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Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by udatso: 1:25pm On Oct 14, 2014 |
malvisguy212: this is a clear proof of the fact that you didnt understand a bit of what I sent. what gives me comfort is that when I reply , its not meant for you alone , others who might think you have a solid point would only see it crumbling like a heap of leaves |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by yazach: 4:38pm On Oct 14, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Mr. Man his post is very relevant it is you that suppose to open your devilish heart and hear to make truth sit down for you body. In fact his response is more powerful to debunk you claim than atomic bomb 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by yazach: 4:44pm On Oct 14, 2014 |
udatso: Did you mind that zone B? he is only garbage in garbage out did he know how many time Pharaoh was also mentioned in the qura'an so if mentioning name signifies dignity does that mean pharaoh was also holy? He was posting what one yeye christian posted online so he just copy paste without any research. If you want to catch him, ask him to list Verse of the Qura'an where Jesus was mentioned in the qura'an |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by yazach: 4:45pm On Oct 14, 2014 |
AdeSolution: This is a great lie show me the word "Jesus" in the qura'an |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:58am On Oct 15, 2014 |
malvisguy212: are you afraid of me tou should have try to prove my response wrong...........since when i have been charring with youu you never prove me wrong for once |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by Nobody: 11:11am On Oct 15, 2014 |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by malvisguy212: 11:16am On Oct 15, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20:your knowlegde of the bible is so weak that why i dont like repying you. |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by malvisguy212: 11:17am On Oct 15, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20:your knowlegde of the word of God is so weak that why i dont like repying you. |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by yazach: 5:22pm On Oct 15, 2014 |
malvisguy212: I can see the fear in you so much that you forget how to spell knowledge even when auto correct is there for you. Reply him jooo |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by Abdulsalam20(m): 1:05pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
malvisguy212: wait what is the meaning of bible it self it means book even though we cant find the word bible in the bible and the word christianity and the word trinity i know why you dont want to respond it is just simply because christianty is an antichrist and man made religion AND MAN IS NOT PERFECT you cannot prove the quran wrong because it is a word of GOD ACCEPT ISLAM THE RELIGION OF ALL PROPHET AND BE SAVED 1 Like |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by yazach: 3:41pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: A word is enough for a wise so mavis and the likes head to Abdulsalam20's advice o |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by mustang44: 7:53pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20:You are still deceiving yourself that the coming of muhammad is in the bible abi? |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by mustang44: 7:57pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20:Wishful thinking! |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by Abdulsalam20(m): 8:06pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
mustang44: so you still dey on NL try to prove me wrong in the thread we met try to know the meaning of lie? lie is what you can prove wrong since you cant then am right and you should try to bail malvisguy212 out maintain your position you ran away from this www.nairaland.com/1881096/going-hajj-bible-evidence/4 from page 2 to and also prove the main topic wrong if you like pls can we debate on it?muhammad in the bible |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by Abdulsalam20(m): 8:08pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
mustang44: mr antichrist.......... prove all what i post wrong........follower of paul |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by mustang44: 8:10pm On Oct 16, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20:It was only muhammad that was a muslim. Let me tell you, muhammad was an arabian, muhammad was not in line with the hebrew and the jewish prophets. If all the biblical prophets were muslims like you said how come their followers were not muslims? Even their descendants are not muslims too. How come the isrealites are not muslims? Are you trying to say that they became spostates of islam? |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:24am On Oct 18, 2014 |
mustang44:asm malvisguy212 he will explainthis fir you...........even for you saying this shows you dont undersatand your book.......i promise you am still coming back to answer it am just kinda busy.......right now...........infact this questuion you ask is what made some people convert to islam because christianity is exposed in it meanwhile malvisguy212 am still awaiting your response and mustang44 you havent answer my questions in the other threas you ran away https://www.nairaland.com/1881096/going-hajj-bible-evidence/4 from page2 to4 but i promise am still coming back for that question you ask coz am on a long distance journey right now |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:51pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
