Cockatrices, fiery serpents. Where are all these creatures mentioned the God's holy books - Torah, Bible and Quran?


Are these creatures alive now, dead and extinct or just figments of the imagination of the writers of these books?

but tell me, how do you explain the great number of believers amongst people who work as scientists, as astronomers, as teachers, as physicists. They should be all atheists, no? their work is to discover the rules, the evolution, the universe, , and yet they see God and the perfection of his work better than anyone

hmm, oh what a tangled web we weave

Cayon:

but tell me, how do you explain the great number of believers amongst people who work as scientists, as astronomers, as teachers, as physicists. They should be all atheists, no? their work is to discover the rules, the evolution, the universe, , and yet they see God and the perfection of his work better than anyone

hmm, oh what a tangled web we weave

Why you no try answer dey question nah?

Cayon:

but tell me, how do you explain the great number of believers amongst people who work as scientists, as astronomers, as teachers, as physicists. They should be all atheists, no? their work is to discover the rules, the evolution, the universe, , and yet they see God and the perfection of his work better than anyone

hmm, oh what a tangled web we weave

he asked a question instead of answering you are running wild trying to say something else. . . abi you don become sarah palin?

@Cayon,

Yes, you did not even try to address the question but went straight on the attack. Take another look at the questions, my dear.

@Huxley: « on: October 13, 2008, 10:41 PM »

Cockatrices, fiery serpents. Where are all these creatures mentioned the God's holy books - Torah, Bible and Quran?


Are these creatures alive now, dead and extinct or just figments of the imagination of the writers of these books?

But you forgot to include the Dinasaurs. I guess your knowledge, like the knowledge of every individual person intending to ridicule "true belief," is incomplete. It is exactly the same incomplete state that you will find the knowledge of all humans, if piled up or added up one after the other, from the first man to the last man. God is the only One that has complete Knowledge. The Angels and yes, your best friends the Jinns, do not have complete knowledge.

Now, since, there are things still not discovered, yet they exist in nature, it is possible that these things or some of them do exist, if they were truly from creations. Further, some or all may have died, just like Dinosaurs did. And my argument is on the side of Qur'an, since I am a muslim. All that appears in Qur'an is true. Take that to the Bank.

And we have read in tradition folklores where the wildest creatures, including humans with more than the usual and normal features are described. The Yoruba novels are full of these creatures. In india, we have seen some abnormalities in human birth. A girl with multiple limbs. A person with two heads. We also have conjoined birth as in siamese, etc. And in nature, only God knows the extent of all weird existences, we do not know, yet in the wild, among trees and animals.

Interestingly, sometimes this year, they show on national geographic channel, a group of people who look like trees, with some afflictions changing their normal human look.

mazaje:

he asked a question instead of answering you are running wild trying to say something else. . . abi you don become sarah palin?

greed and corruption among atheists

@Huxley: Here is what I just found on MSNBC.com. I thought it might interest your "mind." The fact is that not all things in existence are already "discovered!" Some may be extinct before human may have a chance to get into their "territorial existence!" Discovery, discovery, and discovery.


Bug from Borneo is the world's longest
Insect is nearly the length of a human arm, British scientists say

AP
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updated 7:11 p.m. ET, Thurs., Oct. 16, 2008
LONDON - Nearly the length of a human arm, a recently identified stick bug from the island of Borneo is the world's longest insect, British scientists said Thursday.

The specimen was found by a local villager and handed to Malaysian amateur naturalist Datuk Chan Chew Lun in 1989, according to Philip Bragg, who formally identified the insect in this month's issue of peer-reviewed journal Zootaxa. The insect was named Phobaeticus chani, or "Chan's megastick," in Chan's honor.

Paul Brock, a scientific associate of the Natural History Museum in London unconnected to the animal's discovery said there was no doubt it was the longest extant insect ever found.


Olabowale's comment to prick Huxley and co's conscience. That is if there is any; We must just have to reflect on the power of the Creating force that brought about this creature. How many of those "rare," truly undiscovered creatures that may have perished, while we try to box the Creator, to only just what we know and have discovered!

