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The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by oaroloye(m): 7:17am On Feb 14, 2017
THE MOODY HERESY.

SHALOM!

The biggest lie in modern Christian Religion is that GOD LOVES THE WORLD.

There is no Scripture in the entire Bible that says that, but the Evangelical and Pentecostal Proselytizing Denominations just SAY that there is, and recruits to Christianity just go along with it, because that is what Hypocrites like to hear.

This FALSE IDEA is the basis of the BIG-FOR-NOTHING swelling of Church ranks. It makes MASS EVANGELISM possible- causing recruitment of literally ONE HUNDRED TIMES more New "Christians" than when THE TRUTH about God and His Attitude toward the World is preached.

I have written concisely on the American Origin of this heinous deception.

There is also the issue that none of you know what The Bible actually means by the term "LOVE" at all- nor do you want to find out.

The only way that you can solve your problems with God and Religion is by confronting your False Ideas about Christianity- not by pretending that they don't exist.

Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by emmahardgun(m): 7:28am On Feb 14, 2017
JOHN 3VS 16 ..FOR GOD SO LOVE THE WORLD THAT GIVETH US IS BELONGING SON THAT WHO EVER BELIVES IN HIM...

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Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by respect80(m): 7:42am On Feb 14, 2017
Kill yourself if you like.
God is God and will always be God.

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Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by respect80(m): 7:42am On Feb 14, 2017
Kill yourself if you like.
God is God and will always be God.

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Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by oaroloye(m): 7:49am On Feb 14, 2017
SHALOM!

emmahardgun:
JOHN 3VS 16 ..FOR GOD SO LOVE THE WORLD THAT GIVETH US IS BELONGING SON THAT WHO EVER BELIVES IN HIM...

If you are using a SmartPhone, you should have a Bible App. Import Scriptures from there.

Your quotation is so messed-up, I cannot believe that you are any sort of Christian, with any respect for God or Yahshua.

Even if JOHN 3:16 says what you think it says, no one should rely on that, because of the lazy, uncaring way you rendered the words of the man who gave his life for you.

Did you know that the Ancients memorized everything their Prophets said, and could recall them exactly, decades later?

But YOU could not even memorize ONE verse- which is the most popular verse in the entire Bible!

If you could not render this simple statement correctly, how can you possibly judge the more complex issues?

You do not even bother to state WHY you are citing THAT verse out-of-context like that. Is THE GOSPEL your RELIGION, or your HOBBY?

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Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by oaroloye(m): 7:57am On Feb 14, 2017
SHALOM!

respect80:
Kill yourself if you like.

God is God and will always be God.

WHAT IS THE RELEVANCE OF THAT SILLY REMARK?

If someone were killing themselves, is THAT what you would say to them?

Is that what you should say?

GOD BEING GOD HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THOSE WHO CANNOT ACCESS HIS RESOURCES.

The Martyrs in the meme died under the DECEPTION that DWIGHT LYMAN MOODY perpetrated: THAT GOD LOVED THEM- though He was doing NOTHING to save their lives.

Many Christians ignore their examples, and expect that their own fate would be different- as if God loved them better than those dead at the hands of ISIS and similar.

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Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by oaroloye(m): 8:09am On Feb 14, 2017
respect80:
Kill yourself if you like.

God is God and will always be God.

You said that already.

(Was it a Network Error? I hate when that happens.)
Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by respect80(m): 8:26am On Feb 14, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



WHAT IS THE RELEVANCE OF THAT SILLY REMARK?

If someone were killing themselves, is THAT what you would say to them?

Is that what you should say?

GOD BEING GOD HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THOSE WHO CANNOT ACCESS HIS RESOURCES.

The Martyrs in the meme died under the DECEPTION that DWIGHT LYMAN MOODY perpetrated: THAT GOD LOVED THEM- though He was doing NOTHING to save their lives.

Many Christians ignore their examples, and expect that their own fate would be different- as if God loved them better than those dead at the hands of ISIS and similar.

Well said my guy.
But talking of life and death for the martyrs it depends on what you take to be life and what they see as life so in a similar sense THE BELIEF IN THE NON EXISTENCE OF GOD HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIS EXISTENCE.
Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by StephenJobs(m): 8:58am On Feb 14, 2017
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Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by oaroloye(m): 10:24am On Feb 14, 2017
respect80:


Well said my guy.
But talking of life and death for the martyrs it depends on what you take to be life and what they see as life so in a similar sense THE BELIEF IN THE NON EXISTENCE OF GOD HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIS EXISTENCE.

