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A Question Directed To Trinitarians by CANTICLES: 11:24am On Jan 16, 2015
Trinitarians bliv there ar three distinct persons

1) God the father 1st person and God.

2) "God the son" ( this phrase never appear in the scripture) . 2nd person and God

3) "God the holyspirit" ( this phrase never appear in the scripture) 3rd person and God !

FROM the above list ... We have 3 distinct persons, whom are God , Thus 3 Gods !! Oh... Trinitarians quickly cover it with the last phrase " they are not three But One" !!

That last phrase is the main focus of this thread .
Trinitarians Should Answer This:


:::: If the trinity doctrine is true and the 3 are one , [size=25] what happen to the Father and holyspirit when the son died for three days ?? If the 3 are truly one, why didnt the father and holyspirit also dead ? [/size]

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Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by elantraceey(f): 11:33am On Jan 16, 2015
Answer to your question NO
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by MrPresident1: 11:40am On Jan 16, 2015
CANTICLES, Your Bible is New World Translation, right?
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by Nobody: 11:41am On Jan 16, 2015
CANTICLES:
Trinitarians bliv there ar three distinct persons

1) God the father 1st person and God.

2) God the son ( this phrase never appear in the scripture) . 2nd person and God

3) God the holyspirit ( this phrase never appear in the scripture) 3rd person and God !

FROM the above list ... We have 3 distinct persons, whom are God , Thus 3 Gods !! Oh... Trinitarians quickly cover it with the last phrase " they are not three But One" !!

That last phrase is the main focus of this thread .
Trinitarians Should Answer This:

:::: If the trinity doctrine is true and the 3 are one , what happen to the Father and holyspirit when the son died for three days ?? Did they also die ??
have u read acts chapter one? I'm surprised u say the Holy Spirit isn't in scriptures.
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by morefire: 11:42am On Jan 16, 2015
when a man is brain dead, do you say the man is dead?
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by CANTICLES: 11:54am On Jan 16, 2015
elantraceey:
Answer to your question NO
Uv demolish that cover up phrase already .

so ..... One dies, but the other 2 are alive , so are u sayin there are 3 separate Gods ??
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by Nobody: 1:59pm On Jan 16, 2015
CANTICLES:
Trinitarians bliv there ar three distinct persons

1) God the father 1st person and God.

2) God the son ( this phrase never appear in the scripture) . 2nd person and God

3) God the holyspirit ( this phrase never appear in the scripture) 3rd person and God !

FROM the above list ... We have 3 distinct persons, whom are God , Thus 3 Gods !! Oh... Trinitarians quickly cover it with the last phrase " they are not three But One" !!

That last phrase is the main focus of this thread .
Trinitarians Should Answer This:

:::: If the trinity doctrine is true and the 3 are one , what happen to the Father and holyspirit when the son died for three days ?? If the 3 are truly one, why didnt the father and holyspirit also dead ?

Well.....start from the concept that God is beyond our comprehension....and I am sure you will get it.

Also...the bible is written by human hands....and even men struggle to get the full words to describe God.

Simples.

Your problem, in a nice way....is that you are trying to understand God from a human point of view. Give it up. It won't work.

Or try explaining humans to ants, or to flowers? They won't get it either....and explaining it in their language would only make things worse. grin

Modified....How do you explain the concept of calculus to a five year old? Do you use the language of a University professor of Maths...or do you use simple, childish tongue? So it is with the Bible's description of God...it sounds complex, and even confusing....but we Christians believe that as we grow in the grace and knowledge of God....even after our deaths....we would fully understand his Nature.

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Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by davien(m): 2:03pm On Jan 16, 2015
Christianity really is a divided lot. grin

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Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by paulGrundy(m): 2:48pm On Jan 16, 2015
davien:
Christianity really is a divided lot. grin

Its CANTICLES/BERNIMORE's religion that is causing the division by inserting words into the holy text and re-interpreting it to suit their bias.
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by davien(m): 3:06pm On Jan 16, 2015
paulGrundy:


Its CANTICLES/BERNIMORE's religion that is causing the division by inserting words into the holy text and re-interpreting it to suit their bias.
But why are the texts so vague that anyone can insert anything into it?
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by vooks: 3:33pm On Jan 16, 2015
What happens at death?
If man CEASES to exist, then God the Son ceased to exist for three days
But we know at death the spirit is separated from the body. So Jesus lived in the spirit beyond crucifixion

Please begin another thread on what happens after death cool
CANTICLES:

:::: If the trinity doctrine is true and the 3 are one , what happen to the Father and holyspirit when the son died for three days ?? If the 3 are truly one, why didnt the father and holyspirit also dead ?
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by CANTICLES: 2:23pm On Jan 17, 2015
Dont derail the thread bro
vooks:
What happens at death?

