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The Trinitarians Are In Error! by cosiocan(m): 8:22pm On Nov 28, 2015
The Trinitarians are in error! Because:

Jesus Christ stated clearly that He has a God over Him.
Jesus Said; "I AM ASCENDING TO MY GOD and your God."
John 20:17.
"I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I."
John 14:28

David in the Spirit Said, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You love righteousness and hate wickedness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions."

(NOTICE! Who anointed Jesus Christ?

David Said, It is GOD, His God!)

Apostle Paul, Called God "The God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory",
2 Corinthians 1:3

Re: The Trinitarians Are In Error! by Aceed: 8:56pm On Nov 28, 2015
"In the beginning was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"

John 1:1

And Jesus = Word
cool

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Re: The Trinitarians Are In Error! by malvisguy212: 9:20pm On Nov 28, 2015
The Trinity states that:
(1) there is only one God by nature
(2) there are three Persons (Father, Son,
Holy Spirit) who all share the divine
nature.
(3) and that all three Persons are distinct.Jesus, the Son,in His incarnation
took upon Himself a human nature and
was 100% God and 100% man.

When He worshiped God was he
worshipping Himself? When He was
praying to God was He praying to
Himself? No, in His human nature he was worshipping the Father who was God, because that is the proper duty of man.

There are things God the father know
that Jesus in his Human nature do not
know, for example if you notice a demon possessed man being healed, prior to his healing, he act strange, he speak with uncontrolled voice, and he say words which in his real sense would not say, but the time he get healed, when you told him what he say, he will deny saying such things and acting in such a way, why? Because his demonic nature and human nature are DISTINCT from each other ( just as God and Jesus was ).

so Jesus is a man who was possessed by
God, here are proof:

Jesus claimed to have many of the
attributes that God alone possesses.
Jesus claimed to have sent the prophets:
Matthew 23:34
"Therefore, behold, I am sending you
prophets and wise men and scribes;
some of them you will kill and crucify,
and some of them you will scourge in
your synagogues, and persecute from city to city.
However, the Old Testament indicates that God sent the prophets. Therefore,
Jesus was claiming the authority that was previously reserved only for God.
Jesus claimed that His origins are from
heaven, whereas men are from the
world:
John 3:13
"And no one has ascended into heaven,
but He who descended from heaven,
even the Son of Man.

Jesus also claimed to have existed
"before the world began":
John 17:5
"And now, Father, glorify me in your
presence with the glory I had with you
before the world began."

This statement is an obvious claim to
deity. Not only did Jesus claim to exist
before the creation of the universe, but
He claimed to share the glory of God!

Jesus also claimed that He had "all
authority... in heaven and on earth" and
that everything of God was His.
Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came up and spoke to them,
saying, "All authority has been given to
Me in heaven and on earth."

Jesus accepted the title of God. Not only
did Jesus claim the attributes of God,but
He even accepted the title GOD, Thomas
the ever-skeptical disciple, was
unconvinced that Jesus had risen from
the dead and wanted to see direct proof.

However, when the Lord Jesus appeared
to him, his only reaction was "My Lord
and my God!"
John 20:28-29
Thomas answered and said to Him, "MY
LORD AND MY GOD !" Jesus said to him,
"Because you have seen Me, have you
believed? Blessed are they who did not
see, and yet believed."
What was Jesus' reaction to the title of
God? Did Jesus rebuke him for calling
Him "God"? No! In fact, Jesus praised
Thomas for his belief. And the belief that Thomas exhibited was that Jesus was LORD AND GOD . If Jesus were not God, accepting such a statement for truth would be a grievous sin. Either Jesus is God or He would have to be a sinner!

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Re: The Trinitarians Are In Error! by Nobody: 4:18am On Nov 29, 2015
malvisguy212:
The Trinity states that:
(1) there is only one God by nature
(2) there are three Persons (Father, Son,
Holy Spirit) who all share the divine
nature.
(3) and that all three Persons are distinct.Jesus, the Son,in His incarnation
took upon Himself a human nature and
was 100% God and 100% man.