THE UNBELIEF OF UNBELIEVERS is highly Relevant to BELIEVERS, because these are the people who are going to terminate their lives, if they are not strong enough in The LORD, and in The Power of His Might.

The lack of Faith of Unbelievers and Hypocrites is why TRUE CHRISTIANS must WORK HARDER to find better ways to Save them and Heal them.

. MATTHEW 5:1-20.

AND seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain:
and when he was set, his Disciples came unto him:
2. And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3. "Blessed are the poor in spirit:
for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven.
4. "Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5. "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the Earth.
6. "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after Righteousness:
for they shall be filled.
7. "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8. "Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9. "Blessed are the Peacemakers:
for they shall be called The Children of God.
10. "Blessed are they which are persecuted
for righteousness' sake:
for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven.
11. "Blessed are ye, when men
shall revile you, and persecute you,
and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely,
for my sake.
12. "Rejoice, and be exceeding glad:
for Great is your Reward in Heaven:
for so persecuted they the Prophets
which were before you.
13. "Ye are the Salt of the Earth:
but if the salt have lost his savour,
wherewith shall it be salted?
it is thenceforth good for nothing,
but to be cast out,
and to be trodden under foot of men.
14. "Ye are the Light of the World.
A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15. "Neither do men light a candle,
and put it under a bushel,
but on a candlestick;
and it giveth light
unto all that are in the house.
16. “Let your light so shine before men,
that they may see your good works,
and glorify your Father Which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
to destroy The Law, or The Prophets:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I say unto you,


'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE SHALL IN NO WISE
PASS FROM THE LAW,
TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'


19. "Whosoever therefore shall break one
of these least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called The Least
in The Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do and teach them,
the same shall be called Great
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I say unto you,


'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED (THE RIGHTEOUSNESS)
OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' "

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Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by urheme: 10:35am On Feb 14, 2017
oaroloye:
THE MOODY HERESY.

SHALOM!

The biggest lie in modern Christian Religion is that GOD LOVES THE WORLD.

There is no Scripture in the entire Bible that says that, but the Evangelical and Pentecostal Proselytizing Denominations just SAY that there is, and recruits to Christianity just go along with it, because that is what Hypocrites like to hear.

This FALSE IDEA is the basis of the BIG-FOR-NOTHING swelling of Church ranks. It makes MASS EVANGELISM possible- causing recruitment of literally ONE HUNDRED TIMES more New "Christians" than when THE TRUTH about God and His Attitude toward the World is preached.

I have written concisely on the American Origin of this heinous deception.

There is also the issue that none of you know what The Bible actually means by the term "LOVE" at all- nor do you want to find out.

The only way that you can solve your problems with God and Religion is by confronting your False Ideas about Christianity- not by pretending that they don't exist.


What are you going to achieve with this post ......whether God Loves the world or not, how does it affect you or stops you from living your life

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Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by respect80(m): 11:04am On Feb 14, 2017
oaroloye:


THE UNBELIEF OF UNBELIEVERS is highly Relevant to BELIEVERS, because these are the people who are going to terminate their lives, if they are not strong enough in The LORD, and in The Power of His Might.

The lack of Faith of Unbelievers and Hypocrites is why TRUE CHRISTIANS must WORK HARDER to find better ways to Save them and Heal them.

. MATTHEW 5:1-20.

AND seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain:
and when he was set, his Disciples came unto him:
2. And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3. "Blessed are the poor in spirit:
for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven.
4. "Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5. "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the Earth.
6. "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after Righteousness:
for they shall be filled.
7. "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8. "Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9. "Blessed are the Peacemakers:
for they shall be called The Children of God.
10. "Blessed are they which are persecuted
for righteousness' sake:
for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven.
11. "Blessed are ye, when men
shall revile you, and persecute you,
and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely,
for my sake.
12. "Rejoice, and be exceeding glad:
for Great is your Reward in Heaven:
for so persecuted they the Prophets
which were before you.
13. "Ye are the Salt of the Earth:
but if the salt have lost his savour,
wherewith shall it be salted?
it is thenceforth good for nothing,
but to be cast out,
and to be trodden under foot of men.
14. "Ye are the Light of the World.
A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15. "Neither do men light a candle,
and put it under a bushel,
but on a candlestick;
and it giveth light
unto all that are in the house.
16. “Let your light so shine before men,
that they may see your good works,
and glorify your Father Which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
to destroy The Law, or The Prophets:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I say unto you,


