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Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:58pm On Sep 21, 2014
Question: "Was Saint Peter the first pope?"

Answer: The Roman Catholic Church sees Peter as the first pope upon whom God had chosen to build His church (Matthew 16:18). It holds that he had authority (primacy) over the other apostles. The Roman Catholic Church maintains that sometime after the recorded events of the book of Acts, the Apostle Peter became the first bishop of Rome, and that the Roman bishop was accepted by the early church as the central authority among all of the churches. It teaches that God passed Peter’s apostolic authority to those who later filled his seat as bishop of Rome. This teaching that God passed on Peter’s apostolic authority to the subsequent bishops is referred to as “apostolic succession.”

The Roman Catholic Church also holds that Peter and the subsequent popes were and are infallible when addressing issues “ex cathedra,” from their position and authority as pope. It teaches that this infallibility gives the pope the ability to guide the church without error. The Roman Catholic Church claims that it can trace an unbroken line of popes back to St. Peter, citing this as evidence that it is the true church, since, according to their interpretation of Matthew 16:18, Christ built His church upon Peter.

But while Peter was central in the early spread of the gospel (part of the meaning behind Matthew 16:18-19), the teaching of Scripture, taken in context, nowhere declares that he was in authority over the other apostles, or over the church (having primacy). See Acts 15:1-23; Galatians 2:1-14; and 1 Peter 5:1-5. Nor is it ever taught in Scripture that the bishop of Rome, or any other bishop, was to have primacy over the church. Scripture does not even explicitly record Peter even being in Rome. Rather there is only one reference in Scripture of Peter writing from “Babylon,” a name sometimes applied to Rome (1 Peter 5:13). Primarily upon this and the historical rise of the influence of the Bishop of Rome come the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching of the primacy of the bishop of Rome. However, Scripture shows that Peter’s authority was shared by the other apostles (Ephesians 2:19-20), and the “loosing and binding” authority attributed to him was likewise shared by the local churches, not just their church leaders (see Matthew 18:15-19; 1 Corinthians 5:1-13; 2 Corinthians 13:10; Titus 2:15; 3:10-11).

Also, nowhere does Scripture state that, in order to keep the church from error, the authority of the apostles was passed on to those they ordained (the idea behind apostolic succession). Apostolic succession is “read into” those verses that the Roman Catholic Church uses to support this doctrine (2 Timothy 2:2; 4:2-5; Titus 1:5; 2:1; 2:15; 1 Timothy 5:19-22). Paul does NOT call on believers in various churches to receive Titus, Timothy, and other church leaders based on their authority as bishops or their having apostolic authority, but rather based upon their being fellow laborers with him (1 Corinthians 16:10; 16:16; 2 Corinthians 8:23).

What Scripture DOES teach is that false teachings would arise even from among church leaders, and that Christians were to compare the teachings of these later church leaders with Scripture, which alone is infallible (Matthew 5:18; Psalm 19:7-8; 119:160; Proverbs 30:5; John 17:17; 2 Peter 1:19-21). The Bible does not teach that the apostles were infallible, apart from what was written by them and incorporated into Scripture. Paul, in talking to the church leaders in the large city of Ephesus, makes note of coming false teachers. To fight against their error does NOT commend them to “the apostles and those who would carry on their authority”; rather, Paul commends them to “God and to the word of His grace” (Acts 20:28-32). It is Scripture that was to be the infallible measuring stick for teaching and practice (2 Timothy 3:16-17), not apostolic successors. It is by examining the Scriptures that teachings are shown to be true or false (Acts 17:10-12).

Was Peter the first pope? The answer, according to Scripture, is a clear and emphatic “no.” Peter nowhere claims supremacy over the other apostles. Nowhere in his writings (1 and 2 Peter) did the Apostle Peter claim any special role, authority, or power over the church. Nowhere in Scripture does Peter, or any other apostle, state that their apostolic authority would be passed on to successors. Yes, the Apostle Peter had a leadership role among the disciples. Yes, Peter played a crucial role in the early spread of the gospel (Acts chapters 1-10). Yes, Peter was the “rock” that Christ predicted he would be (Matthew 16:18). However, these truths about Peter in no way give support to the concept that Peter was the first pope, or that he was the “supreme leader” over the apostles, or that his authority would be passed on to the bishops of Rome. Peter himself points us all to the true Shepherd and Overseer of the church, the Lord Jesus Christ (1 Peter 2:25).

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Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by peteregwu(m): 9:42pm On Sep 21, 2014
IT IS FALSE, PETER WAS NEVER THE FIRST POPE. THAT WAS THE VATICAN CLAIM, BUT IT IS FALSE. THEY ARE JUST USING IT TO DECEIVE BELIEVERS. NOTHING LIKE THAT IN THE BIBLE.

