I am currently running an interesting documentary on fake prophesies and prophets in the social network for businesses
Where i debunk several fake prophesies and moves by some fake men of God. Here is an excerpt from the series.
Its a proper analysis of the 54 prophesies released by apostle Johnson suleiman at the beginning of 2014. Well we are now at the end, let us see which of them came through.

Just before we start, you need to note that any a prophesy is not a statement, wish or pep talk its an informed prediction about the future in which the giver claims to have SEEN the future as a result of some divine help. Therefore , any statement that contains "may" , "we need to pray for" is not a prophesy, its a statement of doubt which anyone can make.


Here is the Full Text Of Apostle Johnson Suleman's Prophesies For 2014, you can scroll down the page to see where it was analysed.

Released On 5th December,2013
1. Rivers lawmaker to be arrested and charged for murder(it's an attempt to discredit him and the Nigeria police lied... The presidency and it's men will use the police against many people.

2. Bamanga Tukur will be removed and disgraced. 3.PDP is bad but APC is worse.4.Presidential ticket will split APC.5. Jonathan will manipulate second term.6. APC will win more slots in 2015. Over 70% of government will be in their hands.
7. If Jonathan goes ahead to contest , he will be president but will not finish his term.
8. Lagos will have a Christian governor.
9. I see CBN printing high denomination naira notes this year.
10. Tinibu of APC should not smile yet as there will be serious problems in APC.
11. The national dialogue will be the worst Nigeria has ever had, it will end up with fights and accusation of embezzlement.
12. South West will be seriously divided as a top APC chieftain will die.
13. I see bombing in Kenya.
14. Jonathan will survive impeachment.
15. If president Jonathan and Ameachi can resolve their difference, PDP will regain their lost glory.
16. Tinubu and Fashola will fight dirty.
17. Musicians should pray against road accidents.
18.I see cabinet ministers out of the villa.
19. Accord party in Oyo will gain relevance.
21.President Jonathan is the last PDP president.
22. A major and great man of God will be called home. His ministry has blessed the world.
20. APC will claim victory in 2015 but the court will give it to Jonathan .
23. A Super Eagles player will be involved in a ghastly motor accident.
24. Niger Bridge needs urgent attention, collapse is imminent.
25. Oba of Benin, oh we need to pray.
26. A northern leader, SGF, Chief of Staff will be among those in the team negotiating on the president's behalf because he will be told to step down but will not.
27. I like jonathan's gentle nature but he is surrounded by wrong people.
28. Obasanjo should shut up, he will have problem.
29. Olumba Olumba olu will have serious problems.
30. Republic of Benin will mourn a past leader.
31. Many christians looking for babies will have babies this year.
32. Ikonjo Iweala will have serious problems
33. Stella Oduah will have problems.
34. Another plane crash . Eminent personalities involved.
35. Kidnap to be more common in the west.
36. Third mainland bridge needs fresh touch.
37. All service Chiefs will be fired.
38. Oyo and Ogun state governors, I don't see them coming back. If they can pray hard, mercy may smile at them but, I see them go home.
39. Nollywood needs to pray and cancel death. I see four people. A list among them.
40. Ghana president will be betrayed by friends.
41. Governors and senators will leave PDP.
42. The Northern candidates against president Jonathan will be two majorly.
43. We should pray against Nigeria break up.
44. Tuface, Davido and Wizkid need prayers against international disgrace.
45. South Africa needs prayers not to return to the past.
46. I saw a colenel in the military trying to stage a coup but he will fail.
47. The economy of Nigeria will go worse but true Christians will prosper.
48. NTA needs prayers. I saw them crying over the loss of one of their bosses and fire out break in one of the stations.
49. Obiano, the governor elect of Anambra will face serious problems because God is unhappy with the way he was declared governor.
50. The presidency will dump governor Dickson of Bayelsa.
51. I see fuel scarcity.
52. PENGASSAN and NUPENG need prayers.
53. A popular king in Niger Delta will die.
54. Serious crisis in the north and will attract foreign help.
Is what is happening now in Nigeria a confirmation of these prophecies?
please lets pray for our dear country.