'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE SHALL IN NO WISE
PASS FROM THE LAW,
TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'


19. "Whosoever therefore shall break one
of these least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called The Least
in The Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do and teach them,
the same shall be called Great
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I say unto you,


'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED (THE RIGHTEOUSNESS)
OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' "
I see no need for you to quote these many verses from the Bible because they won't mean anything to you with the mindset with which you read them.
Meanwhile ;
Don't you think that the belief in science to be the most reliable source of knowledge requires faith? cos based on the scientific point of view you don't just believe something literally which means there must be a proof to anything you say or believe therefore if not by faith the fact that science is the most reliable source of knowledge should have only been accepted if scientists have answer to everything in the universe. So don't just throw faith out of the picture when talking about beliefs.
Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by oaroloye(m): 1:55pm On Feb 14, 2017
SHALOM!

StephenJobs:
Dude, whatever u like say, like the other guy said, ".......God will still remain God"....am adding this, whatever u do or say can never add or reduce the POWER OF GOD...the wisdow of man is foolishness before God, u just can't fill one drum with all the water from the oceans, n that's how impossible it is for man to fully understand how God works.....Get over it bro, u can't fully understand God plan n purpose or action or his 'whys' n 'why not', God no b man way u go study n understand his action.......

Your comment contains 99 words.
Ten of these were not proper words.

You wrote "be" for "be" once.

You wrote "u" for "you"(?) five times.

You wrote "n" for "and"(?) four times.

You misspelled the word "wisdom"(?)

The personal pronoun "I" was omitted from the phrase "am adding this."

If you were courting a girl, whom you wanted to take you seriously, would you text her a Saint Valentine's Day Message so sloppily?

If you were applying for a high-paying job at a prestigious company, would you write your application letter like that?

The sloppiness of your writing tells the World about the state of your mind.

In the case of your assimilation of The Word of God, we should expect to find distortions of whatever you heard or read- words altered from their original spellings, and their original meanings, and garbage substituted instead.

How can someone who does not even understand English pronounce on what the Servants of God can or cannot know, do, or cannot do?

whatever u do or say can never add or reduce the POWER OF GOD

Well, YAHSHUA said, blasting the Scribes and Pharisees:

. MATTHEW 15:1-14.

THEN came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees,
which were of Jerusalem,
saying,
2. “Why do thy Disciples transgress the Tradition of the Elders?
For they wash not their hands when they eat bread.”
3. But he answered and said unto them,
“Why do ye also transgress
The Commandment of God by your Tradition?
4. “For God Commanded, saying,


'HONOUR THY FATHER AND MOTHER:'

and,

'HE THAT CURSETH FATHER OR MOTHER,
LET HIM DIE THE DEATH.'


5. “But ye say,

'WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY TO HIS FATHER OR HIS MOTHER,
IT IS A GIFT, BY WHATSOEVER THOU
MIGHTEST BE PROFITED BY ME;
6. 'AND HONOUR NOT HIS FATHER OR HIS MOTHER,
HE SHALL BE FREE.'


“Thus have ye made The Commandment of God
of none effect by your Tradition.
7. "Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias Prophesy of you, saying,


8. 'THIS PEOPLE DRAWETH NIGH UNTO ME
WITH THEIR MOUTH,
AND HONOURETH ME WITH THEIR LIPS;
BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME.
9. 'BUT IN VAIN THEY DO WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES
THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.' "


10. And he called the multitude, and said unto them,
Hear, and understand:


11. 'NOT THAT WHICH
GOETH INTO THE MOUTH
DEFILETH A MAN;
BUT THAT WHICH COMETH
OUT OF THE MOUTH,
THIS DEFILETH A MAN.'


