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Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Malawian(m): 9:21pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
drlawizle:you miss the point entirely. i hope you dont make the same mistakes with you diagnoses? na so people dey die ni. |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Sunshinelady(f): 11:25pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
bushdoc9919:. Tank u. NMA & Johesu shuld work 2geda, gud point. But is NMA willing to work togeda wit Johesu? No! Dey want to work on top of dem. Look at d demands dey made, dey weren't just askin 4 their 'wants', dey were askin to block johesu's own wants...so selfish. Dats y I ask dem since dey feel dey r soo gud @wat dey do to d extent o hamperin oder professions, y aint dey betterin d health status in our country? Insted pple are runnin away to india to get treated |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Sunshinelady(f): 11:34pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
maestroferddi: Doctors are very greedy I must agree. Imagine a pharmacist who spends just less than a year in school than a doctor being relegated to almost nothingness.. Don't wori, everyday is for d thief, but one day is 4d owner of d house. & from d look of thins d owner of d house is alredy @ d gate, tanx to d latest decision of d FG |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by dumodust(m): 11:35pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
bushdoc9919:bushdoc leave this people alone, let them think what they want... when they need the services of a consultant, then they will know... simple |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by DrLuv: 11:44pm On Aug 16, 2014 |
Malawian:what is this one saying.u are just a little bit informed. |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by DrLuv: 12:03am On Aug 17, 2014 |
adorable29: SACK THEM ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!so its true..out of the abundance of the heart,the mouth speaks ...rephrased.."u say what what lies in u".obviously your two kobo is a reflection of how pöör ur thinking faculty is.sack them all sack them all.mtweew 1 Like |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by adorable29(f): 12:12am On Aug 17, 2014 |
DrLuv: This one too na Dr? Come, dem no call native doctors for this matter na? What kinda doctors is Nigeria churning out this days! Chai! God help your people o! |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by DrLuv: 12:18am On Aug 17, 2014 |
dalhat14:do not mind them jor.majority of the spectators are not open minded to know the short and long term implications of these whole saga. |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by DrLuv: 12:31am On Aug 17, 2014 |
lrguru: resident doctors are those semi doctors that their names are written in pencil and there's always an eraser nearby. And lastly, they are the ones that pays the price (sack) for their masters (doctors/NMA) mistakes. Biologically: they are on the verge of extinction. Technically: they are jobless. Politically: they are of no consequence: mathematically: they are equals to zero (undefined)the skull is speaking |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by DrLuv: 1:18am On Aug 17, 2014 |
adorable29:ode...doctor or not..what is exactly wrong with the post?[url] adorable29:ode...doctor or not..what is exactly wrong with the post?[/url] adorable29:ode...doctor or not..what is exactly wrong with the post? |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Exodus2k(m): 2:16am On Aug 17, 2014 |
phantom: You are saying rubbish iam a health personnel and a pharmacist for that, people like you worship doctors as your God but i dont give a damn whom you are, Doctors have abuse strike option if you want kill yourself or hug transformer i rest my case metcccccccccchw |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by DBestDoc(f): 8:03am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Malawian: Mr. Perfect, your post makes no sense without an r @ the bolded. You just corrected the guy up there because he added a d to mature, he accepted the correction and moved on but you continued your rambling 'cause your stup.idity knows no bound.(no insult intended though) I wish you goodluck in your ignorance. Don't modify that post |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Nobody: 8:34am On Aug 17, 2014 |
armadeo: which Nigerian doctor can treat malaria...mtcheww. Nigerian doctors olodo since 30bc. una good na him every body dey rush go India... |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Nobody: 12:47pm On Aug 17, 2014 |
DrLuv:bros kai, u are very wicked and infact ruthless, even with all my definition and breakdown, u still said it was my skull talkin, not even my brain.....that was 20hit combo, chai.... If really u are a doctor and a funny one at that I am sure there is no amusement park in the hospital, and the only place u can be fully utilized optimally is the illegal abortion department |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by DrLuv: 7:10pm On Aug 17, 2014 |
