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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by bilms(m): 1:31am On Aug 12, 2014
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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by maclatunji: 10:45am On Aug 12, 2014
The OP is making simplistic presentations. The problem in the North is that there has almost always been an army of uneducated people ostracised from the mainstream of society be they the slaves in the pre-colonial kingdoms or the poor people after the Jihad of Sheikh Usman Dan Fodio which brought-in the current traditional institutions in the North. His successors became elites and forgot all about the need to systematically eradicate poverty especially with the institution and administration of Zakat which is vital in Islam.

This means that there is an army of unenlightened youths that can be manipulated for selfish reasons since they do not understand the proper application of their knowledge of Islam.

Pound for pound, there is more Islamic knowledge per capita in the North than the South. What the south has is enlightenment which needs to be properly channeled with more Islamic knowledge. Once we get the balance right, Nigeria will really begin to develop in astronomical terms because the Muslim population will really drive its growth and the non-Muslims would be partakers in this as well because it is the way the country is structured in terms of demographics.

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 12:52pm On Aug 12, 2014
maclatunji: The OP is making simplistic presentations. The problem in the North is that there has almost always been an army of uneducated people ostracised from the mainstream of society be they the slaves in the pre-colonial kingdoms or the poor people after the Jihad of Sheikh Usman Dan Fodio which brought-in the current traditional institutions in the North. His successors became elites and forgot all about the need to systematically eradicate poverty especially with the institution and administration of Zakat which is vital in Islam.

This means that there is an army of unenlightened youths that can be manipulated for selfish reasons since they do not understand the proper application of their knowledge of Islam.

Pound for pound, there is more Islamic knowledge per capita in the North than the South. What the south has is enlightenment which needs to be properly channeled with more Islamic knowledge. Once we get the balance right, Nigeria will really begin to develop in astronomical terms because the Muslim population will really drive its growth and the non-Muslims would be partakers in this as well because it is the way the country is structured in terms of demographics.



The real problem is that there is less or no diversity in the North.

The southern (not necessarily Yoruba) muslims live with christians and traditionalists. That diversity allows them to see beyond religion and experience a variety of knowledge

There are illiterates in the north. There are illiterates in the south
There is poverty in the north. There is poverty in the south
There is corruption in the north. There is corruption in the south.


The simple difference between the north and south is diversity/secularism. Nothing more. That difference is the reason why muslims in the north are stunted compared to those in the south.

When you are the majority with the perfect religion, why bother with other knowledge? That encourages overconfidence and laziness. The muslims in the north are used to being the majority and not really open to other cultures/philosophies/religion.



To even prove my theory above, this diversity/secularism theory can be extrapolated to the international community; muslims in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar are more aggressive compared to those in Turkey, UK, etc. Turkey is 96% muslim but very secular


Where there is an equality of religion and diversity of thought, there is progress. Simle and short

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by maclatunji: 1:07pm On Aug 12, 2014
TheBigUrban2:



The real problem is that there is less or no diversity in the North.

The southern (not necessarily Yoruba) muslims live with christians and traditionalists. That diversity allows them to see beyond religion and experience a variety of knowledge

There are illiterates in the north. There are illiterates in the south
There is poverty in the north. There is poverty in the south
There is corruption in the north. There is corruption in the south.


The simple difference between the north and south is diversity/secularism. Nothing more. That difference is the reason why muslims in the north are stunted compared to those in the south.

When you are the majority with the perfect religion, why bother with other knowledge? That encourages overconfidence and laziness. The muslims in the north are used to being the majority and not really open to other cultures/philosophies/religion.



To even prove my theory above, this diversity/secularism theory can be extrapolated to the international community; muslims in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar are more aggressive compared to those in Turkey, UK, etc. Turkey is 96% muslim but very secular


Where there is an equality of religion and diversity of thought, there is progress. Simle and short

Obviously you have never been to the North.

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 1:08pm On Aug 12, 2014
maclatunji:

Obviously you have never been to the North.


It is a sin to lie in islam.