12. Then came his Disciples,
and said unto him,
"Knowest thou
that the Pharisees were offended,
after they heard this Saying?"
13. But he answered and said,
"Every plant,
which my Heavenly Father
hath not planted,
shall be rooted up.
14. "Let them alone:
they be blind leaders of the blind.
And if the blind lead the blind,
both shall fall into the ditch."


ALL OF THE POWER OF GOD WAS USELESS TO THE ISRAELITES OF YAHSHUA'S GENERATION, BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THEIR RELIGIOUS LEADERS SAID, THAT RENDERED THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD USELESS.

Another illustration of this point:

. MATTHEW 17:14-21.

14. And when they were come to the Multitude,
there came to him a certain man,
kneeling down to him,
and saying,
15. "Lord, have Mercy on my son:
for he is lunatick,
and sore vexed:
for ofttimes he falleth into the Fire,
and oft into the Water.
16. And I brought him to thy Disciples,
and they could not cure him."
17. Then Jesus answered and said,
"O Faithless and perverse Generation,
how long shall I be with you?
How long shall I suffer you?
Bring him hither to me.”
18. And Jesus rebuked the Devil;
and he departed out of him:
and the child was cured from that very Hour.
19. Then came the Disciples to Jesus apart,
and said,
"Why could not we cast him out?"
20. And Jesus said unto them,
"Because of your Unbelief:
for verily I say unto you,


'IF YE HAVE FAITH
AS A GRAIN OF MUSTARD SEED,
YE SHALL SAY UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,


"REMOVE HENCE TO YONDER PLACE;"

AND IT SHALL REMOVE;
AND NOTHING SHALL BE IMPOSSIBLE
UNTO YOU.'


21. "Howbeit this kind goeth not out
but by Prayer and Fasting."


THE BOY'S FATHER HAD BEEN LIVING WITH HIS SON'S CONDITION FOR YEARS- YET HE AND HIS FRIENDS WERE READY TO STONE YAHSHUA'S DISCIPLES, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SOLVE THE CASE IN A FEW MINUTES.

If they were so concerned, why hadn't they done it themselves?

The means of doing so were in their hands from their own childhoods:

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this Day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore choose Life,
That both thou and thy seed may live:
20. That thou mayest love the LORD thy God,
and that thou mayest obey His Voice,
and that thou mayest cleave unto Him:
for He is thy life, and the length of thy days:
that thou mayest dwell in the Land
which the LORD sware unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.


IF HE HAD OBEYED THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD BY MOSES TO "CHOOSE LIFE," HE WOULD HAVE LEARNED HOW TO SAVE HIS OWN SON HIS OWN SELF.

It is a natural progression.

. DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9.

4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy Might.
6. And These Words,
Which I Command thee this Day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach them
diligently unto thy Children,
and shalt talk of them
when thou sittest in thine house,
and when thou walkest by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.


YAHWEH GOD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DEMANDS THAT HIS WORSHIPPERS USE THEIR WHOLE BEING- THEIR WHOLE HEART, THEIR WHOLE MINDS, THEIR WHOLE STRENGTH- TO SERVE HIM.

The maximum power of a Human is achieved by maximal use of what one already has.

This will cause the boundaries holding us back to expand and expand, until they burst the limits of Humanity, and we enter into a completely new State of Being. Saying that Human beings will always have limits is like saying that a bird offspring will never get out of its egg, and fly in the sky- because that is not possible for an embryo.

Whereas, every bird in the sky has gone through that stage of their life, where the eggshell was an important limitation to them- until the day that it wasn't.

Everyone who knows about birds knows this example- I wonder why they don't think to apply it to themselves?

How old are you, that you are still talking about "impossibilities?"

the wisdow of man is foolishness before God,

Who told you that?

There is no place in The Bible that says that.

See what I meant about your mind changing Scripture, because of your lack of Mental Discipline?

. DANIEL 12:10.

10. "Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried;
but the Wicked shall do wickedly:
and none of the wicked shall understand;
but the Wise shall understand."


DOES GOD CALL THIS WISDOM "FOOLISHNESS?"

