tijjanioyan: there are about 50000errors in d bible,so said Jehovah witnessess

So says 'JW', and what has their opinion got to do with anything?

PastorOluT:

So says 'JW', and what has their opinion got to do with anything?

if it really the word of god it suppose to be free from error

[quote author=Emusan]

You, Muhammad & Allah seem to be confused. If not why would Allah says "If Christians believe in God and the last day they have reward with Allah"?

if you believe in God and the last day and accept that prophet Muhammad SAW is a messenger of God, you are a muslim but Christians unfortunately do not.. This is simply because they believe Jesus AS is the son of God, meaning they atleast worship 2 gods, that is Jesus and God. Don't confuse yourself

This 1 don spoil everything 2gods imagine that can 2 kings rule?

tola9ja: This 1 don spoil everything 2gods imagine that can 2 kings rule?

you are just attackinq xtians with ur post here on nairaland... if xtians start now there will be ban .besides jesus christ did not practice islam..he died 1000 years bfor the existance of mohammed Jesus was more than a mere Prophet...He was the Son of God. His grave is empty...

You can visit Muhammad's... source= http://www.islamlies.com/

Donsammi: you are just attackinq xtians with ur post here on nairaland... if xtians start now there will be ban .besides jesus christ did not practice islam..he died 1000 years bfor the existance of mohammed Jesus was more than a mere Prophet...He was the Son of God. His grave is empty...

You can visit Muhammad's... source= http://www.islamlies.com/

jesus is prophet and servant not lord. www.nairaland.com/1818791/biblical-evidences-show-jesus-prophet

Islam is the only religion in the world That pray salat and is in the bible nehemaiah 8:4-6 you can never see christian converging 2gether I.e jehovah withness worshiping wit cotholic or redeem with celestial they can't, there bible is different from one another there is no uniqueness in there religion. in islam we converge together at the central mosque all muslim of the world converge at mecca there is central mosque in all city of the world there is noting like central church muslim do holy pilgrim to mecca in christian some goto to jerusalem some to vertican city some goto rome no uniqueness anyway whoever Al mighty Allah show s is patch nobody Can miss lead him/her and whoever he miss lead nobody can lead him/her to the wright patch and there is only 1 way to paradise use ur brain judiciously don't let any pastor fool you a word is enough for the wise

tola9ja: Islam is the only religion in the world That pray salat and is in the bible nehemaiah 8:4-6 you can never see christian converging 2gether I.e jehovah withness worshiping wit cotholic or redeem with celestial they can't, there bible is different from one another there is no uniqueness in there religion. in islam we converge together at the central mosque all muslim of the world converge at mecca there is central mosque in all city of the world there is noting like central church muslim do holy pilgrim to mecca in christian some goto to jerusalem some to vertican city some goto rome no uniqueness anyway whoever Al mighty Allah show s is patch nobody Can miss lead him/her and whoever he miss lead nobody can lead him/her to the wright patch and there is only 1 way to paradise use ur brain judiciously don't let any pastor fool you a word is enough for the wise

you need a touch from the master to free you from this spell.

tola9ja: if it really the word of god it suppose to be free from error

I copy this from a thread in the islamic section created by ayomicvi. Uptill today non of your brothers have answer the op.