I have been to the north. Please, if you couldnt refute my points, then you could have kept quiet

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by maclatunji: 1:30pm On Aug 12, 2014
TheBigUrban2:


It is a sin to lie in islam.

I have been to the north. Please, if you couldnt refute my points, then you could have kept quiet

And what tribe was the singular one that ensures that there is "no diversity" there when you were there?

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 1:33pm On Aug 12, 2014
maclatunji:

And what tribe was the singular one that ensures that there is "no diversity" there when you were there.


Diversity doesnt only mean "tribe"

There is diversity of religion, diversity of thought, diversity of culture. Note that culture doesnt always mean "tribe". There is "New York Culture" which most people interpret as a liberal-capitalist view on life, despite new york being full of Jews, whites, latinos and blacks
Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 1:36pm On Aug 12, 2014
TheBigUrban2:
Diversity doesnt only mean "tribe"
There is diversity of religion, diversity of thought, diversity of culture. Note that culture doesnt always mean "tribe". There is "New York Culture" which most people interpret as a liberal-capitalist view on life, despite new york being full of Jews, whites, latinos and blacks

Furthermore, the sharia law in the north and the conservative culture there militates against the progress of diversity of thought and religion.
Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by bilms(m): 2:55pm On Aug 12, 2014
There is more diversity in the north, though, more security in the south. North is more diverse in tribe and culture. Even in term of religion, there is still adequate diversity. The issue is not about diversity, but enlightment.

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by BetaThings: 3:11pm On Aug 12, 2014
PAGAN9JA: fvck i-slam/


Paganism came to Nigeria since the Dinosaur Age.

At least you have been doing human ritual for ages
Soka forest, Okija shrine etc are your legacies

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 3:14pm On Aug 12, 2014
bilms: There is more diversity in the north, though, more security in the south. North is more diverse in tribe and culture. Even in term of religion, there is still adequate diversity. The issue is not about diversity, but enlightment.


Stop the lies. Just stop.

Why should there be less security in the north? The only military training outpost in Nigeria is in the north.

The problem is that there is more violence in the north.



Diversity of religion/thought/culture is the issue we are talking about. So you nonsense about tribal diversity or adequate diversity is nonsense.


There is corruption and poverty in the north and the south, so why is the education level worse in the north? Education is not the simple answer, it is a compound answer that has a simpler cause- rejection of education due to religious ignorance/arrogance.


Such arrogance/ignorance is the defining factor that makes the south more educated.


Go to secondary schools in the north and you will find secondary school students (ss2) already married. Religious/cultural duties take precedence over education
Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by maclatunji: 3:21pm On Aug 12, 2014
TheBigUrban2:


Diversity doesnt only mean "tribe"

There is diversity of religion, diversity of thought, diversity of culture. Note that culture doesnt always mean "tribe". There is "New York Culture" which most people interpret as a liberal-capitalist view on life, despite new york being full of Jews, whites, latinos and blacks

What part of the North did you find only Muslims?

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by maclatunji: 3:23pm On Aug 12, 2014
bilms: There is more diversity in the north, though, more security in the south. North is more diverse in tribe and culture. Even in term of religion, there is still adequate diversity. The issue is not about diversity, but enlightment.

Do not mind the dubious fellow.

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by BetaThings: 3:27pm On Aug 12, 2014
Omexonomy: The author must be nothing but a sh.it head.
He is trying to disassociate the Yoruba muslims from the islamic violence while also trying to shift the blame of islamic idiocy provocative attack and violence on xtian who are more peacefull and are always preaching peace.
Actually the peace in the SW is due to the Muslims not due to the Christians
Christians cane Msulim students who use the Hijab in public schools
Does the Hijab cause inconvenience to anyone? No
But the fact that a Muslim can have the effrontery to practise his/her religion openly in a land they assume they have conquered is a source of annoyance to Christians

Now consider the fact that the journey from Ibadan to Lagos can take 3 hours or more because of a church service is a real inconvenience
But Muslims are not caning anybody for that or even talking about - Can you imagine the noise were the muslims causing so much hassles to people
Christians used ti complain that the call to prayer disturbed them. Now they have kept quiet because their night house fellowship can start at 12midnight and end 4am
when Nasfat's activities along the expressway caused some inconvenience - they apologised
That is the difference between proper gentleman and the propagandist breed

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 3:29pm On Aug 12, 2014
maclatunji:

What part of the North did you find only Muslims?


