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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by chioma134: 4:32pm On Jul 10, 2014
wellmax:
Chioma I see the level of your intelligence. Its okay.
I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by peter4d2(m): 4:39pm On Jul 10, 2014
KingTom: As an undergraduate, for six years I did not have time for myself, no girlfriend, some food, nothing. After graduation someone who knows nothing about medicine starts talking rubbish. Those saying we are show-offs. If e pain you, go back school!
grin grin grin

U shuld hv also fasted during d cos of acquiring u degree since u lik 2 feel like demigods n I know ur 1 of dose pple who fink doc's r second 2 non.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by kayLion(m): 4:40pm On Jul 10, 2014
Ceasar1: If you didn't finish reading it like me.. you know what to do. grin
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Winning10(f): 4:41pm On Jul 10, 2014
"The gods must be crazy"

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by damimola(m): 4:47pm On Jul 10, 2014
Nigeria....my nigeria
why do we fight and compare to be divided
-B.sc vs HND
-Hausa vs Ibo vs Yoruba
-soldiers vs police
-private universities vs government universities
-PDP vs APC vs ETC
-Garri vs Semo
now doctors vs JOHESU

I believe every career life has its uniqueness.we should learn to develop our career self esteem rather than fighting for positions, money and living in envy.An engineer will remain an engineer to a doctor and vice versa,so it applies to other professions.
At this time in Nigeria,we have more important problem than this,this people(NMA and JOHESU) should come together and work toward improving their practice in the country and how they will make the healthcare better. Research institutions,career specialization institutes and centers which are absent in the country would have just been a good option for other professions in the healthcare sector
A lot of things are just wrong in Nigeria.
we need an holistic evaluation of everything in the country but in the mean time,let the doctors and the JOHESU lay down their prides and lets save Nigeria's today and tomorrow

God bless Nigeria

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 4:48pm On Jul 10, 2014
Vivipop: Too lengthy and I'm so not in the mood.
But then,give to Ceasar1 what belongs to Ceasar.

Hi. grin

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by wellmax(m): 4:51pm On Jul 10, 2014
chioma134:
I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks.

Salute.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 4:51pm On Jul 10, 2014
Djtm: They are just pissing me off!!! Wtf? Our government is a very useless one for this sort of crap to be going on! What's their own concern about how much other specialists are paid? As long as you're paid what you're worth, you shouldn't care about what others earn. If a programmer has worked for a certain number of years, has so much experience under his belt, he has the right to become a consultant programmer. IMO, doctors are overhyped in Nigeria. Well, our leaders do not give a sh1t, so people can continue to die as long as they can afford to go abroad once they have a slight headache.
you don't seems to understand the isssue; nobody is against any health worker becoming a SPECIALIST and earning a SPECIALIST ALLOWANCE but the title CONSULTANT as used in nigerian hospitals today is the problem.
A hospital CONSULTANT is a medical doctor who after his undergraduate medical training enroll for a post-graduate residency training for a minimun of 5 years depending on the specialty to specialise in one aspect of medicine. This broad and deep knowledg and skills confers some level of responsibility on him; he takes FINAL decision concerning patient management in his specialty.
The training he undergo is supervised and regulated by an agency of government; national post graduate medical college and the certificate recognize by MDCN.
The scheme of service for medical doctors also recognizes this title: house officer, registrar.................. consultant special grade 1.
The FG decided to ward this title to people with no criteria, no agency responsible for training, without CLEAR CUT JOB DESCRIPTION. This will only bring anarchy to the system as those so appointed will give to themselves the position and responsibilities of CONSULTANT MEDICAL DOCTOR.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Tonyblinky(m): 4:53pm On Jul 10, 2014
Is it only Nigeria that have doctors?they are just a show off,not necessarily having the intent of saving lives
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Karleb(m): 4:53pm On Jul 10, 2014
Docs are trying? I agree.

But the fact that they are now to be referred to as small gods is what I don't really get. undecided

Even in the yeye article, the lame writer was talking about sacrificing new born babies just because they(docs) want increament, whereas if na Nigerian govt try that one we go dey call them different kind of name, especially if na chibok.