ANALYSIS
They are too many,
LET ME JUST START FROM SOMEWHERE, i dont have the time to debunk all.
8. Lagos will have a Christian governor - cool prophesy, well, lets see.
9. I see CBN printing high denomination naira notes this year. - hehehe didnt happen
10. Tinibu of APC should not smile yet as there will be serious problems in APC - lol, APC did not have 'serious' problems, they had issues they rectified just like everyother political party had issue they rectified this year and always.
11. The national dialogue will be the worst Nigeria has ever had, it will end up with fights and accusation of embezzlement - it was already happening by the time of this 'prophesy'. War of words was already there and the picture of the man playing game on his laptop #lol
12. South West will be seriously divided as a top APC chieftain will die - this didnt happen.
13. I see bombing in Kenya - rubish, bombs have been blowing in kenya, they have alshabaab terrorist group attacking them. Its just like saying, i see bomb in Nigeria. lol.
14. Jonathan will survive impeachment - this is not the first time he was threatened with such. It was easily predictable that APC would try everything possible to remove the president, impeachment inclusive. But i respect this point, its a prophesy on point.
15. If president Jonathan and Amechi can resolve their difference, PDP will regain their lost glory. - this is not a prophesy, its a conditional statement that means nothing.
16. Tinubu and Fashola will fight dirty - cool prophesy, but to what end? They didnt fight 'dirty', a minor dissagrement which was pretty predictable from the beginning of the year was what they had. Tinubu actually confirmed the other day that they are in good terms.
17. Musicians should pray against road accidents - lol, musicians always have accidents, so which one?
18.I see cabinet ministers out of the villa - Jonathan changes cabinet every few months, so what is he seeing?
19. Accord party in Oyo will gain relevance. heheheheee not yet
21.President Jonathan is the last PDP president - cool prophesy, we would have to find out in 2015 or 2019
22. A major and great man of God will be called home. His ministry has blessed the world - This is vague, several men of God die every year, which one is he talking about. Which country, how will he die? #guessWork
20. APC will claim victory in 2015 but the court will give it to Jonathan - Failed political parties always claim victory in Nigeria
23. A Super Eagles player will be involved in a ghastly motor accident - - nothing of such happened
24. Niger Bridge needs urgent attention, collapse is imminent - Niger bridge didnt collapse in 2014
25. Oba of Benin, oh we need to pray - this is not a prophesy, its a tricky statement, just like saying, nairaland, oh we need shoes
26. A northern leader, SGF, Chief of Staff will be among those in the team negotiating on the president's behalf because he will be told to step down but will not - lol, this didnt happen.
27. I like jonathan's gentle nature but he is surrounded by wrong people - this is a statement not a prophesy
28. Obasanjo should shut up, he will have problem - has none, in fact he launched a book this year and kissed a #bringBackOurgirls celebrity
29. Olumba Olumba olu will have serious problems - they had none
30. Republic of Benin will mourn a past leader - lol
31. Many christians looking for babies will have babies this year - this is not prophesy, its just like saying many white men will travel this year.
32. Ikonjo Iweala will have serious problems - She didn't even have a single problem this year, she is still rocking wella
33. Stella Oduah will have problems. - What problems?
34. Another plane crash . Eminent personalities involved. - Normal thing, planes crash every year, unfortunately there was no major one that killed eminent personalities this year
35. Kidnap to be more common in the west - not true. There was almost no recorded kidnap cases in the west this year. East and south south still leading.
36. Third mainland bridge needs fresh touch. - This is a statement not a prophesy and by the way, nothing happened to the bridge in 2014
37. All service Chiefs will be fired. - Jonathan has fired all service chiefs more than four times since he became president. He just keeps rotating cabinet. So whats the point?
38. Oyo and Ogun state governors, I don't see them coming back. If they can pray hard, mercy may smile at them but, I see them go home.
39. Nollywood needs to pray and cancel death. I see four people. A list among them. - Lol, people die everyday, eventually some of them will be nollywood artistes, so whats the point?
40. Ghana president will be betrayed by friends - didn't happen
41. Governors and senators will leave PDP. - story for the gods, this is not a prophesy, its just like saying a woman will give birth. People have been leaviing pdp since time immemorial.
42. The Northern candidates against president Jonathan will be two majorly. - Not true. PDP states are still majority.
43. We should pray against Nigeria break up. - This is not prophesy, its a statement.
46. I saw a colenel in the military trying to stage a coup but he will fail. - lol , didnt happen
47. The economy of Nigeria will go worse but true Christians will prosper. - Vague, Dangote and half of those rich senators and governors are not christians. The ones that are, are not even 'good' christians.
48. NTA needs prayers. I saw them crying over the loss of one of their bosses and fire out break in one of the stations - didnt happen, no loss of bosses, no fire out break.