Could people who lived 2,000 years ago, could have been able to imagine what the aircrafts of today formulated and manufactured by their offsprings, us, are capable of? Some aircrafts can almost stop in the air and hover on the spot. Some can go to tremendous distance in the space. Some are remotely controlled. Yet, others are different from any of these. I am sure there are still others to be discovered by this generations, maybe as a hub, where others will dock and take from the mother craft passengers to their specific destinations. There is no doubt that future human generations will even do better than this present generations.



Looking more like a solid shoot of bamboo than its smaller, frailer cousins, the dull-green insect measures about 22 inches (56.7 centimeters), if its delicate, twig-like legs are counted. There are 14 inches (35.7 centimeters) from the tip of its head to the bottom of its abdomen, beating the previous record body length, held by Phobaeticus kirbyi, also from Borneo, by about an inch (2.9 centimeters).

Stick bugs, also known as phasmids, have some of the animal kingdom's cleverest camouflage. Although some phasmids use noxious sprays or prickly spines to deter their predators, generally the bugs assume the shape of sticks and leaves to avoid drawing attention.

"Their main defense is basically hanging around, looking like a twig," Brock said. "It will even sway in the wind."


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For Bragg, who works as a schoolteacher and catalogues stick bugs as a hobby, the discovery showed the urgency of conservation work.

"There aren't enough specialists around to work on all the insects in the world," he said. "There's going to be stuff that's extinct before anyone gets around to describing it."

The Phobaeticus chani is now a part of the Natural History Museum's "Creepy Crawlies" gallery. It went on display Thursday.

© 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

olabowale:

@Huxley: [size=16pt]Here is what I just found on MSNBC.com. I thought it might interest your "mind." The fact is that not all things in existence are already "discovered!" Some may be extinct before human may have a chance to get into their "territorial existence!" Discovery, discovery, and discovery. [/size]

Bug from Borneo is the world's longest
Insect is nearly the length of a human arm, British scientists say

AP
In this undated picture made available by Britain's Natural History Museum, Orthoptera Curator George Beccaloni holds a giant stick insect named Phobaeticus chani, which has been identified as the world's longest insect.
View related photos

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From the bushy-tailed aye-aye to the seafloor-dwelling yeti crab, these wonderfully weird creatures live on nature's fringes.

Bug from Borneo is the world's longest

Most viewed on msnbc.com

updated 7:11 p.m. ET, Thurs., Oct. 16, 2008
LONDON - Nearly the length of a human arm, a recently identified stick bug from the island of Borneo is the world's longest insect, British scientists said Thursday.

The specimen was found by a local villager and handed to Malaysian amateur naturalist Datuk Chan Chew Lun in 1989, according to Philip Bragg, who formally identified the insect in this month's issue of peer-reviewed journal Zootaxa. The insect was named Phobaeticus chani, or "Chan's megastick," in Chan's honor.

Paul Brock, a scientific associate of the Natural History Museum in London unconnected to the animal's discovery said there was no doubt it was the longest extant insect ever found.


Olabowale's comment to prick Huxley and co's conscience. That is if there is any; We must just have to reflect on the power of the Creating force that brought about this creature. How many of those "rare," truly undiscovered creatures that may have perished, while we try to box the Creator, to only just what we know and have discovered!

Could people who lived 2,000 years ago, could have been able to imagine what the aircrafts of today formulated and manufactured by their offsprings, us, are capable of? Some aircrafts can almost stop in the air and hover on the spot. Some can go to tremendous distance in the space. Some are remotely controlled. Yet, others are different from any of these. I am sure there are still others to be discovered by this generations, maybe as a hub, where others will dock and take from the mother craft passengers to their specific destinations. There is no doubt that future human generations will even do better than this present generations.



Looking more like a solid shoot of bamboo than its smaller, frailer cousins, the dull-green insect measures about 22 inches (56.7 centimeters), if its delicate, twig-like legs are counted. There are 14 inches (35.7 centimeters) from the tip of its head to the bottom of its abdomen, beating the previous record body length, held by Phobaeticus kirbyi, also from Borneo, by about an inch (2.9 centimeters).

Stick bugs, also known as phasmids, have some of the animal kingdom's cleverest camouflage. Although some phasmids use noxious sprays or prickly spines to deter their predators, generally the bugs assume the shape of sticks and leaves to avoid drawing attention.

"Their main defense is basically hanging around, looking like a twig," Brock said. "It will even sway in the wind."