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law and The Prophets.
13. "Enter ye in at the Strait Gate:
for Wide is the Gate, and Broad is the Way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be which go in thereat:
14. "Because Strait is the Gate,
and Narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life,
and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their Fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns,
or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every good tree
bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a corrupt tree bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fruit.
19. "Every Tree that bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down,
and cast into The Fire.
20. "Wherefore by their Fruits ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one
that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,'
shall enter into
The Kingdom of Heaven;
but he that doeth The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22. "Many will say to me in That Day,


'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'


23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'


24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
these Sayings of mine,
and doeth them,
I will liken him unto a Wise Man,
which built his House upon a Rock:
25. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that House;
and it Fell not:
for it was founded upon a Rock.
26. "And every one
that heareth these Sayings of mine,
and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto a Foolish Man,
which built his house upon the Sand:
27. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that House;
and it Fell:
and Great was The Fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended these Sayings,
the People were astonished at his Doctrine:
29. For he Taught them
as One having Authority,
and not as the scribes.


RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD, GOD HAS ALWAYS REPRESENTED HIMSELF AS A BEING WHO COULD BE UNDERSTOOD BY HUMAN WISDOM. Therefore, He is Wroth with those who PRETEND that they do not understand what he wants, and what they should do for Him.

This is the basis of Yahshua's Parables: he illustrates that GOD'S FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES are IN AGREEMENT with HUMAN WISDOM.

Not the Wisdom of some "SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN BEINGS" beyond what Human beings could ever achieve- giving themselves STROKES or HEART-ATTACKS, should they even TRY.

But good, old-fashioned COMMONSENSE!

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He said,

'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT (IS) WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL
(IS) UNDERSTANDING.' "


If someone like you tells us that Human Wisdom cannot Understand God, you are telling us that YOU NEVER FEARED GOD, and that YOU NEVER DEPARTED FROM EVIL.

. DANIEL 11:32.

32. And such as do wickedly against the Covenant
shall he corrupt by flatteries:
but the people that do know their God
shall be strong, and do exploits.


WHO TOLD YOU THAT TO CONTAIN THE ENTIRE OCEANS IN A BARREL IS IMPOSSIBLE?

If a feat like that is impossible, then YAHSHUA LIED- Because HE SAID that to the person who has the smallest unit of FAITH, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE.

Therefore, you have disproven your own silly idea, that by words, one cannot reduce The Power of God- because that is exactly what you did there.

THOSE WHO HAVE SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING KNOW THAT YOU CONTAINING THE OCEAN IN A BARREL IS NOTHING.

In fact, you do not NEED a "BARREL;" a TEACUP, or a THIMBLE will do just as well.

All you have to do is collect some SEAWATER in ANY receptacle- and THERE, you HAVE the ENTIRE OCEAN.

Of course, we have to explain that to the WICKED and IGNORANT people:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "PART" OF ANYTHING; AN OBJECT IS EITHER THE WHOLE THING, OR ELSE IT IS NONE OF IT.

This is what makes FIRE and WATER very useful and very dangerous Entities indeed- all FIRE is CONNECTED to ALL Fire, and all WATER is CONNECTED to ALL Waters.

The Devils were trying to kill the boy in Fire or Water because his death there would give them the energy to open a Portal to the Fire or the Water on another World they wanted to go to.

This lore pertains to the Interpretation of THE PARABLE OF THE POUNDS.

But whosoever will be ignorant, let them remain ignorant.

. LUKE 10:17-24.

17. And the seventy returned again with joy, saying,
"Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us
through thy Name."
18. And he said unto them,
"I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven.
19. "Behold, I give unto you Power
to tread on Serpents and Scorpions,
and over all the Power of the Enemy:
and nothing shall by any means hurt you."
20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not,
that the spirits are subject unto you;
but rather rejoice, because your Names
are written in Heaven."
21. In that Hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said,
"I thank thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and Earth,
that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto babes:
even so, Father; for so it seemed good in Thy Sight.
22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father:
and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father;
and Who the Father is, but the Son,
and he to whom the Son will reveal him."
23. And he turned him unto his Disciples, and said privately,
"Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see:
24. "For I tell you,


'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' "


Yahshua Taught us to KNOW HIM, and KNOW HIS FATHER- the ONLY Way by which He can be known.

The ROGUE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH has NEVER wanted ANYONE to know GOD- inside or outside of their accursed System- therefore, they send their UNDERCOVER AGENTS AND ASSETS to spread the PROPAGANDA that we serve an UNREASONABLE and INCOMPREHENSIBLE GOD, Whom we cannot possibly UNDERSTAND.