49. Obiano, the governor elect of Anambra will face serious problems because God is unhappy with the way he was declared governor. - Didnt happen, dude is balling on buggati and painting onitsha with gold

51. I see fuel scarcity - didn't happen in 2014
52. PENGASSAN and NUPENG Needs prayers - not a prophesy, its a statement
53. A popular king in niger delta will die - lol , didnt happen
54. Serious crisis in the north will attract foreign help - didnt happen. Britain stopped their plane, America refused to sell us arms.

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Yeah

Cunny man die, cunny man bury am

I see

mkpakanaodogwu:
I see

lol

ooman:
Where people believe in myth, anything sells.

exactly.

hmmmmm

Apostle Suleiman is my father and a true man of God. If you have doubts about him, watch celebration tv online or on mytv decoder.
Then, and only then can you comment on his words and prophecies.
Thank you.

Fake pple with fake words. in which language did god speak to this liar?

Listen to this idiot. like father like son.being ur dad authomatically qulified him as man of god? o because he preaches online or mytv is enough to qualify him as true man of god? i dont understand what son of the liar is trying to tell us here. let me quickly tell u that ur dada is a pure liar, he sells lies in wholesales price. ask him if he has ever seen god if he has not has he ever head his voice? if not so how did he hear from god. im very sure he has not seen god & he has not heard his voice because there is no god. what ur father did is what call forcast. he pollitically,psychologically & economically analysed the data forcast the future every other person can do what ur dad did & more than 50% of the forcast will occur. in fact, 90% of what i forcast usually comes to past because i m very good at it so, tell ur dad to make public offer i want to be one of the shareholders of the church.

Call me crazy, call my father whatever you like. What I know is that God still speaks. It takes a heart of love, purity and righteousness to follow God and to hear Him.

John 10:27 - My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

2 Tim. 2:19 - However, God's solid foundation still stands. It has this inscription on it: "The Lordknows those who belong to him," and "Everyone who callson the name of the Lord must turn away from evil."

God can not lie. Seek God, fear Him and abhor evil. He still speaks.
Whether you believe it or not doesn't change God.
It's how you live your liife, see God and judge others that matters.

If you are not clear or convince about any man of God: Go on your knees and ask God. He will surely answer.

Jer.33:3 - Call to Me, and I will answer you, and show you great and2mighty things, which you do not know.

God bless you.

The more someone like u talk the more intelletuals like me get angry. imagine, who are sheep? can u call urself sheep havnt u seen some group of sheep working cant u noticed how stupid they are? if u are as stupid as those sheep u will never drag anything with god. if ur dad is as stupid as those sheep pahaps someone else would hav been ur mum. hey, humans are too intellegent to be likened with sheep, human beings drags everything the way they want without considering if there is shepherd & what does he want if he really exists because humans are not sheep as bible calls them they would hav been better called leopad. u & ur dad erred because bible erred.

Some on that list actually came to pass Bro so don't conclude.

Moderrator:
I am currently running an interesting documentary on fake prophesies and prophets in the social network for businesses
Where i debunk several fake prophesies and moves by some fake men of God. Here is an excerpt from the series.
Its a proper analysis of the 54 prophesies released by apostle Johnson suleiman at the beginning of 2014. Well we are now at the end, let us see which of them came through.

Just before we start, you need to note that any a prophesy is not a statement, wish or pep talk its an informed prediction about the future in which the giver claims to have SEEN the future as a result of some divine help. Therefore , any statement that contains "may" , "we need to pray for" is not a prophesy, its a statement of doubt which anyone can make.