Can you stop lying? I never said that
Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 3:37pm On Aug 12, 2014
BetaThings:
Actually the peace in the SW is due to the Muslims not due to the Christians
Christians cane Msulim students who use the Hijab in public schools
Does the Hijab cause inconvenience to anyone? No
But the fact that a Muslim can have the effrontery to practise his/her religion openly in a land they assume they have conquered is a source of annoyance to Christians

Now consider the fact that the journey from Ibadan to Lagos can take 3 hours or more because of a church service is a real inconvenience
But Muslims are not caning anybody for that or even talking about - Can you imagine the noise were the muslims causing so much hassles to people
Christians used ti complain that the call to prayer disturbed them. Now they have kept quiet because their night house fellowship can start at 12midnight and end 4am
when Nasfat's activities along the expressway caused some inconvenience - they apologised
That is the difference between proper gentleman and the propagandist breed


MVS.....Muslim Victimisation Syndrome......false claims of persecution.


Facts
1) I went to 3 different secondary schools in the south, none of them punished muslims for wearing the hijab. That case is not widespread or common

2) Christians and atheists here on nairaland have complained about the noise from churches with loudspeakers in their neighbourhood. sources for this can be provided if you doubt


3) Christians and atheist have both complained about the Lagos Ibadan expressway and Redeemed camp here on nairaland.



Stop claiming false persecutions!!!

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by Omexonomy: 3:40pm On Aug 12, 2014
Xtian cane the muslim who wore hijab bla bla bla. Assuming we allow every religeon to wore their regalia to a public school i.e eriwoya obgoni xtian ifa egungun etc do u think such place will be convinenet for learnin? If u have any bad belle to the teacher that cain the student why not take up ur case with the governor.
BetaThings:
Actually the peace in the SW is due to the Muslims not due to the Christians
Christians cane Msulim students who use the Hijab in public schools
Does the Hijab cause inconvenience to anyone? No
But the fact that a Muslim can have the effrontery to practise his/her religion openly in a land they assume they have conquered is a source of annoyance to Christians

Now consider the fact that the journey from Ibadan to Lagos can take 3 hours or more because of a church service is a real inconvenience
But Muslims are not caning anybody for that or even talking about - Can you imagine the noise were the muslims causing so much hassles to people
Christians used ti complain that the call to prayer disturbed them. Now they have kept quiet because their night house fellowship can start at 12midnight and end 4am
when Nasfat's activities along the expressway caused some inconvenience - they apologised
That is the difference between proper gentleman and the propagandist breed
Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by vedaxcool(m): 3:53pm On Aug 12, 2014
BetaThings:
At least you have been doing human ritual for ages
Soka forest, Okija shrine etc are your legacies

grin grin grin
Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by vedaxcool(m): 3:54pm On Aug 12, 2014
maclatunji:

What part of the North did you find only Muslims?

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by lanrexlan(m): 6:00pm On Aug 12, 2014
Omexonomy: The author must be nothing but a sh.it head.
He is trying to disassociate the Yoruba muslims from the islamic violence while also trying to shift the blame of islamic idiocy provocative attack and violence on xtian who are more peacefull and are always preaching peace.
Peace Indeed!!! Christians are green snakes in a green grass.They called themselves 'sheep' who has no horns to fight but mouths to lie and incite hatred against muslims.

Christians are guilty of crimes against muslims in the South.These are just few of such incidents.
In year 2000,the pastor of the Christ Apostolic Church, Agbala Atorise in Koloko demonstrated an indescribable pathological hatred for Islam by calling his pet-goat, 'Ganiyu'-the name of a Muslim neighbour. But he was made to apologize and document it accordingly when members of NACOMYO stormed the Church on one Sunday while the pastor himself was presiding.