mustang44 i will respond to your question little by little u posted this '[s] Let me tell you, muhammad was an arabian, muhammad was not in line with the hebrew and the jewish prophets. [/s] ARABS ARE DESCEDANT OF JEW AND MUHAMMAD IS PROPHESISED IN YOUR BOOK.......I WILL EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU WITH THE BIBLE arabs are descedant of jew even though part of the story has been fabricated in the bible i can still prove this here are proof that arab are descedant of jew [b] Abraham received instruction from God to take Hagar and her baby Ishmael to a barren and lifeless place in Arabia (Paran). The area of Paran is also referred to in the Bible in (Gen 21:21). 2. When Abraham began to leave Hagar and Ishmael alone in such barren wilderness, Hagar cried to him and asked why he was leaving her in the desert, eventually she asked if God had commanded him to do this and Abraham responded yes. When Hagar ran out of water, the baby was crying (Gen 21:17-19) 3. and in a moment of despair and apparent death, God Hears (i.e. Ishmael Gen 16:11) the cry and intervenes again and a spring of water suddenly gushed forth from under Ishmael's feet . That well later came to be known as the well of Zamzam. One must ask why God intervenes to save Ishmael, perhaps because he was part of a divine plan? AND THIS WELL IS THE WELL THAT MUSLIM DRINK WATER FROM WHEN THEY GO TO HAJJ EVEN THOUH THIS IS EVIDENT IN THE BIBLE 4. One morning Abraham rose up, gave provisions and water to Ishmael and Hagar, and left them in the wilderness of Beer Sheba in Southern Palestine (Gen 21:14). When Hagar ran out of water she could not bear to watch her son die, so she sat away. Eventually, an angel appeared before her and provided her with a spring of water. The angel further told her (Gen 21:18) Arise, lift up the lad and hold him in your hand; for I will make him a great nation . Ishmael dwelt in the wilderness of Paran (Gen 21:17-21) He had twelve sons one of whom one was named Kedar (Gen 25:13). DID YOU KNOW THIS STORY IS PART O THE STORY THAT MAKE MUSLIM GOING TO HAJJ EVEN THOUGH CHRISTIAN FARICATE THE BIBLE TO ELIMINATE THE POINT BUT IT IS STILL EVIDENT [/b] NOW I HAVE PROVE THAT ARAB ARE DESCEDANT OF ISMAHEEL LETS MOVE TO GOD CONVENANT WITH ISMAHEEL 1. (Genesis 21:13) Of the son of the maidservant (i.e. Ishmael) I will make a great nation because he is thy seed 2. (Genesis 12:2-3) And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shall be a blessing. And I will bless them that bless thee, and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. 3. (Genesis 17:4) As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shall be a father of many nations. 4. In the book of Deuteronomy 18:17-18, Moses was quoted as saying: And the lord said to me, they have well spoken that which they have spoken, I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers, like you, and will put my words in his mouth and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. .....continued on the next line. |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:25pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
mustang44 Three important elements are included in this prophecy: A prophet will come from among the brethren of the Israelites; this prophet will be like Moses and God will put his word in the mouth of this prophet. pls come to think of this your self WHO IS THE PROPHET? 1. FIRST: The bible refers to the Israelites as the brethren of the Ishmaelite (Gen 16:12, 25:18). 2. Moreover, Isaiah 42:1-11 Speaks of the geography of where this prophet will come from. Verse 42:11 states Let the desert and its towns raise their voices; let the settlements where KEDAR lives rejoice. Let the people of Sela sing for joy, let them shout from the top of the mountains. According to the Book of Genesis, KEDAR was the second son of Ishmael (Gen. 25:13). The best-known prophet who came from Ishmael's descendants is Muhammad. NOW LETS ANALYSE WHICH PROPHET IS MOSES TALKING ABOUT? I interact with most christians they said the prophesy is abouut jesus because jesus is a jew and a prophet If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets. AND THE PROPHESY IS TALKING ABOUT ONLY ONE PROPHET However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh): i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention. [Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47] ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children. iii) Both died natural deaths iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36). v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not." iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18) . 2. It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him." THIRDLY God will put his words in the mouth of that Prophet. The specific wording of the above verse is a vivid description of the type of revelation received by Muhammad. Angel Gabriel used to come and dictate to him specific portions of the Quran that were then repeated by Prophet Muhammad exactly as he had heard them. Muhammad's own thought or authorship was not involved in any way in what he uttered. The words of God were put into his mouth. As the Quran itself described 53:3-4: "He (Muhammad) does not speak of his own desire, it is no less than a revelation sent down to him." Jesus also mentioned that Muhammad would speak only what he hears but not on his own. For example, in John 16:7,13 Jesus said, ut I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away , the Counselor will not come to you[b]; but if I go, I will send him to you. But when he the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; [b] he will speak only what he hears , and he will tell you what is yet to come." (NIV) If you think the Counselor is the Holy Spirit then they are mistaken, because the Holy Spirit was already present at the time of Jesus (John 20:22 Luke 3:22). Moreover, the sentence does not make sense if it is referring to a spirit; the sentence only makes sense if it is referring to another prophet as Deuteronomy 18:18 states a prophet. another prophesy of muhammad 3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah: It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned." When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned" it is left to you to think |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:38pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