Who say Quran is God's words ?I believe
Quran is not God's words but the words of
Muhammad. What make me say this?
Iam a Christian that believed in searching
for the truth as a way of salvation.
Actually, i believed in Bible but i still want to learn about Islam. In quest for
this, i read the English Quran to see if its
a true book of God. On 24 of July 2014 i
finished the reading of Quran without
Saadah and these were what i discoverd
that made me says Quran is not the words of God but the worlds of
Muhammad.
1.If you have read the Bible before and
you really understood what you read you
would agree with me that Quran isn't
God's words because it is not sound like words of God. The Quran used the
pronoun such as our, we, he when refers
to Allah.To me,Quran sound like words of
advice or explanatory words rather than
the report speech that it should be.Look
at this statement from Quran and tell if it sound like Allah's words or report speech
" This Quran is not such as can be
produced by other than Allah, on the
contrary it is a comfirmation of
(revelation) that went before it and a
fuller explanation of the book where in there is no doubt it from the lord of the
world " (Yunus 4:37)
whose statement is the above
statement?
Even, if it is God's words, why would God
commends Quran to the extence of saying " there is no doubt its from the lord of
world" who is doubting? Who is
speaking ?Who is the lord of the world?
Also look at this
Or do they say " he forged it" say bring
then a surah like unto it and call ( to your aid) any one you can beside Allah if it be
ye speak the truth" (Yunus 4:38)
was/is Allah in arguement with the
people he created?
Another
Has the story of Moses reached thee? (Those who pull out 2:15)
was Allah questioned Muhammad or
Muhammad questioned people?
2 the Muslims claimed that Muhammad
was not a learner and that Angel Gabriel
appeard to him and asked him to read. That is the only time Muhammad claimed
he saw an Angel. Muhammad claimed
that, he was not a learner and that
people said "he forged Quran and the
people they are pointing to that he
teaches him (Muhammed) was christian but he does not understand arab"
In another verse of Quran he says, the
christians had testified to Quran that it is
like the other books that Allah sent and if
people doubted it they should ask them
(christians) Muhammed heard the Christians when
they said Quran is like other books
revealed by Allah, but Quran does not say
the language in which they
communicated to Muhammad. These
shows that Muhammad had Christians around him when he was alive and they
can communicate with him.
Muhammed claimed he received
messages through inspiration
" say iam man like you it reveal to me
through inspiration that your God is one God" (Ha Him 1:6)
" Allah sent his Spirit of inspiration to all
his servant" (The believer 2:15)
the definition of inspire is to fill with the
urge to do something or to creat a filling
in a person according to dictionary meaning
i believed many things we human being
are doing in life are by inspiration. The
authors can not write a book if not by
inspiration, the musicians cannot write
music without been inspired, when you are inspired by the beauty of woman you
can write poem . The woman who said
she was God, what inspired her?
Inspiraton required deep thought.
Muhammed source of inspiration cannot
be verified or confirmed. When God speaks to Moses Moses heard his voice,
the Isaelite during the Moses time heard
the voice of God, Samuel heard his
voice ,God speaks to some prophets in
their dreams, some of the prophets heard
the words of God and they were inspired by Holy Spirit to say what they heard.
The apostles were inspired by Holy Spirit.
How dn we know they were Inspired by
Holy Spirit? We know because they
revealed the hidden truths in the
scripture. The Bible told us of sarmaritan Queen who was reading Scripture from
the book of Isaiah but did not understand
what she was reading but Philip with the
help of Holy Spirit was able to explain it
to her and his explanation match with
what was happened .Paul with the help of holy Spirit was able to explain how
Jesus died for our sins in accordance with
the scripture but Muhammed's inspiration
denied others prophets writtings.
Muslims should tell us why they believed
in Muhammed's source of inspiration? 3 Muhammed desires and intetions were
what Muhammed made to be the words
of Allah - Muslims said Muhammed was
not speak of his own desire but what
Allah revealed to him but the Quran and
Hadith proved this wrong. Because Muhammed speaks of his own desires,
that is what make Quran useless without
Hadith. Its the hadith that explained
Quran. is it surpose to be like that? Hadith
that is words of men explained Quran
that is the words of God. and the Quran is said to be the book that Allah sent down.
That is funny. Look at this verse of Quran.
" O ye who believe! Enter not the prophet
house until leave (permission) is given
you. For a meal (and then) not (so early
as) to wait for it preparation but when you are invited, enter: and when you
have taken your meal, disperse, without
seeking familiar talk such (behavious)
annoyed the prophet: he is shy to dismiss
you but Allah is not shy (to tell you) the
truth.And when you ask (his ladies for anything ye want ask them from before
a screen that make for a greater purity
for your hearts and for their. Non is it
right for you that ye should annoy Allah
messenger, or you should married is
widows after him at a time. Truely such a thing is in Allah sight an enormity " ( the
Allies 6:53
i think the above issue should be the
decission of Muhammed alone .why did
Muhammed have to involve Allah. To me
