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Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by vislabraye(m): 5:19pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
Why Tiki Taka still rules the world. 4 Likes |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by vislabraye(m): 5:20pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
Source : http://mobi.supersport.com/football/blogs/sunday-oliseh/Why_Tiki_Taka_still_rules_the_world. I don't quite agree with him. The success of German in this WC has nothing to do with Pep's input in Bayern. This German team has skillful players as well as players good with aerial balls. |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by yorex2011: 5:32pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
Aiit |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by dapyd1(m): 5:47pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
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Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by Nobody: 6:46pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
vislabraye: Source : http://mobi.supersport.com/football/blogs/sunday-oliseh/Why_Tiki_Taka_still_rules_the_world. I don't quite agree with him. The success of German in this WC has nothing to do with Pep's input in Bayern. This German team has skillful players as well as players good with aerial balls. The German Coach Joachim Loew started a transformation agenda and philosophy alongside his mate Klinsman and carried on that agenda even after Klinsman left. While its true that the short passing and pressing high up the pitch is similar to the spanish, it will be wrong to give Pep Guardiola any credit for the German success. Because Bayern Munich under its former coach destroyed Barcelona even before Pep took over 3 Likes |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by vislabraye(m): 6:50pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
mikeansy:. Exactly !! And Bayern under Pep lost 4 0 to Real Madrid under Pep Guardiola. 1 Like |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by ClintonNzedimma(m): 7:11pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
Sorry Oliseh, it only works on playstation....am capable of getting 80% with whoever is playing me 2 Likes |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by yoji: 9:04pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
He does make some valid points. Couldn't help but notice the tiki taka influence in their play. 1 Like |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:21pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
vislabraye: Source : http://mobi.supersport.com/football/blogs/sunday-oliseh/Why_Tiki_Taka_still_rules_the_world. I don't quite agree with him. The success of German in this WC has nothing to do with Pep's input in Bayern. This German team has skillful players as well as players good with aerial balls.Luther Matthaeus, former Captain of Germany and Bayern Munich credits Guardiola for having a hand Jun the success of the Germans. He knows a lot about Bayern. Sometimes, we do not argue and learn. That is how we gain understanding. Also remember when the Germans played The Spaniards at the 2010 World Cup, they defended. After Guardiola massacred Bayern at Allianz arena, Van Gaal was brought in and the Tiki Taka transition started. 1 Like |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:25pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
vislabraye: . Exactly !! And Bayern under Pep lost 4 0 to Real Madrid under Pep Guardiola.It is not about a performance in one or two games. It is about the performance in a long run. Bayern Munich began the season, pursuing 5 trophies. They won 4 of the trophies and lost one. That is a fantastic result for a system. 1 Like |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by vislabraye(m): 1:13am On Jul 13, 2014 |
thegoodjoehunt: It is not about a performance in one or two games. It is about the performance in a long run. Bayern Munich began the season, pursuing 5 trophies. They won 4 of the trophies and lost one. That is a fantastic result for a system.. Bayern Munich has been doing consistently well in CL before the arrival of Pep. When they demolished Barca , they didn't use Barca's tiki taka football. Tiki taka has its advantages, no doubt about it but a lot of teams are becoming used to the system. 2 Likes |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by vislabraye(m): 1:31am On Jul 13, 2014 |
thegoodjoehunt: Luther Matthaeus, former Captain of Germany and Bayern Munich credits Guardiola for having a hand Jun the success of the Germans.. Does Real Madrid play the tiki taka football? Does Athletico Madrid play tiki taka football ? The German team is this successful because they are young and have played for4 years together. The fuNny thing is that a lot of good teams have develop a sort of anti dote to this tiki taka system. Although the German plays the ball on the ground most times, they are also very good in aerial balls which Barca and Spain lacks. They can take outside shots and throw long passes. The German plays similar football to the Dutch. 1 Like |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by Kai5vil: 3:52am On Jul 13, 2014 |
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Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by thegoodjoehunt(m): 5:00am On Jul 13, 2014 |
vislabraye: . Does Real Madrid play the tiki taka football? Does Athletico Madrid play tiki taka football ? The German team is this successful because they are young and have played for4 years together. The fuNny thing is that a lot of good teams have develop a sort of anti dote to this tiki taka system. Although the German plays the ball on the ground most times, they are also very good in aerial balls which Barca and Spain lacks. They can take outside shots and throw long passes. The German plays similar football to the Dutch.Are you saying you know Bayern Munich or Germany more then Lothar Matthaeus? He is the former captain of both the German and Bayern Munich team. You can argue with Luthar Matthaeus about aerial balls or shots from range. By the way, Fabre gas shoots from far. So does Xavi and Iniesta. Carzola can shoot from far. Jordi Alba and Azpilicueta are good with crosses. Diego Costa is good with aerial balls. David Silva shoots from far. So I do not get your logic. 1 Like |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by thegoodjoehunt(m): 5:02am On Jul 13, 2014 |