lrguru: bros kai, u are very wicked and infact ruthless, even with all my definition and breakdown, u still said it was my skull talkin, not even my brain.....that was 20hit combo, chai.... If really u are a doctor and a funny one at that I am sure there is no amusement park in the hospital, and the only place u can be fully utilized optimally is the illegal abortion departmentLOL.thats a good repay bro.but seriously residents are registered doctors(full option)not semi doctors,they work and are being päid like the ordinary medical officers but also in training to be specialists in their chosen medical fields at same time,like an apprentice being trained to handle honda vehicles will likely be less skillful in handling audi vehicles |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Nobody: 8:01pm On Aug 17, 2014 |
DrLuv:yea thanks for the clarification, but I know already |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by brushparke(m): 9:14pm On Aug 17, 2014 |
laplace12:"Unemployed Doctor" is an oxymoron. Have you ever heard of it? |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by brushparke(m): 9:19pm On Aug 17, 2014 |
DrLuv:Why are you wasting your energy talking to ignorant people and a deluded pharmacist? |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Amaizu(m): 10:45pm On Aug 17, 2014 |
In all this while,i have heard of the 24 point demand without knowing what it was all about.It took the visit of an old family friend on saturday for me to go and dig up the NMA demands.I was to say the least shocked.Where were the older members of NMA when those demands where raised.As Lawyers we know when we are stuck with a bad case.I think NARD,NMA and others have a bad case.This time they, went too far but i pray that Government restores the residency programme,return the teaching hospitals to the pre-Ransome-Kuti and IBB era and commit more funds to the health sector. |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by thaqib(m): 6:17am On Aug 18, 2014 |
All the johesuites and their allies are inconsequential in this strike. Whether they like it or not, the sacked doctors would be recalled. The poor man is @ the receiving end, not GEJ or the doctors It is a foolish decision by a clueless leader |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Samgreguc(m): 9:28am On Aug 18, 2014 |
dumodust:From wot he said, the hospital will still function well if the consultants are been charged to do their work but, the problem is that the residency training produces the consultant and deleting it entirely means no future Nigerian made coNsultant....... BTW, d programme was only suspended. |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Nobody: 11:22am On Aug 18, 2014 |
Misplaced priorities. Just think about these: #255million($1.6million) to purchase only TWO bullet proof cars. Missing 50 billion DOLLARS (eventually scaled down to 20 billion then later to 10 billion dollars), and 10 billion naira to maintain private jets. But government would rather sack doctors instead of releasing 13 billion naira to pay them. |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by dumodust(m): 12:52pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
Samgreguc: I had stopped commenting here but i decided to reply because i saw reason in your post. however, the consultants in my workplace carry out their duties well but they depend on residents with the required training who understand them,advance with the times and can increase the number of patients seen and surgical cases done per day. Worldwide, the concept of a medical officer without residency training is fast going into extinction in other to improve specialization and care, not the jack of all trades quackery of my father's era due to very few doctors and pressures to perform. I must also emphasize that a locum medical officer is under no obligation to work beyond his allocated time like most residents do and do not show the same commitment. they do not have the skills and may simply not obey the orders of the consultant leading to chaos.When taking up a locum, it is a time based economic decision that does not lead to better healthcare and increased output. they however help in filling up positions during scarcity of staff with basic skills at the level of the experienced intern or short-term specialist skill if their is sudden scarcity. we were complaining that we had long operation lists in hospitals, its going to get worse. it only makes administrative life easier for a negligent employer who will wash his hands off all responsibilities and jet off to germany for liposuction of the stolen money that has accumulated in their pot belly Suspending a residency that took painful long years to establish long before even 'Goodluck' was born, that required sending our forefathers to train and import the culture of the royal colleges into Nigeria is mad and sickening. The Nigerian medical