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Questions For Atheists by Maquiptarepzy: 6:36pm On Dec 27, 2014
What if juju wer real,will dat prove d existenc of a suprem being?...and if it doesnt,were do u tink dos powers come from?...pls assume dey wer real..wer do u tink d powers should come and will dat convince u about d existenc of some supernatural powers?
Re: Questions For Atheists by UrbanMystique: 7:04pm On Dec 27, 2014
it will only prove supernatural things not supreme being. and as we know, the so called supernatural things or jujus usually have explanation behind them.
not until supreme being comes out and prove that it is there.
Re: Questions For Atheists by plaetton: 7:08pm On Dec 27, 2014
Maquiptarepzy:
What if juju wer real,will dat prove d existenc of a suprem being?...and if it doesnt,were do u tink dos powers come from?...pls assume dey wer real..wer do u tink d powers should come and will dat convince u about d existenc of some supernatural powers?

There is nothing supernatural.
If juju is real, then it just a science, a higher physics not yet fully understood, in the same way that radio communications were not understood by ancient cavemen.
We can all agree that radio communication only proves the existence of the various frequencies of electromagmentic energy, and not in any way suggestive of the existence of a supreme being.

A supreme does not have to account for any or everything that we do no understand at this stage of our evolution.

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Re: Questions For Atheists by Maquiptarepzy: 7:16pm On Dec 27, 2014
plaetton:


There is nothing supernatural.
If juju is real, then it just a science, a higher physics not yet fully understood, in the same way that radio communications were not understood by ancient cavemen.
We can all agree that radio communication only proves the existence of the various frequencies of electromagmentic energy, and not in any way suggestive of the existence of a supreme being.

A supreme does not have to account for any or everything that we do no understand at this stage of our evolution.
ok,u mean dos ritualist using peopl for rituals understood and already discoverd dos physics ish?....do u tink peopl comin to dem for money rituals will still continue cmg der if it waznt working for dem?
Re: Questions For Atheists by Maquiptarepzy: 7:23pm On Dec 27, 2014
UrbanMystique:
it will only prove supernatural things not supreme being. and as we know, the so called supernatural things or jujus usually have explanation behind them.
not until supreme being comes out and prove that it is there.
rem juju az bin existing since d last century or more,and dos tins dat existed den dat luks supernatural az already bin explained using scienc...y iz dis 1 nw diff?y is der still no explanation for it?..at least av withnessd some cases in wich a thief waz repeatedly macheted without any slight injury or blood,does dat means hiz body iz a steel?.
Re: Questions For Atheists by asala1: 7:49pm On Dec 27, 2014
Maquiptarepzy:
rem juju az bin existing since d last century or more,and dos tins dat existed den dat luks supernatural az already bin explained using scienc...y iz dis 1 nw diff?y is der still no explanation for it?..at least av withnessd some cases in wich a thief waz repeatedly macheted without any slight injury or blood,does dat means hiz body iz a steel?.

Please, why can't you just write in simple plain English? This is a forum and not a chatting platform, it allows you to carry everyone along.
Re: Questions For Atheists by plaetton: 7:55pm On Dec 27, 2014
Maquiptarepzy:
ok,u mean dos ritualist using peopl for rituals understood and already discoverd dos physics ish?....do u tink peopl comin to dem for money rituals will still continue cmg der if it waznt working for dem?

The act itself is evil. Murder is evil.
Thinking that you can attract riches by murdering people is the highest form of selfishness and evil.
So, what they are attempting to do is the perversion of the symbolic ritual of sacrifice.

They are like a toddlers playing with live electrical wires.
If they remotely understood the higher physics of the laws of attraction or correspondence, they would never contemplate such ignorant and selfish evil.

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Re: Questions For Atheists by UrbanMystique: 11:09pm On Dec 27, 2014
Maquiptarepzy:
rem juju az bin existing since d last century or more,and dos tins dat existed den dat luks supernatural az already bin explained using scienc...y iz dis 1 nw diff?y is der still no explanation for it?..at least av withnessd some cases in wich a thief waz repeatedly macheted without any slight injury or blood,does dat means hiz body iz a steel?.
yeah yeah yeah... everyone has seen people got hacked with machete without a cut or have juju bulletproof but no one has been able to produce the person. just the same old rumor people keep spreading.
Re: Questions For Atheists by Kay17: 1:04am On Dec 28, 2014
Maquiptarepzy:
What if juju wer real,will dat prove d existenc of a suprem being?...and if it doesnt,were do u tink dos powers come from?...pls assume dey wer real..wer do u tink d powers should come and will dat convince u about d existenc of some supernatural powers?

It depends on how the supernatural is defined. The most common definition of supernatural is "that which is beyond our reality". By being beyond our reality, the supernatural cannon exist within our reality, we are incapable of experiencing what it would be.

Hence juju is unprovable.
Re: Questions For Atheists by AgentOfAllah: 5:45am On Dec 28, 2014
Maquiptarepzy:
What if juju wer real,will dat prove d existenc of a suprem being?...and if it doesnt,were do u tink dos powers come from?...pls assume dey wer real..wer do u tink d powers should come and will dat convince u about d existenc of some supernatural powers?

Op, we'll do a quick thought experiment, then I'll leave you to answer your question yourself.

First, let's define "supreme being": A supreme being is a being that has power over all things.

Now our thought experiment is as follows:

Supposing there is a metre rule which is firmly suspended on a rod at its exact centre and is fixed to the ground. This metre rule is 20m long. Let's call this rule R1. Of course, R1 is very useful for all distance measurements between 0 and 20m. Obviously, we expect R1 to start showing its limitations as soon as we attempt to measure a distance greater than 20m, say 45m

For this our new found appetite for measuring >20m distances, may we assume the existence of another metre rule, R2. R2 is 200m long, and it is suspended on a similar rod as R1, also at its exact centre, just above R1. Of course, we are now able to measure distances between 0 and 200m, so our problem is solved. Hence, R2 gives us a linear degree of freedom which is 10 times greater than that of R1, albeit still limited.

Now, let's pause and look at things from R1's frame of reference. R1 is looking up, and since it's a firmly fixed metre rule, it can only see and measure things in one dimension. What does R1 see? R1 sees R2, ever so long without edges. Now, we know that R2, though more "resourceful" than R1, is as a matter of course, limited.

Now, you tell me, is it possible for R1 to know the difference between a 200m long R2 and an infinitely long R2? Remember, it is firmly fixed. I'm sure you can now see where this is going. Given R1's limitation, it will not be able to tell the difference. For R1 to tell the difference, it will either have to be as long as R2 or longer. Now, under what circumstances will R1 ever be justified in assuming that R2 is infinitely long just because it cannot measure R2?

Now back to our starting point: Supposing humans are limited, and we all agree humans are, under what circumstances will a human be able to say "oh, since juju exists and it surpasses my powers, a supreme being must therefore exist"? So let me throw your question back at you: What if juju were real, will that prove the existence of a supreme being?
I hope you're better equipped to answer your question yourself.

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