Here is the Full Text Of Apostle Johnson Suleman's Prophesies For 2014, you can scroll down the page to see where it was analysed.

Released On 5th December,2013
1. Rivers lawmaker to be arrested and charged for murder(it's an attempt to discredit him and the Nigeria police lied... The presidency and it's men will use the police against many people.

2. Bamanga Tukur will be removed and disgraced. 3.PDP is bad but APC is worse.4.Presidential ticket will split APC.5. Jonathan will manipulate second term.6. APC will win more slots in 2015. Over 70% of government will be in their hands.
7. If Jonathan goes ahead to contest , he will be president but will not finish his term.
8. Lagos will have a Christian governor.
9. I see CBN printing high denomination naira notes this year.
10. Tinibu of APC should not smile yet as there will be serious problems in APC.
11. The national dialogue will be the worst Nigeria has ever had, it will end up with fights and accusation of embezzlement.
12. South West will be seriously divided as a top APC chieftain will die.
13. I see bombing in Kenya.
14. Jonathan will survive impeachment.
15. If president Jonathan and Ameachi can resolve their difference, PDP will regain their lost glory.
16. Tinubu and Fashola will fight dirty.
17. Musicians should pray against road accidents.
18.I see cabinet ministers out of the villa.
19. Accord party in Oyo will gain relevance.
21.President Jonathan is the last PDP president.
22. A major and great man of God will be called home. His ministry has blessed the world.
20. APC will claim victory in 2015 but the court will give it to Jonathan .
23. A Super Eagles player will be involved in a ghastly motor accident.
24. Niger Bridge needs urgent attention, collapse is imminent.
25. Oba of Benin, oh we need to pray.
26. A northern leader, SGF, Chief of Staff will be among those in the team negotiating on the president's behalf because he will be told to step down but will not.
27. I like jonathan's gentle nature but he is surrounded by wrong people.
28. Obasanjo should shut up, he will have problem.
29. Olumba Olumba olu will have serious problems.
30. Republic of Benin will mourn a past leader.
31. Many christians looking for babies will have babies this year.
32. Ikonjo Iweala will have serious problems
33. Stella Oduah will have problems.
34. Another plane crash . Eminent personalities involved.
35. Kidnap to be more common in the west.
36. Third mainland bridge needs fresh touch.
37. All service Chiefs will be fired.
38. Oyo and Ogun state governors, I don't see them coming back. If they can pray hard, mercy may smile at them but, I see them go home.
39. Nollywood needs to pray and cancel death. I see four people. A list among them.
40. Ghana president will be betrayed by friends.
41. Governors and senators will leave PDP.
42. The Northern candidates against president Jonathan will be two majorly.
43. We should pray against Nigeria break up.
44. Tuface, Davido and Wizkid need prayers against international disgrace.
45. South Africa needs prayers not to return to the past.
46. I saw a colenel in the military trying to stage a coup but he will fail.
47. The economy of Nigeria will go worse but true Christians will prosper.
48. NTA needs prayers. I saw them crying over the loss of one of their bosses and fire out break in one of the stations.
49. Obiano, the governor elect of Anambra will face serious problems because God is unhappy with the way he was declared governor.
50. The presidency will dump governor Dickson of Bayelsa.
51. I see fuel scarcity.
52. PENGASSAN and NUPENG need prayers.
53. A popular king in Niger Delta will die.
54. Serious crisis in the north and will attract foreign help.
Is what is happening now in Nigeria a confirmation of these prophecies?
please lets pray for our dear country.