When He worshiped God was he
worshipping Himself? When He was
praying to God was He praying to
Himself? No, in His human nature he was worshipping the Father who was God, because that is the proper duty of man.

Was it also the proper duty of God? was it the proper duty of God to be taught? John 8:28

What about this:

The Sovereign Lord Jehovah has given me the tongue of those taught,
So that I may know how to answer the tired one with the right word.
He awakens me morning by morning;
He awakens my ear to listen like the taught ones.
 5 The Sovereign Lord Jehovah has opened my ear,
And I was not rebellious.
I did not turn in the opposite direction
" Isai 54:4, 5

Is that the obligation of God, to be taught?

There are things God the father know
that Jesus in his Human nature do not
know, for example if you notice a demon possessed man being healed, prior to his healing, he act strange, he speak with uncontrolled voice, and he say words which in his real sense would not say, but the time he get healed, when you told him what he say, he will deny saying such things and acting in such a way, why? Because his demonic nature and human nature are DISTINCT from each other ( just as God and Jesus was ).

Remember that Jesus in his human nature was 100% God, so why could he not know it since he had other spectacular knowledge humans dont possess?

With regards to when the end will come, why then is it that ONLY the Father knows when it will end, was the holy spirit in human nature too?

In fact, if Jehovah knows when the end will come and is omniscience. Now if Jesus did not know when the end will come, is it not unreasonable to now say he is 100% God? God 100% (Jah) knows when the end will come, Jesus 100% God does not know. Does this not show that Jesus cannot be said to be 100%, since 100% God knows what he does not know? (Remember we know when something is 100%, so emphasing the human nature cant be an excuse)

so Jesus is a man who was possessed by
God, here are proof:

Jesus claimed to have many of the
attributes that God alone possesses.
Jesus claimed to have sent the prophets:
Matthew 23:34
"Therefore, behold, I am sending you
prophets and wise men and scribes;
some of them you will kill and crucify,
and some of them you will scourge in
your synagogues, and persecute from city to city.
However, the Old Testament indicates that God sent the prophets. Therefore,
Jesus was claiming the authority that was previously reserved only for God.
Jesus claimed that His origins are from
heaven, whereas men are from the
world:

I understand you mean the OT prophets sent by God. Your position is that it was Jesus that sent them cos of what he stated in that Book of Matthew. However, Jesus statement was still future, so the prophets he meant were his followers.

John 3:13
"And no one has ascended into heaven,
but He who descended from heaven,
even the Son of Man.

What is the point here?

Jesus also claimed to have existed
"before the world began":
John 17:5
"And now, Father, glorify me in your
presence with the glory I had with you
before the world began."

This statement is an obvious claim to
deity. Not only did Jesus claim to exist
before the creation of the universe, but
He claimed to share the glory of God!

What is the point here. glory I had with you, same as glory I had alongside you. What do you understand by glory?

Answer this:

1. Do you believe that Jesus had more privileges than he had in his prehuman existence? heb 1:4; Phil 2:9

2. Now, if you were to elevate Jehovah God, to which position would you elevate him to?

3. What superior position will you give God that he does not have? who taught God what he knows, and who is he subject to? Compare that with Jesus. 1cor 15:28 says that Jesus will subject himself to the Father. This time, not in human nature.

Jesus also claimed that He had "all
authority... in heaven and on earth" and
that everything of God was His.
Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came up and spoke to them,
saying, "All authority has been given to
Me in heaven and on earth."

Who gave Jesus that all authority? why did you remove the place that says in that verse, "has been given to me"?

Jesus accepted the title of God. Not only
did Jesus claim the attributes of God,but
He even accepted the title GOD, Thomas
the ever-skeptical disciple, was
unconvinced that Jesus had risen from
the dead and wanted to see direct proof.

