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3. LIE NUMBER THREE

There is no such term as 'biblical tithing' or 'monetary tithing'. The Bible makes no such demarcations or segregations. This beautiful nonsense is a product of vain imaginations and theologists who hope to confuse the unsuspecting. From Genesis to the end of the Bible, tithe is tithe, simply a tenth, 1/10 of anything or something. Hebrews, Matthew and Luke simply speak of tithes as tithes or a tenth. They don't talk about some biblical tithe or what not.

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Everybody knows that the Bible times were an agrarian society. Their main source of income was agric based dominated. One could easily be butchers, bakers, stone and brick masons, artificers of brass, lawyers, judges, soldiers, tentmakers, sellers of expensive cloths, etc and still tithe. We all know that scribes and pharisees tithed, Jesus Himself said so. The scribes are the intelligent, literate and educated class of society. Same thing with the high and ruling class pharisees. These people still tithed. So what excuse has the lower class. Potiphar for instance shows how a soldier can still have fields.
Gen 39:1 And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmaelites, which had brought him down thither.
Gen 39:4 And Joseph found grace in his sight, and he served him: and he made him overseer over his house, and all that he had he put into his hand.
Gen 39:5 And it came to pass from the time that he had made him overseer in his house, and over all that he had, that the LORD blessed the Egyptian's house for Joseph's sake; and the blessing of the LORD was upon all that he had in the house, and in the field.

Potiphar had field even as an officer.

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There was no levite when Abraham and Jacob gave tithe or said to tithe. Tithe does not have to be given to levites only. By the way, we are not under the levitical priesthood but under Jesus, who is a priest after the order of Melchisedek. Melchisedek received tithes.

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The question now is, IS THERE STILL SERVICE IN THE HOUSE OF GOD OR CHURCH TODAY? Because that is the PURPOSE for the tithe, that there may be meat in God's house. That purpose still exists and can be met using the same principle.

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10. LIE NUMBER TEN

This lie assumes that Abraham's tithe was not biblical. But we do see instances where tithe was given of more than just agric produce in the Bible.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
(ASV) I fast twice in the week; I give tithes of all that I get.

(BBE) Twice in the week I go without food; I give a tenth of all I have.

(CEV) I go without eating for two days a week, and I give you one tenth of all I earn."

(Darby) I fast twice in the week, I tithe everything I gain.
(GNB) I fast two days a week, and I give you one tenth of all my income.'

(ISV) I fast twice a week, and I give a tenth of my entire income.'

The word "all" used in the original is 'pas' and it means ALL,EVERY, ANY, WHOLE. The word "possess" is 'ktaomai' and it means GET, ACQUIRE, POSSESS, OBTAIN. So basically, the tithe here is given of ALL and ANY and EVERY thing GOTTEN, or OBTAINED.

Gen 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
Gen 28:22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

Evidently, there was nothing strange about giving tithes of ALL. Nobody made it strictly or solely agric produce except selective readers of the Bible.

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Tithe has always been of INCOME. Abraham tithed from his INCOME after the war. The Israelites tithed from their income at the harvest.

Zikkyy:

Key word here highlighted blue

DrummaBoy:

abi o

"ordinance of man" indeed.

One would have thought that any careful reader will see that 1pet 2:13 was referring to civil laws governing nations.

Well, of course, if we accept "ordinances of man" as church rules to tithe, then the much vaunted free will tithing will be a sham and we would return to the real gist, which is that modern tithing scheme are "doctrines of men" or better still "ordinance of men"

Zikkyy:

You can say tithe is '1/10 of anything or something'. what you don't know is that most 1/10th do not qualify as God's tithe (and acceptable to him). We are interested in God's tithe not that of man. You can keep your definition of tithe, we'll go with God's definition.....

Leviticus 27:30-33 (NIV)
30 “‘A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord. 31 Whoever would redeem any of their tithe must add a fifth of the value to it. 32 Every tithe of the herd and flock—every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod—will be holy to the Lord. 33 No one may pick out the good from the bad or make any substitution. If anyone does make a substitution, both the animal and its substitute become holy and cannot be redeemed.’”

Zikkyy:

Atleast you agree that itis possible for soldiers, lawyers e.t.c to have field for part-time farming. If soldiers tithed, be sure it was farm produce and nothing more. That was the command; farm produce only.

God specified the type of sea food that was edible, he specified the types of wild animals & birds that edible. What we did not read him say was that fisher men should tithe their fish; we don't read him saying hunters should tithe their bushmeat, yet Israelite made gains from fishing and hunting. So its not just about vegetables and animals, it was about farm produce.

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There is nothing called God's tithe. That is another fabrication of unserious theologists. The word of God simply refers to a tenth as tithe. It makes no seminary talks about bogus phrases like God's tithe, biblical tithe, monetary tithe. These are all new age phrases coined by antitithers to sound intelligent and trip undiscerning fellows who refuse to search whether these things are so. Bible says nothing about God's acceptable tithes or unacceptable tithes. Add not to God's word.