colleges have progressed because of the doggedness and perseverance of the trainers and trainees who starve, scrap and borrow to sponsor themselves to travel to where they can learn some procedures and skills due to lack of necessary equipment locally which limits exposure. What exactly do they plan to change .?the change required is in infrastructure, equipment, funding so that those procedures people run to other countries for can be performed here. is that so hard to understand? But what does your president do? The toys with tradition he did not establish, foolishly trying to kill off the engine of medical training in nigeria including med students. Right back to the stone age... only made in nigeria brain drain is coming, even if it is too late for us to get out, i advice younger ones like junior residents and interns to explore their options because most came into medicine because they dreamt of being neuro-surgeons etc one day, we may even applaud when cbn and the judiciary are scrapped, because they are asking for too much...idi amin-like response to issues...lol... lesson to those laughing, no one is safe... 6 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by dalhat14(m): 2:53pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
meanwhile, situation report from across the nation tells of all cadre of doctors from house officers to medical officers to consultants defying Onyebuchi and Jonathans order to return to work, Shame on them!!! Even a stronger NMA they are creating 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by phantom(m): 4:08pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
Below is the breakdown of the monthly earnings of a Nigerian senator:NOTE: ALL ARE IN NAIRA Basic Salary – 2,484 245.50 Hardship Allowance (50% of B.S) – 1 242 122.70 Consistuency allowance (200% of B.S) – 4 968 509.00 Furniture Allowance (300% of B.S) – 7 452 736.50 Newspapers Allowance (50% of B.S) – 1 242 122.70 Wardrobe Allowance (25% of B.S) – 621 061.37 Recess Allowance (10% of B.S) – 248 424.55 Accommodation (200% of B.S) – 4 968 509.00 Utilities (30% of B.S) – 828 081.83 Domestic Staff (75% of B.S) – 1 863 184.12 Entertainment (30% of B.S) – 828 081.83 Personal Assistance (25% of B.S) – 621 061.37 Vehicle Maintainance Allowance (75% of B.S) – 1 863 184.12 Leave Allowance (10% of B.S) – 248 424.55 Severance grautity (300% of B.S) – 7 452 736.50 Motor Vehicle Allowance (400% of B.S) – 9 936 982.00 – Every Four YearsSenators’ salary per month – N 2 456 647.7 Total = N 29 479 749 * 109 Senators Grand Total = N 3 264 329 264.10 [b]The breakdown above does not include: the quaterly unaccountable constituency allowances (35million for each house of rep. member. 48 million for each sen.), their individual convoy of tinted bulletproofs dozens of brandnew Jeeps, some unnamed backyard moneys, some big and fat handy envelops nor does it include ‘never to be known by the public’ moneys not to talk of embezzlement and bribery etc.From the breakdown one will immediately understand the reason why our politics is christianed ‘DO OR DIE AFFAIR’ for the money seems enough for any insane senator, as it seems we have, to want to end his opponent breath at election. No wonder the senate president has turned his public post into a life affair stuff. No wonder senatorial and representative sits have turned hereditarial in nature for after the said 2 terms the sit should be left for relatives or children. No wonder we kept having boxers and wrestlers in N.A instead of them representing the nation in several weight titles and championships. No wonder ‘serving’ the people is a must . All a doctor is asking for is #100 000 monthly Hazard not hardship allowance & this appears "TOO MUCH" for Jonathan/Onyebuchi.[/b] 1 Like |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Nobody: 6:39pm On Aug 18, 2014 |
After all, who doesn't know that the best treatment for a headache is to cut off the said head, even if the headache is only pointing to a more sinister problem? Why should they ask for better equipment to work with? Why do they need CT and MRI machines to diagnose when we have our ancient African technology of seeing a person miles away in the palms of our hands? Why should they ask for grants for researches? Shouldnt their jumbo pays be enough to fund such studies? Why havent they found a cure for this viral haemorrhagic fever? Why should they fault you for begging the Americans to give us ZMapp? What are big brothers for? Is it not to clean up their younger ones every time they pee in their pants? Why shouldn't you blame them for the ebola outbreak in the country? Isn't manning the borders supposed to be part of their work? Why should they say they want to be the only ones to be tagged a sConsultants? Is it not a mere sobriquet every Tom, Dick, and Harry can choose to be called by? Havent people started calling me Professor as far back as my primary school days? Why do they oppose relativity in the health sector? Arent men born equal? Do they think you