GooseBaba:

Try making sense of your reality and stop trying to caged your reality in folklore/myths and superstition.

Free yourself from mental debauchery...

so i take it the sexual fantasies you indulge in when idle is your reality abi?

Bidam: so i take it the sexual fantasies you indulge in when idle is your reality abi?

Hahahahahahahaha.

Bidam: so i take it the sexual fantasies you indulge in when idle is your reality abi?

Kindly give me two examples of sexual fantasies that I indulge in..? Smh...

Meanwhile, if I "indulge" it becomes reality..smh .. Bible verses don drain your brain...

Image123:

Hahahahahahahaha.

Bro..dnt mind these folks that think they can make a mockery of redemption. Let him taste his bile this evening.

GooseBaba:

Kindly give me two examples of sexual fantasies that I indulge in..? Smh...

I am not in your thoughts. It will be ok for you to name them for us, let's see.

Meanwhile, if I "indulge" it becomes reality..smh .. Bible verses don drain your brain...

Wrong. It becomes a reality when you ACT it out.

Bidam: I am not in your thoughts. It will be ok for you to name them for us, let's see.
Wrong. It becomes a reality when you ACT it out.

You brought up intimate fantasies and you asked that I give you examples... Craze dey worry you.?

Guy put down that bible and grab a dictionary...

Indulging in intimate fantasies is that not and act...

Lustful thoughts is not the same as indulging.. Get your mind right..

OLAADEGBU:

What is considered to be sexually immoral? Why is it considered sexually immoral if we are in love?

Answer: In the New Testament, the word most often translated “sexual immorality” is porneia. This word is also translated as “whoredom,” “fornication,” and “idolatry.” It means “a surrendering of sexual purity”, and it is primarily used of premarital sexual relations. From this Greek word we get the English word pornography, stemming from the concept of “selling off.” Sexual immorality is the “selling off” of sexual purity and involves any type of sexual expression outside the boundaries of a biblically defined marriage relationship (Matthew 19:4–5).

The connection between sexual immorality and idolatry is best understood in the context of 1 Corinthians 6:18, which says, “Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.” The bodies of believers are the “temple of the Holy Spirit” (1 Corinthians 6:19–20). Pagan idol worship often involved perverse and immoral sexual acts performed in the temple of a false god. When we use our physical bodies for immoral purposes, we are imitating pagan worship by profaning God’s holy temple with acts He calls detestable (1 Corinthians 6:9–11).

Biblical prohibitions against sexual immorality are often coupled with warnings against “impurity” (Romans 1:24; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 4:19). This word in the Greek is akatharsia, which means “defiled, foul, ceremonially unfit.” It connotes actions that render a person unfit to enter God’s presence. Those who persist in unrepentant immorality and impurity cannot come into the presence of God. Jesus said, “Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God” (Matthew 5:8; Psalm 24:3–4). It is impossible to maintain a healthy intimacy with God when our bodies and souls are given over to impurities of any kind.

Sexuality is God’s design. He alone can define the parameters for its use. The Bible is clear that sex was created to be enjoyed between one man and one woman who are in a covenant marriage until one of them dies (Matthew 19:6). Sexuality is His sacred wedding gift to human beings. Any expression of it outside those parameters constitutes abuse of God’s gift. Abuse is the use of people or things in ways they were not designed to be used. The Bible calls this sin. Adultery, premarital sex, pornography, and homosexual relations are all outside God’s design, which makes them sin.

The following are some common objections to God’s commands against the sexually immoral:

1. It’s not wrong if we love each other. The Bible makes no distinction between “loving” and “unloving” sexual relations. The only biblical distinction is between married and unmarried people. Sex within marriage is blessed (Genesis 1:28); sex outside of marriage is “fornication” or the “sexually immoral” (1 Corinthians 7:2–5).

2. Times have changed, and what was wrong in biblical times is no longer considered sin. Most of the passages condemning sexual immorality also include evils such as greed, lust, stealing, etc. (1 Corinthians 6:9–10; Galatians 5:19–21). We have no problem understanding that these other things are still sin. God’s character does not change with culture’s opinion (Malachi 3:6; Numbers 23:19; Hebrews 13:8.)

