menesheh:
Go and read your books and discover for yourself

Queed:
cc johnydon22

johnydon22:

lol..You know why no atheist have tried answering your question, its because the questions are just too many and many of us these days don't fancy going through the same questions everyday..

Anyway i will answer them shortly even tho some doesn't relate to the position of atheism.

Queed:



Too many?? or just too technical?

ok,,, let me make things easier, answer just 5

lmao i have answered most of them over a thousand times in this forum, in short they are not in the least technical or difficult...


5: Question 4 mentions that gravity and wind are not seen but yet again forgets or maybe purposely decided not to mention they can be measured, studied and observed.
Then question 5 employs this tactics with god, just like gravity can be measured and studied to substantiate, no theist has actually observed or stipulated a credible mechanism to measure god that is obvious to all just like gravity is. all we get are poorly worked claims and delusional assumptions.

So for the number 5 question, once this your concept of god has not be substantiated through an obvious means to add weight to it's credibility, it just remains a claim.
A flying black diamond unicorn has never been seen, can you say it does not exist? Nope you can't because it has not been substantiated that it exists meaning there is practically NOTHING to refute, it remains a claim. same goes to all the concepts of god(s) mankind has invented

Blossom023:
I have a question. atheist say wen we die we come back in another body nd continue life, nothing like hell or heaven, so how come you watch the road when crossing?

Hahahahahahaha which atheist said that exactly?? because am not sure that one is an atheist but quite right they are some atheists that are superstitious tho so i wouldn't be surprised after all atheism only implies disbelief in deities.

Anyway where did you hear the bolded

johnydon22:

Hahahahahahaha which atheist said that exactly?? because am not sure that one is an atheist but quite right they are some atheists that are superstitious tho so i wouldn't be surprised after all atheism only implies disbelief in deities.

Anyway where did you hear the bolded

Blossom023:


answer the qweshun.

ehen no be person wey drink tea wey go know say sugar no dey inside? no be person wey wear shoe go know wer d tin dey tight am? so you people that haven't gone to christ, the way people do, how do u know he doesn't exist?

If i say i understand this then am seriously lying
please reconstruct in plain English, illiterates like me don't quite comprehend such complex english ..lol..

johnydon22:
Death is absolute. . Just like you don't know where you are before you were conceived because you didn't exist , same way you wont know anything when you die because you no longer exist. .
If i say i understand this then am seriously lying
please reconstruct in plain English, illiterates like me don't quite comprehend such complex english ..lol..

Queed:
1. Are you absolutely sure there is no God? If not, then is it not possible that there is a God? And if it is possible that God exists, then can you think of any reason that would keep you from wanting to look at the evidence?

2. Would you agree that intelligently designed things call for an intelligent designer of them? If so, then would you agree that evidence for intelligent design in the universe would be evidence for a designer of the universe?

3. Would you agree that nothing cannot produce something? If so, then if the universe did not exist but then came to exist, wouldn’t this be evidence of a cause beyond the universe?

4. Would you agree with me that just because we cannot see something with our eyes—such as our mind, gravity, magnetism, the wind—that does not mean it doesn’t exist?

5. Would you also agree that just because we cannot see God with our eyes does not necessarily mean He doesn’t exist?

6. In the light of the big bang evidence for the origin of the universe, is it more reasonable to believe that no one created something out of nothing or someone created something out of nothing?

7. Would you agree that something presently exists? If something presently exists, and something cannot come from nothing, then would you also agree that something must have always existed?

8. If it takes an intelligent being to produce an encyclopedia, then would it not also take an intelligent being to produce the equivalent of 1000 sets of an encyclopedia full of information in the first one-celled animal? (Even atheists such as Richard Dawkins acknowledges that “amoebas have as much information in their DNA as 1000 Encyclopaedia Britannicas.” Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker (New York: WW. Norton and Co., 1996), 116.)

9. If an effect cannot be greater than its cause (since you can’t give what you do not have to give), then does it not make more sense that mind produced matter than that matter produced mind, as atheists say?

10. Is there anything wrong anywhere? If so, how can we know unless there is a moral law?

11. If every law needs a lawgiver, does it not make sense to say a moral law needs a Moral Lawgiver?

12. Would you agree that if it took intelligence to make a model universe in a science lab, then it took super-intelligence to make the real universe?

13. Would you agree that it takes a cause to make a small glass ball found in the woods? And would you agree that making the ball larger does not eliminate the need for a cause? If so, then doesn’t the biggest ball of all (the whole universe) need a cause?

14. If there is a cause beyond the whole finite (limited) universe, would not this cause have to be beyond the finite, namely, non-finite or infinite?

15. In the light of the anthropic principle (that the universe was fine-tuned for the emergence of life from its very inception), wouldn’t it make sense to say there was an intelligent being who preplanned human life?

Blossom023:


pfft not a straight forward answer.

you say God doesn't exist ryh? ok. when you take a bite of an apple, it is you who will know if its sour. same way when you wear a shoe you will know how tight it is, So my question is how do u know God doesn't exist? have you tried? people say they accept christ and follow his way. have you tried that ?

