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| Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by mojeer678: 9:29pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
This is the time for critical thinking and logical deduction. Forget Hollywood's spawned 'Contagion' which is a predictive programming designed to prepare the minds of the gullible for this kind of reaction we are now seeing globally. The hues and cries over this latest outbreak of Ebola, given the fact that it has been around since 1976 when it was initially recognised should make us pause and think. The manner governments and the media are treating this issue is suspicious and should be a cause for concern. It basically is another exercise in government-corporation domination. We have heard some sound bites meant to whip up hysteria by some political figures whose understanding of what the virus actually does is at best questionable, given their past antecedents. Ebola is probably the best known of a class of viruses known as hemorrhagic fever viruses. In fact, Ebola virus was initially recognized in 1976. Other less known but related viral syndromes include yellow fever, dengue hemorrhagic fever, Rift Valley fever, Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever, Kyasanur Forest disease, Omsk hemorrhagic fever, hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome, Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever, Brazilian hemorrhagic fever, Argentine hemorrhagic fever, Bolivian hemorrhagic fever, and Lassa fever. The Ebola virus infection, also known as African hemorrhagic fever, has the distinction of having the highest case-fatality rate of the viral infections noted above, ranging from 53% to 88%. These viral hemorrhagic fever syndromes share certain clinical features. The Cecil Textbook of Medicine notes that these diseases are characterized by capillary fragility, which translates to easy bleeding, that can frequently lead to severe shock and death. These diseases also tend to consume and/or destroy the platelets, which play an integral role in blood clotting. The clinical presentation of these viral diseases is similar to scurvy, which is also characterized by capillary fragility and a tendency to bleed easily. Characteristic skin lesions develop, which are actually multiple tiny areas of bleeding into the skin that surround the hair follicles. some cases even include bleeding into already healed scars. In the classic form of scurvy that evolves very slowly from the gradual depletion of vitamin C body stores, the immune system will be sufficiently compromised for infection to claim the patient’s life before the extensive hemorrhage that occurs after all vitamin C stores have been completely exhausted. Ebola virus and the other viral hemorrhagic fevers are much more likely to cause hemorrhaging before any other fatal infection has a chance to become established. This is because the virus so rapidly and totally metabolizes and consumes all available vitamin C in the bodies of the victims that an advanced stage of scurvy is literally produced after only a few days of the disease. The scurvy is so complete that the blood vessels generally cannot keep from hemorrhaging long enough to allow an infective complication to develop. Also, the viral hemorrhagic fevers typically only take hold and reach epidemic proportions in those populations that would already be expected to have low body stores of vitamin C, such as is found in many of the severely malnourished Africans. In such individuals, an infecting hemorrhagic virus will often wipe out any remaining vitamin C stores before the immune systems can get the upper hand and initiate recovery. When the vitamin C stores are rapidly depleted by large infecting doses of an aggressive virus, the immune system gets similarly depleted and compromised. However, this point is largely academic after hemorrhaging throughout the body has begun. [b]To date, no viral infection has been demonstrated to be resistant to the proper dosing of vitamin C as classically demonstrated by Klenner. [/b]However, not all viruses have been treated with Klenner-sized vitamin C doses, or at least the results have not been published. Ebola viral infection and the other acute viral hemorrhagic fevers appear to be diseases that fall into this category. Because of the seemingly exceptional ability of these viruses to rapidly deplete vitamin C stores, even larger doses of vitamin C would likely be required in order to effectively reverse and eventually cure infections caused by these viruses. Cathcart (1981), who introduced the concept of bowel tolerance to vitamin C discussed earlier, hypothesized that Ebola and the other acute viral hemorrhagic fevers may well require 500,000 mg of vitamin C daily to reach bowel tolerance! Whether this estimate is accurate, it seems clear as evidenced by the scurvy-like clinical manifestations of these infections that vitamin C dosing must be vigorous and given in extremely high doses. If the disease seems to be winning, then even more vitamin C should be given until symptoms begin to lessen. Obviously, these are viral diseases that would absolutely require high doses of vitamin C intravenously as the initial therapy. The oral administration should begin simultaneously, but the intravenous route should not be abandoned until the clinical response is complete. Death occurs too quickly with the hemorrhagic fevers to be conservative when dosing the vitamin C. (from Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases, and Toxins:Curing the Incurable by Thomas E. Levy MD JD) See: http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/ So, contrary to what we have been told, Ebola is curable. (to be continued) 1 Like |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by mojeer678: 9:36pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