3. We’re married in God’s eyes. This argument implies that God is cross-eyed. The fallacy of this idea is that the God who created marriage in the first place would retract His own command to accommodate what He has called sin. God declared marriage to be one man and one woman united for life (Mark 10:6–9). The Bible often uses the imagery of a wedding and a covenant marriage as a metaphor to teach spiritual truth (Matthew 22:2; Revelation 19:9). God takes marriage very seriously, and His “eyes” see immorality for what it is, regardless of how cleverly we have redefined it.

4. I can still have a good relationship with God because He understands. Proverbs 28:9 says, “If one turns away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer is an abomination.” We fool ourselves when we think that we can stubbornly choose sin and God does not care. First John 2:3–4 contains a serious challenge for those who persist in this line of thinking: “We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. Whoever says, ‘I know him,’ but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.”

Hebrews 13:4 makes God’s expectation for His children crystal clear: “Let marriage be held in honour among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.” To be sexually immoral is wrong. The blood of Jesus can cleanse us from every type of impurity when we repent and receive His forgiveness (1 John 1:7–9). But that cleansing means our old nature, including sexual immorality, is put to death (Romans 6:12–14, 8:13). Ephesians 5:3 says, “But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.”

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/sexual-immorality.html#ixzz3EnK5qV3z

sonOfLucifer: We are all sexual beings. There's nothing sexually im
immoral. Be creative. Embrace your carnality for that's all you are.

what if I'm a psychopath(an intelligent one at that) who gets creative gratification from mutilating others?


Should I embrace?

Joshthefirst: what if I'm a psychopath(an intelligent one at that) who gets creative gratification from mutilating others?


Should I embrace?

Yes, you should. You are who you are.

sonOfLucifer:
Yes, you should. You are who you are.

So I should embrace psychopathic murder because I am who I am?

Even when I kill others in the process?

Even when I do wrong in the process?

Joshthefirst: So I should embrace psychopathic murder because I am who I am?

Even when I kill others in the process?

Even when I do wrong in the process?

What is wrong? The purpose of life is survival by any means necessary. Nature has no time for the weak and feeble.

sonOfLucifer:
What is wrong? The purpose of life is survival by any means necessary. Nature has no time for the weak and feeble.

So things like lying and stealing and rape aren't wrong?

Joshthefirst: So things like lying and stealing and rape aren't wrong?

They are all necessary. Is hunger wrong?

sonOfLucifer:
They are all necessary. Is hunger wrong?

wrong doing is necessary?


Hunger isn't wrong. Its a physiological process.

Joshthefirst: So things like lying and stealing and rape aren't wrong?

In some cultures, circumstances and religious beliefs these acts are not wrong..

I know a diplomat from Ethiopia who said from his tribe/clan telling lies is part of their cultural norms..

When it comes to stealing ask Wallstreet....

When it comes to raape ask those in the middle east that raape women because they dishonored their families...

Honor killings.... Etc.. At the end of the day the destiny of mankind is in the hands of man...no gra gra inside.

GooseBaba:

In some cultures, circumstances and religious beliefs these acts are not wrong..

I know a diplomat from Ethiopia who said from his tribe/clan telling lies is part of their cultural norms..

When it comes to stealing ask Wallstreet....

When it comes to raape ask those in the middle east that raape women because they dishonored their families...

Honor killings.... Etc.. At the end of the day the destiny of mankind is in the hands of man...no gra gra inside.

Lovely answer. The actions are all necessary in the greater scope of mankind's survival. If an action threatens our survival, our morality might adapt to the mitigating circumstances. Wrong and right is a privilege only humans enjoy. Unfortunate.

GooseBaba:

In some cultures, circumstances and religious beliefs these acts are not wrong..

I know a diplomat from Ethiopia who said from his tribe/clan telling lies is part of their cultural norms..

When it comes to stealing ask Wallstreet....

When it comes to raape ask those in the middle east that raape women because they dishonored their families...

Honor killings.... Etc.. At the end of the day the destiny of mankind is in the hands of man...no gra gra inside.

so human's determine what's right or wrong to you?

What about God?
Do you think he has a say?

I believe God determines what's right or wrong, irrespective of what we or our tribes or religions think.

I also believe God gives us a conscience that is in coalition with his law. Inscribed in the minds of humanity.