Matthaus: Guardiola has influenced Germany The World Cup winner thinks the Bayern Munich coach has passed on his philosophy to the international side, and admits the squuad are playing more pragmatically now http://www.goal.com/en-sg/news/3999/world-cup-2014/2014/07/07/4942051/matthaus-guardiola-has-influenced-germany If you like, argue with the legend because you know more than him. 1 Like |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by thegoodjoehunt(m): 5:07am On Jul 13, 2014 |
vislabraye: . Bayern Munich has been doing consistently well in CL before the arrival of Pep. When they demolished Barca , they didn't use Barca's tiki taka football. Tiki taka has its advantages, no doubt about it but a lot of teams are becoming used to the system.Guardiola lost games, when he was coach of Barca. If teams are getting used to the system, how come Guardiola was able to set records in Germany. Tito achieved a hundred points. What Oliseh is saying is that the system is still yielding results. Bayern Munich management did not get Guardiola to win games alpine. They brought him to import his philosophy. Guardiola even organises seminars for German Coaches. So it is not a fluke he had a hand in their success. Luther Mathaus knows more about The Germans than you. |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by thegoodjoehunt(m): 5:09am On Jul 13, 2014 |
vislabraye: . Bayern Munich has been doing consistently well in CL before the arrival of Pep. When they demolished Barca , they didn't use Barca's tiki taka football. Tiki taka has its advantages, no doubt about it but a lot of teams are becoming used to the system.No one is arguing Tiki Taka did not lose games, what Oliseh is saying that Tiki Taka has recorded more success than any other system in recent years. 1 Like |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by thegoodjoehunt(m): 5:34am On Jul 13, 2014 |
See this training exercise devised by Guardiola. These guys practice things like this till they master them. With Joachim Loew playing the tiki Taka system, he has players who are already groomed to be pragmatic, confident and play the system with ease. Loew did not have enough time to groom the team to play the system. With Guardiola training the Germans in the system, it makes the job easier for the National team coach. Tiki Taka exercise devised by Guardiola. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEZvfgbzL9c 1 Like |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by yoji: 6:20am On Jul 13, 2014 |
thegoodjoehunt: Matthaus: Guardiola has influenced GermanyI agree with u. Am surprised someone would ignore a stat that says Germany has almost 3 times the average completed passes in the tournament just for the sake of arguing. Also ignoring that lahm and kroos who play under pep at club level are the top passes in the tournament . Germany also adopted the false 9 option synonymous with tiki taka by taking only 1 out and out striker to the world cup i.e klose since mueller plays anywhere across the frontline. It's pathetic when someone points to a lost match by barca or peps bayern as reason for the systems demise as if the players are not human anymore. The win percentage would b more appropriate. All the noise about the system being dead conveniently ignores that pep won the league in record time, not forgetting the cup. Also people make it look as if jupp heynkes bayern was perfect forgetting that there were almost serial losers until their fortunes changed. There were constantly waxed by dortmund and even lost the champs league final to chelsea in their backyard and lost the cup and league to dortmund that same year. The only difference is that Germany attacked quicker while Spain wore out the opponent waiting for that play guaranteed the goal. Come to think of it, from loews perspective, if u have a team dominated by players that play a successful system, your work will have been made easier. 2 Likes |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by Nobody: 12:22pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
This is ridiculous We want to suggest that Guardiola who has been in a job for just 12 months is the reason why Germany are making progress? Joachim Loew and Jurgen Klinsman started this project 10 years ago Lothar Matheus can say what he likes but when Germany destroyed England and Argentina at the last World Cup they did not do so defending The only thing I will say Joachim Loew has tried to copy from Guardiola is using ThomAs muller as false number 9. It also helps that a lot of key players for Germany play for bayern Munich but to suggest that the reason Germany are in the finals is because of pep arrival 12 months ago is just ridiculous! Nothing can be further from the truth! 1 Like |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by vislabraye(m): 1:57pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
thegoodjoehunt: Are you saying you know Bayern Munich or Germany more then Lothar Matthaeus?. You said former captain !!! This present coach knows better about this German team. |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by vislabraye(m): 2:02pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
mikeansy: This is ridiculous. Thank you. That's the point I'm trying to bring out. |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by vislabraye(m): 2:32pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
yoji:. Bayern were almost serial losers until their fortune changed Are you for real? You call a team that won the CL before Pep took over serial losers ? A team that has reached the finals on 3 different occasions are serial losers ? For your info, Bayern won a treble before Pep came in. Pep is a good coach but let's admit it, he inherited an established team. He didn't change the fortune of Bayern let alone the German national team. |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:01pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
vislabraye: . Bayern were almost serial losers until their fortune changed Are you for real? You call a team that won the CL before Pep took over serial losers ? A team that has reached the finals on 3 different occasions are serial losers ? For your info, Bayern won a treble before Pep came in. Pep is a good coach but let's admit it, he inherited an established team. He didn't change the fortune of Bayern let alone the German national team.You did not understand his point. The Champions league win by Hynckes is the changed fortune. |
Re: Tiki Taka Rules The World By Sunday Oliseh by thegoodjoehunt(m): 10:02pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
vislabraye: . You said former captain !!! This present coach knows better about this German team.What does Joachim Loew have to do with Matthaus Point? Did Joachim Loew say Matthaus was wrong? Joachim Loew and Matthaus are good friends. So do not think Matthaus is speaking against Loew. |
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