Muhammed lied against Allah.He was shy to tell them that he does not like their
behavious and he knows that if he
speaks in Allah's name to them, they
would fear and not see him as a man
with bad temper.
Humm! He married so many widows in the name of been nice to them but, he
does not want any man to share of his
wife even when they become widows.
Hadith gave many accounts of
Muhammed using his intentions and
desires to be the words of Allah. The verse on his adopted child (Saheed) was
his desire, verse on woman Muhammed
could married (Zainab) was his
desire ,the facing of mecca(kaaba) when
praying was his desire, the Satanic
verses (to unite his tribe) was his desire and many more.
Allah in Quran always sent verses of
Quran in favour of Muhammed. what a
lie !
4. No Hadith no Islam - Quran is not in
detail ,it will leave us with qestions when reading it without knowlege of
Hadith. many of the doctrines of Islam
are based on Hadith, what would Muslims
use to preach without Hadith? which
prayer do Muslims have to use without
hadith?Let take this for example. There is no where in Quran that mention
or list 99 names of Allah. What Quran
says in similar to that is that, we should
call Allah all the beautiful names we
know. If this should be the case, then, the
names of Allah can be more than 99. Hadiths are useful in Islam , also they
exposed the lies of Muhammed. That is
why Muslims called some hadiths
fabricated Hadith and Some Authentic
Hadiths. Many of the writters of
Authentic Hadith were also the Writers of Fabricated Hadiths even Aisa one of the
prophet wives fabricates words. Who do
we have to trust?
5 Repetitions in Quran- if repetitions are
to be removed from Quran, i think the
suras would remain in Quran should not be more than five suras. Why would God
continued to repeat thesame words in so
many times? If Muhammed was not have
intention to make Quran look like Bible
why repetitions of words? What was the
idea behind the title of each Suras if Muhammed was not jealous of Jew and
envey of Bible? If Quran is really God's
words,i think the title of Quran suras
should be Muhammad like
Isaiah,Jerimaiah in Bible.Did God/ Allah
tells Muhammed to use those titles for Quran's Suras?
Take notice of repetitions in Quran when
next you are reading it,you we
understand what i mean.
We are still on repetition in Quran. I
found something funny in Quran and i want the Muslims on this thread to tell
me if it was person that transliterated
the Quran i read that made the Mistake or
not.What i found was that,The sura
Sandhills and Sura Muhammed has
thesame content also Sura The Banishment and Sura The Examine One
was thesame in content.
If it was not mistaken,should what God
sent down be like that?Who made that
mistakes God or Muhammed or those that
compiled it? 6.Sura the Cave -Muhammed was not
certain of the numbers of the Youth in
the story of the cave.He said
"... some say they were three the dog be
the fourth among them, other say they
were five, the dog being the six doubtfully quessing at unknown (yet
others) say they were seven the dog
being the eight.Say then my lord
knoweth best their number.It is but few
that knows there (real case) Enter not
into controversies concerning them ,except on matter that is clear,nor
consult any of them about (the affair of)
the sleepers. The Cave 3: 22
what does Muhammed mean by"some" is
it not Allah that revealed the story to
him? Why not knowing the numbers of the youth in the cave?"my lord knoweth
best their numbers" those words shows
that it was'nt God that revealed the story
to Muhammed. I trust my God, God of
Abraham, God that reavealed the dream
of Pharao to Joseph wthout go and come, he revealed the dream of
Nheibuckadinazary to Daniel
I heard that the story was asked to test
the prophethood of Muhammed and it
took Muhammed fifteen (15) good days
to answer and when he answerd see what he was saying. Why can't
Muhammed be sured of their numbers?
7. 'They ask you about this , Say..... ' - I
hate that statement in Quran. Is Allah or
Muhammed teaching his followers how
to tackle Christians and Jews? This shows that Muhammed knows himself to be a
liar.
8. The Quran made mentioned of these
prophets. Adam, Noah, Abraham, Lot,
Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and his
eleven brothers(not by names) Moses, Aaron, Zakariah( John the Baptize's
father) , Elias,David Solomon, John the
Baptize, Jesus. To confirme the Scripure
that was sent before Quran but Allah /
Quran/ Muhammed did not make mention
of Many prophets such as Isaiah, Jeremaiah, Ezeikel, Nehemaiah, Malachi,
Zechariah ,Amos. Were they not Prophet
of God?
Allah /Quran/ Muhammed tells the Stories
of Adam, Abraham, Mose Aaron And
Pharao, the Thamud ,add, Sodom and Gomarah, Mary, John the
Baptize ,Jesus ,to confirm scripture before
Quran but what about the prophecies of
the above prophets that Quran did not
mention were they not from God? And if
Muslims would talk , they would say Quran is not a story book.
9. The parables in Quran- cannot be
compared with Bible's parable . How
could God almighty gives those childish
tale as parable. It proved Muhammed to
be a liar. 10. Muhamned the loveth prophet of
Allah, whose Allah has forgiven his past,
the present, and the future sins. The man
that would interceed for Muslims on the
day of judgement. The man who knows
what God would say on the day of Judgement and how God would judged
the sinner.
I just can fathom why Muhammed
deserved the merit he gave to himself
over other prophets.
In a nutshell, Muhammed was self proclaimed prophet that envey the Jews
because both arab and Jew were
decsendants of Abraham. He created his
religion to save arab of shame of not
having a single prophet.