My humble contribution is this: Docs fight for your money and stop being egoistic, 'cos telling new born babies to go to hell is just too illogical.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Oduduwaboy(m): 4:53pm On Jul 10, 2014
Lubbish * in onitsha man voice *
This is just emotional balder rash ...it ain't funny ...
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by emog17(m): 4:54pm On Jul 10, 2014
Onlinebizexpert: Do I blame her no.........


If she knew that what it took me to pass a test of five marks in medical school is the same as what it took her to pass a degree exam of 100 marks

What is keshi doing that he is demanding a salary of 10 million naira per month

What did a senator read that his salary can foot the salaries of 25 professors of medicine


If people knew that the fight to aknswer consultant by other medically inclined professions is simply a ploy to assume power

Having another consultant In the hospital is the same as having two captains in a ship

I will not blame funke she is trying to sell her newspaper by writing such a demeaning article to the people who can elongate the line between life and death after GOD

I don't expect funke to understand because unlike her I have to read 3 courses (anatomy,physiology,biochemistry) which lasts for about 15 years in just 18 months and am expected to be better than the person that reads just one of the aforementioned courses and yet such a person wants to assume a post that that takes a doctor an average of 25years to reach


I won't blame funke because maybe in her world a footballer like Mikel can demand for the title of world best player just like messi and c ronaldo by just playing back pass


U claim its greed but I think its the right thing

If I should be in charge of your life in your weakest moments don't you think I should be financially emotionally and psychologically stable....


Do I blame funke and some professional jambites on naira land for their articles and comments respectively.....no I wont



Why don't you whole lot contest for the position of GOD who created the universe because we can give both to humans

I am not in support of a situation whereby patients are punished for the crime of others but till we as a country get it right by giving honour to whom it is due we can never make a head way


To funke keep writing what you think is right afterall its your job and you are paid to do so



But one thing is sure[b] IF TWO ELEPHANTS FIGHT THE GRASSES WILL SUFFER[/b]

That's all I can say for now, falter my points if you have the facts.........thanks again
Nice one bro.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by creativeEngr: 4:56pm On Jul 10, 2014
It's much easier to argue for or against Doctors on this faceless forum so I wouldn't start by doing so. Rather, I'll start by helping us to see the bigger picture.

When you look at the earnings of the most irrelevant sector of our society ( i.e. the political class ), then you'll start to understand the real issues here.. I stand to be corrected if wrong but as I write, ASUP is still on strike... I can bet that if all other unions could wield as much power as ASUU, NMA, JOHESU and NUPENG, they'll try their luck afterall, who wouldn't love a bigger slice of the National Cake? Every interest group is just concerned about having a larger share of the National cake..

Until, we speak with one voice as citizens and prevail on Government to reduce the cost of governance, we'll continue to experience one senseless strike after another, all for a larger slice of the cake after all, if one group even earns a "Bleep..g" allowance for producing nothing but chaos and constantly "heating the polity..." why shouldn't other groups get more... let alone those who "save lives..."

Back to the Doctors... I've read comments like "we spend 6 or more years in school, others spend 4 years and so on..." Hey, na by force? Such is a reflection of the "I better pass my neighbor mentality," in our society, otherwise, no Doctor should have no preferential treatment over any other professional because the last time I checked, Doctor's need nurses, pharmacists, laboratory technicians, soldiers, policemen, accountants, engineers, lawyers, artisans, mechanics, cleaners just as we all need Doctors so what the heck is really going on here!!!

The average Nigerian Doctor is arrogant because Society has made him/her believe he/she is superior to others and that is also evident in the nature of their demands ... ! Ironically, the private hospitals are mostly owned by the mid-level to senior Doctors in the Govt. Hospitals who won't allow Govt. hospitals function as effectively as they should because of their own private interests...

There is no sector of society that is functioning as it should and as such, everybody should go on strike until the political class lives up to its responsibility and does the needful towards making the society better... this won't happen, at least not overnight.

Until that happens, we just must that accept that indeed the small gods (i.e. doctors) are crazy but the bigger gods (the government) are crazier! The biggest gods (you and I) who allow our country to run by mediocre people remain the craziest of all... We are all at the mercy of the small crazy consultant gods...

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by tuoyoojo(m): 4:57pm On Jul 10, 2014
One tin is clear here, all theses e anti doctor warriors shouting that doctors is sh*t shud kindly continue.

The naked truth is that your opnion doesnt count.

