kmariko:

Sir, Am neither a physician , a pharmacist, a nurse etc... am just a human being if you can possibily see me as such.( your preogative i might add) And as a perosn sharing the planet earth with you I have as much stake in it as you are in spite of my dropping out of class 3... It is one of those ironies of life that learned ones have to share the same space with illiterates like me...
If you like, I proffer my sincere apologies for polluting the spaces that should only be used by the learned ones...

Have a great day

There is no time for high philosophy at this time. You deceive none about who you're. Anybody who cares to read would spot you from a mile away, but it's not for supporting truthful and well researched piece, but for greatly misunderstood facts about hospital positions/officers, situation of thing is the US and CA in particular, and finally how the doctor has been at the forefront of minimizing the pharmacist. All these are not true, but you have spent about 10 pages posting articles that paint a convenient(albiet false) picture for your followers.

dumodust:
and guess who the perfect role model is? Mr go and die... hilarious ... your case dey complicated o, very

Have you ever come across the phrase "Nobody is perfect"?

The dumb one is here again!!!

dumodust:
I'm not against other professions but I'm against spilling without regulation unto things that they are not supposed to do... vaccinations have a strict regime and for the sake of its promotion, pharmacist s can administer it. My problem is with diagnosis, primary pt care...
u cant spin from a drug focussed training to understand other issues, pt care is way beyond drugs, most pts think u must prescribe something for them... seeing someone who trained in drugs will always lead to a drug related solution and the inability to detect when something else is going badly wrong. The medical training is an apprenticeship handed over generations, cultures with continuous evolution till this point... pharmacists et al have their own roles and training, they dont cross and shouldnt because no msc or phd can teach u clinical skills learnt by being actively involved in pt care from undergraduate education to residency and onwards, the magnitude of the experience is beyond books and titles... that is why I wonder why we love titles so much. I for one dont love the doctor tag, it puts a lot of strain on me socially.
acquiring another degree makes u better in your field (like specialist nurses trained in icu care, renal care, theatre etc) not to cross lines and acquire roles you werent trained for ab initio

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I do not see much future in mere diagnosis as the match of technological innovation is beginning to take a shine off it. Computers are in the cusp of replacing some of the drudgery involved... so those years of "cultural apprentice" as you aptly put it will lie inside a chip less than the size of the human hair. The medicine as we know it will be unrecognizable in a few years.. what people in the field should be focusing is on the art of medicine that is "The art of medicine—the art of dealing with the unanticipated, unwanted, and less-than-optimal—can’t be programmed into a computer and, for that matter, can’t be taught in medical school but real life experiences.

kmariko: .

I do not see much future in mere diagnosis as the match of technological innovation is beginning to take a shine off it. Computers are in the cusp of replacing some of the drudgery involved... so those years of "cultural apprentice" as you aptly put it will lie inside a chip less than the size of the human hair. The medicine as we know it will be unrecognizable in a few years.. what people in the field should be focusing is on the art of medicine that is "The art of medicine—the art of dealing with the unanticipated, unwanted, and less-than-optimal—can’t be programmed into a computer and, for that matter, can’t be taught in medical school but real life experiences.

i feel no machine can replace human beings in making a diagnosis.... you mentioned the unanticipated, the less than optimal, may unnoticed things pt didnt didnt even complain about... that is exactly my point... i have patients that come talking about one thing but their real problem is something else they are too embarrassed to talk about, there are emotional, psychological aspects, encouraging pts is part of therapy, the human feel and empathy is why most of my patients want to see me again, and again... not just rigidly responding like a computer and dishing out drugs. showing that you care and counselling is 90% of care, most pts should 'feel' better about what they have after leaving the consulting room. medicine is changing rapidly...yes... but computers have not replaced humans yet. we have robot assisted surgeries, computerised machines for investigations BUT they are still under human control
in med school you will see all these aspects on real humans in teaching hospital, no simulation... you get to talk to pts, get corrected over and over again, clerk, present, examine... then you are shown how by very old colleagues. community medicine takes you out to rural areas etc
knowledge doesnt fall from the sky and history and scenarios will surely repeat themselves. even lawyers bank on old cases, the rulings and experiences of their predecessors to make decisions.
that is why even consultants are in grades depending on their level of experience... it is only learnt and accumulated over many years of special training...

dumodust:

point of correction... doctors are not the highest paid workers in nigeria... please do your research well before posting online
i dont know where you get your info and statistics... are you well?
and your writing is disheartening ... please if you want people to take you seriously, improve

Then I fnk U̶̲̥̅̊ shud do ur research properly.if U̶̲̥̅̊ want 2 compare D̶̲̥̅̊ docs 2 politcians D̶̲̥̅̊@s ur own cup of tea. Coming downn professionally How many civil servants have been given cars And other benefis? Τ̲̅ђe docs for sure have that @ dia disposal. They took dia hypocrital oath or whatever they call it 2 save lives. So my frnd don't quote ♍ε̲̣̣̣̥ by insulting ♍ε̲̣̣̣̥. U̶̲̥̅̊ still have other pple .i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ other proffession struggling 2 even get dia minimum wages paid. They shud appreciate w@ D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ have And go back 2 work

Opusy:

Then I fnk U̶̲̥̅̊ shud do ur research properly.if U̶̲̥̅̊ want 2 compare D̶̲̥̅̊ docs 2 politcians D̶̲̥̅̊@s ur own cup of tea. Coming downn professionally How many civil servants have been given cars And other benefis? Τ̲̅ђe docs for sure have that @ dia disposal. They took dia hypocrital oath or whatever they call it 2 save lives. So my frnd don't quote ♍ε̲̣̣̣̥ by insulting ♍ε̲̣̣̣̥. U̶̲̥̅̊ still have other pple .i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ other proffession struggling 2 even get dia minimum wages paid. They shud appreciate w@ D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ have And go back 2 work

Before they go back to work, some of their demands should be addressed.
I will never allow any other health worker order than a medical doctor to treat any member of my family. I have had some silly experience with non doctors.