ANALYSIS
They are too many,
LET ME JUST START FROM SOMEWHERE, i dont have the time to debunk all.
8. Lagos will have a Christian governor - cool prophesy, well, lets see.
9. I see CBN printing high denomination naira notes this year. - hehehe didnt happen
10. Tinibu of APC should not smile yet as there will be serious problems in APC - lol, APC did not have 'serious' problems, they had issues they rectified just like everyother political party had issue they rectified this year and always.
11. The national dialogue will be the worst Nigeria has ever had, it will end up with fights and accusation of embezzlement - it was already happening by the time of this 'prophesy'. War of words was already there and the picture of the man playing game on his laptop #lol
12. South West will be seriously divided as a top APC chieftain will die - this didnt happen.
13. I see bombing in Kenya - rubish, bombs have been blowing in kenya, they have alshabaab terrorist group attacking them. Its just like saying, i see bomb in Nigeria. lol.
14. Jonathan will survive impeachment - this is not the first time he was threatened with such. It was easily predictable that APC would try everything possible to remove the president, impeachment inclusive. But i respect this point, its a prophesy on point.
15. If president Jonathan and Amechi can resolve their difference, PDP will regain their lost glory. - this is not a prophesy, its a conditional statement that means nothing.
16. Tinubu and Fashola will fight dirty - cool prophesy, but to what end? They didnt fight 'dirty', a minor dissagrement which was pretty predictable from the beginning of the year was what they had. Tinubu actually confirmed the other day that they are in good terms.
17. Musicians should pray against road accidents - lol, musicians always have accidents, so which one?
18.I see cabinet ministers out of the villa - Jonathan changes cabinet every few months, so what is he seeing?
19. Accord party in Oyo will gain relevance. heheheheee not yet
21.President Jonathan is the last PDP president - cool prophesy, we would have to find out in 2015 or 2019
22. A major and great man of God will be called home. His ministry has blessed the world - This is vague, several men of God die every year, which one is he talking about. Which country, how will he die? #guessWork
20. APC will claim victory in 2015 but the court will give it to Jonathan - Failed political parties always claim victory in Nigeria
23. A Super Eagles player will be involved in a ghastly motor accident - - nothing of such happened
24. Niger Bridge needs urgent attention, collapse is imminent - Niger bridge didnt collapse in 2014
25. Oba of Benin, oh we need to pray - this is not a prophesy, its a tricky statement, just like saying, nairaland, oh we need shoes
26. A northern leader, SGF, Chief of Staff will be among those in the team negotiating on the president's behalf because he will be told to step down but will not - lol, this didnt happen.
27. I like jonathan's gentle nature but he is surrounded by wrong people - this is a statement not a prophesy
28. Obasanjo should shut up, he will have problem - has none, in fact he launched a book this year and kissed a #bringBackOurgirls celebrity
29. Olumba Olumba olu will have serious problems - they had none
30. Republic of Benin will mourn a past leader - lol
31. Many christians looking for babies will have babies this year - this is not prophesy, its just like saying many white men will travel this year.
32. Ikonjo Iweala will have serious problems - She didn't even have a single problem this year, she is still rocking wella
33. Stella Oduah will have problems. - What problems?
34. Another plane crash . Eminent personalities involved. - Normal thing, planes crash every year, unfortunately there was no major one that killed eminent personalities this year
35. Kidnap to be more common in the west - not true. There was almost no recorded kidnap cases in the west this year. East and south south still leading.
36. Third mainland bridge needs fresh touch. - This is a statement not a prophesy and by the way, nothing happened to the bridge in 2014
37. All service Chiefs will be fired. - Jonathan has fired all service chiefs more than four times since he became president. He just keeps rotating cabinet. So whats the point?
38. Oyo and Ogun state governors, I don't see them coming back. If they can pray hard, mercy may smile at them but, I see them go home.
39. Nollywood needs to pray and cancel death. I see four people. A list among them. - Lol, people die everyday, eventually some of them will be nollywood artistes, so whats the point?
40. Ghana president will be betrayed by friends - didn't happen
41. Governors and senators will leave PDP. - story for the gods, this is not a prophesy, its just like saying a woman will give birth. People have been leaviing pdp since time immemorial.
42. The Northern candidates against president Jonathan will be two majorly. - Not true. PDP states are still majority.
43. We should pray against Nigeria break up. - This is not prophesy, its a statement.
46. I saw a colenel in the military trying to stage a coup but he will fail. - lol , didnt happen
47. The economy of Nigeria will go worse but true Christians will prosper. - Vague, Dangote and half of those rich senators and governors are not christians. The ones that are, are not even 'good' christians.
48. NTA needs prayers. I saw them crying over the loss of one of their bosses and fire out break in one of the stations - didnt happen, no loss of bosses, no fire out break.

