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Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 1:03pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
nannymcphee: Thanks... i have it converted to .doc already. |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 1:14pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Lobeez: had to put an earpiece on...didn't believe my ear, but then again, some one wanted us to see and hear what they wanted us to see and hear... but this thread is not to nail any preacher, it is about the book. Please. Hagin nailed no on enor mentioned any church. Thanks |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by pickabeau1: 1:15pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
ch7...it seems you persist in annotating the book and calling out people (frosbel etc) anyhow u want it SO THE QUESTION IS So which major pentecostal movement in nigeria does not use the highlighted There are also some "red flags" or warning signs to watch for in determining whether a ministry is sound and worthy of support. I would suggest the utmost caution in supporting or being involved with any organization that has the following marks: Also has Mr Hagin who admitted using gimmicks in his ministry also resolvd to embark on a form of restitution like Zaccheus |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 1:20pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
BabaGnoni: leave the man alone! besides, i see nothing wrong in this video. Just that someone wanted us to see what he wanted us to. He shhold have given s the whole message, not that clip. |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 1:22pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
pickabeau1: No name calling here, i won't partake of that stunt. How many ministries did Hagin call out? You thought he was blind or deaf? |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 3:52pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Ever witnessed any of these personally? Were you convinced that it was WRONG? What did you do about it? Gombs: 1 Like |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by feedthenation(m): 4:25pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
BabaGnoni: My goodness...this is pure and undiluted idolatry. God and mammon (money) should not be mixed together. It's beyond grief that only the 'prosperity preachers' are richly blessed, whilst their members keep floating their business empires. Why is that their members are not living large in mansions, driving bentley cars, no private jets, shopping in exclusive boutiques and such likes..is our God a partial God? Here's another link to one of them, http://www.bishopjordan.com/ 1 Like |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 5:17pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
vooks: I'm not sure, not in my church though Were you convinced that it was WRONG?Refer to the above, I have no reason to lie, nor cover anyone |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 5:25pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
feedthenation: Pray for the Church of God. Meanwhile, please, no names mentioning |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by trustman: 5:51pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Gombs: Suddenly Gombs is not answering questions directly again and has resorted to prayers. 1 Like |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by pickabeau1: 5:52pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Gombs you have not answered all of my questions |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 6:29pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
trustman: Your Opinion! Duly noted |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 6:35pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
pickabeau1: I must have missed them or more importantly ignored some, but... I thought we were discussing Hagin's book not me being interviewed? The issue with answering some of these questions is that it tends to derail the thread and defeat the purpose of the thread via the book. Remember folks can take it to extremes, that's why I discourage mentioning churches and Preachers name. Hagin didn’t, in all his 68years of ministry, he sure had good reasons. Folks are smart enough to judge for themselves in their local assembly, and pray or teach or ask their pastors questions. 1 Like |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by pickabeau1: 6:55pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
ok.. Gombs: |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by nora544: 7:12pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Sorry when I see this video this schould be a pastor. Kenneth E Hagin St Louis 1997 - Holy Ghost - Laughter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL8VCbxWs3k |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by BabaGnoni: 7:25pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
nora544: ^^^ That was featured on the WoF thread https://www.nairaland.com/1790500/word-faith-movements-doctrine-proponents/7#24937905 |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by nlMediator: 8:51pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
nora544: Is it really hard to employ simple discipline? This thread has a particular focus - a book on prosperity. Why not limit your discussion to that topic? If you want to discuss other things - related or unrelated - there are threads here already for such silly business. Some of don't want to waste our time with all these distractions. 3 Likes |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by brocab: 9:41pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
My quote wasn't set out to be idiotic as you say. It was meant so you can see how the truth, today has been twisted. We have got to remember the old testament tithing was set up for the priesthood who couldn't own land, also to help feed the "poor" and the "needy. It was the Pharisees who had chosen to change Gods Mosaic law, they tithe, but they didn't follow any other commandments. Matthew 23, V's 13 Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites. For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men:for you never go in yourselves. V's 14,Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees, For you devour widows' houses, V's 15 for you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves. V's 16-Woe to you, blind guides, who say, "whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged to perform it". V's 23 Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, pretenders {hypocrites}for you give a tithe of your mint and anise and cumin,and have neglected the weightier matters of the law; Justice, and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, with out leaving the others undone. These are the same Scribes, Pharisees and lawyers who paid tithes but didn't follow any of God's commandments" But abuse it. Jesus had to change the old covenant. And when we see in today's churches, again our priesthood, will tithe, but neglected the weightier matters of the law; Justice,and mercy and faith. Jesus had good reason to change that old covenant, he had seen the damaging side to it. The lord said: you cant worship Mammon and God at the same time, you will either hate one or love the other. That is why the old covenant was changed... Gombs: |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 10:31pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