While u guys are there ranting , our demands are being met. Very soon alert go enter

Singing ..."they see me rolling, they hatin"

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by armadeo(m): 5:00pm On Jul 10, 2014
annoymous:

You are so simple, I can't even start trading words with you.

To think that he could actually say this publicly. PS NDA is 5yrs. If at all he is an officer.

Maybe another person wanting to claim what he is not.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 5:01pm On Jul 10, 2014
I have always been against incessant strikes by labour unions but since most Nlanders supported ASUU strike (for whatever reason), they should also support doctors strike. What is good for the goose should also be good for the gander.

Meanwhile, do we really need a "CONSULTANT" nurse/medical radiographer/lab technician/lab scientist/pharmacists/cleaner in the hospital? How many Nlanders who are rich enough to establish standard hospital would require the services of one such "CONSULTANTS"? Which of the ills affecting the Nigerian health care system can we attribute to absence of the above "consultants"?

The creation of such "consultants" would not in any way improve the healthcare delivery system. In fact, it will create chaos and confusion in the system.

However, I agree with the submission that doctors and other health professionals should leave the management/day-day running of the hospital for experts in this areas. Doctors and other healthcare professionals should concentrate on patient care and training of students. Currently, we'r losing so many well trained doctors to administrative roles in the hospitals.

Bottomline, some of the doctors demands are germane while others are mere shadow chasing or at best efforts at maintaining territorial control.

But a society that tolerates the excesses of ASUU and other labour unions should tolerate that of doctors.
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by armadeo(m): 5:01pm On Jul 10, 2014
7sperovs:

U are a fool? who asked u to go to school for 6 years, i went to the NDA for 4 years and after graduation i still have to stand before a bullet each time there is crisis so that i can protect u the doctor, who should earn more..Soldier, that protect even the doctors or police that the CMD calls when armed men come into his house to collect what the CMD stole from the hospital..Genuine cause my foot...Soldiers cant go on strike, th epolice cant go onstrike even when they are paid rubbish, who sacrifices more and who should really be agitating for better pay..Doctors should go and sleep
Am pregnat. doctor say lets find out, Go for a test.
Am feeling feverish- Doctor says lets find out whats really wrong with you, go for a test.
Am very sure the so called lab technician, can tell what result is positive for any ailment and a pharmacist can tell u what drug and what dosage u need to get cured....Every consultant just gives u a list of (lab technician's) test that decides which of the (pharmacist's) drugs to use..It make one wonder what they can really do without test and drugs..
None of the medical/health sector can survive without the other, Doctors should stop feeling too important joor

NDA is 5yrs Oga. So you don't know how many years you spent in school or you want to claim you started in yr 2.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by ozodigboo(m): 5:01pm On Jul 10, 2014
It pains me as a doctor to be saying this, but i think our problem is that we have allowed JOHESU to brainwash the public.
Most people support JOHESU because they see us as oppressors. So many people here are commenting on issues they know nothing about.
We are NOT gods_ we are just like any other employee, protesting unfair advantage given to others in the health sector.
We went on strike January 6 2014, we called it off when Nigerians pleaded, & the FG promised things.

They did not. By June, we did a WARNING STRIKE, yet nothing.
And some are saying negotiations are better than strike - negotiate till when ?
ASUU were on strike for almost a year. . .people were lambasting FG.
ASUP is still on strike.. . . . . . . . . . . . . .people are lambasting FG.
Why is everyone attacking us now ?

Pharmacists, lab guys, nurses etc are being appointed directors in Teaching Hospitals. Good.
And yet, they say FG should abolish the post of Deputy CMAC, THAT THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING. why ?

In a hospital, the doctor is the head [ its the truth, lets not confuse the public ]. it doesn't make us gods.
In a home, the father is the head, [ irrespective of salary size ] it doesn't make him a god.
In the University, only Profs can aspire to head as VC. . . A man who became professor 5 yrs ago, can contest.. . . . a grade 1 lecturer who has been there for 20 yrs cannot. This is just the way it is.

Patients come to hospital, to see a doctor. The doctor prescribes drugs which a pharmacist may/may not want to edit. The doctor recommends lab tests for a patient, which he/she goes to meet the technician's input. The doctor outlines patients care for nurses to carry out.

Now. . . . there's a strike . . . . . everywhere is empty.