have forgotten that the quest for relativism caused the biblical fall of man? Why should they want to head the medical team because they claim they are better intellectually equipped? Isnt that egotistical? Why should they tell you to extend universal health coverage to all citizens? Dont they know that the citizens are wealthy enough to fund their medical expenses? Why are they even fighting for the masses? Do they know how many of the intended recipients of the policy jumped for joy when you called for the heads of their supposed activists? Why didnt they take you by your word when you signed the said agreement with them earlier in the year? Why do they insist on implementation? Dont they know ASUU went on strike for a different reason last year, other than non- implementation of an agreement signed in 2009? Do they think your pacts are worthless? Why should they tell you not to remind them of their sacred Hippocratic Oath and not go on strike? Dont they know you also took an oath when you came into office? Shouldnt they know you swore to protect the interest of the ordinary citizen and that is just what you are doing? Why should they clamour for increased pay? Don't they know that this country isnt financially buoyant enough to meet their demands like in the other countries? Who told them our political office holders still manage to get the equivalent of (or more than) what their equals in those other countries earn? The answer to the questions is obviously what you have done. Fire the resident doctors. But dont stop at that. Fire the consultants, the medical officers and the house officers too. Order state executives to sack those in their employ. You can even fire all medical students. They could have been brainwashed by their seniors. They have drained enough from the pockets of their parents. The government is also wasting scarce funds because they spend ages in medical school, saying they dont want to be half-baked. Like we told them we need bread! Besides their seniors are always telling them they dont know anything. Take a nip in the bud before it is too late. Lets go back to those times when there were no doctors. Tobi Bamigbade Medicine 600L, OAU http://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2014/08/yes-your-excellency-sir-sack-them-all-by-tobi-bamigbade/ 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by thaqib(m): 8:47pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
phantom: Below is the breakdown of the monthly earnings of a Nigerian senator:NOTE: ALL ARE IN NAIRApls tell me it is yearly, can't be monthly. Would dey collect furniture allowance monthky ni? I go faint o.. |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by phantom(m): 10:09pm On Aug 19, 2014 |
thaqib: pls tell me it is yearly, can't be monthly. Would dey collect furniture allowance monthky ni? I go faint o.. which yearly thats why i said nigerians are mentally deranged. |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by Nobody: 2:26am On Aug 20, 2014 |
Tayo Onaleye ARE RESIDENT DOCTORS REALLY BEING SPONSORED BY GOVT? Some people have questioned the rationale of state and federal governments paying salaries to resident doctors. They claim that other graduates pay to get post-graduate training while doctors are paid to do same. Please take a closer look. For a typical Nigerian graduate to get post- graduate education, she pays for a form obtained from the institution of interest and pays annual school fees. SHE DOESN'T WORK FOR THAT INSTITUTION. A resident doctor is very different. SHE WORKS DAY AND NIGHT FOR THE INSTITUTION TRAINING HER! Resident doctors contribute a large chunk to the results generated by the training institutions. So the salary a resident doctor gets is not a bonanza neither is it "Father Christmas" gift. It is EARNED in exchange for contributing VALUE. Government training of residents is a win-win situation. The resident takes care of Government's patient and simultaneously advances his career. As a matter of fact, any form of training done on government platform must never be seen as a favour from government to the trainee. IT IS A RESPONSIBILITY! Residency training is a form of human capital development and is a chief responsibility of government over and above building roads and bridges. No sane society will neglect, abort or even suspend the training of highly skilled professionals like specialists-in-training doctors (residents). 3 Likes |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by janifyreez(f): 7:14am On Aug 21, 2014 |
;DEnof is Enof..I pity those who dnt have their private hosp cos by the time hunger go wire their belle, they will unknowinly accept the part time stuff..... |
Re: NMA Dares Jonathan - Asks Resident Doctors To Reject Sack Letters by widowhusband: 1:24am On Aug 28, 2014 |
Smartsyn: pardon my ignorance, please who is a resident doctor.. check this thread- Please sack all doctors now!by Dr Biodun Ogungbo he answered this clearly |
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