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Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by madgoat(m): 10:44am On Feb 02, 2015
Nice write up!

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Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by egariyi(f): 10:58am On Feb 02, 2015
adorable29:
All this one na grammar! One thing is sure....

IN BENIN CITY, WE HAVE NEVER PAID SO MUCH IN "NEPA" BILL AND YET HAD ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS POWER SUPPLY AS WE DO NOW!

We have light an average of 2hours every 2 or 3days in my area. If we are lucky, we see it up to 3hours in total (we don't see it again till 2 or 3days later)! Yet we are forced to pay the fixed charge every month!


Our transformer blew and for 5 months (jan-may last year) , not a spark of light. Yet we paid fixed charge for that 5 months!

Since the privatization of NEPA, we have jumped from frying pan into fire. Infact from frying Pan into volcanic molten magma!!!

My sista, exactly the same thing we suffer in NTA Road area of Phc. one day of 2 or 3 hours of electricity and it goes off for like 2-3 days. As at Oct 2013, we were having almost 22 hours of light in this same area. All these changed from 1st November 2013 when the privitization took place and we have never recovered from it. The reasons given by Phed range from vandilisation, gas and any excuse you cna think off. My questions is that why is everything now attributed to VANDALISM? Why was it not so during the PHCN days?
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by Nobody: 11:29am On Feb 02, 2015
ayobase:

http://johnomolaolu..com/2015/01/reasons-you-might-not-be-having.html



Lame excuses and definition of transfered failure of ineptitude. it seems you re either working or serving as a PRO with one of our so called DISCO's,
IEE regulation regarding electrical joints stipulated that they must be mechanically strong, from what point in electricity generation does this single regulation starts and stop?
Your answer?
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by Nobody: 11:32am On Feb 02, 2015
Power supply in Nigeria is disastrous and too poor. I am really ashamed whenever i hear... "Nigeria is among the top richest countries in the World". come to think of it, with all those billions which we gain from revenue and transactions, what are the government really doing with those funds? Or is our politicians and leaders embezzling and squandring our money?? I don't really Know the answer to these questions.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by EagleNest(m): 12:08pm On Feb 02, 2015
Good stuff!
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by Mrbigman1(m): 1:05pm On Feb 02, 2015
ayobase:

http://johnomolaolu..com/2015/01/reasons-you-might-not-be-having.html




Oga, please tell me the progress of the FG on better power generation. It's good we know you have a better idea about power.
Re there on going improvements? Co's we dnt trust politicians?
The minister of power complained of sabotage on power via vandalism of gas pipe line, please explain more.
Thanks to the added knowledge.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by JoBabs(m): 1:28pm On Feb 02, 2015
Nice write up bro, my question is all these increament in †he power supply I.e 2000 where r †hey been distributed? Is it at †he power genetion plant or where? And ow cum we don'† enjoy constant electricity despite †he increament?
Thank you.....

God bless nigeria.....
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by adorable29(f): 1:54pm On Feb 02, 2015


I feel your pain. In the era of PHCN, it was govt owned, whether there was profit or not, govt was obliged to provide you electricity. Now the discos are owned by the private sector and the discos buy electricity and sell same to make a profit.
The area you live may be listed under hostile and unresponsive, i.e customers/consumers in the area don't pay bills and are known to molest staff of the company. If you were in the management of say a disco, would it profitable to replace a facility with millions to a community that even in 10 years time you won't recover the your cost? Wouldn't you rather channel you products (electricity) to customers who are willing to pay?
Fixed charge is quite annoying, however fixed charge is the cost of evacuating power from the generating station to your doorstep, and this charge goes to the FG, with a little percentage going to the disco. The discos are only collecting on behalf of the FG.
If you feel your bill isn't commensurate with how much you consume, walk into any business district and lodge a complaint, if you're not satisfied, you can have it escalated by visiting the NERC office in your state.




Unless you are saying the whole of Benin is hostile and unresponsive. From what I gather, we are even lucky to have had our transformer replaced within 5months. In another area within the same Egor LGA, theirs hadn't been rectified one year later. In any case, that does not solve the issue of being forced to pay fixed charge for the 5months of total blackout, especially because no "power was evacuated from the generating station to my door step" as you put it. If you ask me, those displaying hostility in this case is the BEDC agents themselves.


NB: I appreciate that you are trying to explain the unexplainable but the truth is this private coys seems to be overwhelmed and seriously confused as though they had no idea what they were getting themselves into when the opted for this business.

In my 3bedroom flat, I have been using less than 200units for the past one year cos of the poor supply. This is less than #3000. Yet we spend nothing less than 12k monthly to keep our generator running. This is good money part of which should have been going to BEDC's profit margin if they can pull themselves together.