mojeer678: This is the time for critical thinking and logical deduction. Forget Hollywood's spawned 'Contagion' which is a predictive programming designed to prepare the minds of the gullible for this kind of reaction we are now seeing globally. Ebola: Covert Op in a Hypnotized world by Jon Rappoport August 2, 2014 www.nomorefakenews.com You show people a germ and you tell them what it is and what it does, and people salute. They give in. They believe. They actually know nothing. But they believe. The massive campaign to make people believe the Ebola virus can attack at any moment, after the slightest contact, is quite a success. People are falling all over themselves to raise the level of hysteria. This is what is preventing a hard look at Liberia, Sierra Leone, and the Republic Guinea, three African nations where poverty and illness are staples of everyday life for the overwhelming number of people. The command structure in those areas has a single dictum: don’t solve the human problem. Don’t clean up the contaminated water supplies, don’t return stolen land to the people so they can grow food and finally achieve nutritional health, don’t solve overcrowding, don’t install basic sanitation, don’t strengthen their immune systems so they can ward off germs, don’t let the people have power—because then they would throw off the local and global corporate juggernauts that are sucking the land of all its resources. In order not to solve the problems of the people, a cover story is necessary. A cover story that exonerates the power structure. A cover story like a germ. It’s all about the germ. The demon. The strange attacker. (See, for example, this March 27th, Reuter’s article entitled “Beware of bats: Guinea issues bushmeat warning after Ebola outbreak”.) Forget everything else. The germ is the single enemy. Forget the fact, for example, that a recent study of 15 pharmacies and 5 hospital drug dispensaries in Sierra Leone discovered the widespread and unconscionable use of beta-lactam antibiotics. These drugs are highly toxic. One of their effects? Excessive bleeding. Which just happens to be the scary “Ebola effect” that’s being trumpeted in the world press. (J Clin Microbiol, July 2013, 51(7), 2435-2438), and Annals of Internal Medicine Dec. 1986, “Potential for bleeding with the new beta-lactam antibiotics”) Forget the fact that pesticide companies are notorious for shipping banned toxic pesticides to Africa. One effect of the chemicals? Bleeding. Forget that. It’s all about the germ and nothing but the germ. Forget the fact that, for decades, one of the leading causes of death in the Third World has been uncontrolled diarrhea. Electrolytes are drained from the body, and the adult or the baby dies. Any sane doctor would make it his first order of business to replace electrolytes with simple supplementation—but no, the standard medical line goes this way: The diarrhea is caused by germs in the intestinal tract, so we must pile on massive amounts of antibiotics to kill the germs. The drugs kill off all bacteria in the gut, including the necessary and beneficial ones, and the patient can’t absorb what little food he has access to, and he dies. Along the way, he can also bleed. But no, all the bleeding comes from Ebola. It’s the germ. Don’t think about anything else. Forget the fact that adenovirus vaccines, which have been used in Liberia, Guinea, and Liberia (the epicenter of Ebola), have, according to vaccines.gov, the following adverse effects: blood in the urine or stool, and diarrhea. No, all the bleeding comes from the Ebola germ. Of course. Don’t think about anything else. Reporter Charles Yates uncovered a scandal in Liberia centering around the Firestone Rubber Plantation—chemical dumping, poisoned water. And skin disease. “Rash” is listed as one of the Ebola symptoms. So is diarrhea. Liberia Coca Cola bottling plant: foul black liquid seeping into the environment—animals dying. Chronic malnutrition and starvation—conditions that are endemic in Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea—are the number-one cause of T-cells depletion in the world. T-cells are a vital component of the immune system. When that system is compromised, any germ coming down the pipeline will cause epidemics and death. Getting the picture? Blame it all on the germ. Allow the corporate-government domination to continue. (to be continued) 1 Like |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by mojeer678: 10:00pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