brocab: please move your tithe lectures somewhere else like the thread for tithes and offerings. Ummmm...please, next time, employ paragraphs. Next up is Chapter 5: Should preachers prosper? |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by brocab: 10:51pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Yes." Jesus said: Birds have nest, foxes have holes, but I have no place to rest my head. If Jesus was rich as some believe he was, Then with common sense. since the world began, never had the rich associated with the poor. So Jesus was poor. But rich in wisdom & knowledge..Jesus was the greatest possibility thinker their ever was on this planet, but he had chosen to be poor. Gombs: 1 Like |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by brocab: 11:02pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Preachers should prosper in word. Seek the kingdom and his righteous. and all things shall be added to you. And it don't matter what column I write into, because even the prosperity preachers preach on the tithe. "Money" So what do you think, should Preachers prosper? quote author=Gombs post=27369957] please move your tithe lectures somewhere else like the thread for tithes and offerings. Ummmm...please, next time, employ paragraphs. Next up is Chapter 5: Should preachers prosper? [/quote] |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 6:15am On Oct 23, 2014 |
thank you for your honesty. DO you believe they should be condemned in the strongest terms? Gombs: |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 6:20am On Oct 23, 2014 |
brocab: SMH ... |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 6:21am On Oct 23, 2014 |
vooks: Like Hagin did? |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 6:46am On Oct 23, 2014 |
I don't know how Hagin did, care to explain? Gombs: |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(m): 9:15am On Oct 23, 2014 |
vooks: He condemned the act in strong terms, but not the churches, nor the pastors, for good reasons- They are not answerable to him, but to God. You don’t just crucify MenOG in your book or posts because you feel you are right. If you want to correct them, call them, like Hagin did, and rebuke them to their face as Paul did to Peter's face. Imagine if Paul sat in his bedroom and wrote to all churches about Peter condemning him in strong terms. Paul wrote about the rebuke as you knew Hagin called a meeting rebuking some preachers, Paul did his rebuke in the presence of other Pastors (James, Barnabas etc) not to the whole Christians there, just like Hagin did in the presence of other pastors. Hagin has his church, others too, Paul was to the uncircumcised, Peter to the circumcised, imagine if Paul condemned the curcumcised church with their Pastor (probably head pastor) ? I believe in prayer, condemning these Pastors or the churches WILL NOT make any change, if it could, those putting up short videos, blogs, websites etc would have made an impact-we both know the didn’t and haven't..., we have the message now, we preach it, share the book, send to these pastor's etc... condemning to me will not help the body of Christ, it would inevitably degenerate to insulting and all. Our weapons of warfare should not be carnal. 1 Like |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by pickabeau1: 9:44am On Oct 23, 2014 |
is the new chapter out |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Nobody: 10:15am On Oct 23, 2014 |
Gombs: @Gombs, you have a point, but what you must understand is there is a difference between someone ignorantly walking in error and someone who deliberately arranges schemes to fleece Gods children. Some of these men know the consequences of some of their actions on the people they pull it off on but will turn a blind eye because of the wickedness of greed that has taken over them. Oh boy, the youtube videos, web links, blogs etc is really doing a lot, but you can't see it because you are on the other side of the divide. I've met dozens of people who turned their backs on WOF after seeing some of these videos. Let me give my own story: I started reading Hagins books as far back as 1989, by the time I became a teenager, I had read up to a dozen of his books. (My Mum, a Deeper Life leader had a large collection of Hagins books). I was truly inspired by his message and great testimonies of Gods power. I became fully immersed in WOF from 1993 to 2007. I was part of the emerging 'pentecostal' era of those times However after I began my gradual withdrawal from the WOF, had the opportunity for the first time to see videos of some of the people I had only read in books, some of these videos shocked me. My curiosity was ignited and I wanted to know more, sadly more led to more and more and more till I could not take it any longer. Today, I see through most of them and what saddens me is the fact that a lot of them know exactly what they are doing. Most of my friends that started the journey with me joined this bandwagon, they are international ministers today and professional snake oil salesmen. I will only pray for the few who are just ignorantly misled, but for those who are deliberately wicked, I will expose them at any given time. I do not see them as men of God so do not have have an iota of respect for them Thanks 8 Likes |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by shdemidemi(m): 10:29am On Oct 23, 2014 |
Whew- Are you trying to say being 'an international minister and professional |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Nobody: 10:44am On Oct 23, 2014 |
shdemidemi: No, and I don't see how my statement implied that |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by shdemidemi(m): 10:45am On Oct 23, 2014 |
^ Ok, thanks. At least now we know that been internationally accepted and popularly known as a minister of God by world standard does not necessarily mean one is representing God and His Word. 2 Likes |
Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 10:57am On Oct 23, 2014 |
You should speak against it as well. Save your fellow brethren from pious fraud. Did paul ever mention by name wrongdoers? Gombs: |
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