Johnydon22: 5: Question 4 mentions that gravity and wind are not seen but yet again
forgets or maybe purposely decided not to mention they can be measured,
studied and observed.
Then question 5 employs this tactics with god, just like gravity can be
measured and studied to substantiate, no theist has actually observed or
stipulated a credible mechanism to measure god that is obvious to all just
like gravity is. all we get are poorly worked claims and delusional
assumptions.
So for the number 5 question, once this your concept of god has not be
substantiated through an obvious means to add weight to it's credibility, it
just remains a claim.
A flying black diamond unicorn has never been seen, can you say it does
not exist? Nope you can't because it has not been substantiated that it
exists meaning there is practically NOTHING to refute it, remains a claim.
same goes to all the concepts of god(s) mankind has invented[/b]

johnydon22:
am sure my answer was straight enough, unless you didn't read where i stated "DEATH IS ABSOLUTE" Dead people are dead


[b][i]lol. . sweety i grew up a christian and even studied in the seminary, many things that you don't know about christianity i have studied and known them, theological knowledge and otherwise. . so about your question if you had read my answer to the Op question (5) you wouldn't have asked me this question, so let me copy it for you here so as not start writing all over again.

Blossom023:


no .. im asking have you tried him for yourself, forget christian home, people that grew up der are witches today. forget wat an individual wrote, have you asked God to come into your life, for yourself, genuinely? nd nothing worked for u? all those people that have phd in theology are just pot hole diggers. They are perverts. they see the truth, know the truth nd twist it. so answer me please.

johnydon22:

Hhmmmm maybe comprehension isn't your strong point really. . . Have you tried asking Thor or Zeus to come into your life?

Blossom023:


first of all I am not talking about them and they are all imaginations. And besides why will I say something doesn't exist when I haven't tried? God is not something you see, but feel, his presence is with you once accept him. you just need to acknowledge him. I have to try something to know about it, nd if I haven't tried , I wouldn't say it doesn't exist.

hahahahahahahaha you see the irony in religion? you were so quick to label them imaginations then asserted that you wouldn't say something don't exist without trying. . you haven't tried God(Zeus) but yet you dismiss it as imagination. . . .Now you get the drift

The same you think you feel your god is the same way worshippers of Zeus and Thor feel them and they dismiss yours as imagination too. . . . So you see, their is nothing different between yours and theirs....your emotional attachment towards anything doesn't make it true.

When you find out the reason why you disbelieve and dismiss Zeus and thor then you will then know exactly why i disbelieve and dismiss yours

johnydon22:

hahahahahahahaha you see the irony in religion? you were so quick to label them imaginations then asserted that you wouldn't say something don't exist without trying. . you haven't tried God(Zeus) but yet you dismiss it as imagination. . . .Now you get the drift

The same you think you feel your god is the same way worshippers of Zeus and Thor feel them and they dismiss yours as imagination too. . . . So you see, their is nothing difference between yours and theirs....your emotional attachment towards anything doesn't make it true.

When you find out the reason why i disbelieve and dismiss Zeus and thor then you will then know exactly why i disbelieve and dismiss yours

Blossom023:


God is not zeus. My question still stands have you tried? to know? if u haven't then u can not say it exists or not. Thor as I know it is a movie, but as a god I don't know about it cos I haven't tried it. simple. so don't give yourself an excuse to doubt. Just say you don't believe, rather than saying he doesn't exist cos my dear he does. Accept him just once nd I promise u, u won't regret it.

johnydon22:

Habaaa where do they ship these people from, it actually seems all your brains work alike.
GOD is a noun that depicts a deity, it is not an actual name of any deity. the christian god is yahweh, hindhu God is krishna, greek religion refer to their own god zeus. . .get that now it is not the name of any deity...

Seriously i cannot just keep repeating myself when you seem to willfully show a severe case of very little cognitive ability, i do not feel anymore need to keep addressing a blatant show of personal induced delusion. .But seriously girl you need to step up your comprehension ability, it is really necessary

Queed:


Saw these questions online, and thought i could get great responses and answeres from atheist here