mojeer678: Of course, it serves as a convenient distraction from pressing socio-economic problems of each affected government. Ebola has now taken centre-stage and other irritating problems such as the Chibok girls abduction, the corruption in the NNPC and other government ministries, the ineptitude and the cluelessness displayed in statecraft, high and rising cases of unemployment, increasing militarisation of the polity in the guise of electioneering, gradual ascension of terror as a normalcy, et.c Is it Ebola or is it psychological warfare? by Jon Rappoport July 31, 2014 www.nomorefakenews.com Now that the world has been put on notice about Ebola, it’s time to try facts instead of scare tactics. The World Health Organization (WHO) is the primary reporting agency on case numbers and deaths. Taking their stats with a few grains of salt, but recognizing that mainstream accounts come from WHO, here is their July 25 update, “Ebola Virus Disease, West Africa”: 1201 total cases. 672 deaths. These numbers cover Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia—the Ebola focus areas. Looking a little deeper, we see that WHO divides each number into categories: “confirmed,” “probable,” and “suspected.” Diagnostic methods for IDing Ebola in those 3 countries are uncertain. Therefore, we should only consider the category labeled “confirmed,” and even then we should have doubts. So let’s look at the total for confirmed Ebola case numbers in those countries. It’s 814. Confirmed number of deaths? 456. Now consider another WHO report. This one is titled: “Influenza (Seasonal) World Health Organization,” dated April 2009. It’s the WHO fact sheet on regular seasonal flu, the kind that is said to infect people globally, year after year, like clockwork. Ready? Annual number of severe cases: 3-5 million. Annual number of deaths: between 250,000 and 500,000. Remember, that’s every year—not a one-time shot. When it comes to seasonal regular flu, the World Health Organization issues no scare reports, no dire warnings, and the press mentions nothing. Zero. However, with 814 confirmed cases and 456 deaths from Ebola, the whole world is put on notice. We hear about possible travel restrictions. In the US, portable disease-diagnosing machines have been passed out out to many local communities. There are murmurs about detaining people who may have come in contact with somebody who may have Ebola. Something is very wrong here. Something is upside down. If you set aside the images and fear-mongering of the press, you begin to see this is a propaganda operation, there is a selective process at work—what disease to promote, what disease to ignore. Imagine what would happen if WHO released a statement in which it substituted “Ebola” for “regular seasonal flu”: “There are 3 to five million cases of Ebola worldwide. Between 250,000 and 500,000 people are dead.” The world would go crazy. But again, there ARE 3 to 5 million cases, every year, of regular seasonal flu, and according to WHO, between 250,000 and 500,000 people die from it. And the world does nothing. People would respond, “Oh, but you see, Ebola is different. People hemorrhage. They bleed out and die. It’s horrible.” Now we’re talking about the process of dying, as if that really matters. And, with flu, when people die, they often drown in their own mucus. Is that vivid enough to rank alongside Ebola? Ebola is a propaganda operation. Choices are being made: what to emphasize, what to ignore, what to use in order to invoke fear. Producing fear, one way or another, is a standard element in exerting top-down control over the population. When people are afraid, they’re compliant, they’re obedient to authority. And that’s the agenda. We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religions destroy morals, and our banks destroy the economy. - Neal. 2 Likes |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by Christmasdon(m): 10:52pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
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| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by algorithmz(m): 11:33pm On Aug 03, 2014 |
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| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by Affable0709(m): 12:39am On Aug 04, 2014 |
Propaganda plan it is! and truely, when people are afraid they accept any thing! my Dad cant stop say this is 'end time deseases'.... according to what i read here in nl.... its 'an engineered virus' to reduce africa's population so that "their world order" would stand! fabricated!! God guard his people... repent. |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by Nobody: 9:57pm On Aug 04, 2014 |
Nice thread. I know that there is no chance of it making the Front Page though. 1 Like |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by mojeer678: 1:38am On Aug 25, 2014 |