As far as I am concerned, the electricity market in Nigeria is so massive but has to be properly harnessed by the right investors who know their onions. Not some bunch of confused people who think they can handle the sector cos they have some cash and know how to spell "electricity".
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by wonda26(m): 2:20pm On Feb 02, 2015
Simon21:
nice one op, as a little point of correction, opening actually means switching OFF and closing means switching ON.

@ayobase, plz note this very well. I actually enjoyed or write-up.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by wonda26(m): 2:28pm On Feb 02, 2015
jidxin:
I stand to be corrected ...substation is not the transformer on ur street

The transformer on your street together with the feeder pillar, isolator (if present), uprisers is also a substation.


The one when you have the power transformers with CB panels and stuff is also a substation: Injection substation.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by Nobody: 3:02pm On Feb 02, 2015
Ahmeduana:

ABOUT THE DEVIL MAY CARE ATTITUDE
in a situation residents went to complain to PHCN staff about a break down of equipments in an area, and the PHCN staff are demanding for money before they would rectify the problem, WHAT DO WE CALLED THAT AND UNDER WHAT CATEGORY DID SUCH ACTION FALLS INTO? PLEASE I NEED ANSWER SINCE YOU ARE THE p.r.o OF PHCN, I ASSUMED.

It depends. Because of the current state of situations in the distribution sector, you may need to help where you can.
If for example you went to report for a power outage and after accessments they find out the feeder pillar fuses got burnt.(In my area this is equal to copper wires). The electricity distribution company may not readily provide the materials necessary. And here is no time to start criticizing the linesmen. If you can, you simply provide those small small materials or the money for them.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by Nobody: 3:08pm On Feb 02, 2015
johnwizey:
D only reason is the billions allocated for power is been embezzled by dat clueless individual and his cohorts.











Come FEBUHARI 14, we tell dem to start packing dere loads









Sai Buhari
I could water and keep you in the sunlight everyday so that you will grow up. Please, do you want that?
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by Nobody: 3:09pm On Feb 02, 2015
doug:
-Opening: Switching on
-Closing: Switching off
-Load shedding: Sharing of Electricity among consumers on 2 or more Feeders with a
common Power Transformer.
-Local load shedding: Sharing of Electricity among consumers on 1 Feeder.

Good job Sir but I think there is a mix up in the definition given for Opening and Closing a feeder.

Yes a little mix up.
Opening = Switching Off or Opening the point of contact of two or more conductors(gotten from the sense of opening up two cables or other conductors where they are contacting)
Closing = Switching On or Closing the point of contact of two or more conductors
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by Nobody: 3:43pm On Feb 02, 2015
litetias:
The reasons for the epileptic power situation are infrastructure based. The current infrastructure is outdated, dilapidated and inadequate for generating enough electricity as well as for distributing it.
I don't know how the OP thinks he has addressed the issues. The poor maintenance culture and government myopia is responsible for every of the shortcomings of this country

You are so right Litetias. Lack of maintenance culture. Many transformers I know were installed over 15years ago, then serving one street, - more than 15years later - they are now serving about 5 to 10 streets. Just one transformer.
The Department responsible for accessing and installing new power lines and erecting new substations(P&C), are rarely equipped or Monitored. When I say equipped, that includes manpower, machines, tools, education and other logistics.
The Linesmen are porely serviced. They are the heaviest workers and they are the least payed. They are poorly maintained and managed. How can a certain linesman -given the risk and tediousness of his job- be expected to work 8-5, 7days a week?

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Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by Reference(m): 4:38pm On Feb 02, 2015
ayobase:


I can't say much about Ogun State. But I wanna believe you are under IBEDC.

Nigerians are the cause my brother.
A case of paying Peter via robbing Paul.
I must balance the account by robbing some other customers after helping Mr. A to reduce a bill of 60K to 6K.

I might need to spread a bill of 54K on other customers to balance up.
It is that simple and simple.

We need to stand up against corruption.
Corruption is not only about stealing, but not doing what is right.

Thank you. And not waiting for an elected government official to make them do the right thing and pay their bills. The average Nigerian will not work hard and deal honestly to enjoy the good things of life but check out threads everyday. They want change in government simply because they love buck passing, burying their heads in the sand, not knowing that it is they, the people who make government succeed or fail.

I've said it countless times. If people won't pay their bills stable electricity under free market will remain an illusion. Investors are not Santa Claus. They will have their money back or you can return to socialism and certain national economic doom.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by Nobody: 4:40pm On Feb 02, 2015
Kayman3:
I feel the fact that some people were boycotting the prepaid meter by their illegal connection does not stop any of this distribution company from giving it out.
I think Prepaid meter will be of two added advantage to them

1.
There will be efficient account rather than paying cash to one cashier that will remit to one manager(You will know the number of unit sold with respect to your income book and bank balance)
2. Consumers will be conscious of their electricity usage 'cos nobody want to pay more.

Can somebody please tell me why prepaid meters were not in circulation or stop from been distributed?