The Quran is the holy book which Muslims recite and turn to for
guidance in all aspects of their lives. Its verses have remained intact
since their original revelation by God in the 7th century. This brochure
explains the divine origin of the Quran by elaborating upon its
preservation, authenticity and miracles. It also discusses the Quranic
message which has universal appeal and is relevant for all times.
The Quran is the last testament in a series of divine revelations from God
( Allah in Arabic). It consists of the unaltered and direct words of God,
which were revealed through the Angel Gabriel to Muhammadp, the final
prophet of Islam, more than 1400 years ago.
Islam is a continuation of the message received by previous prophets, such
as Noah, Abraham, David, Moses and Jesus, peace be upon them all.
Therefore, the Quran maintains the pure teachings of previous revelations,
including the Torah and the Gospel. The Quran describes that all the
prophets taught people to believe in the One God, the Creator. The
messengers also instructed them to spend their lives with God-
consciousness, doing good deeds and avoiding sins. Moreover, they
warned their fellow humans of accountability in the afterlife, a subject
which the Quran returns to again and again.
Since its revelation, the Quran (also spelled ‘Koran’) has remained
preserved in its exact, primary text. While numerous translations of the
Quran exist, they are all based on the single, original Arabic script,
making the Quran unique from previous scriptures in its pure authenticity.
Message
The distinctive approach of the Quran is that its spiritual message includes
practical injunctions aimed at the general welfare of individuals, society
and the environment in which we live.
The Quran’s message is eternal and universal, transcending our
differences in race, color, ethnicity and nationality. It provides
guidance on every facet of human life – from economics and the ethics
of trade to marriage, divorce, parenting, gender issues and inheritance.
Monotheism is a prominent theme of the Quran, affirming that God is One
without any partners. In a concisely-worded Quranic chapter, God
commands, “Say, ‘He is God the One, God the eternal. He begot no one
nor was He begotten. No one is comparable to Him’” (112:1-4).
A foundational message in the Quran is its emphasis on righteous conduct
built on firm belief and love for God. The Quran acknowledges human
desires while reminding individuals to cultivate their souls. In addition,
God calls on humans to use their intellect and reflect on the world around
them. The Quran encourages humankind to recognize the signs of God’s
existence in the precise order of the universe and the careful placement of
every object in the total scheme of creation.
As Cat Stevens (Yusuf Islam), former British pop star, has expressed,
“Everything made so much sense. This is the beauty of the Quran; it
asks you to reflect and reason… When I read the Quran further, it
talked about prayer, kindness and charity. I was not a Muslim yet, but
I felt the only answer for me was the Quran and God had sent it to
me.”
Preservation
Muslims believe that God sent many revelations to humanity
throughout history, and over time they underwent changes from their
original form. However, God chose to preserve His message to
humanity in His final revelation, the Quran. Yet, one might wonder,
which evidence supports the claim that the Quran has never been
modified?
The Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammadp over a period of 23
years. The unique rhythmic style of the Quran made it easy to memorize,
which has been the main source of its preservation. Moreover, since
Prophet Muhammad p could not read or write, he appointed scribes to
record the Quran as it was being revealed to him. Thus, the complete
Quran was not only memorized by Prophet Muhammad p and many of his
companions, but it also existed in its entirety in written form during his
lifetime.
Within a year after Prophet Muhammadp’s death, a manuscript of the
entire Quran was assembled by a committee led by his chief scribe, who
followed stringent criteria to safeguard against any errors. This copy was
approved unanimously by Prophet Muhammad p’s companions, including
hundreds that had memorized the entire Quran. Eventually, several copies
of the Quran were compiled in book form and distributed to the major
Muslim cities. One such copy is currently at the museum in Tashkent and
a facsimile of it, produced in 1905, is available in the Columbia
University Library.
The process of memorization began during Prophet Muhammadp’s life
and is still emphasized by Muslims to this day. In his book, An
Introduction to Hadith, John Burton explains that oral transmission
through the generations aids preservation by diminishing reliance solely
on written records. Manuscripts which are not protected through
memorization can be altered, edited or lost overtime. However, a book
that is committed to memory by millions of people across the world over
centuries cannot be changed due to the amount of people who know it
word-for-word.
God promises in the Quran, “We have, without doubt, sent down the
Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption)” (15:9).
Authenticity
Many people mistakenly believe that the Quran was authored by
Prophet Muhammad p. In fact, the Quran is the preserved speech of