GenBuhari: Nice thread. We are now getting to understand NL better. Serious stuff are loathed while silly topics make FP. That won't and shouldn't dissuade us from continue to be telling the truth. More of the truth: According to David Hodges, "In the 1980′s, the population crisis seemed to be over. The replacement population rate needed to maintain a population is 2.1 children per woman and across the planet that standard was basically maintained. However, there was one major exception and that was in the sub-Saharan Africa. United Nations population experts and the world’s politicians convened what is now described as the first Agenda 21 conference, in 1994, in which an overt depopulation strategy was replaced by an agenda centered on empowering women through equal employment opportunities thus delaying childbirth and lessening the birth rate. Also, the UN and world leaders espoused increasing access to birth control and abortion, thus, killing unborn babies in fulfillment of Margaret Sanger’s expressed desire. These early depopulation strategies are benign, even the scourge of abortion, when compared to more black project agendas that were conducted at the same time. The problem with using various birth control methods is that they are slow multi-generational process and this lack of quick progress does not give the elite what they need and want which is to depopulate the world quickly. For dramatic changes in population, a more radical agenda is needed. More deadly methods involving war and disease are preferable to members of the ruling elite who desire quick results, which are needed to save the planet from man-made climate change. This is what I submit is exactly what we are beginning to see." Since the elite failed to get Africa in check with tasteful methods, they launched a new strain of ebola there to get things done more quickly. It is obvious, ebola was originally a super stable virus that had not changed for millenia. What caused the radical change to get it airborne? YOU GUESS. For easier answer: http://desertpeace./2014/08/26/ebola-accident-or-genocide/ |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by Nobody: 12:29am On Aug 29, 2014 |
Nigerian love to be deceived. It is always an uphill struggle trying to tell Nigerians the truth after they have been deceived. mojeer678: |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by jpphilips(m): 3:03pm On Aug 29, 2014 |
mojeer678: You call this serious stuff? you said Ebola is a propaganda, right? the man who wrote the article you posted is Jon Rappoport who lives in San Diego, he calls himself an investigative journalist, in all his Ebola investigations, he never came to West Africa can you ask him why? Rappoport is like a prophet who knows that Christ has followers so the easiest way to get cheap popularity is by debunking the existence or the belief in Christ. I thought that if Jon Rapporport actually believed there is no Ebola, he would be in Liberia Hugging Ebola patients and taking pictures. He said we are scared and ordinary Vitamin C can cure Ebola, In the United states where he lives, two companies who are into Ebola research have been looking for volunteers for their drug clinical trial, why hasn't he gone there to tell them to stop wasting $25m on Zmapp that Vitamin C can do the job? Jon Rapporport is 76 years, should he die today of ebola, I dont think the world will miss him that much, what I find insulting as an African is when the likes of Jon Rapporport want us to die more by peddling conspiracy theories that can easily stick to the mind set of my country men like Gen Buhari, while he stays in far away San diego. I want to urge anyone who has any conspiracy theory about Ebola to set up a camp at Yaba, or any west African country of his chioce, so we can easily get samples to test with. WHO is asking for $480m, 750 international doctors and 1,200 local doctors to stamp out Ebola in the next 6 months, Mr Rapporport, please if you feel that money is a waste, kindly keep that opinion to yourself not to deter people who think other wise from helping us, I believe there is no Ebola in San diego where you live and it will be inhuman to undermine this threat which will go a long way in distracting serious agencies that are willing to help, while you are at it, kindly know that Africa is a region with individuals like Gen. Buhari who have hollow brain cells, may assimilate your preposterous theory there by endangering the populace, the thieves that robbed the Ebola centers last week are now patients in the same center, I am sure they once thought like you. May God bless you as you make your own contribution towards stamping off this threat, I just made mine.  2 Likes |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by jpphilips(m): 3:18pm On Aug 29, 2014 |