Kayman3. There are known reasons:
(1) because some areas are highly violent, the DISCOs managements have been keeping little faith. But I believe this can be cinched if they really want to
(2) Because of poor economic culture and financial literacy, they may have wrongly assumed that The Estimated Billing system will give them more returns for their investment. This cannot be wider from the truth. If these Distribution Companies could stop the traditional Billing system and invest in electronic and prepaid Billing and payment systems, there would be more effeciency in their service, more output, better accountability, and more returns for investment.
(3) Sole proprietorship. These companies should start selling shares and stakes.
(4) Greedy management. The DISCOs managements are surely benefitting from the status quo payment system. Advising the owners for their own benefit
(5) Myopic low income staff. These group feel that the shikiri moni they are making from disconnection (cutting), is what sustains them. Thereby failing to advise the owners properly.
(6) NEPAs' unNEPAs. Many of the "NEPA" staff you know are actually not staff. They get their livelihood through these 'lukuluku' ways. These group are one of the causes of the many anomalies in the industry.
Etc
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by chuka5000(m): 7:12pm On Feb 02, 2015
johnwizey:
D only reason is the billions allocated for power is been embezzled by dat clueless individual and his cohorts.











Come FEBUHARI 14, we tell dem to start packing dere loads









Sai Buhari






This is the first time in nigeria power is increasing by proven records despite all the money spent by past presidents including obasanjo.
And u still got the guts to come here and spit trash. Monkey.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by wunmi590(m): 7:58pm On Feb 02, 2015
ayobase:

http://johnomolaolu..com/2015/01/reasons-you-might-not-be-having.html




OP, u jst chnged my orientation on PHCN. One of the best write up have ever come across on NL...

God bless you
God bless your generation
God bless me also
God bless Seun Osewa
God bless Naira land
God bless Nigeria
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by Efomeh2020(m): 9:33pm On Feb 02, 2015
If Nigeria can generate 10000mega watts, load shedding of electricity supply will stop.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by Ochukojax(m): 10:35pm On Feb 02, 2015
Nice...good orientation
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by tecmon: 10:56pm On Feb 02, 2015
lomomike:

Must you derail this thread with your childish political rants. The so called clueless individual is much more successful than you, older than you, has achieved only what a few has achieved, and what millions dream of achieving.
Grow up and stop being silly and childish.
what do you expect when a baboon is punching a laptop, while the children of his employers are in foreign universities . But his own curriculum is ranting 101, forgery 419, and anarchy 666
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by ayobase(m): 12:48pm On Feb 03, 2015
wunmi590:


OP, u jst chnged my orientation on PHCN. One of the best write up have ever come across on NL...

God bless you
God bless your generation
God bless me also
God bless Seun Osewa
God bless Naira land
God bless Nigeria

Thanks.
It is good to educate the public despite the anomalies.

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Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by ayobase(m): 12:50pm On Feb 03, 2015
ALAYORMII:
Electricity borku for my area

Lucky you.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by ayobase(m): 12:53pm On Feb 03, 2015
doug:
-Opening: Switching on
-Closing: Switching off
-Load shedding: Sharing of Electricity among consumers on 2 or more Feeders with a
common Power Transformer.
-Local load shedding: Sharing of Electricity among consumers on 1 Feeder.

Good job Sir but I think there is a mix up in the definition given for Opening and Closing a feeder.

Thanks for the correction. A typo.

And thanks for reading through to have noticed.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by ayobase(m): 1:02pm On Feb 03, 2015
Ahmeduana:

ABOUT THE DEVIL MAY CARE ATTITUDE
in a situation residents went to complain to PHCN staff about a break down of equipments in an area, and the PHCN staff are demanding for money before they would rectify the problem, WHAT DO WE CALLED THAT AND UNDER WHAT CATEGORY DID SUCH ACTION FALLS INTO? PLEASE I NEED ANSWER SINCE YOU ARE THE p.r.o OF PHCN, I ASSUMED.

It is a fraudulent act and crime for any staff to demand for money before rectifying any problem.
Take a snap-shot or footage of any official and report to the main office nearby.

Don't bother appreciating the effort either. They are being paid for that rendered service.
Otherwise, at yours peril and loss.

Do also report any staff that is reluctant to rectify after complain.


We are all P.R.Os in our respective companies, but might not be occupying the POSITION.


Thank you for your time.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by ayobase(m): 1:08pm On Feb 03, 2015
phransix147:
Is it kano that should enjoy 24/7 power or Ogun? Kano consumes as much as it generates while Ogun consumes just a fraction... Op. revisit and correct pls.