49. Obiano, the governor elect of Anambra will face serious problems because God is unhappy with the way he was declared governor. - Didnt happen, dude is balling on buggati and painting onitsha with gold

51. I see fuel scarcity - didn't happen in 2014
52. PENGASSAN and NUPENG Needs prayers - not a prophesy, its a statement
53. A popular king in niger delta will die - lol , didnt happen
54. Serious crisis in the north will attract foreign help - didnt happen. Britain stopped their plane, America refused to sell us arms.

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Everybody sha wants to debunk pastors, any man of God that stands as a threat to my beliefs, I will just open a debunking thread. Kudos to sirjohn who set the pace. Am thinking of opening a thread debunking moderrator. Mtcheeeew.

Hmmmm. Prophets everywhere

Prophesy just dey right themselves left right and Centre.

And yet some people are waiting for it instead of taking things into their own hands.

Religion.. Chai

Do you really believe in prayers? Do you know prayer changes things? When a MOG said 'pray' he believes in prays and its potency. It didn't happen because God heard the prayers of His people. I wouldn't know the joy you derive, seeing all these prophecies come to pass. Eg.You want the Oba of Benin dead, are you his first son? Finally, the way God works, man in all his wisdom cannot comprehend. Love.

Conditional prophecies are untestable; if it comes to pass, it was prophesied of, if it fails to come to pass, people prayed. You can never go wrong with these

The real deal are the unconditional prophetic utterances.
Here is the thing, unconditional prophecies cannot be stopped; they must come to pass or you are a false prophet
Under unconditional statements, we MUST dismiss vague statements or generalities which can be gleaned from contemporary circumstances. Examples;
1. Politicians bickering- this is guaranteed
2. Air crash- we MUST have some any year
3. Death of a member of a group- entertainers,politicians....at least one must die
4. Terrorist attacks- predictable based on the recent history say of East Africa or BH

The solution is to go down to specifics on these generalities. if it is an air crash, ID the airliner or the country and the casualties. For death, ID the person and so forth

With due respect to the men of God and Holy Spirit, these are not prophecies but intelligent guesses which can be made by ANYBODY without the Holy Spirit.

Prophets of 2014 use two escape routes to get away with failure;
1. God delayed it
2. God repented/changed his mind

Common scriptures include Hezekiah bargaining with God as well as Jonah. But the frequency with which these are invoked leaves us having a God who is indecisive, not sure what He wants. In Jonah's case, it took an entire city repenting to stem the imminent destruction. In Hezekiah's case, God simply healed him from a disease that could have killed him.

cc Moderrator, PaulGrundy,todayguest

You were intendi g to rubbished the prohecies of the Man Of God

vooks:
Conditional prophecies are untestable; if it comes to pass, it was prophesied of, if it fails to come to pass, people prayed. You can never go wrong with these

The real deal are the unconditional prophetic utterances.
Here is the thing, unconditional prophecies cannot be stopped; they must come to pass or you are a false prophet
Under unconditional statements, we MUST dismiss vague statements or generalities which can be gleaned from contemporary circumstances. Examples;
1. Politicians bickering- this is guaranteed
2. Air crash- we MUST have some any year
3. Death of a member of a group- entertainers,politicians....at least one must die
4. Terrorist attacks- predictable based on the recent history say of East Africa or BH

The solution is to go down to specifics on these generalities. if it is an air crash, ID the airliner or the country and the casualties. For death, ID the person and so forth

With due respect to the men of God and Holy Spirit, these are not prophecies but intelligent guesses which can be made by ANYBODY without the Holy Spirit.