GenBuhari: Nigerian love to be deceived. It is always an uphill struggle trying to tell Nigerians the truth after they have been deceived. Why will the elites launch a depopulation campaign against west Africa starting with a country (Guinea) with one of the least populations in the world, according to the OP, he claimed that the elites wanted to get "faster" results? you see what I always tell you about your sub standard education, it doesn't have variables to compare with, even common sense has failed you. read here to know countries in the world that have the highest population, they are the real targets for a depopulation programme. http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/populations/ctypopls.htm Nigeria's failed Government infected Nigerians with Ebola by doing nothing over time while it ravaged other west African countries, Nigeria happened to be 7th on that list, tell me, was Nigeria the real target? if Nigeria was, what would stop them from sending it directly to Nigeria than going through Congo, Guinea, Liberia and sierra Leone? I am helping you to ask the right questions, a feat that is alien to your hollow brain. 3 Likes |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by Nobody: 3:22pm On Aug 29, 2014 |
Stop misrepresenting me. I never ever said de-population. I do not yet know the real reason for the hoax,but at the moment itis looking like the hoax is to panic us into taking dangerous vaccines and drugs that we do not even need. Mark my words Ebola vaccines and drugs will be coming your way soon. Do not take any vaccines for Ebola you would be endangering your life. The white man whips you into a panic and profits from selling you dangerous vaccines that may kill you. jpphilips: |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by jpphilips(m): 4:11pm On Aug 29, 2014 |
GenBuhari: Stop misrepresenting me. I never ever said de-population. I do not yet know the real reason for the hoax,but at the moment itis looking like the hoax is to panic us into taking dangerous vaccines and drugs that we do not even need. And this opinion is based on  That is what happens to people with hollow brains, it doesn't give their opinion a base, you see? 1 Like |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by mojeer678: 11:24pm On Aug 29, 2014 |
jpphilips: Sir, there's no need for the ad hominem attacks, pejoratives and insults on this thread. You can make your point politely without casting the unnecessary abuses. Mind you, the original thread was started by GenBuhari and he was on point that there's something fishy the way the whole Ebola scare was being hyped. I did a little research into this and came up with logical write-ups that have been made by credible writers. Now, ebola is real but what we are being confronted with now is a sexed-up strain. If you disagree and you feel you have anything worthwhile to say, that can be done without using gutter languages or descending into the sewer. Whatever point you would have made have unfortunately been tarred by the uncouth manner by which you engaged upon others on this thread. You are to be pitied really as your ignorance of the issues is glaring. We should let facts face facts and a good idea/argument would inevitably give way to a better one. I'm sorry, but you aren't getting any further response from me. |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by jpphilips(m): 2:37pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
mojeer678: Let me be clear, Gen.Buhari has proved beyond reasonable doubt that he is a m0r0n of exponential proportion, while trying so hard not to insult his person, It is my civic responsibility to bring that reality to his notice, not only for him to get some education, but to dispel any form of opinion that may fall out from his misconceptions. The situation we have in portharcourt is the height of ignorance most likely fueled by baseless publications peddled by Gen. Buhari who is too stvp!d to realize the damage he is doing, Advising Ebola patients to refuse drugs was the same misconception that ranked Nigeria as the worst polio plagued country 4yrs ago. Make no mistakes, your new found alliance with Gen.Buhari will not only reduce you to troll but a junkie who is due for a cage, be warned!! 2 Likes |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by jpphilips(m): 2:40pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
mojeer678: Let me be clear, Gen.Buhari has proved beyond reasonable doubt that he is a m0r0n of exponential proportion, while trying so hard not to insult his person, It is my civic responsibility to bring that reality to his notice, not only for him to get some education, but to dispel any form of opinion that may fall out from his misconceptions. The situation we have in portharcourt is the height of ignorance most likely fueled by baseless publications peddled by Gen. Buhari who is too stvp!d to realize the damage he is doing, advising Ebola patients to refuse drugs was the same misconception that ranked Nigeria as the worst polio plagued country 4yrs ago. Make no mistakes, your new found alliance with Gen.Buhari will not only reduce you to troll but a junkie who is due for a cage, be warned!! |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by Liekiller(f): 5:02pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