mustang44: all prophet in the bible pray as we muslim pray * When the Muslims pray, they fell on their faces Then Abram fell on his face. And God said to him(Genesis 17:3 ) Then Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly to the entrance of the tent of meeting and fell on their faces. And the glory of the LORD appeared to them, (Numbers 20:6 ) Then Joshua tore his clothes and fell to the earth on his face before the ark of the LORD (Joshua 7:6 ). When all the people of Israel saw the fire come down and the glory of the LORD on the temple, they bowed down with their faces to the ground (2 chronicles 7:3 ) And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God, and all the people answered,(A) “Amen, Amen,”(B) lifting up their hands.(C) And they bowed their heads and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground.(Nehemiah 8:6 ) ** Jesus praying to God ”And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed”( Matthew 26:39 ) ** Even Jesus’ disciples submitted as Muslims When the disciples heard this, they fell on their faces and were terrified”( Matthew 17:6 ) And Elijah went up to the top of Mount Carmel, And he bowed himself down on the earth and put his face between his knees.(1 kings 18: 42 ) And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, (Revelations 7:11 ) Oh come, let us worship and bow down let us kneel before the LORD, our Maker! (Psalm 95:6 ) All the prosperous of the earth eat and worship before him shall bow all who go down to the dust( Psalm 22:29 ) Now Manoah and his wife were watching, and they fell on their faces to the ground. (Judges 13:20 ) And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces and said, “The LORD, he is God; the LORD, he is God.”( 1 kings 18:39 ) David rose from beside the stone heap and fell on his face to the ground( 1 Samuel 20: 41 ) And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped (Joshua 5:14 ) When Abraham’s servant heard their words, he bowed himself to the earth before the LORD.(Genesis 24:52 ) Islam in Bible ••••►Bowing and Prostrating on the Ground • Jesus (Pbuh) And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou [wilt.]. (Matthew 26:39) • Moses (Pbuh) And Moses bowed to the ground and worshiped. (Exodus 34: • Moses and Aaron (Pbut) : Then Moses and Aaron went away from the assembly to the entrance of the tent of meeting and fell on their faces… (Numbers 20:6) • Abraham (Pbuh) Then Abram fell on his face. (Genesis 17:3) • Abraham’s servant : When Abraham’s servant heard their words, he bowed himself to the ground before the Lord. (Genesis 24:52) • Joshua (Pbuh) : And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped (Joshua 5:14). • Ezra and the people : Then they bowed their heads and worshiped the Lord with their faces to the ground. (Nehemiah 8:6) Jesus is a muslim: Jesus using the word "Muslim" in Luke 6:40: Let us look at Luke 6:40 from my N.I.V. Bible "A student is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher." Islam was taught by every single prophet that came before the prophet Muhammad, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus all taught and preached Islam. Including the other many prophets such as Jacob, Ishmael, Joseph, and Isaac! And all the prophets... prayed as the Muslim today pray , of course this include Jesus and his disciples WORSHIP BEFORE WUDLU(watering) . Exodus 30:20-21 (20) When they enter the Tent of Meeting, they shall wash their hands and feet with water, lest they die. Likewise, if they come to the altar to minister and to burn offering made by fire unto the Lord, (21) should they wash their hands and their feet, lest they die. That is what should be a provision for them for ever, for him and for his descendants from generation to generation. " 2 Samuel 12:20 New International Version (NIV) 20 Then David got up from the ground. After he had washed, put on lotions and changed his clothes, he went into the house of the LORD and worshiped. Then he went to his own house, and at his request they served him food, and he ate. Exodus 40:31-32 New International Version (NIV) 31 and Moses and Aaron and his sons used it to wash their hands and feet. 32 They washed whenever they entered the tent of meeting or approached the altar, as the LORD commanded Moses DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE BIBLE "Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform(ready for solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his right stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah, Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people (imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen! Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down (rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6). . |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by abdulwastecx(m): 11:45pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
malvisguy212: why worship some brown skin men when you will be better worshiping yourself. |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by abdulwastecx(m): 11:47pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
jewish is not a tribe both religion worship by some brown cave men in present day Palestine. .. |
Re: Without Jesus No One Will Enter Heaven by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:56pm On Oct 20, 2014 |
mustang44: THE ISRAELITE EVEN TILL PRESENT ARE NOT CHRISTIAN Judaism (75.4%) Islam (16.9%) Christianity (2.1%) Druzism (1.7%) Unknown (4%) www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Israel the israelite never accept jesus that is why they sent paul to destroy eerything and they also thought they have killed jesus(puh) you should now ask your self where did christiaity emanate from,,,,,,i wont discuss that its another topic this verse explain it more Jeremiah 8:8 (RSV) 8 "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. quran says it better There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! (Quran 3:78) No just estimate of Allah do they make when they say: "Nothing doth Allah send down to man (by way of revelation)" Say: "Who then sent down the Book which Moses brought?- a light and guidance to man: But ye make it into (separate) sheets for show, while ye conceal much (of its contents): therein were ye taught that which ye knew not- neither ye nor your fathers." Say: "Allah (sent it down)": Then leave them to plunge in vain discourse and trifling. (Quran 6:91) But those who wronged among them changed [the words] to a statement other than that which had been said to them. So We sent upon them a punishment from the sky for the wrong that they were doing. [quran 7:162] i think its left for you tothink mustang44 and malisguy212 its left to you come and share your iew on this |
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