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Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:32pm On Sep 29, 2014
peteregwu:

IT IS FALSE, PETER WAS NEVER THE FIRST POPE. THAT WAS THE VATICAN CLAIM, BUT IT IS FALSE. THEY ARE JUST USING IT TO DECEIVE BELIEVERS. NOTHING LIKE THAT IN THE BIBLE.

Did Peter ever go to Rome? Is there any title called "Pope" in the NT? undecided
Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:07pm On Aug 03, 2015
"Was Saint Peter the first pope?"
Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by Scholar8200(m): 1:22pm On Aug 03, 2015
Peter identified himself as an elder , equal in position to others that were converted after him:
1 Peter 5:1
The [b]elders which are among you I exhort, [size=13pt]who am also an elder[/size][/b]and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:


He further referred to Jesus (not himself) as the Chief Shepherd(erroneously used for the pope):

1 Peter 5:4
And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

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Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:10pm On Dec 30, 2015
Scholar8200:


Peter identified himself as an elder , equal in position to others that were converted after him:
1 Peter 5:1
The [b]elders which are among you I exhort, [size=13pt]who am also an elder[/size][/b]and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:


He further referred to Jesus (not himself) as the Chief Shepherd(erroneously used for the pope):

1 Peter 5:4
And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

God bless you for your expositions. smiley

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Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by Scholar8200(m): 7:48am On Dec 31, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


God bless you for your expositions. smiley
Amen.
Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by jaegermesiter: 9:04am On Dec 31, 2015
Scholar8200:
Peter identified himself as an elder , equal in position to others that were converted after him:
1 Peter 5:1
The [b]elders which are among you I exhort, [size=13pt]who am also an elder[/size][/b]and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:


He further referred to Jesus (not himself) as the Chief Shepherd(erroneously used for the pope):

1 Peter 5:4
And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.


The pope is not the chief sheperd,he is vicar of christ,bishop of rome(elder) an the supreme pontiff......the word pope means papa.....and please deeper life olaadegbu knows the truth ,stop messing with peoples faith

Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by jaegermesiter: 9:06am On Dec 31, 2015
Yes....st. Peter was the first pope.the word pope,bishop,trinity aren't even in the bible too
Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:25am On Jan 07, 2016
jaegermesiter:


Yes....st. Peter was the first pope.the word pope,bishop,trinity aren't even in the bible too

What do you mean by pope and show us where its concept can be found in the Scripture?
Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by jaegermesiter: 9:04pm On Jan 07, 2016
The word pope means 'papa' a child term for father
Matthew 16:
I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Luke 22:
Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.

John 21:
Feed my sheep.
And the Events of theFirst Council of Jerusalem in the Book of Acts of the Apostles
OLAADEGBU:


What do you mean by pope and show us where its concept can be found in the Scripture?

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Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by jaegermesiter: 9:41pm On Jan 07, 2016
The Catholic Church doesn't teach that God some time Later made Peter pope(pls stop lying) the Church teaches that christ instituted Peter as pope during his ministry on earth,and about apostolic sucession(pls stop saying crap) any clergy who went to seminary or theological school doesn't argue this, all ordanied priest can trace their apostolic sucession back to the apostles,I repeat all...........


And just below is the church icon for St. Peter with tow keys(one Gold and Silver) Gold for binding and loosing in heaven and silver for binding and loosing on earth.the Halo depicts his heavenly race won

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Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by cckris: 9:53pm On Jan 07, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


What do you mean by pope and show us where its concept can be found in the Scripture?
Matthew 23 : 9 Jesus warns not call anyone SPIRITUAL FATHER, or PAPA, DADDY GO, etc. Idolaters will never heed this wise counsel, and continue to fall victims of RELIGIOUS FRAUDS.
Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by cckris: 10:03pm On Jan 07, 2016
jaegermesiter:
The word pope means 'papa' a child term for father
Matthew 16:
I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Luke 22:
Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.

John 21:
Feed my sheep.
And the Events of theFirst Council of Jerusalem in the Book of Acts of the Apostles
JESUS is the Rock with Moses in the wilderness.
JESUS is the Foundation of the Church.
JESUS also warns against calling anyone Spiritual Father
SEEK these Scriptures, and find it then, IF you truly hunger and thirst after Righteousness, and be filled.
Re: Was Saint Peter The First Pope? by cckris: 10:19pm On Jan 07, 2016
OLAADEGBU:
"Was Saint Peter the first pope?"
NO, the apostle Peter was not a Pope.
The seven churches in Revelation 2 and 3 weren't encouraged to submit to any hierarchy called Pope. These churches were all on their own, DIRECTLY under Christ Jesus their owner. God is wiser than Satan. The moment you bring all churches under one organisation, Satan will transform his demons into angels of light, send them to Bible Schools, where they will cite Scriptures the way Satan cited them before Jesus. And when they wangle their way up to Leadership, you'll see gay marriage, and worse.

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