" You will RETURN TO THE GROUND, FOR YOU are DUST and to DUST YOU shall RETURN" Gen 3:19

If man CEASES to exist, then God the Son ceased to exist for three days

He himself confirmed it that he will be in d ground of the earth for three days and three nights (Read Matt 12:40)
.

But we know at death the spirit is separated from the body

Of course , the spirit in the NOSTRILS of all mankind, ( job 27:3) the "breath of life in our NOSTRILS" GEN 2:7, of either The good, bad , righteous, or unrighteous Return To God


So Jesus lived in the spirit beyond crucifixion


Pure fabrication .. Jesus spirit, d breath of life returns to God(luk 23:46) , as a matter of scriptures Jesus himself didnt ressurect from the grave until the third day,infact didnt ascend to heaven until 40 days AFTER his ressurection

! John 20:17
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by vooks: 2:35pm On Jan 17, 2015
his body went to the earth. Not his spirit

CANTICLES:
Dont derail the thread bro


" You will RETURN TO THE GROUND, FOR YOU are DUST and to DUST YOU shall RETURN" Gen 3:19



He himself confirmed it that he will be in d ground of the earth for three days and three nights (Read Matt 12:40)
.

Of course , the spirit in the NOSTRILS of all mankind, ( job 27:3) the "breath of life in our NOSTRILS" GEN 2:7, of either The good, bad , righteous, or unrighteous Return To God



Pure fabrication .. Jesus spirit, d breath of life returns to God(luk 23:46) , as a matter of scriptures Jesus himself didnt ressurect from the grave until the third day,infact didnt ascend to heaven until 40 days AFTER his ressurection

! John 20:17



Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by CANTICLES: 3:46pm On Jan 20, 2015
paulGrundy:


Its CANTICLES/BERNIMORE's religion that is causing the division by inserting words into the holy text and re-interpreting it to suit their bias.


A mere radio propaganda
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by CANTICLES: 3:48pm On Jan 20, 2015
paulGrundy:


Its CANTICLES/BERNIMORE's religion that is causing the division by inserting words into the holy text and re-interpreting it to suit their bias.


A mere radio propaganda !





Answer the question of the Op
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by MrPresident1: 3:54pm On Jan 20, 2015
CANTICLES:
Trinitarians bliv there ar three distinct persons

1) God the father 1st person and God.

2) God the son ( this phrase never appear in the scripture) . 2nd person and God

3) God the holyspirit ( this phrase never appear in the scripture) 3rd person and God !

FROM the above list ... We have 3 distinct persons, whom are God , Thus 3 Gods !! Oh... Trinitarians quickly cover it with the last phrase " they are not three But One" !!

That last phrase is the main focus of this thread .
Trinitarians Should Answer This:

:::: If the trinity doctrine is true and the 3 are one , what happen to the Father and holyspirit when the son died for three days ?? If the 3 are truly one, why didnt the father and holyspirit also dead ?

You think it is a literal death that we are talking about here? Like somebody went kaput? Is that what you are thinking?
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by Horus(m): 4:03pm On Jan 20, 2015
People would call me mad when I said things like, “in your Bible there are added verses to support your trinity theory.” Christians say oh he’s crazy, or he’s mad. Christians claim that a trinity exists in the Bible, when it doesn’t. I repeat, yes, you can find the words “the father, the word, and the Holy Ghost and these three are one” in 1 John 5:7-9 in any version of the Bible. However if you were to consult the original manuscript of the original Aramic or Syriac Bible, you would find that these words don’t exist and that they were added in. If your preacher, teacher, minister, pastor,deacon or any other religious leader really cared, he would take time out to research the original language, rather than rely on poor translations. If they knew how to translate from the original Syriac (Arabic) and Galilean Arabic, the verse 1 John 5:7 that you are familiar with today did not exist. Neither did it exist in the original Hebrew and Greek that were translated from these original languages. It wasn’t until the onset of the Roman Catholic Church that this distortion was made. The Roman Catholics inserted the trinity verse when they tranlated the bible from Greek to Latin. Notice I say “inserted” and not “translated” because, as I already said, the original Greek did not have this verse. However, you will find some Greek translations that have been translated from Latin or English, and it is in these Greek translations that you will find either the whole trinity verse or only a portion of it.