However, when the Lord Jesus appeared
to him, his only reaction was "My Lord
and my God!"
John 20:28-29
Thomas answered and said to Him, "MY
LORD AND MY GOD !" Jesus said to him,
"Because you have seen Me, have you
believed? Blessed are they who did not
see, and yet believed."
What was Jesus' reaction to the title of
God? Did Jesus rebuke him for calling
Him "God"? No! In fact, Jesus praised
Thomas for his belief. And the belief that Thomas exhibited was that Jesus was LORD AND GOD . If Jesus were not God, accepting such a statement for truth would be a grievous sin. Either Jesus is God or He would have to be a sinner!

The word God means mighty one. This title is borne by other humans, not only Jesus. However, John stated at the end of the chapter that all this has been written to show that Jesus is the son of God, not that he is God Almighty. John 20:31

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Re: The Trinitarians Are In Error! by Nobody: 6:55am On Nov 29, 2015
malvisguy212:
The Trinity states that:
(1) there is only one God by nature
(2) there are three Persons (Father, Son,
Holy Spirit) who all share the divine
nature.
(3) and that all three Persons are distinct.Jesus, the Son,in His incarnation
took upon Himself a human nature and
was 100% God and 100% man.

When He worshiped God was he
worshipping Himself? When He was
praying to God was He praying to
Himself? No, in His human nature he was worshipping the Father who was God, because that is the proper duty of man.

There are things God the father know
that Jesus in his Human nature do not
know, for example if you notice a demon possessed man being healed, prior to his healing, he act strange, he speak with uncontrolled voice, and he say words which in his real sense would not say, but the time he get healed, when you told him what he say, he will deny saying such things and acting in such a way, why? Because his demonic nature and human nature are DISTINCT from each other ( just as God and Jesus was ).

so Jesus is a man who was possessed by
God, here are proof:

Jesus claimed to have many of the
attributes that God alone possesses.
Jesus claimed to have sent the prophets:
Matthew 23:34
"Therefore, behold, I am sending you
prophets and wise men and scribes;
some of them you will kill and crucify,
and some of them you will scourge in
your synagogues, and persecute from city to city.
However, the Old Testament indicates that God sent the prophets. Therefore,
Jesus was claiming the authority that was previously reserved only for God.
Jesus claimed that His origins are from
heaven, whereas men are from the
world:
John 3:13
"And no one has ascended into heaven,
but He who descended from heaven,
even the Son of Man.

Jesus also claimed to have existed
"before the world began":
John 17:5
"And now, Father, glorify me in your
presence with the glory I had with you
before the world began."

This statement is an obvious claim to
deity. Not only did Jesus claim to exist
before the creation of the universe, but
He claimed to share the glory of God!

Jesus also claimed that He had "all
authority... in heaven and on earth" and
that everything of God was His.
Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came up and spoke to them,
saying, "All authority has been given to
Me in heaven and on earth."

Jesus accepted the title of God. Not only
did Jesus claim the attributes of God,but
He even accepted the title GOD, Thomas
the ever-skeptical disciple, was
unconvinced that Jesus had risen from
the dead and wanted to see direct proof.

However, when the Lord Jesus appeared
to him, his only reaction was "My Lord
and my God!"
John 20:28-29
Thomas answered and said to Him, "MY
LORD AND MY GOD !" Jesus said to him,
"Because you have seen Me, have you
believed? Blessed are they who did not
see, and yet believed."
What was Jesus' reaction to the title of
God? Did Jesus rebuke him for calling
Him "God"? No! In fact, Jesus praised
Thomas for his belief. And the belief that Thomas exhibited was that Jesus was LORD AND GOD . If Jesus were not God, accepting such a statement for truth would be a grievous sin. Either Jesus is God or He would have to be a sinner!



Bible said Jesus is a man.

Bible said Jesus is a God.

Bible na den of confusion.
Re: The Trinitarians Are In Error! by malvisguy212: 8:04am On Nov 29, 2015
chuna1985:




Bible said Jesus is a man.

Bible said Jesus is a God.

Bible na den of confusion.
the natural man received not the things of the spirit. They are foolishness to him.
Re: The Trinitarians Are In Error! by Nobody: 8:38am On Nov 29, 2015
malvisguy212:
the natural man received not the things of the spirit. They are foolishness to him.


So ur saying Jesus is foolish or what

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