Joshthefirst: so human's determine what's right or wrong to you?

What about God?
Do you think he has a say?

I believe God determines what's right or wrong, irrespective of what we or our tribes or religions think.

I also believe God gives us a conscience that is in coalition with his law. Inscribed in the minds of humanity.

Who cares about your fucking beliefs Chrestard. Your belief doesnt change a thing about fact. Men are their own gods.

sonOfLucifer:
Who cares about your fucking beliefs Chrestard. Your belief doesnt change a thing about fact. Men are their own gods.

The fact is that men will answer to the true God.

Joshthefirst: so human's determine what's right or wrong to you?

What about God?
Do you think he has a say?

I believe God determines what's right or wrong, irrespective of what we or our tribes or religions think.

I also believe God gives us a conscience that is in coalition with his law. Inscribed in the minds of humanity.

This is the aspect of gra gra....

Check it...from time memorial man has made rules, lived by them and died by them... What ever is inscribed in the minds of humanity is survival. An infant knows when he/she cries it brings warmth and food...

Before the advent of your god in Nigeria. Africans already know of God/gods... Societal norms were created along man made rules and that of God for the sole survival of themselves which equates to humanity.

Your gra gra is part of mankind is in the hands of man.. The missionaries succeeded in Nigeria that's why we have the likes of you.. If ISIS succeeds in their gra gra the dynamic in that region will change and people will conform for survival reasons...

GooseBaba:

This is the aspect of gra gra....

Check it...from time memorial man has made rules, lived by them and died by them... What ever is inscribed in the minds of humanity is survival. An infant knows when he/she cries it brings warmth and food...

Before the advent of your god in Nigeria. Africans already know of God/gods... Societal norms were created along man made rules and that of God for the sole survival of themselves which equates to humanity.

Your gra gra is part of mankind is in the hands of man.. The missionaries succeeded in Nigeria that's why we have the likes of you.. If ISIS succeeds in their gra gra the dynamic in that region will change and people will conform for survival reasons...

From time immemorial, men have been lost.

Men can only achieve peaceful survival when they come to terms with good and evil, with right and wrong. Imbalance in the notion of these basic objective things is what brings chaos to societies today. Is what twists a man, is what creates psychopaths who condone psycopatic killing as far as it satisfies selfish dominant interest. That in its intrinsic nature is wrong. Perverted. Communities rise and fall, but we can only stand strong among ourselves and to God when we come to terms with this.

Isis might stand to win that war, but there will be some who will refuse to stand with Isis in those regions, inspite of empty survival interests, they will stand for good.

Joshthefirst: From time immemorial, men have been lost.

Men can only achieve peaceful survival when they come to terms with good and evil, with right and wrong. Imbalance in the notion of these basic objective things is what brings chaos to societies today. Is what twists a man, is what creates psychopaths who condone psycopatic killing as far as it satisfies selfish dominant interest. That in its intrinsic nature is wrong. Perverted. Communities rise and fall, but we can only stand strong among ourselves and to God when we come to terms with this.

Isis might stand to win that war, but there will be some who will refuse to stand with Isis in those regions, inspite of empty survival interests, they will stand for good.

Gbam..!!!!!

The god whom you proclaim to be the correct god was forced on others in Nigeria by the colonialist /missionaries. The traditionalist continues to refuse them in spite of empty survival interest, till this day the Nigerian/African traditionalist still stand for good...

You speak as if there is any practical thing called "perfect union".. Change is inevitable, the dynamic of Nigeria cultural norms changed with the infusion of foreign deities...

Bros, do you live in a different planet..? Where ever you are right now posting on this thread is it not peaceful..right now somewhere in Liberia where Ebola is running rampant someone is getting good head, abeg come down to planet reality..

When you speak of good and evil, right or wrong. Would you agree with me that believing in a dead man for salvation is evil..?

GooseBaba:


It's demonic for the living to be a bride to the dead..

Without darkness how can one embrace light. That means to say everything has a purpose..

No such thing as spiritual truth,... If i dey lie ask the numerous denominations why truths full ground remain.

One pastor says mastubation is of the lord, once saved always save. Another says you must ask for forgiveness. Another says pay tithe, another says don't pay tithe.... And all this madness are under spiritual truth.... Smh..