In the first week of Ramadan,December 2, 2001,one Pastor Dada of Cherubim and Seraphim Church went into Anu- Oluwapo Central mosque, opposite his church at Koloko area Ibadan,seized the microphone from the Imam who was revealing the facts about Prophet Isa (true ‘Jesus’) according to Qur'anic view and the pastor smashed the microphone. When members of NACOMYO in the area besieged his church,he was arrested and detained for three weeks at the police headquarters in Iyaganku, Ibadan.

Brother Abdul Hakeem and Jamiu were axed and stabbed,while four (4) others – all members of MSSN University of Ibadan were beaten mercilessly on Thursday 30th November year 2000 by some Christians students of Emmanuel College of Theology, Samonda Ibadan,for conducting assembly for Muslims pupils of Emmanuel primary school as approved by the state government.


These are just few examples of the 'Peaceful Incidents' that the christians in the South had displayed.Although,some christians are peace-loving but to say a larger part of them is peace-loving is nothing but a fallacy.

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by lanrexlan(m): 6:00pm On Aug 12, 2014
Omexonomy: Xtian cane the muslim who wore hijab bla bla bla. Assuming we allow every religeon to wore their regalia to a public school i.e eriwoya obgoni xtian ifa egungun etc do u think such place will be convinenet for learnin? If u have any bad belle to the teacher that cain the student why not take up ur case with the governor.
Oops,does egungun wear their attire every time? I remembered when we were young,you will see the person underneath the Egungun regalia 'eku' walking freely on the street without it when there is no Egungun festival.Egungun wear their regalia during their festival only,have you ever seen or encounter a young child in the Egungun family wearing the regalia when there's no Egungun festival or even during the festival?

Hijab is what defines a muslim woman,it's an identity and not a so called regalia for some ceremonious events or annual events.And I doubt if a christian woman has what really defines her.

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by lanrexlan(m): 6:22pm On Aug 12, 2014
TheBigUrban2:


MVS.....Muslim Victimisation Syndrome......false claims of persecution.


Facts
1) I went to 3 different secondary schools in the south, none of them punished muslims for wearing the hijab. That case is not widespread or common

2) Christians and atheists here on nairaland have complained about the noise from churches with loudspeakers in their neighbourhood. sources for this can be provided if you doubt


3)Christians and atheist have both complained about the Lagos Ibadan expressway and Redeemed camp here on nairaland.



Stop claiming false persecutions!!!


As an hatetheist whose foundation is based on hatred,you choose what you want to read or hear from.You went to 3 different schools in the South and that's enough for a case sample?

Concerning the Issue of Hijab,christians have displayed their hatred for it.Not only in secondary schools but even in work places.
I remembered vividly that my own very sister was denied a job just because she wore an Hijab.
How many people have christian headed organizations denied jobs just because of the Hijab? Not 1 nor 2 I personally know of.
These are even other examples of christians hatred towards the Hijab.

In the last concluded Post Utme(i.e. 2014) of The University Of Ibadan,to be considered for admission one of the requirements reads: “…The photographs must be white background showing both ears,without glasses,cap or headgear.''
Who doesn't know it's an indirect hatred for the Hijab? They dropped the word ‘hijab’ so as not to look like direct attack and chose ‘headgear’ as blanket cover!
It is a way to debar them from gaining legitimate and well deserved admission because of their belief.Are they interested in the face or the ears?

In July 2002,the Provost of Adeyemi College of Education, Ondo State expelled two Muslim female students with another Muslim brother and a lady teacher who supported the ladies in their insistence to be using veil on the campus. The continued resistance by the school authorities not to recall them back led to the peaceful protest by the MSSN, Ondo State Area Unit,on Friday, October 11th 2002 on the school premises. (T).

In January 2003,the Principal of St. Anne’s Grammar School,Molete,Ibadan saw one of the Muslim students of the school around 5:00pm going for an Islamic programme in the school uniform with hijab to match.The principal parked his car,removed the hijab from the girl, and seized her bag of books.
The following day,he summoned the girl to the assembly,molested her and beat her for using Hijab!