Yes, you are correct.
I am glad u read through painstakingly.

ayobase: ........After Anambra has been Locally load-shedded to 10MVA.
-Lagos (8MVA) + Ogun (5MVA) + Kano (1MVA) = 14MVA
-Anambra (10MVA) + Kano (5MVA) = 15MVA

Days Of Enjoyment On Each Feeder.
-Lagos: 3-4 days a week
-Anambra: 3-4 days a week, while local load-shedding goes on. It means some parts
will have supply for 2-3 days a week.
-Ogun: 3-4 days a week
-Kano: 7 days a week


Kano might wanna be given more supply as a result of being more commercial.

Though, I was only stating possibilities with my virtual case study.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by ayobase(m): 1:10pm On Feb 03, 2015
Deiok:
This is my field. Nice one op. But this isnt the reason for power problem in this country.

I only stated Discos and Consumers related problems.

Thanks.
Howz work?
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by ayobase(m): 1:16pm On Feb 03, 2015
tolexy007:
Na we wey dey SW here dey suffer light pass, I remember 2yrs ago wen I rep my sch in one competion like dat in New bussa in Niger state, for d whole town I don't c a single generator, their lite no dey go, I ask a guy say their lite no dey go? he said d lite no go at all, say even if dey carry d lite in d next 30sec d lite will b back.......Abeg aboki don dey cheat us for diz country since 404AD wen Gladiator competition Was put to stop..

That place most definitely be under 33KV supply.
Those places are not under injection substation control, rather under transmission.


Minna has the tendency of having 24/7 supply, but economy there is bad. People are not ready to pay.

I think those 33KV lines will soon be under load shedding.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by ayobase(m): 1:23pm On Feb 03, 2015
litetias:
The reasons for the epileptic power situation are infrastructure based. The current infrastructure is outdated, dilapidated and inadequate for generating enough electricity as well as for distributing it.
I don't know how the OP thinks he has addressed the issues. The poor maintenance culture and government myopia is responsible for every of the shortcomings of this country

You could have a point at the latter though.
Transformers are meant to be in service for more than 30 years under normal working conditions.

Transformers function on induction. No wearing or tearing as other mechanical machines.
Regular check up and maintenance (daily, weekly, monthly and yearly) are the keys.

You hardly find a Power Transformer packing up. They are wired around and about with sound PROTECTION, CONTROL and METERING measures.

The problem we do have more often is expansion in structure (buildings) without compensation on substations (transformers)
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by ayobase(m): 1:36pm On Feb 03, 2015
Trustworthiness:
The only reason people bypass their meters is because of the fraudulent bill PHCN use to bring to people's house. Bills you wonder how they arrived at.

I used to pay my bills upfront before until PHCN show me pepper. Before I don't pay more than 1000 naia a month. Because of that, I may pay upto 8000 naira on a bill just to avoid going to pay every month. So, at a point in time, the amount of credit I have with PHCN have risen to almost 12000 naira.

Around August of that year, the bill suddenly rise to 4500 naria by placing my bill on estimated bills which has not been so before. Within 3 months, the credit I have turns to debit.

I went to PHCN office to lodge a complain about the estimated bills been brought to my house. The readings on my meter do not tally with the bills PHCN is bringing for my electricity consumption.

I went to their office along Isawo road, Owutu, Ikorodu area of lagos state. I was directed to PHCN office on lagos road, besides 1stBank. I was told to write a letter of complain which I did. But nothing comes out of it. I had to suffer paying bills which I did not use.

I had to discussion with the guy that use to bring the bill then on what I can do to normalise the bill. Which he help me to achieve with some change anyway. Thereafter, they stop bring estimated bill to m6 house

None of these could be objected.
This trend started since Disco was sold off.

This new management wanna make profit, unlike before when debt was being settled by government.
This new management bought inadequacies alongside during the transition.

These inadequacies were as a result of corrupt NEPA staff and corrupt consumers.


Consumers pay Discos, Discos pay Transysco, Transysco pay Genco.

Disco, Transysco and Genco were under government. With this, the government can see to patching things up even when they are not getting fully paid by the Consumers.

With this new dispensation, the Company wanna maximize profit plus the fact that they are paying Transysco for Units bought from them. Thus, increment in billing.

I know this not right. Some consumers paying for some Consumers that cheat via bypassing.


Hope u grab?

Next time you lodge complain and no response, bring in your lawyer.
Re: Reasons You Might Not Be Having Light (electricity): To A Layman Understanding by ayobase(m): 1:39pm On Feb 03, 2015
diportivo:
you dont say!!the one i paid for since 2005 hasnt been delivered undecided...and yes i still have the receipt i was issued.and ofcos ikedc are not keen on installing it since they make a killing from estimated billing .if installing pre paid becomes a reality,thunder will surely fire whoever asks me for money before installation angry..on a lighter note,we dey get light for my area sha oo...dem dey try cool

Lolz.
wanted stating that Ikeja enjoys light until I realized you applauded them.

People tend to lodge complaints with less effort. Reason u aint getting reply.

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