1 John 5:7 is surrounded in controversy because there are two versions of this verse. So-called scholars say the verse used in most bibles today is either not the original verse, or they say that it is only partially genuine. These so-called scholars continue to argue back and forth on this subject because they really don’t want to admit that the trinity really has no basis in the teachings of Jesus.

I will refer to the Holy Bible from Ancient Manuscripts by George M. Lamsa, which is a bible that is translated from the original Aramic or Syriac language :

6 This is he who came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water and blood.
7 And the Spirit testifies that that very Spirit is the truth.
8 And there are three to bear witness, the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three are one.

When you read 1 John 5:7 in your standard bible, which in this case is the Ryrie Study Bible (King James Version). . . you will read this:

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Do you see what happened?? . . . You will find that the original verse 5:7, has been actually pushed up to merge with verse 5:6.
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by CANTICLES: 8:30pm On Jan 20, 2015
MrPresident1:


You think it is a literal death that we are talking about here? Like somebody went kaput? Is that what you are thinking?


But how does this answer the op ? ..... And besides, are you saying JESUS NEVA DIE ?
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by MrPresident1: 9:46am On Jan 21, 2015
CANTICLES:


But how does this answer the op ? ..... And besides, are you saying JESUS NEVA DIE ?

1 Chronicles 29:23
Then Solomon sat on the throne of the Lord as king instead of David his father, and prospered; and all Israel obeyed him.


Jehovah witness man, have you lost all ability to reason? YAH had representatives on earth; the death of Christ simply means that the Spirit of God left the earth. No more human representatives of YAH again on the earth.
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by CANTICLES: 1:07pm On Jan 21, 2015
MrPresident1:


the death of Christ simply means that the Spirit of God left the earth.



Firstly, provide the scriptural evidence for the above statement ?
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by CANTICLES: 7:20pm On Feb 16, 2015
They cant defend their propaganda
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by johnydon22(m): 7:58pm On Feb 16, 2015
2+2 = 3 , no no its 2+2=5, no no both of you are wrong 2+2=6 ………haaaaa Christianity.. **Sighs**
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by CANTICLES: 11:55pm On May 16, 2015
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Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by johnw74: 2:41am On May 17, 2015
CANTICLES:
Trinitarians bliv there ar three distinct persons

1) God the father 1st person and God.

2) "God the son" ( this phrase never appear in the scripture) . 2nd person and God

3) "God the holyspirit" ( this phrase never appear in the scripture) 3rd person and God !


Why do the three persons of God have to be numbered, and in a particular order?
if you want to number them, then make Jesus Christ number three, because the Word of God was born Jesus Christ only 2000 years ago.

FROM the above list ... We have 3 distinct persons, whom are God , Thus 3 Gods !!

That is your belief.

Oh... Trinitarians quickly cover it with the last phrase " they are not three But One" !!

I say God is One, because the Bible says God is One.

You don't understand or accept how God can be three persons and One God,
and you cannot understand or accept it without the Holy Spirit.

That last phrase is the main focus of this thread .
Trinitarians Should Answer This:


:::: If the trinity doctrine is true and the 3 are one , [size=25] what happen to the Father and holyspirit when the son died for three days ?? If the 3 are truly one, why didnt the father and holyspirit also dead ? [/size]

The Son died for three days, why would the Father and the Holy Spirit have to die?
The flesh Jesus died, God's Spirit cannot die.
One of the purposes of Jesus death was to show the power of God's resurrection,
His body did not even begin to decay.
Re: A Question Directed To Trinitarians by CANTICLES: 5:19am On May 17, 2015
johnw74:


The Son died for three days, why would the Father and the Holy Spirit have to die?
.
Wow ! See separation.

; a God Died , while the other two Gods are alive ? Thanks for showing us that they are 3 different Gods .

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