Gombs

vooks:

Start with why you do 10% while the Jew did 22%. Wait, yours is Abrahamic? Why then do you resort to Malachi which is directed at 22%-ers?

What is it? A high school subject?

Who/what is a spiritual father?

Focus on the examine and the faith bit. I did and dug up lies I had suppressed for years

I probably tithed first when you were still in your diapers. Been there,done that. You on the other hand know only CE truth

Please take time and go through them in your own time. Of course it is embarassing to admit to your fellow CE guys here that you have a crisis of conscience. It definetly helps to parade your solidarity with Oyaks to your pals. I understand that perfectly

trustman:

You can see defense mechanism all the way. Even when advised: 
"Don't study them in defense mode, seek the truth out of them."
Humility will make it possible to learn, arrogance and defiance will make it impossible. 

Gombs:


You never cease to amaze me! lol. . .you applauded vooks' math,now you deny him? notice he said 17.5% on a monthly average. all these were ok,you did not see them.

I see you want to bow out,cheer buddy,pls take trustman along.

@christembassey, when animals when get horn dey relate,snail too dey raise hand?

start from page 7 and update yourself,i was not calculating Peoples salaries,you blind?

trustman:
It is unfortunate that for a Christian thread the level of truthfulness expected is only found in a few. That the forum is largely faceless should make owning up to error an easy thing.  But that is not to be. Even an exact and logical subject as maths is contested because some do not want to admit error. 

Is that a reflection of the personal lives of the players?

Those of us who say that tithing is no longer compulsorily required of the New Testament believer do so because We want Christians to enjoy the freedom into which Christ has set them free. 

Those who insist on tithing are leading them them into a yoke of slavery. 

Making Christians tithe by means of any carrot and stick approach is tantamount to manipulating them to give. Asking anyone to go back to the so-called pre-law or tithing by faith options is not only misleading but mischievous. 

When the Christian is not left to decide from his heart what to give, any system employed to get him to give becomes gimmick which nullifies the giving. It is that serious that Christians need to know how to give rightly. 

Goshen360:
@ Gombs, Get yourself more confused with this teaching from your hero(es):



The Law Has Been Abolished

christemmbassey:
tithe wey u dey calculate no be ppl salaries? Don't worry, another small pikin go insult u back. Sowing and reaping no be d scam wey una de do for church o(collecting ppl's money) d insult wey u dey do now, u go reap.

Gombs:


Bro, tithe in it self means a tenth. Malachi was directed to 22% ers? Really?



Dear Lord Jesus!



A pastor, your shepherd.


No time for frivolities bro.



Your opinion is noted.



No thanks!



Trustman, you have sought my attention and it's becoming worrisome. Ok, let's demonstrate humility here, was circumcision as you said for ISRAEL AND ISRAEL only? Was that notion correct? If yes, how? If no, were you humble enough to admit?

BabaGnoni:

LOL
- typical of a tithe lobbyist, thinking about rules, mistaking need to know information for "rules"

Image123:


There are better and more important need to know than half truths and trip questions. There remains NO benefit from not tithing.

vooks:

There remains NO benefit from not circumcising.

Reductio ad Absurdum

Image123:

In other words, you agree with what I stated.

Kenny4lyfe:


What exactly is confusing you in the post you quoted above? Only a biblically-brain-dead religious fellow will get confused at this teaching by @joagbaje

vooks:
IF you are continuing tithing because there are NO benefits for not doing so, you may as well throw in a bunch of other stuff..circumcision,Feasts,Sabbath.....Freewill animal offerings......it is absurd and I'd be shocked if it hit you

Image123:


There remains NO benefit from not tithing, simple yes or no. No need throwing tantrums over simple straight and basic questions.

BabaGnoni:

You wouldn't recognise "Gibberish", if you read it. At this rate, you're wearing the poor "Gibberish" word thin
You wouldn't know what "Gibberish" is if it walked up to you and bite you on the bum
What you going to do, what's going to happen when you wear it thin-vanishing in to the air
- you must have just learnt the word, that's why you take to it like a shine, it's new on you LOL

Young man, if you must know, your words are empty and all that's coming out of your mouth is hot air
You're nothing worse than a disingenious windbag
Why does WoF deserve a windbag like this representing it?

As a matter of gfact, you really need to shut up for a bit because with all that diarrhea of the mouth, you still aren't coherent as you think you are or be intelligent as you like to make out.
You will not shut up, which typically is a cover for your own shortcomings, inferiority complex and inadequacy(ies)
- Running dystentry, as he's talking shite

Aren't you sick of regurgitation, repeating the same thing on and on, behaving like a whinning or nagging old hag?