African bible lovers, deluding themselves sine 1897..

U must really be a goose... How dare u open ur filthy mouth and proclaim that Jesus is dead. Are u an anti Christ? Tell me to know where and when ur deliverance will start. Whether u believe it or not, Jesus is alive and the only salvation to ur soul. The earlier u know, the better. Drop ur number for more teachings .. SMB (shaking my beard, highly disappointed)

sciyhf:

U must really be a goose... How dare u open ur filthy mouth and proclaim that Jesus is dead. Are u an anti Christ? Tell me to know where and when ur deliverance will start. Whether u believe it or not, Jesus is alive and the only salvation to ur soul. The earlier u know, the better. Drop ur number for more teachings .. SMB (shaking my beard, highly disappointed)

Who be this demented Ebola patient with Internet connection.. whether you believe it or not Mohamed (pbuh) is the true prophet and Allah is YOUR creator.. Hell awaits you for seeking salvation from a corpse..

If your Jesus is not dead and rotten.. When was the last time you physical saw him, what was he wearing and which language did he speak..?

Goose the great baba has spoken...

GooseBaba:

Who be this demented Ebola patient with Internet connection.. whether you believe it or not Mohamed (pbuh) is the true prophet and Allah is YOUR creator.. Hell awaits you for seeking salvation from a corpse..

If your Jesus is not dead and rotten.. When was the last time you physical saw him, what was he wearing and which language did he speak..?

Goose the great baba has spoken...

Jesus is sitted on his throne at the right hand of God.. Besides, have u heard that God is the God of the living and not dead. Christ said this to
Illustrate that even Abraham, Isaac, Jacob , Moses etc are still alive with God and dats why he is called the God of Abraham etc. I guess ur mohammad is dead that his name isn't included since u were taught of no life after daeth.

In any case, Christ rose from the death, I ascended into heavn. Proof: enoch and Elijah did too. They never died. Though Christ is a spirit, I am a HUGE WITNESS that he is alive. I ave seen him, experienced him and even felt him. So just accept the truth and don't argue what u don't know. Jesus loves u Mr goose.

sciyhf:

Jesus is sitted on his throne at the right hand of God.. Besides, have u heard that God is the God of the living and not dead. Christ said this to
Illustrate that even Abraham, Isaac, Jacob , Moses etc are still alive with God and dats why he is called the God of Abraham etc. I guess ur mohammad is dead that his name isn't included since u were taught of no life after daeth.

In any case, Christ rose from the death, I ascended into heavn. Proof: enoch and Elijah did too. They never died. Though Christ is a spirit, I am a HUGE WITNESS that he is alive. I ave seen him, experienced him and even felt him. So just accept the truth and don't argue what u don't know. Jesus loves u Mr goose.

Accept what dirty truth.... Simple question...

When last did you physical see a man who died 2000yrs ago...? You claim he is a spirit, then you claim you have seen him.. beginning of craze...

Your great great grandmother loves you, she feels for you because you are already running mad...





P's: Jesus is a dead homosextual and mohammad was a rapist... Death to Islam and Christianity in Nigeria... Amun..!!!!

sciyhf:


U must really be a goose... How dare u open ur filthy mouth and proclaim that Jesus is dead. Are u an anti Christ? Tell me to know where and when ur deliverance will start. Whether u believe it or not, Jesus is alive and the only salvation to ur soul. The earlier u know, the better. Drop ur number for more teachings .. SMB (shaking my beard, highly disappointed)

Jesus is dead and buried.

Bidam:


Ok. Premarital sex is not fornication according you. Can you tell us why sex before marriage is not sexually immoral along few lines?

Don't expect Goshen to answer you any time soon.

Goshen360:


I will be back WHEN I have enough time.

How long will it take you to be back? Could that be a tactical withdrawal?

OLAADEGBU:


Don't expect Goshen to answer you any time soon.

Just like you run from some thread and come with some links. You can't discuss scripture by yourself without referring to one link or another.

OLAADEGBU:


How long will it take you to be back? Could be a tactical withdrawal?

When I return, you can't discuss scripture by yourself.

Goshen360:


Just like you run from some thread and come with some links. You can't discuss scripture by yourself without referring to one link or another.

Let us here your answer, links and scriptures are permitted.