Annual number of severe cases: 3-5 million. And you know why that it? Because the death rate with influenza is typically very low. In the flu pandemic 2009 around 0,03% as opposed to 50-90% in ebola. So if 1000 people contract the flu, on average less than 1 will die (mostly the elderly who are already very weakened). In ebola 500-900 will die. The spanish flu pandemic in 1918 was a more aggressive subtype with a 2% death rate. It killed up to 50 million people worldwide. Do your math what would happen if hundreds of millions were infected with ebola. You simply can't compare these. Ebola is much less contagious than influenza, but it kills much more of those infected. It is certainly NOT hysterical propaganda if ebola is taken very seriously. It's worrying that all the conspiracy freaks are promoting just that. And I'm starting to wonder what THEIR agenda actually is. Are they even aware of the potential result of THEIR propaganda?? 1 Like |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by mojeer678: 9:46pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
GenBuhari: Stop misrepresenting me. I never ever said de-population. I do not yet know the real reason for the hoax,but at the moment itis looking like the hoax is to panic us into taking dangerous vaccines and drugs that we do not even need. There is no point in arguing with someone who lacks the rudimentary of civility and who will not even appreciate the truth if it's shoved right in front of his nose! You know my position on the Ebola conspiracy: I just hit a goldmine of information as to the purpose behind the 'emergence' of viruses in the 21st century - http://www.blackherbals.com/Emerging_Viruses-Aids_&_Ebola.pdf (It's only 127 pages) Maybe it'll make you also temper down on your denying the existence of the bio-weapon. That's what making folks crazy |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by jpphilips(m): 6:27pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
mojeer678: You sincerely believe I have time for a nincompoop like Gen.buhari? You suggest I should be civil to a goat who is running loose on every thread fueling the spread of this deadly virus? you over rate your usefulness |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by mojeer678: 12:05am On Sep 07, 2014 |
jpphilips: The point GenBhuari is making and which you are failing to get, is that the ebola outbreak, which if real, is definitely man made. I fully support this theory too. Except there are some other issues between you and GenBuhari which I'm not privy to, I think you should cut the insults and abuses  |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by Liekiller(f): 1:21am On Sep 07, 2014 |
mojeer678: Please present the evidence that makes you support this (ridiculous) theory? |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by mojeer678: 1:35am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Liekiller: Ridiculous to you? That snipe shows limited intelligence on your part. Already dismissing the evidence before you get to know the facts  you need to read far and wide, bro!The findings from a just-completed gene analysis of the ebola virus strain by an international team of microbiologists and medical doctors. Their conclusion is that the RNA structure of the ebola virus raging through West Africa is a direct derivative from the Gabon-Congo outbreaks in 2002 and 2003. The lineage provides important clues as to how Zaire ebola (ZEBOV-Gabon/Congo) was transferred to West Africa over a distance of 4,000 kilometers and a lapse of 10 years without being detected along the way. Zaire ebola is neither native to West Africa nor could it have arrived via any natural or accidental means without triggering intermediate outbreaks. This is the source, http://www.rense.com/general96/eboutofgabo.html (if you can actually, really read it though, there are no pictures embedded )And this link is why I tend to support GenBuhari that the hype by the western media can be seen to be a hoax: http://nodisinfo.com/absolute-proof-use-crisis-actors-ebola-hoax/ 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by Liekiller(f): 1:55am On Sep 07, 2014 |
mojeer678: Don't worry yourself about how much I have read. I hold a PhD in biology and I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to these things. That's no reliable source. It's a conspiracy theory website. The abstract of the original paper that is being MISquoted in your "source" is here http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2014/08/27/science.1259657 and the results are summarized in a more public-friendly way here http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6200/989.full.pdf If you read these you will see that your "source" is distorting the results massively so that they fit into a preconceived opinion. |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by mojeer678: 2:28am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Liekiller: It's now that I just realised that you're no longer jjphilips but now liekiller. Well, that's your own cup of tea. Your claim to 'hold a PhD in biology' is just that, a claim. GEJ also holds a PhD in Zoology. Hope you can understand that analogy. Dismissively stating that a source is a conspiracy theory website finally