Strikes are not good, but we have been pushed to the wall. Doctors feed, we queue at petrol stations, we train our kids at school, WE ALSO FALL SICK. We are not asking for heaven and earth. We are asking for our due.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by mbulela: 5:03pm On Jul 10, 2014
KingTom: As an undergraduate, for six years I did not have time for myself, no girlfriend, some food, nothing. After graduation someone who knows nothing about medicine starts talking rubbish. Those saying we are show-offs. If e pain you, go back school!
grin grin grin

na medicine make you no get girlfriend?
you need to up your game? stop blaming medicine.
your fellow doctors,are keeping two babes comfortably and you are here blaming medicine.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by armadeo(m): 5:04pm On Jul 10, 2014
smithoo: Federal Govt and the state Govt should just terminate the employments of all striking doctors and pay everyone off. They should start fresh recruitment to fill these vacancies with good but strict condition of service. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. It might take a long time to fill those vacancies but at the end those vacancies will be filled. Being a medical doctor does not make you a good administrator. All our health institutions are been headed by medical doctors and most are in shambles. These people must be humbled else they will hold this nation to ransom. People lifes have been lost due this strike, can they bring those lifes back after the strike is called off. Terminate them and let see if some will not shift ground and begged to be recalled. LAGOS STATE under once tried it but it was resolved amicably. This time let it be total.


You don't even understand what you are saying. Sack everyone. Where do you think the specialist will come from or you think they are in the market.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 5:04pm On Jul 10, 2014
maclatunji: I do not blame the doctors, I blame the country's leadership. Policies are meant to guide the government on these issues, why should it allow itself be pushed around by healthcare workers from doctors to cleaners if it indeed knows what it is doing?
spot on; never grant any union's demands in isolation but federal ministry of health keeps issueing circulars full of confusion.
for example following threats by JOHESU the FMOH issued a circular last month for placement of medical lab. scientist pupils/interns at a salary level equal to that of a lab. scientist that has just joined the service after NYSC. ALL the federal hospitals are presently having difficulty inplementing this circular, when one of the MDs asked a minitry official the reply was " it is not meant to be inplemented but issued just to doused tension"
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Vivipop(f): 5:10pm On Jul 10, 2014
Lol, Definitely not your own Ceasar smiley
Ceasar1:

Hi. grin
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by tellwisdom: 5:10pm On Jul 10, 2014
Doctors are wetin??...abi wehrey nie?? angry

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 5:13pm On Jul 10, 2014
The funny thing is dat, d outright hatred and envy for doctors is so much YET everyone wants to have a MEDICAL DOCTOR at home ...including JOHESU and NATIVE DOCTORS...Isn't dat digging a pit to cover a pit..

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 5:15pm On Jul 10, 2014
this thread just made my day
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by kalishay: 5:17pm On Jul 10, 2014
Your small gods.inferiority syndrome!!,dr wake up
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 5:18pm On Jul 10, 2014
7sperovs:

U are a fool? who asked u to go to school for 6 years, i went to the NDA for 4 years and after graduation i still have to stand before a bullet each time there is crisis so that i can protect u the doctor, who should earn more..Soldier, that protect even the doctors or police that the CMD calls when armed men come into his house to collect what the CMD stole from the hospital..Genuine cause my foot...Soldiers cant go on strike, th epolice cant go onstrike even when they are paid rubbish, who sacrifices more and who should really be agitating for better pay..Doctors should go and sleep
Am pregnat. doctor say lets find out, Go for a test.
Am feeling feverish- Doctor says lets find out whats really wrong with you, go for a test.
Am very sure the so called lab technician, can tell what result is positive for any ailment and a pharmacist can tell u what drug and what dosage u need to get cured....Every consultant just gives u a list of (lab technician's) test that decides which of the (pharmacist's) drugs to use..It make one wonder what they can really do without test and drugs..
None of the medical/health sector can survive without the other, Doctors should stop feeling too important joor
I understand your frustration Officer, may God protect you guys.
You should understand your peculiarities; you signed not to embark on any strike doctors never signed such agreements.
If you understand medical practice very well no medical doctor send any patient for TEST without CLINICAL DIAGNOSIS. This is what many people dnt known, check any laboratory request form and you will column for that. In many instances you can treat patients on the basis of clinical diagnosis without sending them to the lab and dont forget MANY diseases are diagnose CLINICALLY ONLY.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by mormodica(m): 5:20pm On Jul 10, 2014
7sperovs:

U are a fool? who asked u to go to school for 6 years, i went to the NDA for 4 years and after graduation i still have to stand before a bullet each time there is crisis so that i can protect u the doctor, who should earn more..Soldier, that protect even the doctors or police that the CMD calls when armed men come into his house to collect what the CMD stole from the hospital..Genuine cause my foot...Soldiers cant go on strike, th epolice cant go onstrike even when they are paid rubbish, who sacrifices more and who should really be agitating for better pay..Doctors should go and sleep
Am pregnat. doctor say lets find out, Go for a test.
Am feeling feverish- Doctor says lets find out whats really wrong with you, go for a test.
Am very sure the so called lab technician, can tell what result is positive for any ailment and a pharmacist can tell u what drug and what dosage u need to get cured....Every consultant just gives u a list of (lab technician's) test that decides which of the (pharmacist's) drugs to use..It make one wonder what they can really do without test and drugs..
None of the medical/health sector can survive without the other, Doctors should stop feeling too important joor
I want to put 1000 likes

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Nobody: 5:24pm On Jul 10, 2014
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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by battyman(m): 5:39pm On Jul 10, 2014
tuoyoojo: One tin is clear here, all theses e anti doctor warriors shouting that doctors is sh*t shud kindly continue.

The naked truth is that your opnion doesnt count.

While u guys are there ranting , our demands are being met. Very soon alert go enter

Singing ..."they see me rolling, they hatin"


Ohh!,..Shallow undecided
Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by Rheetaa(f): 5:41pm On Jul 10, 2014
To strike or not to strike? Any two sides at loggerheads would always have reasons which seemingly justify their actions. Our nation is faced with numerous problems we all know require urgent intervention. Why we choose to make each other suffer by leveraging on the little 'power' we seem to have is what I don't get. Why can't we stand as one and address our issues without punishing the helpless in our midst? Is this how the developed nations attained their present status? Must we look down on one another? When the curtain falls for each of us, doctor or tomato seller, does it all then matter? Where is our humanity? What happened to service to our fellow man? Learning obviously hasn't helped us as a people. We need to stop squabbling and imbibe love for one another and for our nation. Together. We need to get smart and realise our common foe. Then will we begin to speak with one voice against the ills in this country and begin to build the future we seek. Together.

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Re: Seriously, Doctors Are Small gods - Funke Egbemode (Sun News) by mannyiyke: 5:42pm On Jul 10, 2014
Onlinebizexpert: Do I blame her no.........


If she knew that what it took me to pass a test of five marks in medical school is the same as what it took her to pass a degree exam of 100 marks

What is keshi doing that he is demanding a salary of 10 million naira per month

What did a senator read that his salary can foot the salaries of 25 professors of medicine


If people knew that the fight to answer consultant by other medically inclined professions is simply a ploy to assume power

Having another consultant In the hospital is the same as having two captains in a ship

I will not blame funke she is trying to sell her newspaper by writing such a demeaning article to the people who can elongate the line between life and death after GOD

I don't expect funke to understand because unlike her I have to read 3 courses (anatomy,physiology,biochemistry) which lasts for about 15 years in just 18 months and am expected to be better than the person that reads just one of the aforementioned courses and yet such a person wants to assume a post that that takes a doctor an average of 25years to reach


I won't blame funke because maybe in her world a footballer like Mikel can demand for the title of world best player just like messi and c ronaldo by just playing back pass


U claim its greed but I think its the right thing

If I should be in charge of your life in your weakest moments don't you think I should be financially emotionally and psychologically stable....


Do I blame funke and some professional jambites on naira land for their articles and comments respectively.....no I wont



Why don't you whole lot contest for the position of GOD who created the universe because we can give both to humans

I am not in support of a situation whereby patients are punished for the crime of others but till we as a country get it right by giving honour to whom it is due we can never make a head way


To funke keep writing what you think is right afterall its your job and you are paid to do so



But one thing is sure[b] IF TWO ELEPHANTS FIGHT THE GRASSES WILL SUFFER[/b]

That's all I can say for now, falter my points if you have the facts.........thanks again
Bro, u can lie. Even oda health professionals also read anatomy, medical biochemistry and physiology. Ur demands are outrageous.

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