keep on saying this everywhere i go ]. i will pay you back one day by the grace of God. THANK YOU .

thanks

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by Ymodulus: 6:33am On Aug 23, 2014

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by dasanchez1(m): 6:52am On Aug 23, 2014

Ymodulus:

thanks

indeed

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by BabaGnoni: 7:31am On Aug 23, 2014

Ymodulus:

ok. i had to fire up my server, text editor and browser and i had to test the code this time. see
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

<?php

Class Ymodulus
{

/**
* This properties is meant to hold a list of new comers
*/
public $newComers;

/**
* This method is meant to determine if a student is in the list of newcomers
*@Param string $newComer | i casted the variable to always return a string.
*@return boolean. true|false. true if name is in list of newComers and false if its not.
*/
public function welcomes( $newComer)
{
# here i am checking for the user inputed name in the array. Note am using the short form of if / else statement.
return (in_array($newComer, $this->newComers)) ? true : false;
}

}

//Usage

$ymodulus = new Ymodulus();
$ymodulus->newComers =['MizMyColi', 'other New Bie'];
$result = $ymodulus->welcomes('MizMyColi');

echo ($result === true ) ? 'MizMyColi Ymodulus welcomes you too the world of php': 'sorry not yet welcomed by ymodulus';

[size=14pt]# Now this is bug free and it works. i tested it myself[/size]

Sweet success! Yep it is now. Ran it myself and as seen above, it worked like a charm (i.e. the $ymodulus handle on line 30 did it)
Thanks Ymodulus. You the man! Cheers

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by Ymodulus: 8:26am On Aug 23, 2014

BabaGnoni:

Sweet success! Yep it is now. Ran it myself and as seen above, it worked like a charm (i.e. the $ymodulus handle on line 30 did it)
Thanks Ymodulus. You the man! Cheers

Thanks you welcome. if i might ask why were you so interedted in the codes?

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by BabaGnoni: 6:29pm On Aug 23, 2014

Ymodulus:

Thanks you welcome. if i might ask why were you so interedted in the codes?

The OOP syntax used in it.

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by Ymodulus: 7:25pm On Aug 23, 2014

BabaGnoni:

The OOP syntax used in it.

ok. you just learning oop?

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by kaboninc(m): 8:04am On Aug 25, 2014

Biko everybody let's get back to the topic.

1 Like

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by elvis10ten(m): 8:55pm On Aug 25, 2014

read this at op.

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Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by MizMyColi(f): 11:26am On Aug 26, 2014

Thank You.

elvis10ten: read this at op.

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by elvis10ten(m): 4:37pm On Aug 26, 2014

MizMyColi:
Thank You.

ur welcome

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Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by dtito(m): 4:36pm On Sep 02, 2014

MizMyColi:

eiisshhhh

I To'ally Forgot!

OReilly.Head.First.SQL.very_good_quality.pdf

OReilly.head.first_scwcd.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.Javascript.2007.0596527748.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.Java.2nd.edition.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.iPhone.Development.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.HTMLwithCSSXHTML.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.EJB.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.Design_Patterns.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.Ajax.(2008.08).pdf

OReilly.Head.First.A.Learner's.Guide.to.Programming.Using.the.Python.Language.pdf

OReilly,.Head.First.Software.Development.(2007).[0596527357].pdf

OReilly.Head.First.Object.Oriented.Analysis.and.Design.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.Networking.pdf

Which would you like, I couldn't send them all, even if I'd like to because they're massive, you get?

hello miz...stilll waiting for d e-books....tanx

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by MizMyColi(f): 4:45pm On Sep 02, 2014

Oh my!

So sorryy

Please indicate which and your email addy.

I to'ally forgot, again! undecided

dtito: hello miz...stilll waiting for d e-books....tanx

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by dtito(m): 6:20pm On Sep 02, 2014

[quote author=MizMyColi]
Oh my! shocked

So sorryy

Please indicate which and your email addy.

I to'ally forgot, again! undecided

.[/quote

OReilly.Head.First.iPhone.Development.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.HTMLwithCSSXHTML.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.A.Learner's.Guide.to.Programming.Using.the.Python.Language.pdf

OReilly,.Head.First.Software.Development.(2007).[0596527357].pdf

OReilly.Head.First.Networking.pdf

Dunagha@gmail.com

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by Nobody: 12:29pm On Sep 03, 2014

Good question bro and kudos to the dope guys with nice comments.
To me I believe programmers are d people that that understand why " 2 + 2 = 4 " , The truth behind programming is mathematics (application of mathematical theory to solve a problem) simple!

I started web technology at the age of 19 before I gain admission to study computer science am saying this so that you can pick somethings ok, if you don't love the game don't waste your time playing it.