Whereas, such Understanding is THE ENTIRE GOAL of THE GOSPEL.

. JOHN 14:1-9.

"LET not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God,
believe also in me.
2. "In my Father's House are many Mansions:
if it were not so, I would have told you.
I go to prepare a place for you.
3. "And if I go and prepare a place for you,
I will come again, and receive you unto myself;
that where I am, there ye may be also.
4. "And whither I go ye know,
and The Way ye know."
5. Thomas saith unto him,
"Lord, we know not whither thou goest;
and how can we know The Way?"
6. Jesus saith unto him,
"I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7. "If ye had known me,
ye should have Known my Father also:
and from henceforth ye Know Him,
and have seen Him."
8. Philip saith unto him,
"Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us."
9. Jesus saith unto him,
"Have I been so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?
he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;
and how sayest thou then,


'SHEW US THE FATHER?' "

. 1st JOHN 2:3-6.

3. And hereby we do know
that we know him,


"IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS."

4. He that saith,

"I KNOW HIM,"

and keepeth not his Commandments,
is a liar,
and The Truth is not in him.
5. But whoso keepeth his Word,
in him verily is The Love of God perfected:
hereby know we that we are in him.
6. He that saith he abideth in him
ought himself also so to walk,
even as he walked.


HOW CAN WE KNOW YAHWEH GOD?

By knowing His Son, YAHSHUA.

HOW DO WE KNOW YAHSHUA?

By keeping his Commandments.

. JOHN 8:30-32.

30. As he spake these words,
many believed on him.
31. Then said Jesus to those Jews
which believed on him,
"If ye continue in my Word,
then are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know The Truth,
and The Truth shall make you free."


WHO DOES NOT WANT US TO KNOW THE TRUTH THE MAKES US FREE?

MYSTERY BABYLON- our JAILER- the Servant of SATAN, of course!

Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by oaroloye(m): 3:22pm On Feb 14, 2017
SHALOM!

respect80:

I see no need for you to quote these many verses from the Bible because they won't mean anything to you with the mindset with which you read them.

YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN, SO YOU WON'T SEE ANYTHING.

Such as, that, since I am the one doing the quoting, the Scriptures obviously have significant meaning to ME.

Also since you do not quote any Scriptures yourself, Scripture has no meaning to you.

. DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6.

ALL The Commandments
which I Command thee this Day
shall ye observe to do,
that ye may live,
and multiply,
and go in and possess the Land
which The LORD
sware unto your fathers.
2. And thou shalt remember all the Way
which The LORD thy God led thee
these forty years in the wilderness,
to humble thee,
and to prove thee,
to know what was in thine heart,
whether thou wouldest
keep His Commandments,
or no.
3. And He humbled thee,
and suffered thee to hunger,
and fed thee with manna,
which thou knewest not,
neither did thy fathers know;
that He might make thee know


"THAT MAN DOTH NOT
LIVE BY BREAD ONLY,
BUT BY EVERY WORD
THAT PROCEEDETH
OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD
DOTH MAN LIVE."


4. Thy raiment waxed not old upon thee,
neither did thy foot swell, these forty years.
5. Thou shalt also consider in thine heart,


“THAT, AS A MAN
CHASTENETH HIS SON,
SO THE LORD THY GOD
CHASTENETH THEE.”


6. Therefore thou shalt keep
The Commandments of The LORD thy God,
to walk in His Ways, and to fear Him.


A WORSHIPPER OF GOD CAN NEVER COMPLAIN THAT SOMEONE WAS GIVING HIS SOUL "TOO MUCH FOOD."

. PROVERBS 27:17.

17. Iron sharpeneth iron;
so a man sharpeneth
the countenance of his friend.


Meanwhile ;
Don't you think that the belief in science to be the most reliable source of knowledge requires faith? cos based on the scientific point of view you don't just believe something literally which means there must be a proof to anything you say or believe therefore if not by faith the fact that science is the most reliable source of knowledge should have only been accepted if scientists have answer to everything in the universe. So don't just throw faith out of the picture when talking about beliefs.

THAT IS OFF-TOPIC- CONFIRMING THAT YOU ONLY CAME HERE TO DIVERT THE TOPIC AND DERAIL THE THREAD.

Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by respect80(m): 3:54pm On Feb 14, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN, SO YOU WON'T SEE ANYTHING.

Such as, that, since I am the one doing the quoting, the Scriptures obviously have significant meaning to ME.

Also since you do not quote any Scriptures yourself, Scripture has no meaning to you.

. DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6.

ALL The Commandments
which I Command thee this Day
shall ye observe to do,
that ye may live,
and multiply,
and go in and possess the Land
which The LORD
sware unto your fathers.
2. And thou shalt remember all the Way
which The LORD thy God led thee
these forty years in the wilderness,
to humble thee,
and to prove thee,
to know what was in thine heart,
whether thou wouldest
keep His Commandments,
or no.
3. And He humbled thee,
and suffered thee to hunger,
and fed thee with manna,
which thou knewest not,
neither did thy fathers know;
that He might make thee know


"THAT MAN DOTH NOT
LIVE BY BREAD ONLY,
BUT BY EVERY WORD
THAT PROCEEDETH
OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD
DOTH MAN LIVE."


4. Thy raiment waxed not old upon thee,
neither did thy foot swell, these forty years.
5. Thou shalt also consider in thine heart,


“THAT, AS A MAN
CHASTENETH HIS SON,
SO THE LORD THY GOD
CHASTENETH THEE.”


6. Therefore thou shalt keep
The Commandments of The LORD thy God,
to walk in His Ways, and to fear Him.


A WORSHIPPER OF GOD CAN NEVER COMPLAIN THAT SOMEONE WAS GIVING HIS SOUL "TOO MUCH FOOD."

. PROVERBS 27:17.

17. Iron sharpeneth iron;
so a man sharpeneth
the countenance of his friend.




THAT IS OFF-TOPIC- CONFIRMING THAT YOU ONLY CAME HERE TO DIVERT THE TOPIC AND DERAIL THE THREAD.

Divert the topic for what. You talked of how the Christian faith being a lie and and as an atheist I suppose you should or must believe in science to justify your claims and I'm letting you know that science itself requires faith in the acceptance of some of its theories
Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by Nobody: 4:31pm On Feb 14, 2017
See confusion galore.

Comedy central grin grin

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Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by Nobody: 4:32pm On Feb 14, 2017
See confusion galore.

Comedy central grin grin
Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by oaroloye(m): 7:01pm On Feb 14, 2017
respect80:


Divert the topic for what. You talked of how the Christian faith being a lie

I have done no such thing.

Show the quotation.

and and as an atheist

That proves that you are only here to sow confusion.

If you do not believe in God, why are you in a Religious Forum, commenting on matters far above your level of comprehension?
I suppose you should or must believe in science to justify your claims

This is a rhetorical device of Atheist Shills: you make a claim that is completely irrelevant to the thread, and to increase the confusion of readers, you do not quote what part of the Original Post you are alluding to, nor tell us what that is.

I made no such claims in this post, requiring Science of any kind to justify them.

I am talking about the False Teaching of DWIGHT LYMAN MOODY (1837-1899), who claimed that The Bible says that GOD LOVES THE WORLD" and that "GOD LOVES SINNERS," so that he could increase the number on converts in his church.

I made that very clear.

Your babbling about claims that need to be Scientifically verified has no relevance whatsoever.

I should suspect that you are being sponsored by persons and institutions that are threatened by the Truth coming out.

and I'm letting you know that science itself requires faith in the acceptance of some of its theories

That is not an interesting theory, and is completely irrelevant to the Original Post.

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Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by oaroloye(m): 5:30pm On Feb 16, 2017
Trippledee:


Mr copy and paste, We heard u loud and clear don't worry recession will soon over.

Every person will give account of every idle word they speak in The Day of Judgment.

"THE DAY OF JUDGMENT" is any day when you need The Blessing of God- and It is or is not granted you, because of what you have said.

Why mocking my copying of Scriptures?

Don't you know that many people have never seen them in their lives? Some people not only do not own their own Bibles, but their lives may be in jeopardy, should they be found in possession of any part of The Bible.

Just because you do not need someone to show you the Scriptures they refer to, that does not mean that other people do not need to see them for themselves.

If any Christians feel that this procedure is wrong, it is their duty to speak up and correct me. If they understand that this is the Right Way, they should be doing it themselves.