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For Bragg, who works as a schoolteacher and catalogues stick bugs as a hobby, the discovery showed the urgency of conservation work.

"There aren't enough specialists around to work on all the insects in the world," he said. "There's going to be stuff that's extinct before anyone gets around to describing it."

The Phobaeticus chani is now a part of the Natural History Museum's "Creepy Crawlies" gallery. It went on display Thursday.

© 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

If you have just found this out, CONGRATULATIONS . You seem to be on the path to join the ranks of the mature and rational, leaving behind the infantilism of your past.

Huxley: You are a funny dude. In my days in the University, there was this Cameroonian guy who was in Electrical Engineering. His name was Mathias. You are the antithesis of this dude.

While he appreciated God, you and all the atheists of Africa, seem to even be worse that the puppettiers of Euro and new world whom you are blindly copying.

If I have just discovered the above, when did you discovered it before last year? Rather when did you discovered it? Stop the african madman syndrome. As much as I enjoy your provocative efforts, you seem to be blind to reality! Who do you think created and supported the people on the other side of the world from you, as well as you?

The guys on the exact opposite of you, on the other side of the world sees you as if you are Upside down. Yet it is the same way you see them, if you visually can see each other! But yet neither of you has lost his footing on the surface of the earth! You are not floating away from the surface of the earth and away into the atmosphere, the space!

That God that has prevented you from this certain calamitous event, is able to produce anything He wills. If it exists, whether you or I or any person ever saw it or not, it does not matter.

ola: Salaam!

Were you at UI??
.

@Nimshi: In USA. Salaam.

olabowale:

Huxley: You are a funny dude. In my days in the University, there was this Cameroonian guy who was in Electrical Engineering. His name was Mathias. You are the antithesis of this dude.

While he appreciated God, you and all the atheists of Africa, seem to even be worse that the puppettiers of Euro and new world whom you are blindly copying.

If I have just discovered the above, when did you discovered it before last year? Rather when did you discovered it? Stop the african madman syndrome. As much as I enjoy your provocative efforts, you seem to be blind to reality! Who do you think created and supported the people on the other side of the world from you, as well as you?

The guys on the exact opposite of you, on the other side of the world sees you as if you are Upside down. Yet it is the same way you see them, if you visually can see each other! But yet neither of you has lost his footing on the surface of the earth! You are not floating away from the surface of the earth and away into the atmosphere, the space!

That God that has prevented you from this certain calamitous event, is able to produce anything He wills. If it exists, whether you or I or any person ever saw it or not, it does not matter.

Man, you are so insufferable. Remember on the other thread I asked you a series of questions. You complained that you could not take take, but when it comes to "copying" barbaric dogma from the Middle East, you are the first one to plunge head first.

Go address my question show us for once that you can think, rather than follow slavishly religious dogma.

@Huxley: « #13 on: Yesterday at 11:47:03 PM »

Man, you are so insufferable. Remember on the other thread I asked you a series of questions. You complained that you could not take take, but when it comes to "copying" barbaric dogma from the Middle East, you are the first one to plunge head first.

And before Suez Canal, the whole of "Middle East," was tied to the "Larger African" Continent. More importantly, I am a muslim. Should I be wasting my time learning or defending the "Lodge?" Sometimes, you tactics is so shameful. You can only ask question, but your antiGod the Creator "Dogmatic thinking" can handle the truth. Hence, no one really read you answering in a truly logical sense how you can come to the conclusion that your "grandpappie" was a common gorilla! lol. I can say it to you, because you truly believe that you are from a monkey. No you are a different kind of a monkey!

Go address my question show us for once that you can think, rather than follow slavishly religious dogma.

I am a slave man. Come of your high horse. My slavery is to Allah, alone. Therefore, I have a freedom not to just everytime you say so. If you want answer to your list of "questions," go to your sources; various sites on WWW! You want somebody to do your research for you, go hire people that will take farm hand wages.

How do you bring the irrelevance to a religious board where God and the obedience to Him should be discussed, and you think I will entertain your "disbelieving mind!" In the words of Pilgrim.1; you don bellyfull. Which one of the many authentic dishes you ate? I hope you are married. Its a better life when a man is married that when he is a permanent bachelor! To be a permanent bachelor is unnatural.