Prophets of 2014 use two escape routes to get away with failure;
1. God delayed it
2. God repented/changed his mind

Common scriptures include Hezekiah bargaining with God as well as Jonah. But the frequency with which these are invoked leaves us having a God who is indecisive, not sure what He wants. In Jonah's case, it took an entire city repenting to stem the imminent destruction. In Hezekiah's case, God simply healed him from a disease that could have killed him.

cc Moderrator, PaulGrundy,todayguest

on point.

vooks:
Conditional prophecies are untestable; if it comes to pass, it was prophesied of, if it fails to come to pass, people prayed. You can never go wrong with these

The real deal are the unconditional prophetic utterances.
Here is the thing, unconditional prophecies cannot be stopped; they must come to pass or you are a false prophet
Under unconditional statements, we MUST dismiss vague statements or generalities which can be gleaned from contemporary circumstances. Examples;
1. Politicians bickering- this is guaranteed
2. Air crash- we MUST have some any year
3. Death of a member of a group- entertainers,politicians....at least one must die
4. Terrorist attacks- predictable based on the recent history say of East Africa or BH

The solution is to go down to specifics on these generalities. if it is an air crash, ID the airliner or the country and the casualties. For death, ID the person and so forth

With due respect to the men of God and Holy Spirit, these are not prophecies but intelligent guesses which can be made by ANYBODY without the Holy Spirit.

Prophets of 2014 use two escape routes to get away with failure;
1. God delayed it
2. God repented/changed his mind

Common scriptures include Hezekiah bargaining with God as well as Jonah. But the frequency with which these are invoked leaves us having a God who is indecisive, not sure what He wants. In Jonah's case, it took an entire city repenting to stem the imminent destruction. In Hezekiah's case, God simply healed him from a disease that could have killed him.

cc Moderrator, PaulGrundy,todayguest

I perfectly understood the point you made. But then you missed out something a sizeable portion of his generalities are not based on future events or anything related to the subject of prediction. E.g see his prophecy number 19.

19. Dangote will not have it smooth this year, he will drop from Africa's richest.

Dangote is doing very fine presently, he is head strong, Nothing has hinted a possible bad omen for him for years to come, so we can say his generalization was not based on anything! That might be proof that it was not guessed. Its occurence would now validate the prediction. It takes an extremely good guesser to do that. As for the bolded, its proof would be in its pudding. Whether the man is doing guess work oh, or he was truly told by god, I don't care! All I can say is that the guy is good.

paulGrundy:


I perfectly understood the point you made. But then you missed out something a sizeable portion of his generalities are not based on future events or anything related to the subject of prediction. E.g see his prophecy number 19.

19. Dangote will not have it smooth this year, he will drop from Africa's richest.

Dangote is doing very fine presently, he is head strong, Nothing has hinted a possible bad omen for him for years to come, so we can say his generalization was not based on anything! That might be proof that it was not guessed. Its occurence would now validate the prediction. It takes an extremely good guesser to do that. As for the bolded, its proof would be in its pudding. Whether the man is doing guess work oh, or he was truly told by god, I don't care! All I can say is that the guy is good.

Actually dangote dropped $7b last year as naira value decreases.
Its then simple to predict he will drop further since naira value isn't returning aNY time soon

If you heard some of these statements without any bias, you would not call them prophetic, it is more like predicting earthquakes along fault lines.

'Good' is all about specifics. Any single specific thing you have heard him accurately predict or prophesy? probably none. How about specifics that were epic fails?

be honest as you respond

paulGrundy:


I perfectly understood the point you made. But then you missed out something a sizeable portion of his generalities are not based on future events or anything related to the subject of prediction. E.g see his prophecy number 19.

19. Dangote will not have it smooth this year, he will drop from Africa's richest.

Dangote is doing very fine presently, he is head strong, Nothing has hinted a possible bad omen for him for years to come, so we can say his generalization was not based on anything! That might be proof that it was not guessed. Its occurence would now validate the prediction. It takes an extremely good guesser to do that. As for the bolded, its proof would be in its pudding. Whether the man is doing guess work oh, or he was truly told by god, I don't care! All I can say is that the guy is good.

moderatorr1:


Actually dangote dropped $7b last year as naira value decreases.
Its then simple to predict he will drop further since naira value isn't returning aNY time soon

Must you tell lies to support your point Why are you so desperate to discredit johnson sulieman? What did he do to you to deserve all this?

Dangotes net worth as at november 2013 was $16.1 billion dollars. As at november last year 2014 his worth stands at $21.6 billion dollars. What does that tell you? His wealth increased by 34.16% over a 1 year period.

http://www.forbes.com/profile/aliko-dangote/

Try harder at telling lies. Mtcheew.