Who does not like commendation and encouragement? To withhold it from those who deserve it is a violation of The Commandment of God.
Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by otemdomino: 10:46pm On Apr 01, 2017
urheme:



What are you going to achieve with this post ......whether God Loves the world or not, how does it affect you or stops you from living your life

Even Oaroloye Is feeling it deep down that yahweh doesn't love the world. To confirm this, he(yahweh) commanded you guys not to love the world too.

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. For if any man loves the world, the love of yahweh(satan) is not in him. "
Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by otemdomino: 10:48pm On Apr 01, 2017
SirWere:
See confusion galore.

Comedy central grin grin
Confusion in the body of christ(crises) cheesy
Re: The Moody Heresy: The Biggest Lie In Christianity! by oaroloye(m): 12:34pm On Apr 02, 2017
otemdomino:
Even Oaroloye Is feeling it deep down that yahweh doesn't love the world. To confirm this, he(yahweh) commanded you guys not to love the world too.

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. For if any man loves the world, the love of yahweh(satan) is not in him. "

THAT IS NOT A COMMANDMENT OF YAHWEH GOD, BUT RATHER OF THE WICKED HYPOCRITE JOHN, WHO SPENT HIS LONG LIFE DENYING THE GOSPEL, SO THAT NO ONE COULD SURPASS HIM AND HIS FRIENDS.

. MATTHEW 5:38-48.

38. "Ye have heard
that it hath been said,


'AN EYE FOR AN EYE,
AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.'


39. "But I say unto you,

'THAT YE RESIST NOT EVIL:
BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL SMITE THEE
ON THY RIGHT CHEEK,
TURN TO HIM
THE OTHER ALSO.'


40. "And if any man
will sue thee at The Law,
and take away thy coat,
let him have (thy) cloke also.
41. "And whosoever shall compel thee
to go a mile,
go with him twain.
42. "Give to him that asketh thee,
and from him that would
borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43. "Ye have heard
that it hath been said,


'THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR
AND HATE THINE ENEMY.'


44. "But I say unto you,

'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES,
BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU,
DO GOOD TO THEM
THAT HATE YOU,
AND PRAY FOR THEM
WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU
AND PERSECUTE YOU.'


45. "That ye may be the Children
of your Father
Which is in Heaven:
for He maketh His Sun
to rise on the Evil
and on the Good,
and sendeth Rain
on the Just
and on the Unjust.
46. "For if ye love them
which love you,
what Reward have ye?
Do not even the Publicans
the same?
47. "And if ye salute your Brethren only,
what do ye more (than others)
Do not even the Publicans so?
48. "Be ye therefore Perfect,
even as your Father
Which is in Heaven
is Perfect."


. JOHN 12:44-50.

44. Jesus cried and said,.

"He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,
but on him that sent me.
45. "And he that seeth me
seeth him that sent me.
46. "I am come a Light
into the World,
that whosoever
believeth on me
should not abide
in Darkness.
47. And if any man
hear my Words,
and believe not,
I judge him not:
for I came not
to judge the World,
but to save the World.
48. "He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my Words,
hath One that judgeth him:
the Word that I have spoken,
the same shall judge him
in The Last Day.
49. "For I have not
spoken of myself;
but the Father
Which sent me,
he gave me a Commandment,
what I should say,
and what I should speak.
50. "And I know that
His Commandment
is Life Everlasting:
whatsoever I speak therefore,
even as The Father said unto me,
so I speak."


THIS IS THE WORD OF GOD THAT JOHN WAS MALICIOUSLY HIDING FROM THE CHURCH!

God LOVED the World- UNTIL HE SENT YAHSHUA- then, thereafter, He ONLY LOVED those who LOVE YAHSHUA HIS SON.

. JOHN 14:21-27.

21. "He that hath my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself
to him."
22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,
"Lord, how is it
that thou wilt
manifest thyself unto us,
and not unto the World?"
23. Jesus answered and said unto him,
"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and the Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's
Which sent me.
25. "These things
have I spoken unto you,
being yet present with you.
26. "But The Comforter,
Which is The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father will send
in my Name,
He shall teach you all things,
and bring all things
to your remembrance,
whatsoever I have said unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart
be troubled,
neither let it be afraid."


IT IS THROUGH THEM THAT GOD'S LOVE REACHES THE WORLD.

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