persuades me that you are not worth debating with. Why? The extreme irrationality of those who attack “conspiracy theories” has been ably exposed by Communications professors Ginna Husting and Martin Orr of Boise State University. In a 2007 peer-reviewed article entitled “Dangerous Machinery: ‘Conspiracy Theorist’ as a Transpersonal Strategy of Exclusion,” they wrote: “If I call you a conspiracy theorist, it matters little whether you have actually claimed that a conspiracy exists or whether you have simply raised an issue that I would rather avoid… By labeling you, I strategically exclude you from the sphere where public speech, debate, and conflict occur.” So you see, you have been so blinded and indoctrinated, a.k.a. brainwashed that no meaningful reason could be had from you, even if the evidence is staring you in the face. So, get on with the programme and take your daily dosage from the more public-friendly sources (dumbed down) for the sheeple. smh |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by Liekiller(f): 2:37am On Sep 07, 2014 |
mojeer678: Read the original paper |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by jpphilips(m): 3:39am On Sep 07, 2014 |
mojeer678: Gen.Buhari has no point!! now, will you excuse my post? |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by jpphilips(m): 3:51am On Sep 07, 2014 |
mojeer678: Ya ya aya, that is what happens to you when you read Gen. buhari's post, you see your life? Get a life bro!! all these charge and bail cosmetics colleges, graduating varying degrees of egg heads, after your research, you actually posted this crap 4,000 kilometers and a lapse of 10 years without being detected along the way. Zaire ebola is neither native to West Africa nor could it have arrived via any natural or accidental means without triggering intermediate outbreaks. now, if i call you a goat like I always do, you will feel insulted right? guess what? my goat can do a better research. please where in Nigeria do you reside with Buhari? there is something fundamentally wrong with the both of you, it is either, you guys started the polio rumor or you dumb skulls are planning the next phase of salt and water. How miserable you sound spilling such heightened ignorance in public, reduces your skull to a bean, mot0or park touts!! spits!! |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by jpphilips(m): 3:57am On Sep 07, 2014 |
Liekiller: showing paper to a dumbo who probably cannot afford electricity to read it? quit wasting your time, just go through the Buhari m0r0n's posts and you will have a good laugh. stark village men that knows nothing about choosing sources to support their opinion on the internet, believe me those guys sound like those guys who sell meat along Ipaja road. |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by Liekiller(f): 4:52am On Sep 07, 2014 |
jpphilips: you are so right. But what else can one do. It at least needs to be pointed out to them. |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by mojeer678: 8:23pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
jpphilips: Lol!!! Please make me laugh harder. See this half-bred mo.ro.n hiding behind another sock puppet handle trying to provoke me? And here I thought you might be a little brave. Sad. Really sad. Guess what? I find real humor in all of your ridiculous rantings. If your beef is with GenBuhari, you'd better go look for him b4 I tear you to shreds. |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by mojeer678: 1:15am On Sep 10, 2014 |
jpphilips: New Ebola vaccine will be worthless With 368 mutations already found, there will be no vaccine that will work. Any pushing of an ebola vaccine will be for something other than providing immunity for Ebola, and for anyone who is aware of the recent CDC bust of vaccine links to autism, that "other" is not likely to be good. It may not even be Ebola at all, and is likely to instead be some sort of engineered hybrid. Prior to this outbreak, Ebola had a very high genetic stability and remained unchanged through multiple outbreaks. In fact, Ebola has been so stable that it was considered remarkable for this. Why then, with this outbreak, are there so many mutations of this new type, when in past outbreaks NO mutations have been noted at all? Additionally, this new outbreak has none of the characteristics of previous outbreaks. There is something missing in this Ebola outbreak, and it is the bloody eyes and ears, and bleeding through the skin. This time all the bleeding is internal and nothing shows outwardly. All the bloody blistered skin photos on the web are from previous outbreaks, with this particular strain people look outwardly normal up until death and die from internal bleeding, vomiting up blood and having massive stools of black goo from internal bleeding. In this way, the new Ebola is mimicking Parvo in dogs, and I would at least tenuously bet that traditional Ebola has been merged in a lab with a different virus that is known for causing only internal bleeding, possibly parvo. 