Miss Shaidat was denied the access and lost her right to write the G.C.E exam Geography paper on Wednesday 30th September 1998, when a Christian woman invigilator and her colleagues ordered the Muslim girl to remove her hijab before entering the classroom for the exam at the school for the handicap, Ijokodo, Ibadan.

These are just few,but to an hatetheist it will never widespread to him.

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by Omexonomy: 7:34pm On Aug 12, 2014
lanrexlan: Oops,does egungun wear their attire every time? I remembered when we were young,you will see the person underneath the Egungun regalia 'eku' walking freely on the street without it when there is no Egungun festival.Egungun wear their regalia during their festival only,have you ever seen or encounter a young child in the Egungun family wearing the regalia when there's no Egungun festival or even during the festival?

Hijab is what defines a muslim woman,it's an identity and not a so called regalia for some ceremonious events or annual events.And I doubt if a christian woman has what really defines her.
instead of using the issue of hijab to insult the sensibilities of other people and their religeon why dont u send ur ward to muslim school so as to avoid bombimg and knifing.
Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by bilms(m): 7:48pm On Aug 12, 2014
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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by lanrexlan(m): 7:52pm On Aug 12, 2014
Omexonomy: instead of using the issue of hijab to insult the sensibilities of other people and their religeon why dont u send ur ward to muslim school so as to avoid bombimg and knifing.
Your reasoning always baffles me!!! How does the Hijab on a muslim lady head affects the lives of christians? I can't fathom.
'Insult'? How? So christians are sensitive to a modest a way of dressing,but insensitive to unclothedness.That's great,your logic is really great!!!
Last time I checked,all those schools were public and government owned schools.Have you ever seen muslims protesting against how christian ladies dress? If christian ladies,let them walk naked,it's none of our business.

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 8:38pm On Aug 12, 2014
lanrexlan: As an hatetheist whose foundation is based on hatred,you choose what you want to read or hear from.You went to 3 different schools in the South and that's enough for a case sample?



I went to the 3 best secondary schools in the south. I also have experience working in the education sector. Please, dont embarrass yourself.
Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 8:39pm On Aug 12, 2014
lanrexlan: As an hatetheist whose foundation is based on hatred,you choose what you want to read or hear from.You went to 3 different schools in the South and that's enough for a case sample?

Concerning the Issue of Hijab,christians have displayed their hatred for it.Not only in secondary schools but even in work places.
I remembered vividly that my own very sister was denied a job just because she wore an Hijab.
How many people have christian headed organizations denied jobs just because of the Hijab? Not 1 nor 2 I personally know of.
These are even other examples of christians hatred towards the Hijab.

In the last concluded Post Utme(i.e. 2014) of The University Of Ibadan,to be considered for admission one of the requirements reads: “…The photographs must be white background showing both ears,without glasses,cap or headgear.''
Who doesn't know it's an indirect hatred for the Hijab? They dropped the word ‘hijab’ so as not to look like direct attack and chose ‘headgear’ as blanket cover!
It is a way to debar them from gaining legitimate and well deserved admission because of their belief.Are they interested in the face or the ears?

In July 2002,the Provost of Adeyemi College of Education, Ondo State expelled two Muslim female students with another Muslim brother and a lady teacher who supported the ladies in their insistence to be using veil on the campus. The continued resistance by the school authorities not to recall them back led to the peaceful protest by the MSSN, Ondo State Area Unit,on Friday, October 11th 2002 on the school premises. (T).

In January 2003,the Principal of St. Anne’s Grammar School,Molete,Ibadan saw one of the Muslim students of the school around 5:00pm going for an Islamic programme in the school uniform with hijab to match.The principal parked his car,removed the hijab from the girl, and seized her bag of books.
The following day,he summoned the girl to the assembly,molested her and beat her for using Hijab!

Miss Shaidat was denied the access and lost her right to write the G.C.E exam Geography paper on Wednesday 30th September 1998, when a Christian woman invigilator and her colleagues ordered the Muslim girl to remove her hijab before entering the classroom for the exam at the school for the handicap, Ijokodo, Ibadan.

These are just few,but to an hatetheist it will never widespread to him.