Zikkyy:

No wahala. also note that under Melchisedek type priethood, the highpriest is physically present to receive the tithe. i.e. no intermediary so if you must give tithe to Jesus because 'Melchisedek received tithes', you will have to borrow ya pastor's private jet to deliver the tithe to Jesus (that's assuming you are not a pastor )



So you even know the purpose of the tithe There is nothing wrong with the 'church' agreeing to a donation amounting to 10% their income as contribution to funding the church project(s). But it should not be referred to as God's tithe.

Zikkyy:

Image123, you are relying on one of Jesus tales by moonlight to prove that tithe was more than just agric produce Na wa for you You see an instance of a jew giving more than just agric produce and it becomes your justification for asking for tithe of raw cash. BTW did God command that Jews fast twice a week? the answer is NO!, did God command that Jews tithe everything they own? the answer is NO! this was a clear case of 'over-sabi' or ITK and Jesus was not impressed (and i don't see any reason why i should be impressed). to think you rely on this tale to justify ya tithe of raw cash. image123 you no dey try at all

Zikkyy:

Tithe was never income, it was agric produce. and Abraham was not in the business of 'reaping' spoils of war. It was possible for the farmers to sell part of their produce for the purpose of purchasing other necessities, the sales proceed was never tithed.

DrummaBoy: I hope OLAADEGBU has received the response to the OP he has been pleading for. Its not that one could not respond to what the OP posted, it is the fact that the OP is hard of hearing, and no one is in the business of pouring water on the back of a duck.

Thank you Zikky for the succinct responses. Your labour of love will not go unrewarded.

PastorKun:

It's obvious that it doesn't to you if the tithe is acceptable to God. All that matters is that it is acceptable to you and your fellow fraudsters.

OLAADEGBU:

Don't ask questions answer the OP.

PastorKun:

It's obvious that it doesn't to you if the tithe is acceptable to God.
All that matters is that it is acceptable to you and your fellow fraudsters

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Does the bible talk about a tithe that is not acceptable to God? If yes, kindly state where.
i really don't expect you to answer do i? Your fort is insults not intelligence or Christianity.
i'm expecting your fans to come to the rescue.

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What is income?

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[size=20pt]There is nothing called God's tithe.[/size] That is another fabrication of unserious theologists. The word of God simply refers to a tenth as tithe. It makes no seminary talks about bogus phrases like God's tithe, biblical tithe, monetary tithe. These are all new age phrases coined by antitithers to sound intelligent and trip undiscerning fellows who refuse to search whether these things are so. Bible says nothing about God's acceptable tithes or unacceptable tithes. Add not to God's word.

Goshen360:

Haaaa, Imageeeeee. Why are you lying in disguise you're debunking "14 tithing lies".

If there's nothing like God's tithe, the ones you and your cohorts collect\receive and\or pay, in whose name is it collected? On whose behalf do you collect or pay it? Who do you say owns the tithe you paying or collecting from people?

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Is the tithe i give God's tithe?

Goshen360:

Answer yourself because you said, there's nothing like God's tithe.

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Is the tithe i give God's tithe?

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i need your opinion and i asked first na.

Goshen360:

You don't need my opinion as usual when your mind is made up from your statement - There's nothing like God's tithe. If God defined His tithe and you come here to tell us, there's nothing like God's tithe. What opinion are you seeking? You've being in the forefront of advancing this false tithe teaching for many years on this forum and you've been told the truth in those years but, you are stocked in traditions and religion and seems not to want to set yourself free by the simplicity of the gospel. What I know is, we will continue to challenge this false tithe teachings for Christians as long as you people are not tired.

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Does the bible talk about a tithe that is not acceptable to God? If yes, kindly state where.
i really don't expect you to answer do i? Your fort is insults not intelligence or Christianity. i'm expecting your fans to come to the rescue.

PastorKun:

I guess tithes from armed robbery and prostitution is acceptable to your god afterall you once implied that you tithe out of the egunje you collect as a civil servant.

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Does the bible talk about a tithe that is not acceptable to God? If yes, kindly state where.
i really don't expect you to answer do i? Your fort is insults not intelligence or Christianity. i'm expecting your fans to come to the rescue.

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Why guess? Answer the question.

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Don't just hope oh, you will need massive faith and prayers for this one, lol.
Your helper zikkyy only picked some few phrases to comment on without any rebuttal
He apparently seems convinced that lies 1, 2, 4, 6, 9, 12, 13 and 14 have been caught red handed.
Also, while i'm happy with your vow not to ever question what i say about tithes, you can still call my name, ok?
i hope that wasn't part of your resolve, you don't want to be childish i hope

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There is nothing called God's tithe.

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The word of God simply refers to a tenth as tithe.