368 mutations in a previously stable virus screams BIO LAB This is where things may go amiss. Previously, Ebola was a stable virus that could have had a predictable cure. The current strain is mutating so rapidly that if all the recorded cases were added up and divided by the number of mutations, each mutated strain would have only infected an average of 20 people. That is a phenomenal mutation rate, which will render any vaccine attempt useless. And how could it have happened other than willful intent? The answer is obvious - a lab created this new strain, that lab did not have endless people to kill to prove their virus stable and they just let it go in live tests, out in the wild. And because it was not stable, they now have a mutating monster on the loose. That is the best explanation there could possibly be for why Ebola, which has remained stable as far back as records go, suddenly became a chameleon. This new bug is an unstable bioweapon, possibly more unstable than its creators intended. Beware of history rewrites, which will provide plausible deniability for whoever did this. Watch out for any news saying how Ebola mutates continuously without mentioning that prior to this outbreak Ebola was VERY STABLE, and question strongly WHY this new strain is so different from past strains, from outward symptoms, to incubation times, to mutation rates, it is all far too different for this to have happened naturally in a formerly stable virus. Someone did this and the question WHO DID THIS should be kept front and center until we get the answer. We know an American biowarfare firm was in this area "testing Ebola detection kits", I suggest people start with that. There are very few pictures of people infected with this new strain, and none show the normal bleeding. Why? Take a look at a google image search with all photos dated a year or more old, and compare them to a google image search of pictures dated to within the time frame of THIS OUTBREAK AND NOTICE THAT EVERYTHING OUT THERE FOR THIS OUTBREAK THAT IS RECOGNIZABLE AS EBOLA IS JUST A REPEAT OF OLD EBOLA PICTURES with anything new just showing people without any blisters. Almost all of what we are seeing is body bags which show NOTHING, with all other pictures showing none of the classic symptoms. The picture to the left is a prime example, this man who reportedly is an Ebola victim is showing NOTHING that would indicate he ever had Ebola at all. So why is this so different? People in Africa could certainly publish pictures to the web, why then is all we are seeing is pictures of something that is obviously not normal ebola? Pictures dated to before this outbreak clearly show what ebola looks like, I challenge you to find any photo at all from this new outbreak that looks even remotely similar to traditional ebola. The symptoms say it all: Here are the symptoms from the current strain, •Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F) •Severe headache •Muscle pain •Weakness •Diarrhea •Vomiting •Abdominal (stomach) pain •Lack of appetite In other words, the current symptoms mimic the flu (except for the noted internal bleeding this outbreak has). Now for the classic ebola symptoms: "After 3-4 days of non-specific symptoms and signs, patients typically experienced progressively severe sore throat, developed a maculopapular rash, had intractable abdominal pain, and began to bleed from multiple sites, principally the gastrointestinal tract. " And the pictures of this current outbreak prove the classic ebola is not what we are dealing with this time around. The biggest thing in common is gastrointestinal bleeding. Recovery times also indicate this new ebola is more like a souped up flu than ebola. Usually, with ebola, recovery takes months and sometimes never happens completely because the liver, kidneys and other organs including the brain get damaged. Yet we see in the media pictures of ebola "survivors" that are up and about only two weeks after having it. This is not possible with real ebola, this outbreak really is more like a really bad flu than anything else. The bottom line is that the symptoms are not consistent with classic ebola. Recovery times are too fast, and the current CDC list of symptoms does not match the old list except when the CDC combines the new list with the old list to muddy the water. Something is amiss with this, and the new vaccine can only be bogus with so many mutated variants. There is no way any vaccine can be real, we are dealing with a bioweapon this time around which makes that impossible, avoid any "vaccine" like you would the disease itself. Source: http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/ebolanotnormal.html |
| Re: Ebola: A Global Pandemic Or Another False Alarm? by Liekiller(f): 7:33am On Sep 10, 2014 |
mojeer678: Your source: another american conspiracy website. You rely on a highly biased "freelance journalist" for medical and biological facts? Sorry, but that says it all. Why on earth don't you get information from virologists before copy-pasting such nonsense? They actually know what viruses do and don't do. This writer obviously doesn't. |
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