God. At the same time, one might ask, which proofs indicate that the
Quran is the Word of God and not the writings of Prophet
Muhammad p?
In the Quran, God addresses Prophet Muhammadp, “You never recited
any Scripture before We revealed this one to you; you never wrote one
down with your hand” (29:48). In other words, Prophet Muhammadp, who
was known to be illiterate, neither read any previous scriptures nor wrote
the Quran.
Prophet Muhammadp was greatly regarded in his society for his superior
character and exceptional manners, earning him the title of the ‘Truthful
One.’ Even after his prophethood, the elite of Mecca were ready to make
him their leader, so long as he allowed them to continue their pagan
lifestyles. Yet, he was willing to forego all worldly glory in order to fulfill
his mission. As a result, he suffered patiently through persecution and
exile before ultimately succeeding in revolutionizing the entire Arabian
Peninsula.
Through it all, God kept on revealing the Quran to him piecemeal.
Occasionally, the revelations stopped temporarily, reminding him and
others that he had no control over them. Once, when two envoys posed
some questions to him, he replied, “Tomorrow I will tell you.” He
expected God will inspire the answers in him through revelation and he
waited for Angel Gabriel. However, revelation did not come during the
next few weeks even as Meccans taunted him. Finally, God sent him the
response while admonishing him, “Do not say of anything, ‘I will do that
tomorrow,’ without adding, ‘God willing’” (Quran, 18:23-24).
The Quran was revealed at a time when the Arabs excelled in oral poetry.
However, despite his intelligence, Prophet Muhammad p was not skilled in
composing poetry. Yet, when the Quranic verses were recited, they
stunned even the most acclaimed poets in the society. Deeply moved by
the rhythmic tone, literary merit and penetrating wisdom of the Quran,
many converted to Islam. Indeed, the science of Arabic grammar was
developed after the revelation of the Quran, using the Quran as a basis for
devising its rules.
There are many miracles in the Quran which themselves attest to the fact
that this truly is a divine scripture.
Miracles
The Quran mentions phenomena that were unknown at the time. In fact,
many were only recently discovered by modern science.
For example, God describes the stages of human development in the
womb:
We created man from an essence of clay, then We placed him as a drop
of fluid in a safe place, then We made that drop into a clinging form,
and We made that form into a lump of flesh, and We made that lump into
bones, and We clothed those bones with flesh, and later We made him into
other forms –– glory be to God, the best of creators! (Quran, 23:12-14)
Professor Keith Moore, a prominent scientist of anatomy and embryology
at the University of Toronto, Canada, has stated, “It has been a great
pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Quran about human
development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to
Muhammad from God … because almost all of this knowledge was not
discovered until many centuries later.”
The Quran also describes the expansion of the universe: “And it is We who
have built the universe with (Our creative) power; and verily, it is We
who are steadily expanding it” (51:47). It was not until 1925, when
Edwin Hubble provided evidence of receding galaxies, that the expanding
universe came to be accepted as a scientific fact.
Professor Alfred Kroner, a world-famous geologist, explained: “Thinking
about many of these questions and thinking where Muhammad came
from, he was after all a Bedouin, I think it is almost impossible that he
could have known about things like the common origin of the universe,
because scientists have only found out within the last few years with
very complicated and advanced technological methods that this is the
case.”
Universality
“This is the Scripture in which there is no doubt, containing guidance for
those who are mindful of God, who believe in the unseen…” (Quran,
2:2-3).
The Quranic message is relevant to every nation and era – another proof
that the Quran is truly the Word of God. Intending for this Book to remain
a source of guidance, inspiration, wisdom and healing for all of humanity,
God designed its message to transcend the bounds of time.
The Quran’s divine message applies to all aspects of life and rises above
the superficial differences among humans. Its teachings guide the
spiritual, social and intellectual needs of humanity. It encourages us to
remember God often, to humble ourselves before Him, to fulfill our
promises, to work together as a community and to remain patient and
perseverant in times of hardship. Quranic stories teach us the importance
of placing our trust in God, speaking the truth in the face of injustice and
dealing with fellow humans with mercy.
In a world starved of love and compassion, the Quran’s universal message
provides the solution to the collective despair of the human condition. We
invite you to open it and receive the great benefit this book has to offer.
This is a blessed Book which We sent down to you [Muhammad], for
people to ponder over its message, and for those with understanding to
be reminded. (Quran, 38:29)
Note: The subscript p next to Prophet Muhammadp represents the
invocation Muslims say with his name: May God’s peace and blessings
be upon him.