Please, refrain from calling me "hatetheist". I did not insult you. Later, you will claim that xtians and atheists only come here to insult and troll.
Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 8:45pm On Aug 12, 2014
lanrexlan:
Concerning the Issue of Hijab,christians have displayed their hatred for it.Not only in secondary schools but even in work places.
I remembered vividly that my own very sister was denied a job just because she wore an Hijab.
How many people have christian headed organizations denied jobs just because of the Hijab? Not 1 nor 2 I personally know of.
These are even other examples of christians hatred towards the Hijab.

In the last concluded Post Utme(i.e. 2014) of The University Of Ibadan,to be considered for admission one of the requirements reads: “…The photographs must be white background showing both ears,without glasses,cap or headgear.''
Who doesn't know it's an indirect hatred for the Hijab? They dropped the word ‘hijab’ so as not to look like direct attack and chose ‘headgear’ as blanket cover!
It is a way to debar them from gaining legitimate and well deserved admission because of their belief.Are they interested in the face or the ears?

In July 2002,the Provost of Adeyemi College of Education, Ondo State expelled two Muslim female students with another Muslim brother and a lady teacher who supported the ladies in their insistence to be using veil on the campus. The continued resistance by the school authorities not to recall them back led to the peaceful protest by the MSSN, Ondo State Area Unit,on Friday, October 11th 2002 on the school premises. (T).

In January 2003,the Principal of St. Anne’s Grammar School,Molete,Ibadan saw one of the Muslim students of the school around 5:00pm going for an Islamic programme in the school uniform with hijab to match.The principal parked his car,removed the hijab from the girl, and seized her bag of books.
The following day,he summoned the girl to the assembly,molested her and beat her for using Hijab!

Miss Shaidat was denied the access and lost her right to write the G.C.E exam Geography paper on Wednesday 30th September 1998, when a Christian woman invigilator and her colleagues ordered the Muslim girl to remove her hijab before entering the classroom for the exam at the school for the handicap, Ijokodo, Ibadan.

These are just few,but to an hatetheist it will never widespread to him.



1) We are talking about secondary schools in the south punishing people for wearing hijabs. Which occurred in 2 secondary schools and wasnt widespread. We are not talking about discrimination in the workplace. The original issue was me challenging the false claim that schools in the south normally punish hijabi students


2) It is not discrimination to mandate hijab to be removed for potrait pictures if the pictures are used for security purposes (eg exams/passports). The rules clearly stated headgear because it doesnt want fraudulent people to cover their faces and then use other people to write the exams. Please, ask Tbaba1234 if that is discrimination- he lives in the USA. He will disgrace you on your ignorance. Security photos need your full face. Your own fellow muslim will disagree with you
Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 8:47pm On Aug 12, 2014
Funny how Lanrexlan can complain about christian discrimination when his own fellow muslims in the north do worse.

At least, christians hardly kill for "alleged" blasphemy unlike those section of muslims in the north who kill christians like rams (even before boko haram time)
Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by lanrexlan(m): 9:33pm On Aug 12, 2014
TheBigUrban2:


I went to the 3 best secondary schools in the south. I also have experience working in the education sector. Please, dont embarrass yourself.
Congrats,you can add that to your list of achievements.Embarrass myself? Is south a state? How can 3 schools be the yardstick for judging thousands of schools in the south?


TheBigUrban2: Funny how Lanrexlan can complain about christian discrimination when his own fellow muslims in the north do worse.
At least, christians hardly kill for "alleged" blasphemy unlike those section of muslims in the north who kill christians like rams (even before boko haram time)
Do you know what spring up the issue about 'Peaceful Christians' in the south? I haven't mention North in my post,Oxomenmony says christians are 'peaceful' people and I simply showed him that not all christians are.Have you heard about this?
Miss Comfort Afolayan 20, a student of Kwara state polytechnic, Ilorin was beaten to death in a church by her brothers and some church members at the instance of her parent on Saturday 14th July, 2001 for accepting Islam.Narrated on the popular programme Iriri Aye (Mystery of Life) on Ogun state Broadcasting Corporation at 9:00 pm on 27th July, 2001 and reported by ‘The Monitor’ Newspaper on Saturday 28th July,2001.