Am not saying that you must study computer science for you to become a programmer but if you want to become a successful one you must study something related to computer science and or mathematics. And if u are not that good in mathematics like me (*smile*) dnt let it put you down all need to do is to create for love for it.

Am a singer but I also develop myself as a programmer and at 22 I publish my first window app "Atoxx" a web browser in which we use in my department laboratory to surf d internet and also a multimedia player.

So bro don't give up and never stop learning.
By time I wil be 25 hmmmm let me keep that to myself...na naija we dey.

I was not born as a programmer but I was made one.

" There are so many to ways to get " 4"as answer in mathematics "
- fred eto

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by asalimpo(m): 1:01pm On Sep 03, 2014

fredeto: Good question bro and kudos to the dope guys with nice comments.
To me I believe programmers are d people that that understand why " 2 + 2 = 4 " , The truth behind programming is mathematics (application of mathematical theory to solve a problem) simple!

I started web technology at the age of 19 before I gain admission to study computer science am saying this so that you can pick somethings ok, if you don't love the game don't waste your time playing it.

Am not saying that you must study computer science for you to become a programmer but if you want to become a successful one you must study something related to computer science and or mathematics. And if u are not that good in mathematics like me (*smile*) dnt let it put you down all need to do is to create for love for it.

Am a singer but I also develop myself as a programmer and at 22 I publish my first window app "Atoxx" a web browser in which we use in my department laboratory to surf d internet and also a multimedia player.

So bro don't give up and never stop learning.
By time I wil be 25 hmmmm let me keep that to myself...na naija we dey.

I was not born as a programmer but I was made one.

" There are so many to ways to get " 4"as answer in mathematics "
- fred eto

kudos. Your web browser. Y does'nt ur dept use available ones: opera,firefox,ie etc
?
By the time ur 25 we'll b here to celebrate with you. Keep truckg.

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by LordRahl001: 9:05am On Sep 06, 2014

I think the more u give sm1 freedom, the harder it is to comply or understand!! What am saying is in programming, there is freedom of expression, it doesn't matter how u solve d question, as long as u arrive @ d correct answer and it gets d job done, then its fine at first!! The human mind is so adapted to following defined rules which is what makes programmers different!! So if u can get out of d barrier of basic thinking, norms, as usual and reason in a whole new direction, new ways to solve a problem, and u could involve urself in creative thinking then u r gud!! Its not learning d language that's d ish, its actually abt solving a real-life problem wit it that matters!! Cheers

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by dtito(m): 4:36pm On Sep 07, 2014

MizMyColi:
What is it about programmers that makes them thick

The statement above is one of sincere ignorance and envy

Are [Great] programmers born or made?

The recent public announcements made by the admin of this forum got me thinking out loud:

"If only I understand this their language, I would be in the know if this guy is trying to play on my intelligence or just being plain sincere"

"if only, if only, if only."

I come to this board more oft with the intent to contribute even a "good morning" and then I feel so out of place, yet I'm interested in programming....coding especially [I hope the two words do not mean the same]

I've only heard of HTML and CSS recently, A friend even volunteered to teach me and the only thing I could grasp from his lesson - which btw I'm not quite sure of now is "How to differentiate a CSS website from an HTML website"

Another friend sent me loads of e-books on programming and ~~hacking~~ for beginners and I just couldn't get past the first stage, yet I want to be like you guys

I guess the reason I loose interest is because I'm the relational kind (I love people). If I can't relate with what is being taught as it pertains to people/humans....then I'm likely to lose interest.

The epistle above is a call for help.
1). I want to be able to contribute meaningfully to this section (with time)

2). Are programmers born or made (can just about anyone become a programmer with the right tutoring)?

Teach me. Anyone please?

i wanna remind you to send me does eboks as u promised....i know u busy..tanks

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by dtito(m): 11:21am On Sep 09, 2014

pls anybody should help me with pdf on web develpment, software develpment etc.. i really need it.....the OP dey too busy to remember ma request to her.....anyon pls.....dunagha@gmail.com

Re: Are Programmers Born Or Made? by dtito(m): 1:52pm On Sep 09, 2014

MizMyColi:
Oh my!

So sorryy

Please indicate which and your email addy.

I to'ally forgot, again! .

OReilly.Head.First.iPhone.Development.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.HTMLwithCSSXHTML.pdf

OReilly.Head.First.A.Learner's.Guide.to.Programming.Using.the.Python.Language.pdf

OReilly,.Head.First.Software.Development.(2007).[0596527357].pdf

OReilly.Head.First.Networking.pdf

Dunagha@gmail.com
Tanx sweet

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