[center] [b] 1. Are you absolutely sure there is no
God? If not, then is it not possible that
there is a God? And if it is possible that
God exists, then can you think of any
reason that would keep you from wanting
to look at the evidence?
2. Would you agree that intelligently
designed things call for an intelligent
designer of them? If so, then would you
agree that evidence for intelligent design
in the universe would be evidence for a
designer of the universe?
3. Would you agree that nothing cannot
produce something? If so, then if the
universe did not exist but then came to
exist, wouldn’t this be evidence of a
cause beyond the universe?
4. Would you agree with me that just
because we cannot see something with
our eyes—such as our mind, gravity,
magnetism, the wind—that does not mean
it doesn’t exist?
5. Would you also agree that just because
we cannot see God with our eyes does
not necessarily mean He doesn’t exist?
6. In the light of the big bang evidence for
the origin of the universe, is it more
reasonable to believe that no one created
something out of nothing or someone
created something out of nothing?
7. Would you agree that something
presently exists? If something presently
exists, and something cannot come from
nothing, then would you also agree that
something must have always existed?
8. If it takes an intelligent being to
produce an encyclopedia, then would it
not also take an intelligent being to
produce the equivalent of 1000 sets of an
encyclopedia full of information in the first
one-celled animal? (Even atheists such
as Richard Dawkins acknowledges that
“amoebas have as much information in
their DNA as 1000 Encyclopaedia
Britannicas.” Richard Dawkins, The Blind
Watchmaker (New York: WW. Norton and
Co., 1996), 116.)
9. If an effect cannot be greater than its
cause (since you can’t give what you do
not have to give), then does it not make
more sense that mind produced matter
than that matter produced mind, as
atheists say?
10. Is there anything wrong anywhere? If
so, how can we know unless there is a
moral law?
11. If every law needs a lawgiver, does it
not make sense to say a moral law needs
a Moral Lawgiver?
12. Would you agree that if it took
intelligence to make a model universe in a
science lab, then it took super-intelligence
to make the real universe?
13. Would you agree that it takes a cause
to make a small glass ball found in the
woods? And would you agree that making
the ball larger does not eliminate the need
for a cause? If so, then doesn’t the
biggest ball of all (the whole universe)
need a cause?
14. If there is a cause beyond the whole
finite (limited) universe, would not this
cause have to be beyond the finite,
namely, non-finite or infinite?
15. In the light of the anthropic principle
(that the universe was fine-tuned for the
emergence of life from its very inception),
wouldn’t it make sense to say there was
an intelligent being who preplanned
human life? [/b][/center]


GOOD answers, POOR answers, NOISE etc.. are all welcomed

johnydon22:
am sure my answer was straight enough, unless you didn't read where i stated "DEATH IS ABSOLUTE" Dead people are dead


[b][i]lol. . sweety i grew up a christian and even studied in the seminary, many things that you don't know about christianity i have studied and known them, theological knowledge and otherwise. . so about your question if you had read my answer to the Op question (5) you wouldn't have asked me this question, so let me copy it for you here so as not start writing all over again.

Blossom023:


pfft not a straight forward answer.


you say God doesn't exist ryh? ok. when you take a bite of an apple, it is you who will know if its sour. same way when you wear a shoe you will know how tight it is, So my question is how do u know God doesn't exist? have you tried? people say they accept christ and follow his way. have you tried that ?

Blossom023:


Twisting it. I said you should try God nd see. Telling me wat people call him.

johnydon22:
Seriously you have a huge problem when it comes to comprehending simple things, like frank rightly pointed you definitely need more brain. . . . i answered this question on the very first two post. I have tried your god more than you ever imagine yourself doing and i found it was just in your head and nothing more.

Now try God(zeus) or God(osiris) and see before concluding they don't exist

menesheh:






He should ever try those gods too to ascertain the inaction of his god.

johnydon22:

[b]lmao i have answered most of them over a thousand times in this forum, in short they are not in the least technical or difficult...


5: Question 4 mentions that gravity and wind are not seen but yet again forgets or maybe purposely decided not to mention they can be measured, studied and observed.
Then question 5 employs this tactics with god, just like gravity can be measured and studied to substantiate, no theist has actually observed or stipulated a credible mechanism to measure god that is obvious to all just like gravity is. all we get are poorly worked claims and delusional assumptions.

So for the number 5 question, once this your concept of god has not be substantiated through an obvious means to add weight to it's credibility, it just remains a claim.
A flying black diamond unicorn has never been seen, can you say it does not exist? Nope you can't because it has not been substantiated that it exists meaning there is practically NOTHING to refute, it remains a claim. same goes to all the concepts of god(s) mankind has invented [/b]

You can't see, yet you believe it exist and one of the reasons why you believe it exist is because it can be measured?
[b] Don't you think most of the things that can be measured has to gotten close to?
»»GET CLOSER TO GOD

Why does gravity has an effect on you?
its obviously because you are in its field
assuming you were born and brought up in one particular place in space, you would swear that there is nothing like gravity
»»TO FEEL THE EFFECT OF GOD YOU MUST BE WITHIN HIS FIELD


So I don't agree with your all what you have said

and I would like to see your response to question one

Queed:



You can't see, yet you believe it exist and one of the reasons why you believe it exist is because it can be measured?
[b] Don't you think most of the things that can be measured has to gotten close to?
»»GET CLOSER TO GOD

Why does gravity has an effect on you?
its obviously because you are in its field
assuming you were born and brought up in one particular place in space, you would swear that there is nothing like gravity
»»TO FEEL THE EFFECT OF GOD YOU MUST BE WITHIN HIS FIELD


So I don't agree with your all what you have said

The effect of gravity is all around the universe, the sun is held up by it, the earth with it and black holes an infinite supply of it.
So being born somewhere in space still doesn't take you off the dimension of observable gravity, so you see your analogy of being within the dimension of gravity is practically flawed.

So then since you have a method of observing god, why don't you substantiate it by postulating it, if it isn't substantiated then it remains that your claim is as a result of assumptions. . . You must first substantiate your claim as to ensure its credibility.

it remains that this your concept of a god outside the observable field of man tasks us the question of how you got to know. . . Until you are able to prove your analogy it remains a claim