TheBigUrban2:
1) We are talking about secondary schools in the south punishing people for wearing hijabs. Which occurred in 2 secondary schools and wasnt widespread. We are not talking about discrimination in the workplace. The original issue was me challenging the false claim that schools in the south normally punish hijabi students
So Miss Shaidat denied her access to write WAEC examination is in University abi? It's only the ones I know of,who knows how many of such happened in other states in south? How many muslims have persecuted christians because of their dressing?
2) It is not discrimination to mandate hijab to be removed for potrait pictures if the pictures are used for security purposes (eg exams/passports). The rules clearly stated headgear because it doesnt want fraudulent people to cover their faces and then use other people to write the exams. Please, ask Tbaba1234 if that is discrimination- he lives in the USA. He will disgrace you on your ignorance. Security photos need your full face. Your own fellow muslim will disagree with you
It's obvious you don't understand what you quoted.Cool down Mr Logicboy.
Did I even mentioned covering of faces in my post? So The University Of Ibadan didn't realise all these years that they have to include no headgear in passports? Is the University Of Ibadan the only school in Nigeria? Tell me how many other universities say no headgear apart from UI?
How can you take passport with covering your face in the first instance? It doesn't make sense. Please read and digest before quoting posts.

TheBigUrban2:
Please, refrain from calling me "hatetheist". I did not insult you. Later, you will claim that xtians and atheists only come here to insult and troll.
Hatetheist isn't an insult,it's just a definition.But I will refrain.

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by usermane(m): 9:44pm On Aug 12, 2014
The root of this issue is a mix of fallacies and extremism on the part of the northern muslims. In fact i opened a thread on a related topic where i exposed some of these extreme and irrational views among the hausas, how they 've illegitimately become norms and how unislamic they are in the spirit of Quran. But the fanatics would rather construe the topic as an attempt to bash hausa muslims than face the criticisms and refutations, thus my thread was deleted.

Yoruba muslims seem more tolerants because they value western education. They don't teach and glorify extremist ideals as the northerners do. The same can't be said of the northerners whose sermons and lessons strongly emphasize evil in democracy, idolatry in national constitution, responsibility of the muslims in forming the Islamic state and the obligation on muslims to cut themselves away from non-muslims or anything that has to do with them.

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Re: Why Islam In Northern Nigeria Is Different From The South by TheBigUrban2: 9:53pm On Aug 12, 2014
lanrexlan: Congrats,you can add that to your list of achievements.Embarrass myself? Is south a state? How can 3 schools be the yardstick for judging thousands of schools in the south?


Do you know what spring up the issue about 'Peaceful Christians' in the south? I haven't mention North in my post,Oxomenmony says christians are 'peaceful' people and I simply showed him that not all christians are.Have you heard about this?
Miss Comfort Afolayan 20, a student of Kwara state polytechnic, Ilorin was beaten to death in a church by her brothers and some church members at the instance of her parent on Saturday 14th July, 2001 for accepting Islam.Narrated on the popular programme Iriri Aye (Mystery of Life) on Ogun state Broadcasting Corporation at 9:00 pm on 27th July, 2001 and reported by ‘The Monitor’ Newspaper on Saturday 28th July,2001.

So Miss Shaidat denied her access to write WAEC examination is in University abi? It's only the ones I know of,who knows how many of such happened in other states in south? How many muslims have persecuted christians because of their dressing?
It's obvious you don't understand what you quoted.Cool down Mr Logicboy.
Did I even mentioned covering of faces in my post? So The University Of Ibadan didn't realise all these years that they have to include no headgear in passports? Is the University Of Ibadan the only school in Nigeria? Tell me how many other universities say no headgear apart from UI?
How can you take passport with covering your face in the first instance? It doesn't make sense. Please read and digest before quoting posts.

Hatetheist isn't an insult,it's just a definition.But I will refrain.



Please, just admit you lost the argument. All this twisting is not helping

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