Emulti:

check d meaning of paramedical before u keep joining d Nigerian doctors to debase urself.

Do u think vrybodi is as u re. Ofcourse I know probably u re not even in d medical field nd u blab ur mouth dis way. Guy find work do

Opusy:







Who send them? Or who force them. Dia greed Iڪ taking a better part of them that they don't even know what they are doing anymore. They should be charged And arrested for murder cos dia silly mistakes have sent pple 2 dia early graves.
Are they asking for more money 2 continue killing innocent Nigerians?

shebi I say make u go do jamb, the field needs super intelligent pple like urself to com and join the profession so as to make dem beta. Ddooolllooo

Opusy:







Who send them? Or who force them. Dia greed Iڪ taking a better part of them that they don't even know what they are doing anymore. They should be charged And arrested for murder cos dia silly mistakes have sent pple 2 dia early graves.
Are they asking for more money 2 continue killing innocent Nigerians?

shebi I say make u go do jamb, the field needs super intelligent pple like urself to com and join the profession so as to make dem beta. Ddooolllooo

Opusy:

Then I fnk U̶̲̥̅̊ shud do ur research properly.if U̶̲̥̅̊ want 2 compare D̶̲̥̅̊ docs 2 politcians D̶̲̥̅̊@s ur own cup of tea. Coming downn professionally How many civil servants have been given cars And other benefis? Τ̲̅ђe docs for sure have that @ dia disposal. They took dia hypocrital oath or whatever they call it 2 save lives. So my frnd don't quote ♍ε̲̣̣̣̥ by insulting ♍ε̲̣̣̣̥. U̶̲̥̅̊ still have other pple .i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ other prof0fession struggling 2 even get dia minimum wages paid. They shud appreciate w@ D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ have And go back 2 work

You are not informed and you are talking like if you have the facts, the major problem with nigerians. I didn't get mg car from the govt neither was housing provided, I manage my pay with some side jobs to make ends meet and if I talk about my pay, u will laugh but that is not the issue in this strike.The best paid govt workers are in nnpc/petroleum ministry, judiciary and many other examples, not health sector

Smartsyn: I hate it when a simple question thread, turns out to be an epistle.





I don't hate Doctors, it's the greed in them that I don't like.

U sound pained bro.... Kip hatin u may end up wit a neurological deficit jst like them.... 4 God's sake, d amt of hatred baffles me...pple hate wat dey can't b or have.... simple..

hydeka: I just like the pharmacists. Their fate is not tied to the hospital. Why struggle with doctors in the hospital all your life when you can open your own community pharmacy, do drug imports or work in a pharm. company/industry? If the doctors don't want you guys there, simply walk out of the cage. You have better opportunities outside the hospital.

Even with all those opportunities you still find pharmacists in hospitals, shouldn't you ask why? Pharmacists are well trained in patient care (which as we all know doctors lack) and this entails ensuring that every patient gets it right with drug therapy. So my friend they stay back to ensure that doctors accurately make use of their tools (drugs) so as to avoid uunnecessary complications in the patient because, as earlier stated, their ultimate goal is to IMPROVE PATIENT'S QUALITY OF LIFE. I so love Pharmacists!!!

odilinonso: Even with all those opportunities you still find pharmacists in hospitals, shouldn't you ask why? [b]Pharmacists are well trained in patient care (which as we all know doctors lack) [/b]and this entails ensuring that every patient gets it right with drug therapy. So my friend they stay back to ensure that doctors accurately make use of their tools (drugs) so as to avoid uunnecessary complications in the patient because, as earlier stated, their ultimate goal is to IMPROVE PATIENT'S QUALITY OF LIFE. I so love Pharmacists!!!

Nigerians and their ignorance.

What is with the competition?

If you think pharmacists can do better, that is your prerogative. In places where laws are actually enforced, a pharmacist will function in that capacity alone.

And if there is any pharmacist or any other person for that matter that believes he has the capacity to practice medicine better than our Nigerian Docs(and is also not proud), there is no law against delirium.

However, to practice medicine, you have to go to med school and get an MBBS. Its that simple. No shortcuts in life.

Mbediogu: Thanks Dr. Eilogie for your well researched write up. You have shown the material doctors are made of. Is anybody still in doubt why things are still going the other way in our health sector? Why the most basic drugs must be imported from India? Professionals and vocational are leaving undone what they are trained and paid to do; seeking to bastardize the art of patient/doctor relationship by dilution. I have been in medical practice for 33yrs and I must say this development is catastrophic. I blame the Pharacists squarely for this ugly development; for giving leadership to an unholy alliance to pull down doctors. Let us watch.

Choi! this one na personal beef

odilinonso: Pharmacists are well trained in patient care (which as we all know doctors lack) and this entails ensuring that every patient gets it right with drug therapy. So my friend they stay back to ensure that doctors accurately make use of their thier tools ( drugs) e Pharmacists!!!

Please explain this part of your statement.

Watch this video and judge for yourselves. If anyone does not accept the glaring truth after watching this video,then there is no need wasting our time arguing because that person has blatantly refused to harken to good reason. I rest my case!.

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Or This Link!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l79PbcBruhg#