You sure would like to know about "Eve-serpent-sex" Don't you? LOL
You sure would like to know about the "Kenneth Hagin-Apostle" angle. Don't you? LOL
- "...Omniscience is not required for that. Simple deductive reasoning would do" © nlMediator
You sure would like to know about the "Tower of Babel" slant. Don't you? LOL

Well what of thinking about Pearls and Pigs?
- over your head and another candidate for your favourite word; "Gibberish" LOL

If you may know, young man, I have the temerity to call you, mbaemeka, incorrigible and wallowing in ignorance. Hahahahahahaha!
Yes, I do because you repeatedly dont take to advice to back up your allegations with proof (i.e. verbatim or the actual quotes)

You know why you are unable back your posts with quotes?
It is because if/when you do, you will fall flat on your face and fail in an embarrassingly epic way

Simple questions asked, especially Q2, and he is going on la-la land (i.e Lastly, you made a fallacy of Generalizing Hastily by making it seem like 'ALL' Healing school ministers avoided patients with the conditions above when you have NEVER attended any of the healing schools to corroborate such a statement)
The questions asked were the below:
Q1) Why are "healing" schools FULL of genuinely and undisputedly crippled wheelchair-ridden people who NEVER GET HEALED?
Q2) Why is cerebral palsy sufferer(s) turned away from approaching "healing" pastor(s) on stage at "healing" school(s)?

I stand by and have ALWAYS stood by whatever I post which is why I ALWAYS BOLDLY ask for verbatim or quotations to back up any raised trumped up charges and allegations
- I will go eyeball-to-eyeball, face-to-face, head-on, mano a mano, one-on-one, toe-to-toe with ten of you put together on anything I post

I am not frightened to speak on issues I understand nor apologetic of any of my posts. I always quote-reference posts I comment or remark on

No matter how much you elbow, spit, poke, scratch, bite, stab, head butt and prod, for the likes of youse, silence is often the best thing to say.

Goshen360:


Obviously, dumb double standard hero worshippers will never see what's hidden in that teaching. I'm not confused, I only see through some bullshit that some people serve to us.

mbaemeka:


Like Circumcision is for ISRAEL AND ONLY ISRAEL.

Hahahahaha. Miss me with the BS.

mbaemeka:


Like Circumcision is for ISRAEL AND ONLY ISRAEL.

Hahahahaha. Miss me with the BS.

vooks:
You almost got right.
Nowhere are we told that God CONFIRMED nothing with numbers. I may be wrong. Please show it
you are free to imagine all parameters of 'confirming' the word....but you confuse yourself when you apply that outside the four corners of your church

nlMediator:


When Peter preached at Cornelius' home and the Holy Spirit fell on the people, was that a confirmation by God of Peter's message of salvation?

vooks:

Sure

vooks:
You never asked a question
There remains NO benefit from not circumcising,keeping Feasts and so forth. Why stop at tithes, go the whole mile

Goshen360:


The circumcision that was done IN THE FLESH was completely dismissed in the NT. It means something different to us in the NT. We can't over emphasize this point.

Goshen360:


Obviously, dumb double standard hero worshippers will never see what's hidden in that teaching. I'm not confused, I only see through some bullshit that some people serve to us.

And that'll be?
I laugh at your ignorance!

Kenny4lyfe:


[b] And that'll be?
I laugh at your ignorance!

Goshen360:

The circumcision that was done IN THE FLESH was completely dismissed in the NT. It means something different to us in the NT. We can't over emphasize this point.

mbaemeka:


^^Total rubbish- provide one verse that says so. Circumcision was not completely dismissed by anybody. It was dismissed as a condition for being saved. The same way someone is not saved because they observed the 10 Commandments the way they would have been in the OT. That's the same way I am allowed to tithe without feeling it makes me righteous. However, the blessing of tithing is still intact as is the blessing of everything pre-law and in-law.

mbaemeka:


^^Total rubbish- provide one verse that says so.

Bidam:
We can't over emphasize this point.

Goshen360:

The circumcision that was done IN THE FLESH was completely dismissed in the NT. It means something different to us in the NT. We can't over emphasize this point.

mbaemeka:

It was dismissed as a condition for being saved.

mbaemeka:

The same way someone is not saved because they observed the 10 Commandments the way they would have been in the OT.

mbaemeka:

That's the same way I am allowed to tithe without feeling it makes me righteous.

mbaemeka:

However, the blessing of tithing is still intact as is the blessing of everything pre-law and in-law.

nlMediator:


Good. But when Peter preached that same period and thousands came out for salvation, it was not God confirming Peter's message?

mbaemeka:


^^Total rubbish- provide one verse that says so. Circumcision was not completely dismissed by anybody. [size=20pt]It was dismissed as a condition for being saved. [/size]The same way someone is not saved because they observed the 10 Commandments the way they would have been in the OT. That's the same way I am allowed to tithe without feeling it makes me righteous. However, the blessing of tithing is still intact as is the blessing of everything pre-law and in-law.

mbaemeka:


^^Total rubbish- provide one verse that says so. Circumcision was not completely dismissed by anybody. It was dismissed as a condition for being saved. The same way someone is not saved because they observed the 10 Commandments the way they would have been in the OT. That's the same way I am allowed to tithe without feeling it makes me righteous. However, the blessing of tithing is still intact as is the blessing of everything pre-law and in-law.

vooks:
My broda,
But circumcision was NEVER retained for ANY reason. Acts 15 Council did more than clarify that circumcision was not necessary for salvation; it was dismissed altogether as a burden. [s]Proof of this is, Paul ONLY circumcised to avoid the bugging unbelieveing Jews. [/s] If there was ANY benefit ( which you can't name but Gombs calls 'identifying with the covenant' but can't substantiate) Paul would have circumcised more readily than only when pressured by non-believers.

So circumcision among Gentiles was not a noble practice abused like spiritual gifts in Corinth,for which proper use needed emphasis, it was an unnecessary BURDEN